Hailey Banks is autistic
not just because i am too and i relate to her
1. The first episode we LITERALLY get the whole "I'm adverse to new experiences so I just write them down instead!". To the nth degree too /pos. That's what causes the whole series to begin
a big Thing of autism is need for a routine -or at least an idea of what to expect- to the point changes to the plan can result in meltdowns or flat out avoidance (as we see with Hailey).
with the world ending, she starts to embrace the changes, but still doesn't necessarily Like all the new things.
i could be reading to much into it, but in the theme song we get things like "make a candle with my own ear wax???" and "eat an onion :/" where we see this aversion to not only trying but actually DOING new things, too. this is continued at several points in the show, too. she flat out says "i don't want to do that right now; let's find a different list item" NUMEROUS times. several of those scenes do come from her feelings for scott, sure, but i think that proves my point?
friendship for neurodivergent people is ,, complicated (we'll get there) so right now hailey has this steady, predicable pattern with her best friend. she doesn't want to ruin that, and thus we fall back into the "i don't want things to change" part of autism
2. Hailey and birds
special interests are a bit complicated, and this isn't the place to explain it, but in short its basically a Really Strong interest in something. it occurs to everyone, but people with autism are more likely to experience either stronger or more frequent :)
birds are DEFINITELY a special interest for hailey!
- half of her list items INVOLVE birds and thus almost every episode has some sort of a something with birds (frank, the red owl, petey, etc)
- she has a party and the way she wants to have fun is build birdhouses with her peers
- she adopts a flamingo. like.
- her little birdhouse collection <33333
there's more but it's just silly and i love frank and petey so much and-
3. she has a really hard time understanding how to relate to her peers socially
ok, again there are so many better researched things than this so this is a BRIEF summary, but: autistic people just process the world differently. a lot of social cues go over their head because the world is processed Different.
so having hailey be a bit dense social-wise is so nice to see. especially because none of the characters penalize her or mock her for not getting it. instead they just, talk to her? like people?
examples off the top of my head about the miscommunication are
- kristine wanting to have a date with scott and hailey tags along
- becker flirts with hailey and hailey is like ":D wow ! what a silly billy !" (the 'i'm more of a ice cream girl if you catch my drift' / 'i still need to use this coupon????')
- the rubic's cube episode where hailey doesn't understand scott's needs vrs her own and like ,, how those mesh together
- that plotline where hailey admits that she doesn't have that many [female] friends (or any besides scott) because it's always been weird for her
- part of what draws her to frank is that she's ALSO been labeled as weird and different, and she doesn't think that's a reason for isolation
- at her birthday party she doesnt understand why people aren't having fun. because, for her, this is fun!!
- that same said party was immeditaly followed with her admitting "this isn't fun for me; i would like to stop" when it comes to the truth or dare game.
there are a bunch more examples. again, this just for a general idea to show where this idea is coming from
4. [according to the wiki] "Hailey is quite determined for a kid her age"
afab austistic people go underdiagnosed for reasons like this!!!
things that can SO be autisic are marked off as "mature" because a lot of austsim is masking OR traits that appear one way in amab appear differently in afab.
this idea of "determination" can tie into the special interest thing as mentioned before, or why austsic people are often shown as "selfish": because they want something, and don't understand the social repercussion of saying no.
5. as i mentioned, the list thing.
as generally mentioned, autistic people want a semblance of what to expect from something. when they don't get that, those feelings can cope in other ways.
in this show, hailey makes a list.
instead of trying something new, she just thinks 'oh i'll do that later!' and then DOESNT! :3
these are small things and obviously a headcannon, but it means a a lot to mean
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Autistic Rise Headcanons- because I can and NO ONE CAN STOP ME.
So with the whole Donnie pretty much confirmed as being written to be Autistic (which is AWESOME) there are many Autisics out there who don’t relate to his particular cluster of traits. With that in mind and also the fact that I have headcanoned the boys in other iterations as Autistic, I give you all my Autistic Rise headcanons!
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Leo
Speaks in memes. Atypical speech patterns- ‘We should go peoples blinds are starting to open.’
