#anti-100yq

[fairydares]

Sorry to flame 100yq on main but just caught all the way up and omgggg what ever is even going on in this manga??? It's always the same:

Absolute rando villain with who looks like he walked straight out of a completely different manga (...and I'm saying this about FAIRY TAIL): *swaggers in waving his singular (one, total) character trait as obnoxiously as possible in everyone's face, especially Team Natsu's for no reason*

100YQ!Natsu: *picks a fight with the villain that still manages to feel out-of-pocket and out-of-character anyways*

Gray and Lucy: *do nothing but take turns providing on-the-nose commentary while wearing Shocked Pikachu face*

Rando Villain: *breaks some fundamental rule about magic which renders Natsu's strength not even outmatched so much as irrelevant, which is presumably just some kind of smug flex because they always just saunter off after this*

[beebeeswee]

i will be a juvia defender until the day i die.

i really do welcome anyone to dm me or send me an ask and i'll talk about this more - because i really think anti-juvias completely misunderstand both her and gray's characters, and the context of the show they're in.

juvia is a character who has been excluded her entire life, her magic made her abandoned by and outcasted from her peers and former romantic partners. then she meets gray, the only person in her whole life who has stopped the rain (and when he leaves her the rain comes back), and she falls in love with him and the rest of fairy tail, where she finds people who accept her wholeheartedly. i think it's beautiful that she's able to stay resilient and wear her heart on her sleeve after everything she'd been through.

gray is a character who doesn't believe he deserves love, he has such a deep self-loathing he can't imagine a world where he's worthy of happiness after 'everything he's done', and juvia is someone who loves him unconditionally, who never turns away from him, despite everything he's done to her. part of his development over the main series and 100yr quest is him realising that about himself. they heal each other.

the biggest complain that anti-gruvias have is that she's a 'sexual predator' and a 'stalker'. @ermbehindyou made the excellent point that if she's a sexual predator by that logic so is gray - his constant stripping (even infront of minors!) would be enough to get him on a list in pretty much every country in the world. but that is naturally ridiculous.

(mentioned multiple times in this scene that he is fully nude - not just in his underwear and wendy is on the boat the entire time).

fairy tail is a show that plays on sexual gags constantly, which i do take a real issue with. but that's the show, that's the humour and standards set from the beginning of the main series, and like most of the characterisation of the show, it has become insanely exaggerated as the series progressed. having said that, i think it's misogynistic to single out juvia's actions and ignore the actions of every other character. and i mean that.

call me a crazy feminist all you want but i think many of you are seeing a confident, unashamed female character with overt sexual desires and it repulses you, because it doesn't conform to society's standards of femininity. this was definitely not mashima's intentions when writing her - but his interpretations of her aren't relevant to this debate anyway are they?

i'll end this by saying juvia and gray truly match each other's freak when the humour allows it; but who show true and serious displays of selfless love for one another when it matters, and it's beautiful.

[patentedsun]

You guys I'm actually crying over chapter 204.5 (which is technically an ad for a certain company we're all boycotting btw) but ignoring the actual ad THE STORYLINE WAS SO??? GOOD???? the Natsu characterization in this was INCREDIBLE (be prepared for intense 100yq hatred) and it portrayed exactly why I fell in love with nalu in the first place....

Summary and analysis below (doesn't incl all the pages btw!!)

We start off with Lucy finding Natsu and Happy at her place, as always.

this is followed by him being like "do you think we'll peek or something" which... 100yq natsu would have... that IMPOSTER...

Anyways while she's taking a bath, Natsu and Happy are browsing around Lucy's room and find a book that stands out. (Btw right next to this book is her diary, 100yq natsu would've gone straight for that). However they end up accidentally destroying it and start panicking. They ask Lucy if they can "borrow it" and Lucy panics at first, saying it's precious and not to touch it, but relents when they say they found it "interesting".

fast forward, we see them worn out after trying and failing to find a replacement copy. ONCE AGAIN, they're doing this because it's something precious to LUCY. Not because they care about reading, or because the book has any value to them, but because they understand it's important to HER. Natsu (and Happy) going the extra mile for things that are important to Lucy is SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART of their entire dynamic.

continuing, Lucy walks into the guild and asks how they're finding the book, they say it's interesting. Lucy gets SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS and starts talking non stop ab the book. Happy asks her why this book is so important to her and...

Y I K E S.

