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cienie-isengardu · 8 hours ago
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Such a good post!
I for sure need to reread the books, so forgive me if my memory fails at some point, but Boromir’s battle deeds, and generally his “love for war” is a very interesting aspect of him. 
It makes so much sense that this desperate action that led to such great losses could shift the perception of Boromir in favor of his brother. But also as destroying the bridge actually ensured Gondor’s safety for a year or so, I feel some may - and someone may actually did in books? - claim that Faramir lacks his brother’s boldness. We know that both brothers were great commanders in their own right and it is understandable their leadership varied from each other, both for how different they were as people, due to different circumstances and nature of their duties (leading rangers and soldiers on the first line demanded different battle tactics). At the same time, from the little we know about them, they both took an active part in fighting in the most dire actions and would be the last ones to leave the battlefield so in some aspects they were very alike. It is not so hard for me to see how both were loved and respected by their soldiers, even if most folks would not really understand the burden of leadership Boromir and Faramir were forced to bear for the sake of Gondor. I can see how Boromir could be seen as reckless, especially in the context of the battle over the bridge that cost so many soldiers.
But there is one thing I wonder about this battle - Boromir told at the meeting of the Council this: 
“Believe not that in the land of Gondor the blood of Númenor is spent, nor all its pride and dignity forgotten. By our valour the wild folk of the East are still restrained, and the terror of Morgul kept at bay; and thus alone are peace and freedom maintained in the lands behind us, bulwark of the West. But if the passages of the River should be won, what then? “Yet that hour, maybe, is not now far away. The Nameless Enemy has arisen again. Smoke rises once more from Orodruin that we call Mount Doom. The power of the Black Land grows and we are hard beset. When the Enemy returned our folk were driven from Ithilien, our fair domain east of the River, though we kept a foothold there and strength of arms. But this very year, in the days of June, sudden war came upon us out of Mordor, and we were swept away. We were outnumbered, for Mordor has allied itself with the Easterlings and the cruel Haradrim; but it was not by numbers that we were defeated. A power was there that we have not felt before. “Some said that it could be seen, like a great black horseman, a dark shadow under the moon. Wherever he came a madness filled our foes, but fear fell on our boldest, so that horse and man gave way and fled. Only a remnant of our eastern force came back, destroying the last bridge that still stood amid the ruins of Osgiliath. “I was in the company that held the bridge, until it was cast down behind us. Four only were saved by swimming: my brother and myself and two others. But still we fight on, holding all the west shores of Anduin; and those who shelter behind us give us praise, if ever they hear our name: much praise but little help. Only from Rohan now will any men ride to us when we call.
If I understand right, the attack came suddenly, leaving little time to gather the needed forces or to hold a war council to determine the best course of action. Even during the Return of the King, when Gondor’s safety was put in direct danger, Denethor had time to form a plan and do some preparation for the battle to come. He send the messenger to Rohan to call his allies for help, he and Faramir debated how to process with their strategy, as in, should they sacrifice their forces in Osgiliath to keep enemy at bay for as long as it is possible or redraw the army and focus on Minas Tirith alone. But from Boromir's story, it seems that despite keeping an eye on the Mordor and guarding the river, Gondor was not ready for the mass attack and it is not just the orcs, Easterlings and Haradrim united forces but the dreading dark powers of Nazguls that brought a great loss to their army as well. 
And this makes me think, did Boromir even have time to consult the battleplan with his father? Who, as we remember, was the highest rank commander and one that took an active part in planning the defense and mind you, did a pretty good job of it for decades. Did Denethor send his sons into possible the most dangerous battle Gondor experienced in the last decades to do his will, with a clear plan or did Boromir and Faramir were forced to act as they were, relying on their war experience, bravery and the little bits of informations gathered in pretty chaotic battle due to Nazgul’s spreading dread between Gondor’s forces? Did during the battle Boromir (and Faramir) come to the final conclusion that the bridge must be destroyed at any cost, even if this means to sacrifice the whole regiment, brother and himself? Or was that the plan from the start, their desperate suicidal mission to begin with?