Stimms with words and puns. And hand/arm flapping
Has anxiety but doesn’t fully understand why
Insomnia caused by ruminating on EVERY potential social faux par he has EVER committed
Social mimic! People watcher. Goes against the common belief that autistics don’t know how to read people and is exceptional at it because he over analyses every social situation to ensure that he is not stuffing it up. Pretends not to be serious to other AND himself so any stuff up doesn’t hit so hard and also uses it to distract others from the fact that he is still figuring the situation out.
Fake it till you make it!
COMICS!!! And Lou Jitsu and JUPITER JIM!!! SPINs Will pace in circles reciting lines when overwhelmed. ‘Hot Soup Ha Ha Hot Soup Ha Ha Hot Soup Ha Ha...’
Magic and Illusionists SPINs- Learned a lot about reading people’s tells and how to deflect attention from the great illusionists.
Co ordination takes effort and sometimes he loses track of where his body is but it is something he has worked at because he has to be better than Donnie at something HE HAS TO WIN!
Tends toward shutdowns, though meltdowns tend to be quiet and more implosive/self injurious, bites himself, hits himself in the head with his fists sort of thing.
Hyposensitive to pain- gets hurt and doesn’t realise.
And touch similarly gets dirty and doesn’t realise he needs a shower because he doesn’t notice the mud/dirt stuck to him.
Sensory issues with slimy things that move, as in it’s fine until it moves (that time he cut Warren Stone in half).
Likes quite and dimly lit spaces to decompress in, also weighted blankets = sensory bliss.
Difficulty moderating voice volume.
Can have difficulty with empathy especially with those he is not close to.
Dyslexia - comics are easier than books to figure out what is going on than a WALL OF TEXT.
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Donnie
Autism poster child
Savant/gifted child
Hyperlexic
Science and technology SPINs as well as Lou Jitsu and Jupiter Jim like his brothers.
Infodumps about his inventions and technology
Meltdowns and shutdowns. Meltdowns tend to be more self injurious than outwardly explosive, they are like Leo’s but with more yelling.
Hypersensitive to pain = battle shell
Hypersensitive to touch- issues with slimy things. Its not only with food though
Weight blankets and deep pressure, but NO HUGS! unless he initiates it
‘Picky eater’ and SAMEFOODS!
Can’t handle being dirty or the feel of dirt on him.
Loves loud music but otherwise can’t handle loud noises he isn't in control of.
Has trouble regulating tone of voice and volume
Difficulty with fine and gross motor skills, but loves dancing.
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Raph
Anxiety about being alone and has meltdowns
Dyscalculia
Can have trouble regulating his own emotions
Not great at reading people
Likes things not typical of age (teddy bears)
Meltdowns. wrecks everything and/or wrecks himself, mostly now wrecks himself
Hyposensitive to pain, docent realise he is hurt
Hypersensitive to loud noises
Atypical speech, uses third person for himself and gets words and sentance structure mixed up
Hyper-empathy
Wrestling SPINs along with Lou Jitsu and Jupiter Jim like his brothers.
Can recite scores and results from every match with Ghost Bear in it.
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Mikey
Cooking and art SPINs along with Lou Jitsu and Jupiter Jim like his brothers.
Dyslexic
Collects cookbooks, (especially one with all the pretty food pics) and orders them by the spine colour. He knows where every one is exactly where each recipe is. With new recipes he has to read the recipe and have it planned out in his head and on the bench before he starts. If someone distracts him he loses track of where what when and how he is up too and has to start over.
Raptor hands!
Repetitive Motion stims- sleeps in a hammock.
Can’t multi task (I didn’t want to burn the risotto).
Not great at reading people on the fly, but understands a LOT or the theory. Given time to think about and process a situation he will figure it out. Best out of all of them at understanding his own emotions because he has worked at it.
Meltdowns. Loud and explosive. Bad ones are the kind of wreck everything in the room. Mostly though it is a lot of crying and yelling and banging his fists on things.
Hug loving Autie!
Withdraws into shell when things get too much- its like a weighted blanket
Loves BRIGHT and COLOURFUL until it overloads him
Hyper empathy. Doctor Delicate Touch is a defence mechanism so he doesn’t get taken advantage of.
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Anyone else out there have any Autistic Rise Headcanons?
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Why Even New ABA 'therapy' Is Bad.
I got bored so I decided to start a project.
