#anti movie hermione
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the-phoenix-heart · 6 months ago
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okay so I've been spending a lot of time thinking about Harry Potter recently and trolling the wiki for reasons and I have the weirdest observation about the series.
What is JKR's deal with Ravenclaw women?
I mean consider our main Ravenclaw girls: Luna Lovegood and Cho Chang (and Marietta Edgecombe). Luna in the movies is portrayed as whimsically queer, and that's not inaccurate to the books, but in the books she is more often a punchline than anything. She's a parody of the Ravenclaw ideals of creativity and openminded-ness to the point where she believes crazy conspiracy theories.
But she's our most positively portrayed Ravenclaw. Which is more than I can say for Cho and Marietta. Cho is portrayed as a pitiable character, someone so emotional and loyal that she is sympathetic, but the narrative portrays her overemotional nature and loyalty as bad traits. She's so emotional she'll blow up over perceived threats, and dwells on trauma, and it makes her a drag to talk to. And her loyalty is a bad thing because she chooses to be loyal to Marietta. Marietta is ESPECIALLY treated awfully. Marietta is scared for her mother's job that she rats out the DA and for her choice she is forever branded a traitor at 16, and this is completely justifiable. Like, if Hermione can jinx a paper to disfigure a person's face than couldn't she just jinx the paper to make it physically impossible to reveal the DA, except perhaps under the influence of veritaserum? Like the film did? But no, Hermione is instead more preoccupied with punishing than preventing (an insane thing for me to say, I'm sorry Hermione it's not your fault that your author is kinda insane about women).
(And just as a sidebar but Marietta is also given an illustration that makes it clear she was kinda ugly before the pimples which is so rude, but also so like JKR.)
Then you have very minor characters like Padma who are just generally portrayed as kinda bitchy. Padma gets off better than her sister in terms of being treated as bitchy, but it seems like Padma always carries the stigma of being disappointed by Ron at the Yule Ball.
But this goes back even FURTHER, to the oldest Ravenclaw student we are introduced to, Helena Ravenclaw.
In the films, again, Helena's scene with Harry is haunting. She's treated with respect and tragedy (almost all of the dialogue in the film is original). But in the books, yes we actually get her tragic backstory, but she is portrayed as haughty, vain, and prideful.
You can also add in Trelawney there as a Ravenclaw who is treated like a joke (crazy* and alcoholic).
And consider that the two women we know were almost in Ravenclaw, Hermione and McGonagall, end up going to Gryffindor and are portrayed as better off for it.
And like there is more to explore here. The four Ravenclaw men we really get to know are Filius, Ollivander, Xenophilius, and Lockhart. Xenpohilius is a conspiracy theorist (and a death eater sympathizer I just know it) and Lockhart is a buffoon who only really upholds the Ravenclaw wit and is skilled at memory charms.
(There's this crazy part of the Ravenclaw wiki page that actually compares Lockhart to Cho Chang because they both wanted to be popular. WHAT.)
Meanwhile you have Ollivander who is a positive Ravenclaw character, but is also barely in the books and Filius Flitwick. And Filius is a positive character but it is also canon that the Sorting Hat almost put him in Gryffindor, which seems like a pointed attempt to make it clear he's better than most Ravenclaws. Because he's got something of a Gryffindor edge to him.
I don't really know what the whole point of me going on this rant was about, other than just to point out that JKR is weird about Ravenclaws and the women in general. Almost all of them aren't allowed to actually uphold the actual values of their house: Wisdom, Intelligence, Learning. The only traits they ever really uphold is Wit if they are popular and Creativity, which seems to be a nice way of saying they're crazy conspiracy theorists. The only characters that really get anything good out of the house are Minerva and Hermione, and them being hatstalls is only meant to emphasize their intelligence in comparison to their Gryffindor peers. Otherwise Ravenclaw seems to just be JKR's go to bitchy/we need a villain who isn't Slytherin house.
*When I say "crazy" in this post I am referring to how JKR treats the characters. Babbling, loony, conspiratorial, and not in their right minds.
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babypizzaface · 6 days ago
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Real hermione dance. Not made up by movies
“Come and dance,” Ron added abruptly to Hermione.
She looked taken aback, but pleased too, and got up. They vanished together into the growing throng on the dance floor.
“Ah, they are together now?” asked Krum, momentarily distracted.
“Er— sort of,” said Harry.
