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Flash thoughts 9x03
Okay, things are really heating up! (no pun intended, what with a heat-based meta appearing this week and all)
This was a really fun episode. I’m not personally invested in the Flash’s rogues but I know a lot of folks are, so i hope they’re enjoying this season cuz it’s going all in. This episode was delightfully comic-book-y. Great banter, fun camp, a little macgunffin-ish type thing, and a smidge of pathos to tie it all together.
was this the best episode? Nah. Not really any standout emotional moments or big reveals (i know there’s the ending, but we’ll get there) or anything, and it definitely doesn’t hit the heights of the previous episode's ethical core, but it was really fun, and it progressed the plot well along the way--so not a waste of time in my book.
Hartley is delightfully smug, Goldface is campy fun as always, and Jago is a delight in his Regular Guy-ness--with the nuance of his son in the picture as well of course. (side note, the flirting between him and Fiddler was a lot of fun)
It was pretty clear Mark was heading down the path of teaming up with red death but i didn’t expect him to get there so quickly (damn you shorter episode count). Still, i think it works.
Anyways the whole heist thing with Barry in a bit of a gray area was really fun. And yeah, while Barry has every right not to trust Goldface--or even Mark at this point--Hartley and Jago definitely didn’t deserve to be lumped in with them. Especially Jago, as he rightfully points out to Barry. It’s funny that these Rogues knew every one of them was going to try and steal it for themselves, but since they were all on the same page there they could kind of “trust” each other to be selfish. they knew exactly where each other stood. Barry would have tried to stop ALL of them, so they couldn’t couldn’t on him the same way.
Side note, I’m glad Barry’s “i have to give them a reason to trust me first” instinct wasn't to reveal his identity YET AGAIN. Probably only because half of them already knew it, but still--it was refreshing for him to try and figure some other way to get people to trust him. Plus the fact that the other two figured it out anyway was actually a lot more fun.
The Allegra and Chester thing has been going on for a while now, and while i didn’t love it in the beginning i have to say it’s grown on me. they’ve taken their time, had these two build up a rapport and a regular social life together outside star labs, and really leaned into the actor’s chemistry together. I’ve always been found it odd just how averse they are to dating when they both are pretty clearly on the same page there, so I’m happy we’re at least getting Alelgra’s side to that conflict finally.
Khione continues to shine with her piercing insights. I really like her.
WestAllen is still being written better than anything pre-s8 imo.
There’s not as much meat to this episode so i don’t have as much to say, so let’s finish off talking about the red Death developments.
So yeah, look, I knew it was Ryan Wilder months ago. It was announced officially i think. That wasn’t really a reveal. The question is, why? The next time teaser hints that Barry believes it’s current day Ryan corrupted by the Negative Speed Force, but Eric Wallace has hinted at something much deeper than that in interviews--so for the time being, I’m sticking to my theory that this is Armageddon Ryan, and we’ll see present day earth prime Ryan in the very near future--perhaps kidnapped by the Red Death so she could take her place and Wayne Enterprises wouldn’t be answering to two Ryans? I dunno.
but MAN it feels good to see Javicia Leslie back in the Arrowverse one last time. A little bit of a missed opportunity to not have her say “I am justice” as opposed to “I am Vengeance” cuz i really liked that she was saying “justice will be served” last episode, but maybe’s she’s conflated the two? We’ll see. I’m very intrigued to see Javicia’s villainous turn.
#flash thoughts#flash rogues#the rouges#the pied piper#captain boomerang#the fiddler#goldface#chillblaine#etc#just a fun time#heist#javicia leslie#batwoman is back#batwoman cw#flash cw#barry allen#ryan wilder#arrowverse positivity#arrowverse
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do you have a kate kane fancast and if so who is it
Mommy???? SORRY
#anyway she thought Bruce how to pull#and failed. but the effort counts!!!!!#actually I take that back— batman can pull. Bruce cannot.#it’s all due to her.#kate kane#batwoman#dc#dc comics#fancast#charlize theron
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Wayne Family Adventures returned a little bit ago, which is nice. But while everyone's talking about the Superfriends dynamic (adorable btw) or surprised that Cass dated Kon, I'm sitting here shocked that we got extra KonCass content before we got TimKon content OR StephCass content! (nvm StephCassHarper!) Like good for the 3 people who like KonCass but dang! Not even a little flirty TimKon? Pwease?
But also besides that uh SHORT JASON SUPREMACY!!!
I mean I know he's just small comparitively when put next to an Amazonian and an extra large Kryptonian but still. SHORT JASON SUPREMACY!!!
Also awww look at him
Also hey wait have we even gotten TimSteph content? Has their relationship even been mentioned in this series? But KonCass was?