So yeah, they ultimately decide that lying isn't it and they should apologize upfront.

this is so beautiful to me, idk like the imagery of them bowing so sincerely is so.... and like wow MASHIMA seems like natsu IS capable of acknowledging his own wrongdoings and offering genuine apologies. I'm not even talking ab the whole post tartaros situation no, I'm talking about fucking 100yq, where natsu actually physically hurts Lucy and doesn't apologize for it (AND IN FACT ITS PLAYED FOR A GAG)(IMPOSTER!!! NOT MY NATSU!!!)

Soooo Lucy doesn't take it well and runs away.

the fact that they didn't stop their search here. the fact that they EXPANDED it to other towns to try and find her the book THIS IS JUST <3333

Anyways, Lucy returns and reveals dozens of copies of the book...

My heart actually broke for her here because as someone who ig creates stuff as well, it really can be painful to have no audience interaction. And to have a book you wrote bomb like that...ouch... and of course she would've been excited, her best friends told her they found it interesting!!! my HEART. OUCH. and the sheer guilt on Natsu and Happy's faces here 😭 Once again, 100yq would've played this off for a gag...

And they all start bawling (and the ad comes in so I will stop there) but YEAH. THIS WAS SO BEAUTIFUL??? The way she's regretful too, the way they're still trying to apologize and make her feel better I'm :(. This is what makes nalu work and it feels like mashima is forgetting that ab his own work... they're both genuinely good and kind to each other... like not to get sidetracked but there has always been goofy fanservice moments but there were also so many wonderful, emotional, complex scenes with them with depth and maturity and I just feel like that's lacking now. So reading this was like getting punched in the face srsly because wow... THIS is the natsu I know and love ugh .....

[sirclowniey]

Gray crying about how painful it is to hurt his friends after beating his mind controlled friend within an inch of his life while he was already down is crazy,,, like whatever bro 😒😒

[terriluvss]

Okay so I’d like to talk about fanon Natsu today. You guy’s completely butchered my boy honestly and not just you guys but Mashima himself completely dumbs Natsu down by the time 100yq rolls around.

And it sucks, because thats not the character I grew to love.

In the galuna island Arc we really get a glimpse of how Natsu’s mind work. He does reckless things, and you may think he just doesn’t think about or understand the consequences of his actions. But he does think long term. I’d say Galuna island arc is Natsu’s way of trying to prove he is strong, by taking on an S class quest. At the time we can see the earliest point of Natsu where he may still be affected by the loss of Lisanna, after all it really hadn’t been that long at all. Lisanna died on an S class quest, so this may just be Natsu’s way of coping. To prove he could’ve protected her, that he should’ve been there by inviting Lucy. A girl similar to Lisanna but at the same time not at all. I think he sees a bit of Lisanna in Lucy early season and is why he is so protective of her; out of his own trauma and guilt.

Anyway sorry for the rant, my point stands that Natsu didn’t just take on this quest for ego reasons I believe it was because he was coping. Just like how Gray wanted to complete the Galuna island arc quest, it was his way of coping with his own trauma for Ur. Even Erza, who is so used to following rules that it would hurt her if she didn’t participate in the rules had to face the realisation that sometimes rules are meant to be broken. For everyone of them, it was their own way of dealing with their trauma. Narratively atleast. Sure a lot of this may be headcannon, but I’d say it is backen up by what’s written in fairytail.

See Natsu going on a training quest by himself after igneel died, just so he could prove he would be strong enough. Natsu’s way of coping is becoming stronger. So it explains why he’d want to go on the S class quest all of a sudden. It’s not just because he’s this force of nature troublesome idiot who wants to cause trouble, I really don’t think Natsu wants to cause trouble at all. He wants to fight because it makes him feel assured in himself. The more dangerous situations he’s able to fend off, the more assured in himself he feels. It’s honestly a bit of a harmful coping mechanism, I think it’s his search for control over what happens to him after he couldn’t control being abandoned by igneel.

I think there is a lot more to Natsu’s character than fannon portrays him. I know you guys like to portray him as a silly goofball, but if you’ve ever met a class clown behind the curtains you know they act that way for a reason. I’d say Natsu is the type of character who hides behind a happy mask. We see this in the final season, he doesn’t even tell Lucy about END and whats happening to him. He keeps it all behind a mask that he’s strong and he’ll be fine. How much more do you think Natsu is hiding behind that happy mask? We see when Gildarts asks him about Lisanna that his happy mask finally slips off, and we see a glimpse of how Natsu really feels beneath. He loses his smile, and he bluntly states “Lisanna is dead.” He doesn’t want to face this feeling or whatever Gildarts was trying to tell him about Lisanna so he begins to walk away. Like he always does with his emotions. He hides them away, like after tartaros with the grief of his father. Almost every panel where Natsu is feeling upset or turmoil, he’s facing away from the viewer. Like in the Galuna island arc when he’s scolding Gray for trying to off himself, he’s looking away with a frown. Not wanting to show how he feels.