•Deathly Hallows
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albi-bumblebee · 1 month ago
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A lot of criticism of movie Hermione is weird because they like objectively realize that her character and personality is completely different and that’s not a good thing but are then like “it’s the stupid Strong Female Characters thing Hollywood loves(this criticism was more common a few years ago but still)” or “this is because of feminism.” Lmao, you really think that it’s somehow “feminist” or showing some “bias towards women” for the main female character in a series to have her personality neutered and made more palatable to make her more likable to the masses. meanwhile a major male characters get to bully his students but still be acknowledged as being complex but she isn’t allowed be stubborn or an asshole or not always right all the time. Ok. Sure bestie.
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thetimelordbatgirl · 5 months ago
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So wait, if they determined to be accurate to the books in the Harry Potter reboot...does that include the 'its fine to enslave Elf's they fine with it!' bullshit plot??? Because if they cast anyone of color for Hermione....
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velvet4510 · 1 day ago
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misty-memories09 · 24 days ago
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Just Ow. Seriously Ow. I don't know about you but I really can't feel the love in the air tonight.
I love romione, I really do. But—
Ron, who yelped and covered his face with his hands, but the birds attacked, pecking and clawing at every bit of flesh they could reach.
“Gerremoffme!” he yelled, but with one last look of vindictive fury, Hermione wrenched open the door and disappeared through it.
just read these paragraphs, it's not a harmless thing she does, the birds attack Ron — they hurt him. And honestly, this is when she has a crush on him... Hermione really pisses me off in this scene because what kind of a person attacks their crushes with a bird when they start going out with someone else?
Ron was genuinely having a good time with Lavender, and obviously this is an act of jealously and really, I don't get it. At all. I don't get how Hermione goes ahead and blames Ron for not returning her feelings and not realising that he does, infact, not owe her feelings. It's even worse when you think about it like this — 1) she openly kisses Krum, 2) she writes to Krum infront of Ron but now that Ron's the one having fun and spending time with someone else she's mad.
What's worse is Ron was expecting something like this, because this is the line we get before hermione attacks him with the birds —
‘Harry glanced at Ron, who was looking relieved that nothing worse had happened.’
Reading this scene more and more is now putting me in a world of hurt, I can actually feel the pain down my damn spine.
And the fact the chapter ends with Harry hearing Hermione sob...no Ron's pain can't be addressed, we can't see how Ron's state was after getting freed from the birds. also adding that line as closing was a choice. A choice that icks me out because it really is giving “hurting you hurts me more” vibes and I'm not here for it.
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wafflinglumos · 4 months ago
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Romione height difference and eye contact send tweet
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feralboo-the-weirdo · 1 year ago
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BARBIE SPOILERS. if you have not seen it and you don't want spoilers, just skip over this. Unless you would like some prior warning for it. :)
This is honestly the only summery of the Barbie movie I can give without going into a giant rant:
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Spoiler: Yes. They pushed both. I just couldn't get the other meme to work.
dang, I have a feeling this is going to garner quite a bit of hate, but as a disclaimer before I go into what I will try to keep a tiny rant-- I understand there are people who did like it and I want to like it, because it's you know, it's Barbie and the old movies were wonderful, but... the movie made itself irredeemable to me.
Yes, it was satire, but it was honestly hard to tell what was satire and what they proclaimed was truth. I hated it. Every moment I spent in the theater I wanted to leave it.
why was how they broke the brainwashing reminding women how mistreated they are? Like. HOW. DOES. THAT. FIX. ANYTHING? was it satisfying for a bit? admittedly yes, the initial rant the mom gave was satisfying.... and then they dragged out the bit and it was just like "what on earth is this?" why is this what unbrainwashes them?
Also, I know people are going to get onto the "well they were white so that explains everything" No. no it does not.
Also everything they brought up they did not go deep into. like Ken being hurt by the Patriarchy too. they spent about five minutes (if that) on it and then were like "yay! problem solved, it's barbie land again." Also mental health. Was handled VERY poorly. it's not a joke. as someone who deals with mental health struggles on the daily I did not appreciate how they presented it.
The "only baby dolls" thing. This should not have made me hate this movie so much because it's (MAYBE???) satire. But still. They have not been the only doll to exist ever.
This movie hated both genders equally but tried to make it seem like they loved women.
Also. I hated the extremes they went to in the real world. Not every man is Evil. there are some that definitely should not be allowed around women or other people yes, but not all of them are evil. And not all women are good either.