#i will give them points for having that angsty KateRenee episode a while back though#some nice Kate-destroying-her-own-life-and-hurting-those-around-her-Netflix-daredevil-style content is good for the soul#wayne family adventures#they also gave us good Harlivy and I'll always appreciate that#batman wayne family adventures#the wayne family#the waynes#batfamily#batman#bruce wayne#cassandra cain#stephanie brown#tim drake#conner kent#jason todd#also that sounded like i hate Kate Kane and wish the worst for her which like no#i love Batwoman. i just think whereas Bruce heals and grows and loves Kate buries herself in her war hurting the people she cares about wit#her self destructive behaviors and hurting herself in the process by refusing to heal and accept things the way Bruce does#it's a good dynamic. some angst is always good food
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Everybody who writes & depicts Jacob as a villain or like some authoritarian monster who abuses everybody in his personal life should be REQUIRED to read this
#jk I get it’s a preference thing#but THIS is my Jacob#the kind of dad who says ‘don’t become me. surpass me’#and moves MOUNTAINS to make sure you CAN#yes. he values strength. but he’s also a collectivist who coined ‘family over duty’#and hangs the Kane motto ‘we stand TOGETHER’ on the wall#he’s intimidating. but Kate also laughs about ‘my father was furious’#she doesn’t look back on her childhood with fear#(except yk…the actual scary part)#I hate the cw show and the colony storyline with a passion#bc they butchered him so fucking bad#look at that smirk!#he’s so proud!#Jacob Kane#batwoman#Kate Kane#batwoman comics#dc comics#dc#batfam
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from the vein of the six degrees of kevin bacon, i love to play the six degrees of the arrowverse, with the idea that anyone or anything can be related back to the arrowverse within six degrees. okay some examples:
the 1997 Cinderella is one degree away from the arrowerse, because it stars Victor Garber and he was also in Legends
Queen Elizabeth II is two degrees away, as her son is King Charles and King Charles appears as a character in Legends
RADA, a famous drama school in the UK, is one degree away, as their president is David Harewood, who was in Supergirl
Miley Cyris is two degrees away, as Dominic Purcell is her stepdad now, and he was in Legends
please add your own weird arrowverse links in the replies and the reblogs!! i think we can encompass the whole world if we try!!
#phoebe returns#this could be a new ask game lmao#give me a random thing and the answerer relates it back to the arrowverse#legends of tomorrow#arrow#the flash#supergirl#batwoman
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Hello friends I’m here today to give you this Batwoman sketch. Not as detailed as my Nightwing one but I still like how it came out.
#so I’m currently getting into dc and Batman comics#I started reading comics about Stephanie because she’s the one I’m most interested in rn#I’ll come back and do other characters and big storylines later lol#art#my art#dc#dc comics#batwoman#Batman#batfam#Kate kane
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I think adding Renee Montoya really helped me solidify my Kate Kane design, though I had a pretty solid idea about Batwoman having that militarized aesthetic with a less lethal fire arm
#renee montoya#kate kane#batwoman#batwoman x the question#kanee#kate kane x renee montoya#kanee fanart#batfam#batfam fanart#batfamily formalwear#batfamily#batfamily fanart#batman incorporated#batman inc#renee montya the question#kate kane batwoman#throw back artwork#throw back art#art throwback thursday#art throwback#throwback thursday#character evolution#character design#digital art#digital artist
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I have to ask a very important,very specific questions:
Of the batfamily,who embodies each artist
(example; Bruce n Beyonce, Steven Taylor n Jason,etc)
Like all of the batfamily has to have an artist
Fergie
Madonna
Prince
Beyonce
Carol Channing
Shakira
Diana Ross
Lady Gaga
Katy Perry
Steven Taylor
#my dragrace hyperfixation is back and i need to daydream about this#is a very specific episode of All Stars 6#and i need the batfamily connection#batman#bruce wayne#tim drake#red robin#jason todd#damian wayne#dc robin#red hood#dick grayson#nightwing#spoiler dc#cassandra cain#stephanie brown#black bat#batwoman#batfamily#personally i think bruce should be Beyonce
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no bc when you think about it buzzed head selina is so everything. like. so many female characters in superhero media have longass hair that they just. leave out? of their mask? like girl be so real. ik that shit a hassle. and if they put it under a mask the never show em like braiding it or anything beforehand? or putting on wig cap? or both? like literally be SO real with me dude. i wanna see some girlies with dutch braids!! with cornrows!! with somethin thats not gonna fly round and get in the way!!! make female superhero hair more real or shave them all BALD!!!!
#hate hate HATE when they have it just down#ponytail is ok i guess (not really if its super long)#but like#just out??? like your hair reaches mid back and its just out????#girl.#this is how you know female superheroes are written by men bc has someone who had hair that length it is a HASSLE#black panther did it right look at all the female warriors they have short hair or its out of the way in a protective style#be soooooo serious with meeeeee#ugh#selina kyle#the batman#batman#dc comics#dc superman#superwoman#supergirl#batwoman#barbara gordon#poison ivy#harley quinn#batgirl#wonder woman#diana prince#black widow#no one is safe dude im naming them all#jane foster#gwen stacy#spider woman#mj watson#she hulk
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wrote prompt # 9 from this prompt list for wildmoore: “There is actually no downside to acting like we would be dating.”/ “Yes, except the part where people would think I was dating you.”
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“Ryan, I need you to hear me out, and don’t say no until I explain.”
It is as enthusiastic a hello as any, and Ryan doesn’t question it; when it comes to her best friend and her antics (the chicken incident of last Christmas immediately comes to mind), Ryan has learned to pick her battles. “Hi, Mary,” she says, and patiently shuts her front door as Mary walks right in. “It’s nice to see you too.”
By the time Ryan has locked and bolted her door, Mary has already begun to mix white wine and orange juice into two mugs. This is not the first time Mary has tried to ply Ryan with alcohol to get her to do something really, really stupid (again, chicken thing), and Ryan wordlessly takes a seat at the island and doesn’t bother hiding her judgment.