Note: I write everything in the notepad app on my computer so it isn't exactly fit to Tumblr format and might look a bit wonky because I don't feel like editing it to fit. I also put off posting it for a while because it wasn't something I originally thought about posting while writing. I don't actually know what to put as a rating so I will put mature as it does make a mention to SA/Peer pressure + Bullying. I will note that even though I did do research it does not mean I am fully correct on some of these topics so feel free to correct me and remember that I am just another person on the internet and not an actual professional.
Reminder: This is all opinion backed up on personal research and experiences.
2:03 PM 2022-10-21
Why Applied Behaviour Analysis "Therapy" is Harmful.
ABA 'therapies' direct goal and main focus is to alter and/or eliminate an Autistic childs
behaviour, this holds to the fact that they think Autisic children need to be "fixed" and that
their behaviour is bad, behaviour is a from of necessary communication to people who
do not talk or even those who do talk, towards the people they know an example would be
"Grabby Hands" that is often used to show a want or need for an object in sight without
touching, or taking it away from its spot or the person who has it in their possession, if you
saw two children playing together and one suddenly grabbed a toy out of the other childs
hand you would think to reprimand the child for "Stealing", Children pick up on the fact
that taking it is bad, so they have to instead find a way to get the other child to give it to them
by communicating that they want it, usually using "Grabby Hands", by teaching children that,
said behaviour is bad they might resort back to just grabbing it, but by reinforcing the child to
talk who is often mute, it stresses them and causes anxiety, by punishing them when they
don't talk it teaches them that being comfortable and feeling safe in situation is "bad" and
"against the rules", often leading to them growing up with Mental Health issues and difficulties
with rules and/or authority causing outbursts, anger, and dislike towards those things.
Forcing a child to practice scripts and sit still so they can look like a
"Normal Child" is abuse, its unfair and teaches them to mask their Autism
and Neurodivergent traits. Autistic children should not have their behaviour
changed simply beacause it is not how an Allistic/Neurotypical child
acts, masking is a destroying behaviour and it ruins the ability to create
a personal identity, because you are constantly acting as if you were a
different person, to teach a child how to do this ruins their life,
It is abuse.
Credits to Research:
For more information on Masking and its Consequences. Also quoted a "A life of Suicidality".
https://www.healthline.com/health/autism/autism-masking
Quote From Above Site :
People may mask their autism characteristics for many reasons —
to boost their careers, connect with others, or avoid being stigmatized by other people.
Masking may help at times, but regular masking can have serious effects on mental and physical
health. This may include anxiety, depression, exhaustion, a loss of identity, and suicidal thoughts.
https://psychcentral.com/autism/autism-masking-why
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Standard practice in particular autism therapies such as applied behavior analysis (ABA) has
historically been to redirect autistic behaviors and traits to meet neurotypical expectations.
But some autism advocates and members of the autistic community disagree with this strategy.
Some research has suggested ABA may cause post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms in some
autistic people.
https://www.spectrumnews.org/features/deep-dive/costs-camouflaging-autism/
Quote From Above Site:
Lawrence says that if she’d been diagnosed as a child, her mother might have understood her
better. She might have also avoided a long history of depression and self-harm. “One of the main
reasons I went down that route was because I knew I was different but didn’t know why —
I was bullied quite badly at school,” she says.
Mandy and his colleagues interviewed 14 young women not diagnosed with autism until late
adolescence or adulthood. Many described experiences of sexual abuse.
https://walkietalkiespeechtherapy.com/why-teaching-autistic-people-to-mask-is-an-outdated-and-harmful-practice/
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In addition, research has shown that autistic people are more likely to commit suicide.
Many autistic people report that they feel a direct correlation between this statistic and the
exhaustion and depression that accompanies constant masking. Many autistic people mask
because they are expected to do so by society. But even occasional, limited masking can be damaging,
exhausting, and lead to long-term burn-out.
Why Applied Behaviour Analysis "Therapy" is Harmful.