The situation is dire, even the bravest soldiers aren’t immune to the fear and dark presence of the Nazgul, it is be or not to be for Gondor, because either they stop the enemy right here and there or Minas Tirith may not survive and with it, all the Middle-Earth may be lost. At that moment, those who accompanied Boromir and Faramir understood they had little to no chance to survive but their sacrifice may still save Gondor. And yes, soldiers were pushed to the brink of exhaustion, as we have no idea how long the battle - the Gondor counterattack lasted but also, Boromir (and Faramir) did not just send people on pretty much suicidal task, he lead them to the last moment of battle, he leapt with them into dangerous water. And I think that yes, this will to sacrifice his own soldiers to ensure Gondor’s safety could tarnish some of his reputation, especially right away after the battle, but because he was there to the bitter end and put his life on the line like any other soldier did, people still could love and admire him and be saddened by his death. 
And they did, didn't they? Boromir's decisions led to people's death yet it's thank to the same decision that enemy was drove back and half of Osgiliath stayed under Gondor's control:
“So near to Mordor?” said Beregond quietly. “Yes, there it lies. We seldom name it; but we have dwelt ever in sight of that shadow: sometimes it seems fainter and more distant; sometimes nearer and darker. It is growing and darkening now; and therefore our fear and disquiet grow too. And the Fell Riders, less than a year ago they won back the crossings, and many of our best men were slain. Boromir it was that drove the enemy at last back from this western shore, and we hold still the near half of Osgiliath. For a little while. But we await now a new onslaught there. Maybe the chief onslaught of the war that comes.”
So eventual resentment for Boromir's recklessness may be subdued with passing time, as people saw how in the end it saved them for another year.
In the book, Faramir was thinking about his men and argued with Denethor should they try to hold Osgiliath or retreat their army and though I think both plans had merit, it feels to me that Boromir and Denethor had more similar approach to battles; that sometimes you must sacrifice your own forces if such sacrifice will allow you to buy the precious time for Minas Tirith. And hey, maybe Faramir was once like his brother and father in that regard, but the battle and what came after destroying the bridge was what made him rethink this strategy? And yeah, the appendix states that between the brothers there was great love and “no jealousy or rivalry had arisen between them” but seeing how Faramir talk about his dead brother in the books, I wonder if this critique of Boromir’s recklessness isn’t somehow tied to some PTSD from the “bridge experience” that is like, the last battle they took part together? I may be misremembering the events, so sorry for that, but I’m pretty sure Faramir told Denethor that Boromir is dead because of Denethor's choice to send him to Elrond, so there is some hidden anger, frustration and lashing out, I think?
(though the recklessness of Boromir may have never been about his battle deeds and decisions, but that he left the City for the quest soon after that? Something Faramir wished to do, but was not chosen?)
Sorry, it is late and I’m rambling, but I would love to learn more about how good Boromir was at strategy. How much his passion for war lore helped him to plan and lead people, how much of the “destroy the bridge at any cost” moment was planned or acted out of desperation? How much did it burden him to know that Gondor’s safety was paid with his soldiers’ life he himself led to their death? A choice he would make again and again, if needed.
Seriously, the burden of responsibility Boromir and his family carried for years is so underrated.
BOROMIR RETOOK OSGILIATH!!! Did yall know this?? I did in theory but in practice it just hit me, both the east AND the west sides of Osgiliath were overrun in the initial invasion from the Morgul Vale!!! The orcs had ENTIRE control of the river crossing!! Bridge intact and all!! Boromir had to BESEIGE THE RUIN HIMSELF!!! With no aid from other provinces, no reinforcements from any other Lord and he had NO TIME at all, they needed to win back at least half of the city yesterday just to ensure they didn’t lose control of the Pelennor and all access to the roads and safe escape for refugees. And Boromir KNEW they wouldn’t be able to hold one side by force alone, they just didn’t have the numbers!