“Okay, this must be serious,” Ryan says eventually, as Mary hands her a drink with one hand and then downs her own with the other. “I’m afraid to ask now.”
“First you have to promise you won’t interrupt me until I finish,” Mary says. “Deal?”
“Sure, fine,” Ryan agrees, and she even takes a sip out of her mug as a show of good faith. It’s absolutely abysmal given the fact that she’s just brushed her teeth, and she quickly sets it down.
Mary takes a deep breath and straightens. “I need a favor,” she says. “Or actually, Sophie needs—”
“Oh hell no.”
“Ryan!” Mary gives her a half-pout, half-frown. “You said you wouldn’t interrupt!”
“Well you didn’t mention it would involve Sophie Moore.” Taste be damned, Ryan does need alcohol for this conversation, so she says fuck it and grabs her poor man’s mimosa again. “Whatever she wants from me, tell her to forget about it.”
“Technically,” Mary says, raising a finger in the air, “she doesn’t know I’m asking you. So you can rest assured your little arch-nemesis-rivalry or whatever is still intact. And if you would let me finish, I could actually tell you the situation we’re in.”
“You mean the situation she’s in,” Ryan corrects, and Mary levels her with a stare that Ryan has come to recognize as a wordless bitch, please. “Mary, you know I love you, and I overlook your fraternization with the she-devil—”
“Oh my God, you two are so dramatic,” Mary says. “Can I speak now, or are you going to keep rehashing pointless lesbian drama? Because I’ve aged two years trying to explain that all Sophie needs is a date.”
Ryan just about chokes on her wine.
Mary ignores her spluttering and continues, “Look, Sophie called me because she was invited to her ex’s wedding, and she desperately needs a date. I mean, it’s common practice right? If you go to your ex’s wedding, you need to show up with a hot date on your arm. And normally I would’ve done it, but it just so happens that it’s my sister’s wedding…”
“Your sister?” Ryan feels like this conversation is occurring underwater all of a sudden. “Alice, or Kate?”
“Kate, obviously,” Mary says. “Alice isn’t gay. Well, maybe a little bit, no one knows what to make of the Safiyah thing.” She visibly pauses, and then grimaces. “So not something I want to remember. The point is, Sophie already told Kate she was bringing a plus one before she found out that Kate was my sister.”
“So she lied. I don’t see why you’re over here asking me to—I don’t even know what you’re asking me to do.”
“I’m asking you to be Sophie’s wedding date,” Mary says. “But not for real, since you two are clearly too stubborn to talk to each other.”
“Hold on, what is there to talk about?” Really, at this point it’s the principle of the thing to hate Sophie Moore, who is stuck-up and standoffish and just a general stick-in-the-mud. Ryan can't be faulted for wanting nothing to do with her.
“Don't get all defensive.” But Mary laughs when she says it, and she holds out the wine bottle like it's a peace offering. “Just think about it, okay? Imagine if it was Angelique getting married and Sophie was your only option for a date. She'd do it for you.”
“No she wouldn't,” Ryan counters, but she needs no deliberation in order to accept a swig from the bottle. “And how do you know I'm her only option?”
“Because Sophie told me she's planning on skipping the wedding since she can't find another date!” Mary cries, and she’s clearly distraught at the very idea; she's worrying her bottom lip insistently, a habit Ryan knows she's trying to break. “Come on, Ryan, please? If not for Sophie, then for me. I really think Kate will be sad if Sophie doesn't go, they're in such a good place now.”
“You’re going to pull the do-it-for-me card now?”
“Yes,” says Mary without a lick of shame. “And as your best friend, you're contractually obligated to do anything for me.”
“Even if I said I'd do this,” Ryan starts, and when Mary squeals in excitement, Ryan stresses again, “Even then, Mary, Sophie won’t agree. She hates me as much as I hate her.”
“Just leave that part to me,” Mary says with all the cadence of an evil mastermind, which means it’s probably time to cut her off from the alcohol.
Thankfully they change the subject to whatever Mary is planning on wearing for said wedding, and Ryan is relieved; if this actually were a serious proposal, she is sure the world would have been ending.
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The first time Ryan met Sophie Moore, it had been as ordinary a night as any other.
In a way it was reminiscent of the first time Ryan met Mary; Kate Kane would occasionally DJ at the bar, and Ryan met Mary on the first night she’d come in to support her sister. Like Mary, Sophie had shown up to watch Kate DJ. Unlike Mary, Sophie had been a total asshole all night. She’d ignored all of Ryan’s attempts at small talk (which was a thing Ryan did with everyone in the interest of tips, it was not flirting, no matter how Mary described it). Then when Sophie’s sister Jordan told her to “flirt back with the cute bartender” (which Ryan still objects to every time she thinks about it), Sophie—who was in earshot of Ryan—replied that Ryan wasn’t her type.
And honestly, Ryan could’ve overlooked all of that. She could have! Sophie Moore had no obligation to find Ryan attractive, or even be polite when Ryan served her, so long as she paid her bill and didn’t cause trouble. But at the end of the night Sophie—still in earshot—had remarked to Jordan that the drinks were subpar, and Ryan was pissed. This went beyond poor consumerism; it was just plain rude! And clearly, Sophie had intended for Ryan to hear it, so it just went to show that Sophie Moore was a snob.