ABA is a Compliance-Based 'Therapy' this means it is considered successful when the
child does what the 'therapist' says, in majority of cases children have their personal
belongings withheld, or taken away from them until they meet, and comply with the
demands that have been made, whether the personal belongings taken away are simply
something they want like a favourite toy or something they need like a comfort item or
food they packed and brought along to eat within the very long appointment hours, alot
of times attention is withheld which means if the child asks for say a bathroom break, or
something to eat/drink, they won't get it. This 'treatment' style is incredibly problematic
because in any other situation, such as with a spouse, or friend this kind of treatment->(punishment)
is seen as toxic, and manipulative towards the person, as if they didn't matter, all that
mattered was compliance towards another person's orders.
Beyond that and more, focusing heavily on compliance for children, especially autistic
children, is extremely dangerous. When autistic children are pushed and forced into
hours upon hours of compliance-based 'therapy' and 'therapies' from such a young and
vulnerable age, they are taught that their body is solely at the mercy of someone else,
that their body is not theirs to make decisions with or express feelings with. That when
somebody tells them, to do something with their body, they must comply.
It may seem as though this is not such a bad consequence but what happens
when it isn't a 'therapist' telling them to sit at a table and rearrange number magnets,
but instead a peer pressuring them into drugs or even sex.
Credits to Research:
This leads to issues with consent and decision making, when somebody doesn't know
how to make decisions for themselves or understand how consent works it leads to
vulnerability towards sexual assault, rape, domestic violence and abuse, among other
things it makes them a likely bully victim throughout Elementary School, Middle School,
Secondary->(HighSchool) and even College or University. Students with Autism are
already more likely to be bullied in a general standpoint of just simply existing with or
without a diagnosis, an interview study showed that if you asked a group of bullies if they
would bully a child for having a diagnosis of autism majority would say no, but if you asked
them whether or not they would bully a child with autistic traits such as strong insistence
on organization, difference in speech, difference in social interaction, adherence to routine,
ect… They would say "Yes, I would bully them." 33.9% of students with Autism face
high levels of bullying victimization in school(Reported) based on a 2016 Study, with an
increased risk due to ABA or any other type of compliance-based 'therapy' that number
would probably look something more like '45.5%' or possibly even higher.
https://www.pacer.org/bullying/info/stats.asp
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When assessing specific types of disabilities, prevalence rates differ: 35.3% of students with
behavioral and emotional disorders, 33.9% of students with autism, 24.3% of students with
intellectual disabilities, 20.8% of students with health impairments, and 19% of students with
specific learning disabilities face high levels of bullying victimization
Why Applied Behaviour Analysis "Therapy" is Harmful.
ABA focuses on positive reinforcement for target behaviour, though it may seem great it
doesn't work in the long term, as research has shown using extrinsic/external rewards
actually decreases the chance of the child doing said target behaviour in the future if a
reward isn't immediately present or available, instead intrinsic/personal rewards are more
effective as it teaches doing an action for personal need or want.
Rewarding extrinsically means that in later instances throughout life such as school work
or a business project, even just simply doing laundry will prove difficult to get done beacause
they have been taught that if they do something 'right' or 'successfully' they will get a
sticker or candy, so if there is no sticker the action is either 'wrong' or in the child's eyes
"Not worth doing." you don't get a sticker or candy for doing laundry or school work, so
the child will subconsciously lose any or all motivation towards doing the action and will
more than likely fail to even start the work, a example of this would be, reward a child for
sitting at a table and they will continue to sit at the table, but stop rewarding that behaviour
or expect the child to continue in a different setting than originally rewarded in they will
stop sitting at the table, this is especially true for autistic children who follow routines of
sameness and rules. In the child's mind if you give them a sticker for sitting at the table, they
should always get a sticker for sitting at the table. If you stop giving them stickers to sit at the
table why would they ever sit at the table?
Credits to research:
If the child ever wants to do anything in the future this will effect the decision making
behind its reasoning and rewards as they will begin to think that doing something
for personal reward isn't good enough, because there is no external reward, this causes
"Black and White" thinking, or as a more common term "All or Nothing", if they set a goal
and a 'good' extrinsic reward is there they will complete the goal they set even if it kills them,
another example would be if the task has an extremely important intrinsic reward that is
well needed they won't start it because it's simply not a 'good enough' reason to them, this
continues throughout adulthood and affects decision making behind reasoning, even if the
autistic person starts the task they either do their best and try so hard they mentally kill
themselves or they don't try at all, they are unable to see a middle ground in life thus unable
to make decisions surrounding it.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27084549/
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Extrinsic Rewards Diminish Costly Sharing in 3-Year-Olds
https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking
Quote From Above Site:
An all-or-nothing mindset doesn’t allow us to find the middle ground. And let’s face it:
There’s a reason most people don’t live on Everest or in the Mariana Trench.
