#armand is the dom in DM

[jullythevamp]

i have the idea that armand is hyperfixated with sex toys and bdsm and i can't stop imagining armand appearing with a saw trap in the bedroom saying "come here daniel my beloved. I have something to test on you." and daniel is like " hm either i will die or have the best orgasm of my life... im coming!"

[thequeenofsastiel]

I love that Armand was super aggressive towards Daniel at the beginning of 1x05, but when he had to stop Louis from torturing Daniel, he was very polite. It was like it was important for him to be a soothing presence for Louis in that moment, so he set aside his disdain for Daniel to emotionally support his Dom, something I think he spent a lot of time doing.

I love my little amber-eyed pumpkin 😭😍

Do NOT make this post about DM

[pynkhues]

I feel like from browsing tags on tumblr and on AO3 that DM is more popular than Loustat, which I find super interesting. Personally I love both so I’m happy to get any content, but I was initially really surprised that was the case given the amount of content in canon is almost the exact inverse to fandom.

I wonder if this is because DM hasn’t happened yet so there’s more to speculate, on up to and including the dynamics at play. But I do ALSO wonder if it’s because it’s more acceptable to ship and you’re less likely to have gotten hate about DM compared to Loustat over the last two years. Which I find soooo funny because if that’s the case, when it actually happens I suspect people will be in for a rude awakening.

Anyway, just wondering if you’ve noticed this and had any thoughts? You’re very insightful about these things and I know have been in various fandoms before.

Ah, it's kinda funny you bring this up, because I was actually talking about something adjacent to this with @hypermania yesterday.

I think they're a fun ship with a fun dynamic generally, and I think you're right that a part of it comes from the fact that DM hasn't happened yet. I think that opens up the overall possibility of what their dynamic and relationship could be, especially given there's a wide window of time to play around in between the 70s and the modern era. I think their particular dynamic can at first glance look pretty trope-y too in a way that often appeals to fandoms (enemies to lovers! Mutual obsession! A hardened character who's actually a traumatised victim who just wants love and the snarky antagonist who'll love him - entire fandoms have been built on the back of that), and I think as a ship, people probably see them as having less baggage than Louis and Lestat, both in terms of actual canon elements (no dead child, no dv, no murder, etc.) and in terms of -- y'know. *gestures to the fandom*

I also think, at least in terms of fic, that people probably think Daniel and Armand are easier characters to write, which - - mm. I think Daniel definitely is easier to write than Louis and Lestat are, but I don't think Armand is at all. This is actually what me and Courtney were talking about yesterday - that there's a tendency to defang all these characters, but particularly Armand it seems? There's this sort of fanon version of him that's almost as popular as housewife Louis which is as this waifish little weirdo, when Armand's pretty specifically dangerous, especially in the show. He's a master manipulator and an apex predator, and while, of course, he's not just those things, it does seem to be a part of him that's softened when it comes to writing fic which has him falling pretty neatly into a character archetype that I think is just generally very popular in fandoms, even though it's not necessarily the way I'd personally interpret him.

I also - - mm. Trying to find a way to say this, haha. Sex work is a pretty popular trope in fanfic, and it has been in every fandom that I've been in. I think Armand having a canonical past in that is appealing to certain parts of fandom, for better and for worse, to say nothing of the canonical BDSM element of his character (which I think is less popular with Louis, because I think Louis as a dom didn't match with established post-s1 fanon between seasons, which is kind of interesting to me in particular given I think it makes a lot of sense).

So yeah, I think it's a mix of things, ranging from them just generally having an appealing dynamic and being open to possibility and having less (perceived, at least) baggage both in canon and fandom, and them also - particularly Armand - being shaped by fanon into versions that just generally seem to be popular across fandoms.

[autistically-zoinked]

Having to reread all my favorite DM fics because people aren't posting/updating enough and I refuse to read sub Armand/dom Daniel fics 😔

[lesbians4armand]

Fic authors self rec! When you get this, reply with your favorite five fics that you've written, then pass on to at least five other writers! Spread the self-love 💞

ahh what a lovely idea!!

my fave fics i’ve written!!