Which is why when Mary comes sweeping into the bar and announces, “Guess what, Ryan—you have a date Saturday night,” Ryan almost drops the glass she’s cleaning.
“Oh no no no,” Ryan hastily interjects, setting the glass aside before she uses it as a weapon. “Do not tell me you actually told Sophie I’d do it.”
“You’re doing your best friend a favor and I love you,” Mary says without a hint of remorse, and she completely ignores Ryan’s slack-jawed response, just happily takes a seat at the bar and lifts a menu as if she doesn’t already have it memorized. “Hey, can you bring me some mozzarella sticks?”
“We’re not open,” Ryan says, snatching said menu back. “Mary. Tell me you didn’t do it.”
“Okay, I won’t tell you?” Mary squints at her for a second. “I’m sorry, did you or did you not say you’d do it if Sophie agreed?”
“I said Sophie wouldn’t agree, even if I said I would.”
“Well she did agree, and I said you would, so…” Mary looks far too expectant for a dead woman walking. “I think it’s time you two buried the hatchet anyway. This isn’t Family Feud, you know. I feel like the child of a divorce sometimes.”
“You’ve never watched Family Feud in your life, have you?” Ryan shakes her head. “You know what, forget it. I just can’t believe you right now.”
Mary gasps. “You listened to me explain! Are you seriously acting like I’m springing this on you?”
“You made me listen to you!”
“Okay, I feel like you’re missing the point here, Ryan.” Mary says, “Which is why I am trying to promote healthy forgiveness.”
Ryan narrows her eyes. “Did you rehearse that?”
“Forgive me for caring about two of my friends finding mutual respect,” Mary says dramatically. “I guess I’ll just tell Sophie that you flaked, and that she’s going to have to return the dress she bought, and my dad will be devastated because he loves Sophie more than all of us combined…”
“You’re seriously trying to guilt-trip me now?” Ryan groans, and she stares longingly at the bottles on the shelf that she can’t consume. “Fine. Fine! If this really means so much to you, I’ll pretend to tolerate Sophie. But you’re going to have to lend me something to wear, because your family’s too rich to be around.”
“Thank you thank you thank you!” Mary beams, throwing her arms over the counter to drag Ryan into an uncomfortable half-hug. “And did I mention there’s an open bar?”
“Well damn, you could’ve led with that,” Ryan says, and Mary swats her with a newly-stolen menu.
“So does this mean you’ll get me mozzarella sticks now?”
“No, Mary, we are still closed.”
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What does one wear to a date with the devil?
Ryan ponders this once, then twice, and ultimately goes with the black dress stashed in the very back of her closet that she bought for a funeral she never attended. It’s not fancy—modest enough to wear in a church if that was her thing—which suits her just fine. The last thing she wants is Sophie getting the impression she’s trying to dress up for her, or anything.
She is pairing her casual outfit with some silver hoops when her phone rings. It’s Mary, for the hundredth time today. For as desperate as Mary made Sophie sound, Sophie hasn’t made an actual effort to make sure Ryan was coming; no, that honor is apparently all Mary’s.
“Hi, Mary,” Ryan says, putting her on speaker so she can toss her phone to the side. “What’s up?”
“Hey! I just wanted to call and make sure you’re not escaping out a window right now.”
Ryan has to bite back a scoff. “I'm not a fucking runaway bride,” she says. “Wait. Unless this is all some sick, twisted way to get me married to Sophie Moore and you're lying about your sister's wedding.”
“God, you're the most dramatic person I know.” There is rustling on the other end, like Mary is shuffling through paper. “This is why I did not rule out jumping five stories to get out of this.”
“That’s a very tempting offer now that you mention it.”
“Ugh, you’re going to be insufferable all night, aren’t you?” More rustling. “Okay I did actually have a reason to call you this time. I sent a car over to your house—the driver said he’d get there in fifteen minutes. You guys will stop to pick up Sophie on the way.”
“How romantic,” Ryan quips. “Just me, Sophie, and our Uber driver.”
“Come on, I had to make sure you didn’t kill each other before the wedding even started,” Mary says. “Just be nice to the chauffeur. There’s no amount of money in the world that I could pay him which would compensate him for sitting through your drama.”
“Of course, I’ll be a saint to the chauffeur.” Ryan rolls her eyes. “This might be some pretentious rich people shit but I do have manners, you know.”
Mary exhales. “If I hang up,” she says, “will you promise to behave?”
“Really? That is a serious question you're asking me?”
“I need a yes or no answer,” Mary remains stubbornly steadfast.
A beat. “...yes, I’ll behave.”
“Then I will see you at the party. Love you bye!”
Ryan shakes her head to herself. “Bye,” she says to absolutely no one in particular. Well, disastrous situation aside, she makes the most of her fifteen minutes of freedom: she finishes her makeup, takes a quick shot of vodka for liquid courage, and makes her way downstairs to wait for the car so the driver doesn’t have to deal with the conundrum that is her apartment gate.
The chauffeur is a nice, older guy who holds open Ryan’s door and doesn’t try to make her talk. Instead, he plays jazz music and remarks ever so often about traffic and the weather. The vodka is doing just enough to make Ryan relaxed until, well…they reach Sophie’s door.