No one, the barbie movie: women are so mistreated, woah is us!
Also the barbie movie: eck! we're so powerful we can't stand it!
But mostly, I just hated it because I was promised a happy movie of Barbie having a midlife crisis and Ken coming along for the ride and instead it was like Tik tok. in movie form.
This movie did not make me feel anymore comfortable with my gender. if anything it made me feel worse. I left the theater feeling like I should have been empowered, but I just felt gross. Overall, this is probably the last post I will ever make for this movie because I want it to fade into the background and be ignored. The worst insult I could give this movie is ignoring it's existence entirely.
Does anyone else miss when movies just had strong CHARACTERS instead of it being a strong gender? like it wasn't "LOOK A FEMALE WHO IS A CHARACTER!!!" and "oh, a guy character, gross." Why does it have to be so extreme? Like I appreciate there are more female protagonists out there but I also miss when they weren't all hot headed, arrogant, jerks, and when they were FEMININE. like. what. is wrong. with. being soft??? also I miss smart male protagonists. and male protagonists in general who were good characters not comic relief. (unrelated, but semi related note: I will never forgive the Harry Potter Movies for what they did to Ron to make Hermione smart. Ron is SMART TOO. My boy deserved better!)Like there was a while there where women and men both had equal roles in stories and they were good because they were good characters and now... it's just politics. and I'm sick of it.
I don't know what Barbie was supposed to be but it was not what I wanted to see when I went to see it. I had low expectations, but somehow, it failed them. failed them hard. Honestly, I don't know how anyone likes it, and I'm still to angry at it to look for reasons why people did. Maybe in a few years after my anger at what this movie was actually about subsides.
In conclusion, I finally remembered why I don't go see movies anymore. I want a story, not a message. Barbie provided a message. a very dark undertone that hid under "discover yourself and your role in the world :)"
P.S. If you liked Barbie and wish to tear me to shreds, please remember I was not the target audience, I did not "get it" as those in the target audience did.
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neverenoughmarauders · 8 months ago
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Was I the only one to be deeply disappointed when the GOF movie came out and Beauxbatons Academy of Magic was an all girl school? It was bad enough that the worst champion (performance/point wise) was a woman, now they had to make it so that she wasn’t even the best at a mixed school - no she only ever beat a bunch of girls. Merlin forbid she was going to be better than a man …
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dramioneasks · 8 months ago
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By Any Other Name - LibrarishLizzie - E, WIP - Hermione could smell the spice of his cologne, something slightly woodsy and old… like parchment from the restricted section of the Hogwarts library. The scent oddly suited him and his antiquated existence in this formal, strict sector of the Wizarding World. She shook her head slightly as if to remove the smell from her brain and returned to the matter at hand. “Would people truly believe you’re courting me? A muggle born?” Draco’s gaze snapped to Hermione’s face intensely, searching it. “I will make them believe,” he said with such conviction that Hermione found it impossible to argue. “How do you plan to do that?” Hermione asked, annoyed to find her voice sounded quite breathless. “Leave that to me,” Draco said, a smirk taking over his face that Hermione had never seen at Hogwarts; it was charming and dangerous at the same time. A flush crawled up her neck and sat beneath the dense twist of curls at the nape of her neck. [A Regency AU/Bridgerton-inspired fake dating Dramione romance peppered with Romeo + Juliet references.
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wardrobeoftime · 1 year ago
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can you make a collage of the emma watson prom dress in harry potter goblet of fire?
I have to think about this. I don't want to support a TERF by promoting a franchise she directly profits from and who puts that money to use by funding the discrimination of the trans community. She says she is supporting women with that but in my opinion she is putting all of us, whether cis or trans, female, male or non-binary, even in more danger than we already face from the partiarchal society around us.
However, I am aware that my impact is probably only very, very small and that Emma Watson herself spoke out against the author's believes. And that even for many trans people, Harry Potter used to be or still is a fantasy world they can find refuge in. I really need to think about it.
If I have any trans followers here, please tell me your opinion as this impacts you even more than me and I would like to hear from you.
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evilghoblin · 2 years ago
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JK ROWLING PLAGIARISM
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I remember this case and thinkin it was stupid. I saw post about this in tumblr years and years ago (2013?).
This aithor has accused rowling of plagiarism ages ago. This book came out 1974. There was a movie about this in 1986. A tv series in 1998-2001.
First Harry potter was published 1997.