And with all this internalised, a lot else makes sense to me. This narrative within some of the soldiers that has this quiet… almost angry tone of ‘Faramir is just as capable a tactician as Boromir, he’s just less reckless’. As well as Boromir’s leaving, when you would imagine that to be out of the question when he’s such a pivotal figure for so many. Boromir! Used up all the trust and respect he had garnered from Gondor just to win back Osgiliath and then destroy the bridge!! He didn’t just lead a massive defence where only 4 soldiers survived, that was the last engagement in a gruelling siege that saw him asking things of his soldiers that he never had before. He used reckless and desperate tactics to reclaim each control point he needed and he drove his soldiers to the BRINK of exhaustion and grief and THEN he stood in front of all who were left and just asked them to straight up die. He had to tell them!!!!! to make sure!!!! they leaped into the river in the end, not to save their lives, but to keep their bodies from enemy hands!!!! FFFFF
THE DESPERATION! THE QUESTiONiNG!!! And Faramir would have fought him on it! Faramir would have disagreed with so much! This wasn’t adding to the glory of Gondor, this wasn’t enhancing their legacy, this wasn’t what Gondorians DO! And despite still following Boromir’s orders, people would have known he was against these decisions. And when Boromir, Faramir and those two others were found crawling out onto the riverbank down the Anduin, trust in Boromir was shaken, love for Boromir was darkened. And though, even through it all, they held both love and trust in him, and grieved him desperately when he was lost, it was hard to remember him without this. And Boromir knew that!! He knew that Faramir was now in a position of more warmth from their soldiers. He knew what he had lost in the siege, he had known he would lose it from the start! And he deemed it all necessary, he made these calculations and decided it was either this or imminent defeat! 
(Because Boromir has never cared about his image beyond how it can help him!!! Ever!! No moment in the book does he EVER show even the slightest concern for how others see him!!! How is him being self conscious a thing the fandom believes!!! AAAA)
And I’m inclined to agree he was right because Faramir does not succeed in retaking Osgiliath again. We don’t know the shifting of army numbers, it’s highly possible for Faramir to have had either less or more soldiers at his disposal by the time it comes to RotK, but the basic reality is that Boromir retook Osgiliath whereas Faramir didn’t. And Faramir tried! He put a great deal of effort into it! He probably made some excellent tactical decisions and won back as much as he could. But he was never going to sacrifice his nobility or morals for anything, so he had to retreat in the end. And then the city was besieged! 
But it was a CIVILIAN-LESS city! Because of Boromir’s decisions!! And because of the nervous, fearful, teeth gritted and bitterly mournful sacrifice of soldiers who followed him. Who all deserved better! They were good people and they had lives and loves and passions and they gave it up to the evil god at their door just to give everyone else one more year. And their friends and family were well within their rights to blame Boromir for not finding another way! Which Boromir! Also! Accepted! He made bold decisions and trusted in his own judgement but then accepted when he had been wrong!!! ALWAYS!! EVEN AT THE VERY END-!!!!! FUCK.
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sleepysebris · 1 year ago
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:) 🖤
@mlsecretsanta gift for @thequeenofspace! happy belated holidays and apologies for the delay, had a serious family emergency followed by sickness! I had so much fun making this though, was so excited to finally draw these two 🖤 hope you enjoy!!!
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loolilyumm · 15 days ago
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The night we met
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asavt · 9 months ago
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Once upon a time a small rat walked into my web...
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thebrainrotsreal · 2 months ago
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Drew this real quick because I fucking love these two so much ???? Especially Bee. I wish they interacted more so badly. PLEASE.
Also learning how to draw these guys.. slowly.
#IT WILL NEVER NOT BE FUNNY TO ME HOW DELIGHTED B GOT ??? FOR VIOLENCE?#the brainrotsreal's art tag ✧˖°:*♡#like okay you have d17/megatron okay#d17 got consumed by vengeance. iconic of him. you SEE him grow more ruthless/ violent........AND THEN YOU HAVE B 127#he got knife hands for 0.00937 seconds and immediately KILLED PEOPLE SO EASILY IM SCREAMING SDJKJSDS#did by accident and then did it gleefully. AND SO WELL TOO LIKE ???? bro got that hunger for violence ig. got that delight.#i wish we got to see d17 and b127 interact more cause imagine b got his knife hands early and d17 was like.... alright start stabbing#and b127 is LONELY. mf is deprived of interaction and CLEARLY clingy. i see him telling d17 to stand down so he isn't hurt.#not necessarily because he has the SAME morals as orion/optimus#like look me in my eye. tell me if d17 didn't say something like “needing an ally not a leader” (friendship bait)#AND UR TELLING ME BEE WOULDN'T FOLD AND HELP HIM? HM? HMMMMMMMM?#like i feel like b's morals are mostly match whoever he's around. if he was around d-17 more? WELP? let's assassinate together bestie!#anyways optimus and elita gotta watch b fr cause mf is already an incredible ally on the battle field SDKJKDSS#like just tell him where to go and that place would DESTROYED. NO WITNESSEES LEFT. LIKE HELLO#transformers one my beloved#d 16#megatron#tf one#tf one megatron#tf one b 127#b 127#transformers one fanart#never know how many actual tags to use istg.#imagine being isolated for years and all that shit went down like what is going on in b's brain rn. mf got 3 friends and then lost one#SO QUICKLY
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timethehobo · 6 months ago
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Would yall believe me if I said I meant to do a simple sketch?… 💀
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choochooboss · 3 months ago
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Battle Subway Brawl! (Feat. Cynthia & Wally!)