- honeysuckle sips from your rolling hips (armand/daniel, iwtv, m)

Not only was this fic super fun to write it was also a favourite of people who read it which made me love it all the more!!

- My Lover, Melt! (armand/daniel, tvc (bookverse), e)

First fic written for this ship that I wrote in a daze at midnight because I knew i just had to. really fun for me and the song just clicks so well for Them.

- East of Eden (robert fischer/dom cobb, inception, m)

Short but SUPER fun, I will always adore my inception fics because i just adore that world and the possibilities of it, and this fic has delightful memories of coming up with in over dms with two beloved mutuals

- A Gypsy’s Ribbon (tommy/alfie, peaky blinders, m)

Not what I would consider my best but it is my only PB fic and it is inspired by one of my favourite poems, really enjoyed writing it. Tommy/Alfie will always hold SUCH a lovely place in my heart!

- sweet things for the sea (armand/daniel, iwtv, m)

So very difficult to pick just five but I have to talk about my one f/f fic as a lesbian. butchfemme devils minion is just too good to me and sirenmand lives in my head (and dani’s) rent free.

[monstersinthecosmos]

listen it's not lazy if it's the best theme ever okay lmao it's just sensible!!!!! also i think requests/whatever the fuck you want both sound great lol WE TRUST YOU BB. unrelated but i've been thinking of like, cockcooling/holewarming or whatever the vampiric equivalent of cockwarming is lol? like maybe armand enjoys the feeling of daniel's cock inside him while he feeds on him and gradually becomes warmer and daniel gets a thrill out of sticking his dick into a cold hole. jesus. idk. what do you think? 🫣

YOU KNOW YOURE REMINDING ME, I didn't put it on AO3 because it was so short but I did have a temperature play drabble about them because yes I surely do think about stuff like that, and especially the transference of body heat. Like, if you put Armand's cold dead cock in your mouth you would quite literally cockwarm it; Daniel's body heat would transfer to it. If Daniel fucks Armand's cold dead asshole I don't think that would get any warmer, though. I wonder if it would make Daniel's cock smaller. Also like, I try to set all my fics in the same universe, so Usher Armand is the same person as Gallows Bird Armand, so he does some cockwarming in Gallows Bird. My thesis about DM is that Armand is like, trying to contextualize his experience in Venice by trying the same things on Daniel. I could see him wanting to cockwarm Daniel, to repeat something he did in his youth, and I wonder if he always tries to find ways to feel submissive even though he's the one with the teeth. It feels degrading and subservient but Daniel is still the one sticking his dick into a monster and the one who's truly in danger. It goes back to the conversation with Marius, and the one with Denis, about which one is the other's slave, and the way power dom/sub power dynamics are actually really nuanced. I wonder if the vampire equivalent of cockwarming also is like. Biting, but not swallowing. Like the goal here is sort of, an imitation, but in a sort of impotent way. Can he taste Daniel and not swallow? Can he press his tongue against a scabbed over wound, and taste the old blood, but not drink it? Is there a way for Daniel to just bleed out where he still experiences the blood loss but it just goes to waste, and no one gets to drink it? Hmm!!!

[apoptoses]

I'm obsessed with your fics where Daniel doms, too! My favorite part of it is probably Daniel figuring out how to please Armand and that they feel it differently! So intimate, so good, I was melting 🫠

I don't have any ideas for you, just wanted to say that it's a gem among all the dm fics ❤️ If you ever write more, I'll eat it up. (That ask suggesting maker/fledgling roleplay was onto smth though.)

Thank you!!!

That one was really important to me because like, just because these characters don't experience genital pleasure that doesn't mean they experience no pleasure? There's so much in the books that hints at (or directly describes) them having heightened sensitivity, sensations that once would be local be spread through their entire body, experiencing strong sensual pleasures that to a mortal would just be average sensation or very localized.

And in a similar vein, no orgasm doesn't mean that someone didn't have a sexual experience.

So figuring out what could be pleasurable to someone like Armand, what that experience could be for him, how he could be on the receiving end of sexual/sensual attention- that felt important to me. And by proxy it was important to have Daniel explore because there's no way he wouldn't be curious.