So now you can see why I believe Natsu to be hiding behind a mask sometimes right? I hope I explained it well because I’m going to move on to talking about his intelligence. Natsu has his own smarts, it may not be Lucy’s level or Levy’s level but he is smart in his own way. Back to Galuna island again he tilts the pyramid thing so the beam isn’t melting the moon. He uses his brain guys. However fanon Natsu would just have him try to destroy the whole building or the moon. That imo just shows how little you guys know about his character. You know that guy with the paralysis nails during this arc as well? Natsu outsmarts him by recognising his power and telling him he has something on his head, causing the guy to scratch at his head and paralyse himself. Fanon Natsu likes to paint Natsu as this guy who is a destructive idiot who doesn’t know what he’s doing.

Mashima kind of dumbed down Natsu’s character as well as the series went on, it’s a shame to see but mashima did this with every character in different ways. Mellowing them out into husks of themselves. But in my opinion Natsu at his best is when he is characterised as a kid who believes strength is a shield from the world, a man who likes to make others laugh, a boy who isn’t dumb, he’s just smart in his own ways. He’s reckless sure, but he does the things he does for a reason not just for pointless fun. Natsu is a very nuanced character when you really look at him, I would say he isn’t perfect but that’s what I like about his character.

We aren’t told he’s this perfect prince of a character who can do no wrong, in fact the opposite and thats what I like about Natsu’s character because he is written as real and raw. Flawed and balanced just as real teenagers are, but he also has his good traits as well. I like this style of writing so much more than Lucy’s perfect can do no wrong writing, because it’s so much more believable and honestly much more interesting. I know people say Natsu’s a mary sue character, but honestly I don’t see it. I’d say Lucy is written more as one than he is, just because Natsu is allowed to have flaws. Neither is Erza imo, character wise at least. Both Natsu and Erza’s battles are very mary sue coded though and it’s quite grading to watch. However Character wise I think Erza and Natsu aren’t bordering Mary sue much at all.

But yeah, this has been my rant about the mischaracterisation of Natsu I’ve been seeing lately. I just constantly see him portrayed as a reckless angry idiot and it really annoys me because he’s so much more than this clueless summer child. Just like everyone in fairytail who has their own mischaracterising issues, I think Natsu is no exception to this unfortunate thing.

One thing I will add that I forgot to bring up, is fanon Nalu Natsu. It’s honestly, not Natsu at all? People portray him as this soft gentle boy who’s a sucker for romance and very possessive. It’s cute that you guys want to write your fanfictions and whatnot, but I still have a right to be uncomfortable by them. If you guy’s actually paid attention to Natsu’s character we’d see he is a Tsundere. He does not like to be soft and gentle, it makes him feel vulnerable and to him that is weak and we can see he hates being weak. Strength is important to him and vulnerability takes that away from him. We need more nalu Natsu who struggles to open up to romance, because of his past and abandonment issues. He is used to being hard and tough, please don’t forget this when you write him. And what proof do I have of this you may ask? Just look at the way he acted around Lisanna when she flirted with him. He got all bashful and defensive, because as I said he is a tsundere. He pointed his finger accusingly at Lisanna assuming she was a ‘masegaki’ which I looked up the English terminology for and it translates to precocious brat. Which imo is very much Tsundere behaviour.

Sure you could argue that Natsu didn’t have feelings for her, and that he isn’t a tsundere. But if that’s the case why doesn’t he seem uncomfortable by Lisanna in the tartaros arc instead? Why does he get so excited to rush towards Lisanna after finding her again in edolas? Imo this proves that Natsu shows his care in defensive ways because he is afraid to be vulnerable, so that is why I see this gentle soft version of Nalu Natsu that people write him to be as just hard to believe. And why I don’t see Nalu working, because I can’t see Lucy being as forward as Lisanna is. Natsu needs someone to push him out of his comfort zone, and so does Lucy. Lucy is too shy for someone like Natsu who needs someone who isn’t afraid to be bold. Anyway sorry for the off topic spiel, thats just my opinion. I don’t mind non-canon ships being written in fanfiction I actually encourage it, so whoever wants to write Nalu go ahead my point is you guys just really mischaracterise him. And sure you could argue Natsu acts like a tsundere to Lucy so that means he likes her, but he has told you how he feels about Lucy’s appearance. Natsu is capable of showing romance (to lisanna at least) he is just very afraid of being vulnerable. So I will leave you guys with some manga panels to back up my point and end this rant here.