As much as Ryan will fight tooth and nail to admit it, Sophie Moore is unfairly attractive. She emerges in a fitted orange dress, hair swept over her shoulder, and with a grim expression that Ryan can’t even take pleasure in when she knows her own face is practically a mirror.
“Hi, Ryan,” Sophie says stiffly.
“Sophie,” Ryan acknowledges just as formally. And then, they sit in complete silence.
Their chauffeur undoubtedly picks up on the tension; he checks on them from his mirror once or twice, but doesn’t ask if they’re okay, he just plays his music louder. When they arrive at the venue, Ryan pops open the door before he can even walk around to get it, already itching to escape.
Sophie lets him open her door, though, and she tips him even though Ryan knows Mary has already done the same ahead of time. Begrudgingly, Ryan can respect that.
“I…wanted to thank you,” Sophie says once they’re alone. “For doing this.”
Ryan shrugs. “Well, Mary asked me to,” she says. “So.”
Sophie purses her lips. “Either way,” she says, in a manner that is clearly quite annoyed, “I appreciate it.”
“Mm-hm.” Ryan watches as other guests steadily trickle past them, and she sighs, ready to accept her fate. “Should we go in?”
“Yes, but…” Sophie stops Ryan with a hand to her shoulder before she can actually walk inside. “Can you at least try to look like you want to be here?”
Ryan blinks. “What? Am I not believable enough for you?”
“Not if you walk in there like I’m leading you to a guillotine, no,” Sophie replies, brow crinkling. “You know, there is actually no downside to acting like we would be dating.”
“Yes, except the part where people would think I was dating you,” Ryan huffs, and Sophie’s expression twists into an offended glare.
“Why did you agree, then?”
“Because there was a whole thing with Mary, and—” Ryan stops before she’s ahead. “It doesn’t matter. I showed up, didn’t I?”
“Yeah. Thanks,” Sophie mutters without any sincerity, and Ryan follows her inside dreaming of that open bar.
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Ryan meets the bride just as she’s two drinks in, a third flute of champagne raised to her lips as Sophie not-so-subtly elbows her to pay attention.
“Hi,” Kate Kane says, holding out her hand which Ryan belatedly realizes is for her. “Nice to finally meet the elusive girlfriend.”
“Yes, we were starting to think you didn't exist,” Alice, the other Kane sister, chimes in; she's staring Ryan down with an eerily searching gaze, and Ryan subtly shifts closer to Sophie.
“Well, here I am,” Ryan says, unsurely resting a hand on Sophie's waist. Sophie clearly isn't expecting it, because she starts, throwing Ryan a sharp glance over her shoulder.
“How fun,” Alice says gleefully. “What a nice big, happy family we’ll become. When are you two getting married? I can officiate now that I’m ordained.”
“Alice,” Mary hisses. “You can’t just ask people when they’re getting married.”
“Why not? This wedding is basically a parade of Sophie’s exes. If Ryan doesn’t marry her after all this, it’s a waste of a date.”
Ryan twists to look at Sophie at the words “parade of Sophie’s exes.” Sophie, at least, looks adequately mortified.
“She’s kidding,” Mary laughs, high-pitched and nervous as Alice just shrugs. “Hey, we should go take a picture with Dad. Just the Kane sisters! Wouldn’t that be nice?”
“Okay, but if I have to hear another passive-aggressive rant about the ceremony, I’m going to kill myself and everyone in the room with me,” Alice’s voice fades away as Mary frantically shoves her (and Kate) along.
Sophie clears her throat. “So that was my ex,” she says. “Kate, I mean.”
“Yeah, I figured.” Ryan should be taking delight in the way Sophie is clearly uncomfortable, but in a strange turn of events, she can’t. In fact, she feels kind of bad.
“I need a drink,” Sophie sighs, and Ryan wordlessly holds out her glass. Surprised, Sophie eyes it up and down, but accepts it all the same. “Thanks.”
“Don’t mention it.” Ryan cranes her neck to peer at Mary, who is indeed wrangling her sisters towards Jacob Kane. “Hey. Question: Mary said that Jacob Kane pretty much loves you?”
Sophie half-coughs, half-sputters her next sip. “That’s…not entirely accurate.”
“But not untrue?” Ryan quirks an eyebrow, and Sophie’s shoulders slump like she’s lost a battle she hadn’t begun.
“I used to work with him,” Sophie confesses. “That’s how I met Kate. I guess I was kind of his favorite employee or whatever, but—that was a long time ago. It’s embarrassing.”
“You don’t strike me as someone who gets embarrassed easily,” Ryan notes, and Sophie tilts her head, pursuing her lips like she has to think about it.
“Maybe,” Sophie finally admits, “but showing up today dateless would’ve for sure hit the limit.”
Ryan nods thoughtfully. “So that’s why you were so desperate to bring me,” she says. “Even though you don’t think I’m your type.”
This time, Sophie fully chokes on her champagne. “W-what?”
“You don’t have to pretend.” Ryan rolls her eyes. “I heard you tell your sister that. I’m not, like, offended. It was still rude, but—”
“I didn’t know you could hear us,” Sophie says, and in a perplexing turn of events, she looks quite apologetic about the idea. “I didn’t mean it. I just…said it to get my sister off my back.”
“Oh.” Even as the words sink in, Ryan’s brain can’t seem to form a rational response to this information. Or stop the fact that when Sophie bites her lip in anticipation, Ryan’s eyes are automatically drawn to Sophie’s mouth. “I thought you kind of meant for me to hear it.”