So yeah!! I'm glad you liked it so much, I need to experiment with that more asap 🥰

[vaperarmand]

hi my taste in music is extremely uncool and limited, so I didn't think I had anything to contribute. but then I thought about it and future management (you don't need nobody else) by roger taylor is a DM song to me, actually. in a "is it mind control or is it just really good domming" kind of way

no because this is good and also exactly the genre i love. is it mind control or is it just really good domming is kind of their thesis statement as well 😭

"you'll find i'm gonna invite you to try my machines" is so armand making daniel play with his blenders btw. sniled thinking of this

[james651bg]

Interview with the vampire(M4ApM)

Pairing: MxM

Ship Name: Devil's Minion (Armand/Daniel Molloy)

!!!!! Spoilers Below !!!!!

—---------------------------------

!!Devil's Minion TV/Book spoilers!!

So we know from the books Armand spent the 70s following Daniel around. They were in a toxic on and off again, situationship sorta deal.

So I was thinking what if after the reveal of Daniel having been turned into a vampire by Armand. Daniel becomes the hunter and Armand becomes the hunted. Like Armand hides away because he believes Daniel will grow to hate him for what he did to him and he can't bare to see Daniel angry at him but he also couldn't stand the idea of his fascinating boy dying.

What I'm looking for in a partner:

*Able to play as Daniel Accurately

*Switch Verse

* Partners between 24 to 30 as I'm 24

* Be able to do 2 to 3 paragraphs (5 to 7 sentences)

*Decent grammar and punctuation

*Approximate age in your first message you send me in dm

Genres I'm looking for:

Angst, Romance, Action, Adventure, Gothic Fantasy, Dead Dove, Slow Burn

TRIGGER WARNINGS:

Blood, Book/Show Violence, Explicit Language, Dom/Sub Relationship, Drug/Alcohol Addiction

Hit me up in dms to discuss more

[oliviascully]

i love your daniel learning to dom fic so much you have no idea!! Old daniel seems naturally dominant but will we see Armand getting to appreciate that final result?

Thank you sooo much! I really appreciate you pointing this out because I partly wrote this from seeing that gap within DM fics, at least in the way of what I’m looking for. Older Daniel often gets written as a natural Dom top, which I love, but Younger Daniel never does, understandably. And I do think that could come with age, maturity, and experience. But how does that factor in with Armand if they did have the earlier relationship in the 70s/80s? If Armand is ready to take the sub role with Older Daniel, to me there had to have been some foundation of that with Young Daniel, and I don’t think he would have taken on that role without Armand wanting it and helping him learn how to.

I probably will keep this fic limited to Young Daniel but I do plan to write more of him learning and exploring this role, so Armand can get what he wants ☺️

[fagmolloy]

god yeah that sounds so good. i need to see armand fully surrender himself to louis, i just think it'd be really neat, like especially with the whole arun/amadeo/yes maitre

i think it might be a little mean for louis to call him arun here even if a little part of me wants that

tbh it's been too long since i've dabbled in dom/sub themes but keep talking, loving it here. i mean technically i could dm you but i'm having fun doing this this way asjdkflf lmk what you feel like doing

i love exploring loumand dynamics and i love twisting canon around to make my dreams come true so i appreciate that you love it here. you're welcome to hop in my dms if you'd like to discuss but this is fun, isn't it... hmm.. i will leave that up to you!

[darkrpfinders]

Interview with the vampire(M4ApM)

Pairing: MxM

Ship Name: Devil's Minion (Armand/Daniel Molloy)

!!!!! Spoilers Below !!!!!

—---------------------------------

!!Devil's Minion TV/Book spoilers!!

So we know from the books Armand spent the 70s following Daniel around. They were in a toxic on and off again, situationship sorta deal.

So I was thinking what if after the reveal of Daniel having been turned into a vampire by Armand. Daniel becomes the hunter and Armand becomes the hunted. Like Armand hides away because he believes Daniel will grow to hate him for what he did to him and he can't bare to see Daniel angry at him but he also couldn't stand the idea of his fascinating boy dying.