In the bottom panels by the way, you can see how Natsu reacts to Lucy’s body vs Lisanna’s. I feel uncomfortable analysing fanservice like this as it feels very misogynistic and all, but for character reasons it does show Natsu to be someone who knows that being naked is a romantic/sexual thing. He blushes at Lisanna and doesn’t act clueless with her, so I think you guys really need to stop characterising him as this clueless idiot, because he knows what a naked body is. And he seems to like looking at Lisannas? He’s literally smiling at her, whilst for Lucy he is scowling at her like he’s just seen an unfortunate sighting of Gray’s casual tuesday morning mishaps. This makes me want to make a post on Nali now, I might do that next post. Anyways this has been my analysis of fairytail for today, have a great day guys and keep being yourself :)

[underestimated-heroine]

Warning: 100YQ-negative post (it's fine if you like it but I'm critical of it)

This latest chapter of 100YQ, for me, really just serves as another instance of fan indulgence serving as a counterpoint to fan betrayal with this Fairy Tail spinoff, wherein each chapter is just one or a series of coin flips between the two.

Idk but when nalu's been transformed into an entirely different relationship than the one I got to know in the original series, these toasty Jerza/Jellal nuggets (and even world-building nuggets, with the wizard school!) just are NOT hitting the way they could be, for me. I appreciate them and think they're interesting, but when Natsu's this flanderized, when he's lost this much depth & growth as a character...the story has also lost trust with me.

I'm not thinking "wow, that's so cool Mashima shared this lore with us!" but "huh, so that's what they spontaneously came up with to generate material for 100yq." It feels less like consistent, passionate storytelling (even of the indulgent variety) than it does a manga generator meant to keep revenue alive rather than the story itself.

And I'm grateful to it both because I love fairy tail enough to take even scraps and love that it's keeping the fandom alive but idk, it's hard not to feel somewhat let down...

[ginjaanimeloversstuff]

Okay please don't attack me for this.

But Fairy Tail used to be good, sure there are a lot off good moment, but is there anyone else who been finding a lot of cringe in the 100 yq, don't get me wrong, it's has it good times, but, it doesn't feel the same.Juvia i like her, but lately, i find her cringe. It's OK if you don't agree with my opinion, just don't attack me okay for having one

But the character developed of Lucy is good, I was not always been a fan of her, but she grew on me, and the fight scene are good.but I wish character that been forgotten lisanna would have some screen time and fighting scene, I like to see her other animal form and team up with Lucy. Without anyone making hate remarks about her.

[patentedsun]

HDKSKFJSKKD I Will Not Speak.

[yamishika]

Jellal keeps getting the most L’s in the series since his name is made up of half of them.

It was always going to be like this.

[sirclowniey]

FAIRY TAIL 100YQ CHAPTER 171 SPOILERS

Did Mashima run out of ideas why r we just doing the same shit guys 😭😭😭😭

[terriluvss]

The moefication of fairytail 😭

Before

Vs…

After

WE WERE ROBBED. 😭

[merxcurias]

pov watching gajeel and levy's characters get butchered in 100yq

[terriluvss]

I hate what they did to Natsu’s character. He was so much more wittier and mature looking back then. Now they’ve dumbed him down to dare I say an unlikeable idiot. I hate 100yq Natsu. Og series Natsu was still silly sure but he also knew when to be compassionate, when to be serious and what things meant. He knew what to say to Lucy when she needed to hear it, he knew when to snap Gray out of it, he knew when to be there for Erza.

100yq Natsu just seems like a complete idiot version of himself, I know I’m being harsh but it’s hard not to be upset about watching one of your fave characters be regressed into something their not.