“Is that why you think I’m an asshole?” Sophie blinks. “Seriously?”
“Well why did you think I was so mad at you?”
“I thought you just had a problem with police!”
Ryan sucks in a breath. “Oh, no, I definitely do. I guess my reaction was warranted.”
“Real mature,” Sophie says, narrowing her eyes ever-so-slightly, but there’s a hint of a smile on her lips so Ryan knows she isn’t taking it personally.
“No, for real, do you still work with the police? Because this is so not going to work if you do. My acting skills can only go so far,” Ryan says.
Sophie scoffs. “You’ll survive,” she says, and twists to peek back at the busy bar. “Should we join the line for another drink?”
Ryan follows her line of sight and resolutely shakes her head. “I have a better idea.”
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“You seriously brought a flask to a wedding with an open bar?”
“If you’re going to keep complaining, I’m going to take my whiskey elsewhere,” Ryan threatens half heartedly, but she gets a heady rush when Sophie tilts her head back to take another drink, and knows then and there she’s going nowhere else besides this coat check closet.
“I feel like I’m in high school,” Sophie says, passing the flask back; her fingertips brush against Ryan’s for longer than necessary. “Was the hiding necessary?”
“Duh,” Ryan says, taking another sip. “Mary would never let me live it down if she saw. She’s already given me so much shit about—” She pauses, not sure if she should continue, and Sophie gives a disbelieving laugh.
“You really didn’t want to be my date, did you? God, you’re so petty.”
“Fake date,” Ryan corrects her hastily. “And you seriously can’t blame me when you were the one being rude as hell in the first place.”
“But it wasn’t really what I thought!”
“Oh so I am your type,” Ryan challenges, and Sophie looks away, blushing.
“Look. I’m sorry, okay? I didn’t mean to bruise your ego.”
“That is the worst apology I’ve ever heard.” Ryan feels the whiskey like liquid warmth, settling right in her chest, and she grins when Sophie groans. “Come on, Sophie. I’m going to make you work for it.”
“Fine, I’m sorry for…being rude. Even if it was a little white lie and you weren’t supposed to hear it.” Sophie holds out her hand for the flask again, and Ryan is feeling magnanimous enough to let her have it.
“Still not the best, but I’ll take it.” Ryan leans her head against the wall and sighs, a little sleepy and a little tipsy but otherwise quite content. “You know, you’re not that bad. Even though you don’t have an actual chance with me since you work for the Gotham PD, I think we can be friends.”
“Oh my God, I don’t even work for them anymore,” Sophie says. “I’m—between jobs.” Ryan watches her wince, like she hadn’t meant to say that out loud, and Ryan closes her eyes and just hums.
“Been there,” she muses. “Mary saved my ass by getting me a job. If you want some pointers, I’m sure I can make a bartender out of you.”
Sophie gives a huff of a laugh. “My mom would actually die if I told her I was training to be a bartender.”
“Hey, it takes a lot to do what we do,” Ryan says. “Not many people can perfect the art of a Long Island Iced Tea, let me tell you.”
“Except for you?” Sophie is already sitting close to share the whiskey, but when she turns to whisper this teasingly, Ryan is struck by how close their faces are. Like if they shifted even two inches, their noses would be brushing.
It takes Ryan a beat to recover, but she manages: “Obviously. It keeps all the customers coming back.”
Sophie’s mouth twitches like she wants to laugh again, but she settles for a smile, amused and plainly unconvinced. “I’ll have to take your word for it,” she says, and she turns away, their closeness vanishing in an instant. “Do you think anyone is missing us?”
“Mary probably assumes I’ve killed you by now,” Ryan says. “But everyone else probably thinks we snuck off for a hookup.”
“At someone’s wedding?” Sophie sounds positively scandalized at the idea. “That’s…crazy. And us? Do we give off that vibe?”
Ryan watches Sophie squirm and finds it, strangely, very cute. Fuck. “I don’t know how to tell you this, but, couples generally hook up. And weddings are pretty much the #1 place where they do it. I’ve seen it happen.”
“Because you go to so many weddings, or is this just a statistic all bartenders know?”
“Don’t hate the player,” Ryan says, waving the flask to make her point, and Sophie finally breaks down into real laughter.
“Oh, God,” she exhales afterward, “what time is it? I think you’ve somehow managed to keep me at this wedding longer than I wanted to. I had a plan to stick around for like an hour or two just to be nice, but…”
“But I’m just that great of a date, I know,” Ryan says, if only to make Sophie blush again.
“Fake date,” Sophie says pointedly. “Remember?”
Ryan bites her lip. “Right,” she says, and just as Sophie is shifting like she’s about to stand up and ruin the moment, Ryan blurts out: “But what if it wasn’t fake?”
Sophie freezes. “What?”
“We could make this a real date,” Ryan says, heart working so hard it feels like it’s about to race out of her body. “If you wanted it to be.”
“Seriously?” Sophie’s mouth falls open slightly, and she says nothing else, just looks at Ryan with those big brown eyes and heart-shaped mouth agape.
“Unless I’m really not your type and you’re just trying to save my feelings,” Ryan tries to quip, but as Sophie seems to struggle through every conflicted expression known to man, Ryan’s hopes fall into the pit of her stomach. “You know what? Never mind. Obviously that’s not what this is and I’m—” She blindly shoves her flask back into her jacket so she can stand.