What I'm looking for in a partner:

*Able to play as Daniel Accurately

*Switch Verse

* Partners between 24 to 30 as I'm 24

* Be able to do 2 to 3 paragraphs (5 to 7 sentences)

*Decent grammar and punctuation

*Approximate age in your first message you send me in dm

Genres I'm looking for:

Angst, Romance, Action, Adventure, Gothic Fantasy, Dead Dove, Slow Burn

TRIGGER WARNINGS:

Blood, Book/Show Violence, Explicit Language, Dom/Sub Relationship, Drug/Alcohol Addiction

Hit me up in dms to discuss more

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[astralrpfinder]

Interview with the vampire(M4ApM)

Ship name: Devil's Minion (Daniel Molloy/Armand)

Pairing: MxM

!!!!! Spoilers Below !!!!!

—---------------------------------

!!Devil's Minion TV/Book spoilers!!

So we know from the books Armand spent the 70s following Daniel around. They were in a toxic on and off again, situationship sorta deal.

So I was thinking what if after the reveal of Daniel having been turned into a vampire by Armand. Daniel becomes the hunter and Armand becomes the hunted. Like Armand hides away because he believes Daniel will grow to hate him for what he did to him and he can't bare to see Daniel angry at him but he also couldn't stand the idea of his fascinating boy dying.

What I'm looking for in a partner:

*Able to play as Daniel Accurately

*Switch Verse

* Partners between 24 to 30 as I'm 24

*Have and use discord (I like to set up a server to keep everything neat)

* Be able to do 2 to 3 paragraphs (5 to 7 sentences) I'll do the same. I guess that means I'm looking for a literate partner

*Decent grammar and punctuation

*Approximate age in your first message you send me in dm

Genres I'm looking for:

Angst, Romance, Action, Adventure, Gothic Fantasy, Dead Dove (🕊️), Slow Burn

*Trigger Warnings:

Blood, Book/Show typical violence, Explicit Language, Dom/Sub Relationship, Drugs/Alcohol Addiction, Canon Typical Behavior

Hit me up in dms to discuss more

MESSAGE IF INTERESTED!

[apoptoses]

"and know that somewhere out there someone will be excited for it" IT IS I, FAM, DA, I am *that* someone. Look I'm not saying that I think about your upcoming WIP at least once a day but I'm also not NOT saying it 😌 And in defense of dom!Daniel, Anne wrote DM with a clear BDSM perspective in mind in which they constantly switched and struggled for domination (see: Daniel manhadling Armand every time he got the chance/was allowed to do so), and while Armand was ultimately in control, Anne said something along the lines of how falling for Daniel/giving him the dark gift had been Armand's ultimate act of submission and surrender, so imo it would not only be in character for Daniel to actively want dominance after being made a vampire, but it would also flesh out their later/post canon dynamics beautifully. Full circle stuff baby, they deserve it (and honestly so do we!!!) xoxo DA

Dungeon anon, coming in with the smut facts. You're the dom!Daniel lawyer we need but don't deserve 🥹

But exactly! Armand likes it both ways and after more than a decade whipping Daniel's ass into shape? He deserves to lay back and get everything he wants. And Daniel has learned from the best so I really think he'd have some tricks up his sleeve.

And, in non wip things- I'm also thinking a lot lately about how much Daniel describes him as a handsome young man. I know pretty Armand in delicate things is so popular and I love that image of him so much. But my brain keeps playing on repeat all of the very masculine things Daniel would get bent out of shape over when he looks at him.

I mean Marius shaved the peach fuzz off his face but he didn't get everything. We know he's got some hair under his arms, he would have the slightest bit of an adam's apple raised up on his throat. He looks like a young man, if Daniel got him worked up enough to bring up the blood sweat he'd smell like a young man.

(and also? I think he's well built in all areas even if immortality has rendered those parts of him useless)

And after a lifetime of being compared to a Botticelli, to waify little androgynous statues- what a fucking revelation it would be for Armand to put on some boxer briefs and a tank top with the sides cut out and have Daniel go nuts over what a man he looks like in that.

idk the heart wants what it wants and apparently I need to put my weirdo complexes aside and write that one. Armand just deserves to have all aspects of himself appreciated, you know?

Thank you for the hype, as always ♥ My existence on tumblr is made so much better by your messages.