There was a time when Natsu was drawn just as buff as Gajeel. Too bad the 100 years quest doesnt know that 🥲

[gruvishi]

gray and juvia deep dive & why they aren’t toxic

starting with juvia’s character. we learn very early on that juvia had no real relationships (platonic, romantic, etc) as a child, even seemingly no familial connections. this leads her to phantom lord where she believes she was born to be hated and bring trouble upon others. it’s also no secret she was very attracted to gray when they met, however she wasn’t ���crazy” for him. despite being her enemy, he tries not to harm her and saves her when she’s about to fall off the ledge, showing her how kind people can be and that they don’t always hate you for who you are. this is what opens her eyes and lets her experience happiness and see the sun for the first time ever. this is when she falls in love with gray. from here, we see juvia pop up at random times in the background seemingly “stalking” gray. in my eyes it is clear that she just wants to join their guild and find her real family. she leaves gifts (the bento box) for gray almost as a secret admirer because she gets too nervous to approach him. she knows she was their enemy and doesnt want to bring more harm to the guild or, more specifically, gray. she is constantly trying to prove herself worthy and make up for the lack of connection she had in her childhood.

gray’s character is a little more complex. he is ridden with survivor’s guilt from ur’s death (and later on ultear). he is not open emotionally with anyone, putting on this tough guy act and trying to remain cool. his hesitancy to juvia is not because of her as a person, rather than her being a romantic interest and him not knowing how to deal with those feelings. even when gray was a child under ur we see him try turning any emotions he has into anger, always appearing to be the “bigger man”. he does show interest in juvia (romantically or platonically, either way the interest is there), early on he often asks where she is or how she’s doing, even seeming excited when she makes it into the guild. gray also clearly has a different love style than juvia, as he is far more avoidant and detached than she is, but he always makes sure she is safe and tends to look for her first if she is nearby. even when he is talking kindly about natsu he gets embarrassed and turns red, so it’s obvious that he would act this way with her. in the gmg/eclipse arc he sacrifices himself for her before ultear reverses time and again in the alvarez empire arc. while all these things could be platonic displays of interest, it still furthers the point that he cares for her. juvia slowly teaches gray that being vulnerable is okay, erza even urging him to be honest with her. his honesty is that he “appreciates” her, and we know he would not hesitate to say he dislikes her if that were true. in the 100yq he is getting confident and realizing how he acts is only reminding her of being shut out in childhood and makes it his goal to become “good enough” for her and someone who can protect her, leading to him being more emotionally available with her.

they have different styles of loving each other but that doesn’t make them bad for each other. it is also not a secret that juvia fell first, but that doesn’t take away from gray’s apparent feelings. as for other things that antis tend to point out, it is a fictional cartoon with very different humor than we’re used to. even most animes i’ve seen have a different form of comedy. this type of comedy is also used a LOT throughout fairy tail, not just with gray and juvia. this provides reason for her behaving this way and is honestly easier to brush it off. they push each other and are constantly bettering the other.

[patentedsun]

justifying every 100yq natsu characterisation inaccuracy as accidental typos Lucy made when rewriting the book

[patentedsun]

I'm beating a dead horse but it must be said again... they've massacred my boy for real... natsu deciding lucy would make a good teammate because she's "kinda weird but kind", natsu comforting her that her past doesn't matter and that she's fairy tail's Lucy no matter what, natsu rushing to find her after she went to confront her father because he was worried she left for good, natsu uprooting an entire fucking tree because she was sick and couldn't see the cherry blossoms, natsu travelling from town to town trying to replace her book that he accidentally burnt, natsu consistently rooting for her abilities, natsu quietly comforting her after her father's passing, natsu keeping memorabilia of all their jobs together, natsu comforting her after her loss in GMG, natsu comforting future lucy and believing her without hesitation, natsu showing her the starry skies because she mentioned in passing that she wanted to see it, natsu comforting her at the end of phoenix priestess,natsu losing his shit at the thought of her dying (as opposed to 100yq natsu who didn't gaf that he himself was the one who physically hurt her...)

ARGHHH..... he's supposed to be GOOD to her he's supposed to CARE about her he's supposed to have enough emotional intelligence to know what to say and what not to say during Serious Moments...

also minor gripe but 100yq also sorely lacks them just chilling and hanging out together unlike the OG show, and you don't even get the vibe that they're ride or die besties anymore... also NOT minor gripe but nalu was never about fanservice in the OG show...

ALSOO 100yq has a weird imbalance where it feels like Lucy Likes him, and Natsu genuinely couldn't give less of a shit. Whereas by the end of the original series, you got a sense that they equally Liked each other, just that they had vastly different ways of showing it.

the sad reality of 100yq natsu is that no matter how hiro decides to inevitably make nalu canon, it isnt going to make sense bcs current natsu is far too stupid to be in a mature relationship. sure og show natsu was stupid but he knew when to turn it off and be smart, but current natsu has literally 0 brain cells and never takes anything seriously. my poor boy what has ur creator done to u, pls can we have my beloved og show natsu back.