The subway bosses have invited the two Pokémon champions to have the full Battle Subway experience. In exchange they get to test the power of mega-evolutions!
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My contribution to the @battle-facility-zine! This digital zine focuses on all battle facility leaders in the whole Pokémon series (including spinoffs!) and it’s totally FREE! Please check it out for more amazing Pokémon/submas content (both art & fics)!!
This is my first time being part of a zine project and I’m glad to say was a great experience! The whole thing was well organised, the arrangers were nice and easy to communicate with & kept us well informed, and the other contributors were happy to give feedback!
This comic is my continuation for Pokémon Masters EX event ”All Aboard The Victory Train”! Cynthia visits Unova regularly to see Caitlin and compete in Pokémon World Tournament but for some curious reason hasn’t been to the Battle Subway. The twins must feel anxious about it!
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As a side note, during my character research @skyreptain pointed out to me that in Wally’s room in ORAS there is a globe with pins in both Sinnoh and Unova, but it isn’t addressed any further. What could this mean?
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I wish I could’ve included many more ideas in here but cramming a battle between 8 characters within 4 pages was already quite the challenge so I had to cut off quite a bit (and I had to rush some parts unfortunately). I hope the result is still entertaining!
Thanks for reading!!
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palkea · 1 year ago
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thing i made i figured was decent enough to post :p
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savanir · 1 month ago
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DP x DC Prompt [21]
Danny who has finished school, distances himself more and more from his parents as they slide further into GIW madness, sabotages the portal, sees Vlad also actually getting wary of these government assholes, grows up, and then after a particularly rough fight becomes a Green Lantern. Then says “I do not want to do this anymore” and takes the opportunity immediately to dip and ditch earth and doesn’t at all mind being assigned to one of the far sectors. In fact when he finds out sector reassignment is a thing he requests it right away.
“Only request my aid for earth related things if there is no other option, otherwise I don’t want anything to do with that place anymore”
And both John and Hal are like, “uh, you know what- sure…” basically all Earth Lanterns get Earth fatigue, it’s normal. Though it usually takes some time.
Sadly stuff happens and Danny’s aid is needed, like it’s all Earth Lantern hands on deck, Sojourner is there too n everything.
And the moment things are working out and the situation seems resolved on Earth the GIW with the Fentons pull up and are like “You have eluded us for YEARS, but we knew you would return someday Phantom! this time you will not escape us!”
And Danny is like, “God fucking dammit- ok I have been here for too long, I’m heading back to my sector. And this time I am staying there, Earth be damned”
And like the threat has been contained so the other Green Lanterns follow Danny out into the stratosphere while these government goons are screaming bloody murder up at Phantom.
and Danny is like, “ok fine, I’ll give the tl;dr, so essentially, my existence is considered illegal by the US government and I don’t really want to get caught, experimented on and then terminated because of my biology”
“Are you serious?” “I promise you, I wish I was just making that up.” “And then you decided to just leave?” the ‘are you giving up? are you just letting this injustice stand??’ is unspoken but Danny can hear it. Or he’s just projecting his own hang ups about it all on them, that’s also possible. 
“I mean it has worked for me really well these past few years. if you want to look into it check out the Anti-Ecto Acts. But personally I’m over it, I can just no longer help with Earth that’s it”
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bet-on-me-13 · 1 year ago
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The First Supervillain
So! A Typical "Early Start" AU where the events of The Show happen early in the Timeline. Like, in the 70's or 80's.