Take a look at these and judge for yourself. To me there is awful lot of similarities
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babypizzaface · 2 months ago
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Ron-I would die for her- Weasley
“Take these prisoners down to the cellar, Greyback.”
“Wait,” said Bellatrix sharply.
“All except. . . . except for the Mudblood.” Greyback gave a grunt of pleasure.
“No!” shouted Ron. “You can have me, keep me!”
Bellatrix hit him across the face: the blow echoed around the room.
“If she dies under questioning, I’ll take you next,” she said.
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casiavium · 2 years ago
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I love the song O Children by Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds and yes I know it from Deathly Hallows part one but outside of that it's such a good song. It's about bittersweet death and Orpheus and Eurydice and the song just. Songs so good
And I WILL fight any self righteous ex Harry Potter fan that tries to pull some SHIT that it's about the Holocaust (and therefore should not have been used in the movie which I don't care about the artisy agreed to it so. Whatever. He got paid) IT'S FUCKING NOT you DUMB PIECE OF SHIT WITH NO MEDIA LITERACY show me a source that says this that's not some Harry Potter fan's Tumblr post from 2011. Show me it. Show me an interview with the artist. Show me exactly why you think it's about the Holocaust. Oh, trains leading to death? Because Harry Potter is a thinly veiled and pathetic attempt at WWII parallels? (and if we're going by that do you have a deathly hallows tattoo because if you're so 1:1 about this. you do know the deathly hallows is her fucking. symbolic equivalent to you-know-what. Oh that's offensive? YOU DON'T THINK???)
Because HAVE YOU WVER HEARD OF POETIC IMAGERY IN YOUR DAMN LIFE how could you have ever called yourself a Harry Potter fan without the basic ability to understand sometimes things are not LITERAL. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
#tw harry potter#very upset about how harry potter fans treat this song#someone said it's weird people play it at their wedding (fair they only do it because harry and Hermione danced to it) but thwir reasoning#was that it's about the Holocaust. and when I asked can you cite a source for this other than a fan post from when the movie came out#because this article interview by the actual artist said it's semi-orphean in symbolism#and they went well it says the word gulag so you shouldn't anyway. like. bitch. What The Actual Fuck#do you get upset over the muppets sending kermit to the gulag. did you get your vengance on harry potter adults by saying this song is Bad#fuck you#anyway once again ex Harry Potter fan feelings have made me SCREAM and CRY about the damage this series has done#still upset about telling some hp fan friends about the way rowling wrote the deathly hallows to be the damn. n@zi symbol like literally#(normal symbol for peace-> co opted by supremacist. lovegood wears it because of the 'original meaning' and krum is ready to FIGHT him#because Grindelwald used it before killing a bunch of people including his family. you can't say the only jewish wizard joining him is#anti-Semitic because they paint him as wizard hi ler and then say but but but it's offensive to say the deathly hallows is that🥺 because#it's so popular I liked it 😭#i lost my train of thought#anyway told my friends this and they were like. hm. no. it's offensive to say that. and I was like OH YOU'RE SO. CLOSE. SO SO CLOSE#YES it's offensive SHE'S THE ONE THAT DID IT GOD POINTING IT OUT ISN'T. ISN'T MY FAULT#they're so haha fuck jk! and then this bitch is almost in tears because a club member is uncomfortable about Hogwarts legacy and she's like#but 🥺 I play it 🥺 are you uncomfortable with me🥺 i have a friend you don't know him he said it's okay🥺🥺#so glad I never have to deal with those people again. I thought I could help because we DID have the girl who was my friend who needed#someone to speak for her because she was busy and couldn't come to meetings all the time and I. ahhhhhh#fuck harry potter. fuck harry potter fuck Harry Potter FUCK HARRY POTTER#rant
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ronherm · 2 years ago
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I will never tire of saying that Steve Kloves is a born Ron Weasley hater. It's just a deleted scene and if I don't add it for real it's because I'm sure someone must have said to him; "Hey man, don't you think you've already ridiculed and bashed the Ron Weasley character so much in all the movies, making up scenes, stealing Ron's lines to give to others.
And JKR who supposedly has a strong character let a screenwriter do whatever he wants.
I will never understand JKR, making a character that is one of the main characters but never knew how to love and protect on the big screen or giving interviews. Writers are jealous of the characters they create, but she completely abandoned him during all the filming of HP.
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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1 - deleted scene
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velvet4510 · 9 days ago
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