It’s hard to sustain life at those extremes.
https://www.talkspace.com/blog/black-white-thinking-ways-poisons-your-perspective/
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Of course, the world is not an either/or place: Our lives are full of shades of gray.
By seeing the world in black and white — rather than the complex rainbow it actually is —
we may initially make it easier for ourselves to separate out good from bad, right from wrong,
and beautiful from ugly. But this kind of thinking can be exhausting, sending us through
constant ups and downs. And on a deep level, simplifying things into easy, binary terms robs us
of much of the complexity that makes life and relationships so rich.
https://www.soberish.co/black-and-white-thinking/
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Everything is all or nothing.
Either you’re 100% committed to this diet or you’re stuffing your face with whatever you
can get your hands on. If you mess up and have a cookie?
The entire diet is destroyed! Throw it all away. You’ll never be healthy. You can’t do it!
Why Applied Behaviour Analysis "Therapy" is Harmful.
Most ABA 'therapists' say that an autistic child should have 20-40 hours in 'therapy', that is
essentially a part time to full time job that is expected of autistic children as early as toddlerhood.
Why should we expect that out of such young autistics, or even any older child.
On top of that big pile of misfortune parent are also told to continue the 'treatment' outside of
'therapy' hours, It is teaching children to constantly mask and hide themselves, even with people
they are supposed to feel comfortable and/or safe with, such as their own parents or friends, and
possibly even when they are alone.
That they must hide who they are constantly to act like somebody else because others don't like it
and prefer that they would act neurotypical, but when are the children aloud to play in their own way
and with their own autistic behaviours, while nowadays children are being encouraged to spend more
time with unstructured play, autistic children aren't given that luxury.
Why do autistic children have to be 'on' for so long, when do they get to rest and have downtime.
No child should have to work 20-40+ hours changing who they are because of others opinions.
No person should have to work to change who they are because of others opinions.
Credits to research:
The effects of masking are terrible. Being told to do that all the time even when with someone you
trust or when you're alone is just torturous and escalates the effects of it.
www.acceltherapies.com/how-long-are-aba-therapy-sessions
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This implies they might require up to 40 hours of ABA therapy every week.
Why Applied Behaviour Analysis "Therapy" is Harmful.
ABA 'therapy' promotes the idea that autistic people and children must change to fit in, that their
behaviours and personalities are unwanted, that they as a whole are broken, a toy, an object to be
fixed so others will be comfortable and want to play and even just interact with them, and as long
as we subject and force autistics into these intensive 'therapies' we are continuously telling them
and society that autistic behaviours must be changed, that they are wrong and not welcome.
A world where stimming and meltdowns were understood and accommodated instead of openly
shamed and trained away as if they were 'bad' behaviours in a dog.
That will never happen when autistic children are spending multiple hours every day being taught
and told they have to change by doctors, family, 'friends', peers, teachers, and every other person
you could think of or imagine walking into their life.
Do not dismiss the concerns, cries, and pleas of autistic people who are speaking out against ABA 'therapy'
because even if your experience with it wasn't the torturous punishment-beased 'therapy' that was used
from 1968 and only started dropping in usage during the early 2010's but is still used in some settings today.
Autistic people are tired of being spoken over by neurotypicals, especially when they ignore the issues with
something and only point out false positives.
Main points:
By: E. Kerr.
7:57 PM 2022-11-08
Word Count: 2415
1 Changing Behavior as the Primary Goal
2 Compliance-Based Therapies & Issues of Consent
3 Focusing on Positive Rewards Instead of Intrinsic Motivation
4 Extreme Hours of Therapy Limits Autistic Children’s Free Time
5 Promoting the Idea That Autistic Children Must Change to Fit In
I have done external research on these topics as well as on child and early
adolescence psychology focusing on how situations affect adulthood and
the childhood brain, I truly hope that this personal writing project will help
bring awareness on the affects of ABA 'therapy' and other 'therapies' or
situations like these.
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