Danny never quite managed to fix his Public Perception, and even years into his career people still saw him as the Villain.
Coincidentally Valerie was seen as a Hero because of how often they were seen fighting. Even after they revealed their Identities and got together, they still had the occasional Battle. It was their love language.
His role as the Villain was Cemented when Pariah launched his Second Invasion of Earth after some dumbass accidentally freed him, and Danny took the Blame for it. Instead of being seen as the Hero who battled Pariah and stopped the Invasion, he was seen as the Tyrant to launched the Invasion in the first place, with Red Huntess being the one to defeat him in one final Ultimate Battle.
And honestly? He was fine with that. Now that he was the King of the Ghost Zone, he had the Authority to Regulate the Portal so villains stopped getting through. And that meant that he wasn't needed to stop random Ghost Attacks anymore. He could finally focus on College and his own Life, instead of sacrificing everything to act as the Protector of the Human Realm.
Val continued to be a Hero for a few more years, eventually retiring when it became Clear that the new generation of Heroes could pick up the Slack.
He went to College, got a Job as an Aerospace Engineer, and eventually proposed to Valerie.
About 20 years since his initial Accident, and he was doing great! He had moved into a humble home on the edge of town with his loving wife Val, his beautiful daughter Ellie, and his cute dog Cujo.
Yeah, life was good.
Until the day Danny accidently caused a Mass Crisis.
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Superman was having some extreme trouble in dealing with his current Opponent. He had just been flying around the City, patrolling as Usual, when all of a sudden he had been attacked by a Flying Mech Suit.
At first he had assumed that Lex was giving it another Go, but he quickly realized that was not the case when the Armor seemed to Phase though solid matter in the middle of the battle. Lex had never made Tech advanced enough to do that on the fly.
This opponent was tough too. Strong enough and Durable enough to go blow for blow with him, and seemingly able to pull Advanced Weaponry from out of nowhere whenever he wanted. As tough as it was to admit, Superman as losing the Battle.
Then, without warning, the battle stopped. His opponent was staring at the space just behind him, with a look of pure dread. He turned around, and his heart stopped.
Floating behind him, staring right past him and directly at the Mech Suit, was the First Villain Phantom.
He looked much the same as when he had last been seen, although he was definitely Older. He had snow white hair, and glowing green eyes that seemed to stare right past him and into his very soul. He was wearing what seemed to be a costume of sorts, with an all black suit, white gloves, and white boots. Over his Shoulders sat a Cloak made of Stars, and above his head sat a Crown made of an Icy Blue Fire.
The Mech tried for a greeting, "Er- Hello t-Lord Phantom. How do you d-"
"Skulker."
"Y-yes?"
"What are you doing here? I thought I gave you explicit orders to stay in the Ghost Zone until further notice. You disobeyed me."
"Okay look. I got excited, that's my fault. It's just, I got anxious waiting. Can you really blame me? I've been waiting 20 years to take another Crack at the Human World, what's it matter if I left a few weeks Early?"
"I told you. You were supposed to wait exactly 20 Years, and you left Early. This calls for punishment."
"No wait!"
"Let's see how you feel after a few days as Soup."
The Villain pulled out a Thermos, and in a flash of green light, Skulker was gone, and the King was capping the Thermos. He then turned to Superman.
"I apologize for him, he decided to leave ahead of schedule." The King addressed him. "Now, Kryptonian. Rest and tend to your wounds, you will need to be in your best health if you want to continue saving the lives of those people below us."
With a dramatic flare, the King reached up and Tore a hole in Space. Through the Hole, Superman could only see an infinite Green Void, with the sound of screams cheering being heard through the rift.
The King departed through the Tear in Spacetime, and it closed behind him.
Superman tried to collect himself, and activated his League Emergency Comms.
"Attention All Founding Members, and Justice League Dark Members. This is Superman calling for an immediate Emergency Meeting."
He took a deep breath.
"Phantom is Back."
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molinaskies · 2 months ago
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I rewatched Sonic Twitter Takeover 7 recently and been thinking a lot about this question (this is only part of the answer given) because I had a little epiphany about it.