But before she can even get away (and fall into the beckoning embrace of the open bar), there’s a hand tugging her back down, and then Sophie Moore is kissing her. It’s a rushed, chaste kiss during which Ryan is definitely too stiff, but it does the trick; Ryan stumbles right back down, and Sophie jerks away, fingertips curled into the collar of Ryan’s jacket without letting go.
“You were talking too much,” Sophie breathes, and Ryan nods at her dumbly.
The only thing her brain can possibly formulate a thought for is: “Wait, so this whole time I really was your type?”
“Shut up,” Sophie says, and when she yanks Ryan back in for another kiss, Ryan is already leaning in at the same time, kissing Sophie as well as her smile allows.
(She’ll have to thank Mary for this later. Much, much later).
#wildmoore#batwoman#i need a fic tag#ive been challenging myself to write some of the prompts from lists i saved to come back to and this one just screamed wildmoore#totally envisioned this as a modern pride & prejudice but w/fake dating and less steps in between <3#might polish this one up and post to ao3 later im trying to post something every month (writing wise) in 2024 thats my goal#(fingers absolutely crossed lmfao)
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Flash thoughts 9x05
BATWOMAN IS BACK BITCHES
God it’s great to see Javicia back in the suit.
Red Death was fantastic this episode, though I’m actually a little upset we got so much of Red Death Ryan and so little of OUR Ryan. Don’t get me wrong it was amazing to see Javicia back in the Arrowverse at all, and she killed it as red death, but i just wish we got more of a Flash/Batwoman team-up. Kinda feel a little cheated on that.
Also didn’t Ryan literally DISAPPEAR ON PATROL? What the hell happened to that? she’s just back suddenly and we don’t know why she disappeared or where she was. She wasn’t captured by Red Death, she just disappeared for a few weeks then just...reappeared? And there’s no details on why or how or where she was? the hell?
Still, Red Death was super threatening--though they should have directed Javicia to stay calm more, i think she regularly came off far more threatening calm. And man, that goddamn voice changer. I don’t like that at all. To take away the voice AND face really hurts the actors ability to act. It’s worked for Thanwe and Zoom, and Savitar a little bit, but beyond that it’s lost all appeal for me.
Honestly I’m just kinda shocked the Red Death storyline seems to be over? I was kinda under the impression she’d be a season long Big Bad, due to how the Graphic Novel format--where the season is split into two or even three major arcs/threats, rather than a single one--was created to make sure over the course of 22 episode seasons they would avoid another Cicada situation, where a villain ends up feeling that their time as a threat has been artificially extended past the time it feels like Team flash should have a handle on things. It was a fantastic call for 22 episode seasons, but I’ll be honest I did not think they would continue that in a 13 episode season. Red Death was definitely great, and this was a great last episode that really sold her threat level, but it does feel like this whole thing happened awfully quick. Luckily she IS just over in Iron Heights, so her story probably isn’t COMPLETELY over.
My initial thoughts about the line “Justice will be served” line paid off pretty damn well though. shouldn’t have given her the I Am Vengeance line. I get that this is Ryan Wayne and that’s an iconic Batman line, but in her mind this is not about vengeance, and that’s a really interesting concept i wish was explored more. Ah well. C’est la vie.
I’m assuming Red Death’s telepathic powers were artificial like her speed, since she said she spent tons of time studying her enemies abilities and working to replicate them. Wish it was clarified though, cuz it was weird to see Red Death with powerful psychic abilities all of a sudden when they weren’t there before.
Or just make it all Grodd? Rather than giving Ryan psychic abilities he boosted, maybe just make him the source of the psychic stuff that she used in her plan. Regardless, not the worst thing ever, just a little weird.
Speaking of Grodd, he makes his grand return here, and i think it’s pretty solid! I don’t think forgetting about Grodd was his BIGGEST mistake--there’s a lot of contender' for that spot, this doesn’t even crack Top Five--so that was a weird line. BUT I do like how he’s used as a way to get Barry to reflect on his form of heroism, and have faith that Grodd is no longer who he used to be. Find it a little weird he questioned whether the Rogues were able to change? I dunno it just felt a little artificial for Barry to question his ability to bring out the good in people this far in, but i do like (most of) the talk he had with Joe. So happy these kinds of emotional, inspirational talks are so much rarer, two seasons ago they were happening every 5 minutes and they lost any impact because of it. This instead let both Barry and Joe reflect on their relationships to and impacts on one another, and it’s very sweet. And i do like the decision he comes to in order to raise Jenna safely, but not take away Cecile from her rise into heroism or abandon his family.
Regardless, it all works quite well, and Grodd giving Barry the speed back he gave him three years ago was a fun detail. Plus tying it into the continued fallout of Crisis was a nice touch.
Allegra and Chuck are FINALLY official so it’s nice to have that story done after building it up for so long, though there’s not much time to explore that so we’ll see what comes next for them.
And the weirdness with Khione kept up this week, which seemingly is going to lead directly into next week!
All in all, pretty solid episode. Some pretty large flaws, but not unforgivable ones.