Obviously these aren’t really ”””canon”””. The lore revelations to be had in these takeovers aren’t supposed to prove any major theories, BUT I like to look at the takeovers as a general guide for how the characters are meant to be perceived at the time of their release.
I remember people reacting to both this takeover and takeover 6 (sonic frontiers) a bit poorly because of how Amy’s feelings for Sonic were downplayed. Given the recent stuff with the Gens remaster, too, this still feels particularly relevant.
Amy’s romantic feelings for Sonic have been downplayed—there’s no denying that—but I don’t think they’re being erased. With the exception of that one clip from takeover 6 (where Amy says she loves Sonic, Tails teases her about it, and Amy backpedals, saying she said “like,” not “love”—very Boom! Amy, btw), Amy’s feelings have still been on prominent display.
However, two things have changed:
1) Amy’s love has matured,
And, more importantly, in my book—
2) Sonic’s response has matured.
In the above clip, Amy states emphatically that Sonic is “her’s” and that she loves him and that he’s perfect, but kind of stumbles over herself once she realizes what she says. Important to note is that she doesn’t take it back at all, meaning that she meant what she said, but probably would have said it differently if she had given it foresight, given the setting they’re in.
This reads to me like Amy is still very confident in her feelings but is making a conscious effort to be less pushy about it—perhaps for Sonic’s sake. However, sometimes it just gets away from her because her love is just so plentiful. It’s cute!
And what makes it even cuter for me is that Sonic is, just, like, totally okay with this?
What does he do when she goofed up and gets flustered about it? He laughs! Short and sweet. He’s very aware of her affection, and he doesn’t mind it at ALL. He loves when he can get reactions out of her (directly or not). It’s in this same takeover that Sonic rags on strawberry shortcake (Amy’s favourite cake flavour) again—specifically to tease her—and he laughs the exact same way, there, too!
(It’s also implied, there, that Sonic gets Amy to chase him, so he seeks out the game just as much as she does.)
Sonic’s response can still read as distinctly neutral on a romantic level, for those who’d prefer that, but objectively it’s a lot more overtly positive. There is no denying that he enjoys her attention.
So, it’s a rebrand. For sure. But I actually find this to be a lot more wholesome? Zainey Amy™️ (when written well and not over-the-top for comedy like in certain games) absolutely has its appeal and deserves its place in canon, but the idea of Amy literally being unable to contain her love for Sonic and her compliments bubbling over is very cute to me. I also find it more powerful and significant because she’s finding her words to express her love instead of just reacting. It’s more thoughtful and reads as more genuine, as a result.
It’s different, but in my opinion, not bad! She’s not boring. She’s still giddy, passionate, loving, and more compassionate than she’s ever been. And Sonic is more accepting (enticed, even) as a result.
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ryllen · 1 year ago
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I was just THINKING OF HOW ANNOYING Sebek is, H O N E S T .
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screechingfromthevoid · 2 months ago
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AND ANOTHER THING
Dorian has always been super specific about his love for Orym.
In the threat scene Dorian says "I care about you more than this" which, I thought before I rewatched the scene, I was misremembering. I thought he really said "I care about you all more than this", making it about the collective, not wanting to leave the group. But no. He said he cared about Orym more than he cared about the crown.
Another thing I thought I misremembered was "no debts between us". For whatever reason I thought Dorian said "no debts between friends" but no. He was very specific with his words and inflections. "There are no debts between us"
"my heart aches that I cannot be there to help you" "sending you fairer winds" "I just like to see you happy" "you're the reason I'm here" "let me comfort you for once."
It has always been about Orym. It has been. It always will be.
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fangrurin · 8 months ago
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Fashion of the Great Houses of Westeros: House Tully of Riverrun
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raycatzdraws · 6 months ago
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A Linked Universe meets The Dark Crystal AU! I don't even remember what started it at this point. I remembered that the Dark Crystal and Age of Resistance are things I like, blinked, and woke up three days later with an AU and a bunch of art.
The designs and the story are a wip and for fun so expect a lot of variation! (I have a few different beginnings, ideas for different designs, etc)! :D
In addition to #linked universe I'll be using the tags #the dark crystal lu au and #courage of the dark crystal!
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collophora · 8 months ago
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"Let's fix this drawing" *redraw the whole thing*
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