I’d probably rate the Red Death Arc 5 out of 10 if i had to put a number on it, but that’s mainly because it was only 5 episodes and don't really have the time to do itself justice rather than the fact that it was actually mediocre.
oh yeah and Iris is pregnant early
#red death#flash thoughts#the flash#the flash season 9#batwoman cw#batwoman is back#WestAllen#gorilla grodd#joe west#khione#ryan wilder
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I know I'm not the first person to say this but if Steve harrington is any popular superhero, he's Batman, right?
Like yes there's the fun shit like haha nail bat, Batman. Both are rich boys who take in a crazy amount of children like it's their favorite hobby, both have a bitchy, playboy personas which they use to keep people from looking too deep, because they have to be that hollow, vapid, and bullshit. Big house, no parents?
I know that it isn't exact given Steve's parents are alive(presumably), but I know for a fact i'm not crazy here. Both guys live in luxury, but for some reason or another, their parents are gone. And the only thing they've left behind is their obscene amounts of riches. Like that makes up for having your parents in your life. It kinda left both of them with this anger that they have utilized, sometimes against other people, and always when they fight legitimate threats. And overall they try to be a good person even if they often tend to be haunted by their mistakes.
If you want to get a little meta with it, both work with a character who was originally planned as a love interest for them but is now canonically a lesbian because it makes their characters more compelling. Though Steve and Robin are on far better terms than Bruce and Kate are(doesn't take much for that. iykyk)
Also they have a partner in crime(read:fighting) named Robin if that counts for anything. Sometimes more than one for Bruce but eh. The guy's been around for 85, almost 86 years now, compared to Steve who's been around for like 7. Im taking liberties here.
Speaking of the role of Robin, trying to fit the party into the batfamily is a task and a half. Like I guess Dustin would have to be dick and max could work as Steph, but would that make Lucas Tim? Suzie could be Babs, that would make sense. Wait, am I making mike jason? It's a mess and my brain is on fire. The only ones i feel a little bit confident about is that Erica would be Damian, el would be cassie and Will would be Duke. Before you ask, no I don't know how Nancy, Jonathan, Alfred, or the other adults would fit in here but I have a side tangent to entertain y'all with instead.
Yes, I do think that this would make eddie Superman. Yes I think it fits quite well.
Listen, from what I do know of Eddie's backstory(I have not read flight of Icarus), it could be matched with Clark's. Boy is sent away from parents to live somewhere else and is taking in by someone who becomes their parent(s) wholeheartedly, no matter the fact he is different from the other kids. And then when they try to live their life as best they can with those differences. Something happens that gets a while city's population looking at them, and a notable member of the community wanting them killed or arrested because of how "dangerous he is".
Listen even if I'm being a little conspiracy board-esque about eddie as clark kent, the parallels of Jason Carver and Lex Luthor are plain as day. Jason is more of a religious bigot compared to Lex's capitalist xenophobia, but these two green and white bitch-asses mirror each other. Also the religious imagery for both Eddie and Superman is off the fucking charts(like Eddie is seen as a demon by the mobs and Superman is seen as a god. And both are feared for it)
I can talk more about this, but I'm already scared that I have said too much.
#like please tell me y'all see it#I keep trying to connect stranger things and dc and this one made the most sense to me. so far#steve harrington#bruce wayne#stranger things#batman#robin buckley#kate kane#batfamily#the party#ngl Nancy would be a way better batwoman than Robin but I had to mention the 'assigned love intrest to lesbian aunt' pipeline#the Byers twins as Duke and cass is something that can be so personal#also the Sinclair siblings as the 2 that are trying to stab each other all the time is so real#eddie munson#clark kent#Superman#also if Eddie were to come back that would be prime Christ figure energy. and Superman gets a lot of Christlike symbolism#lex luthor#jason carver
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When you get a callout at 2 am because there is a bat loose in one of your showrooms!!!
How it got in I have no idea but it has been returned to freedom!
🦇🦇🦇
#that was a fun thing to be called out for!#not!!!#it took me 2 hours to catch it and free it back to the outside world#it was a brown long earred if snyone was interested 😂#bat#I am batwoman tonight!!#🦇🦇🦇
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i would like to formally thank you all for allowing me lately to write ‘selina is fucking unhinged’ threads they’re my lifeblood.
#CLAWS RETRACTED.#[HEY AUTUMN YOURE NEXT UP IN THE LIST THIS IS SO FUN HOLY FUCK TAKE ME BACK TO MY HORROR ROOTS.#SHE ISNT FINE AND SHES ALL OVER THE PLACE ABOUT IT. BITING BATWOMAN. HANGING A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES JUST TO MAKE THEM THINK THEYLL DROWN.#NEARLY FLAYING SOMEONES FACE OFF. WHATEVER THE FUCK SHE HAS GOING WITH LEE. SHE. IS. UNSTABLE.]
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this makes me so happy it's all comic books but it means i might hit my goal and that means so much to me after spending the last two years not really reading/not reading at all
#🍊.txt#WE'RE GETTING BACK TO IT SLOWLY#batwoman was a good choice cause shes what got me back into comics the last time
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Moodboard inspired by @theycallme-ook BB Catwoman AU ft. Batwoman!Dana.
1 | 2 (Catwoman!Terry/Stray)
#batman beyond#dana tan#batwoman!dana#bb catwoman au#.....still haven't gotten back to my batcat beyond WIPs#oh well least I did a moodboard to compensate#moodboard
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