#anti mha stans

[mikeellee]

I recently saw a comic art of Izuku winning a place on a podium while Uraraka and Bakugou kiss in the background, and his distraught face at noticing them kissing as well as him purposely spraying champagne in his eyes the joke... I hate it here.

Cutting out the artist, no hate to them, but it sums up the fandoms awful tendency to make Izuku's pain - namely being cucked in this incidence - as a joke.

Hi @doodlegirl1998

Shocked how this never happened in canon and I'm serious considering how hoei dislike izu and loves to dunk on him...

And sure the op must have meant as a joke or maybe ships kachako, ship and let ship, but as a ship what a cruel thing to link your ship.

"I like them together bc they cucko this innocent character"

But yeah you are right...the fandom detest Izu and is all thanks to the framing. Izu is hated in and outside the story and....the funniest part, in a dark way, is how he is not an evil person ...he did nothing to warrant such hate.

(btw, I ship shigadeku more bc, with all the flaws and underveloped writing, got to admit, in a bizarre way, shig was one of the rare people who were happy to see Izu, unlike Ochako)

Actually....I want to propose a challange to anyone who saw this image and is upset.

Let's do a sequel where Izu kisses Mei, Melissa, Shig or even Rudy as response to Ochako.

Bc when we take the "hahahaha he is being cucko" jokes. Ochako has nothing with BK, nor toga.

So let her be alone and miserable (she throw a good friendship away, it's canon) as it was her request. "I want to focus on my career, can't be seen with Izu"

Ok bitch, let's draw Izu thriving with Mei, Melissa (I know is too much to ask for Shig here but I ship them) while she is alone, crying for a killer who...would kill her again.

(btw, the whole cucko thing is a feeling that hover Izu, in canon, two times now in canon)

So...fandom, izu haters. Are you all happy? Are you projecting? Bc waste time to make those jokes is just...sad. I don't think you guys have a happy life and honest...feel a bit bad for y'all.

[sapphic-agent]

In light of the last ask I got, it's so interesting that now Izuku is getting hate. Because when he was a blank prop who worshipped Bakugou at every turn, that was fine. When he didn't show a hint of malice against Bakugou, that was defended as him just not holding a grudge. But now that he's exercising agency against his abuser as a conscious adult who's (presumably) had time to come to terms with his trauma, y'all are mad?

Bakugou stans and BakuDeku shippers never cared about Izuku. They only cared about how he could make Bakugou look better. Now that he isn't doing that anymore, he's being thrown out like garbage

[moodyvoid]

the amount of ppl bashing me on twt bcs i said endeavor finally apologized... i keep getting "what else do you want him to do?? he knows what he did is wrong, and he feels bad! that's why you apologize!"

it took 20+ years for an apology...

when everyone is severely hurt...

his eldest is dying...

and he didn't get what he wanted...

that man can fucking die and let rei and the kids live peacefully without him. i do not care.

You can’t find a single Endeavor criticism post over there without someone being like “but he said he was sorry and he feels bad now” “also you only feel this way bc you wanna fuck dabi” “also also the league are murderers” 😢😢😢

Me wanting to hop on Dabi’s dick and me disliking Endeavor can be mutually exclusive. I disliked him from the moment he was on screen, before I even knew Dabi existed 😤

And yes. The league are murderers. I’m not shocked when people hate them. Still somehow, Endeavor stans are shocked when people hate their favorite abuser.

[khonaker]

MHA spoilers Final chapter

I’m starting to wish Shigaraki finished him off too at this point. Ungrateful, miserable dick.

[bibibbon]

RIP League of Villains, you were dead on arrival.

Listen, I’m not against humanizing villains but some people in the MHA fandom act like the LOV did no wrong and were only thinking about society.

Like.. did we watch the same show? The LOV stated multiple times that they basically wanted anarchy.

*Describes Shigaraki’s atrocities that fucked up their lives* “B-But he liked video games 🥺”

Good for him, HE STILL KILLED PEOPLE AND ONE OF THEM WAS A CHILD!

I honestly wish that people would address the league’s hypocrisy because it’s a genuinely interesting idea, I plan on tackling it in my fic.

But then again, whenever characters do address the league’s hypocrisy/rightfully doesn’t take shit, they get crucified.

(Aside from Enji and Overhaul, who deserve the shit beat out of them)

Hi @palesweetscherryblossom 👋

I love the leauge and the potential they had and Iam also not against humanising them but little of them actually deserve it would get a proper redemption.

A lot of people seem to forget that toga was already introduced as a serial killer (she killed 6 people and performed blood letting and you can go as far as cannibalism on them)

Or the fact that Dabi only cared about bringing down enji and never actually spoke up about the kids that died in Dr Garaki's hospital.

Or how shigaraki somehow knew all along that afo was manipulating him and done nothing but played into his games. Shigaraki also never proves himself as a leader or worthy of redemption in canon.

Or stain who went around killing heroes left and right. The same with muscular.

Or moonfish who was a cannibal

Oh or maybe compress who I still have no idea why he is evil to be honest or i just forgot.

They all done bad things which is why they are considered criminals while they could be humanised like toga, Dabi, shigaraki and spinner that doesn't actually excuse their actions. The leagues backstory is supposed to give us a reason or a look as into why they became the people they did and how society failed them but it's NOT supposed to justify or make their actions seem ok.

Also the hypocrisy that the leauge members have is actually interesting and could be explored as a character trait that they learn to develop out of or keep with them and it becomes an integral part of their character.

YOU CAN BE A VICTIM AND DO BAD THINGS. A Villain CAN BE A VICTIM AND DO BAD THINGS. THE TWO CAN COEXIST

I simply hate it when people can only look at the leauge as just victims who were completely justified and done nothing wrong when in reality they aren't!!

Now there are characters that I wouldn't give a redemption to like Dr garaki, AFO, overhaul, Enji and the comission but the other characters have a chance at being humanised or getting a meaningful redemption or ending

[ttoya]

That old familiar body ache The snaps from the same little breaks in my soul I know when it's time to go

[jacksonseymour13]

Dabi and Rei are the worst characters in MHA.

Dabi wants to kill his family for ENDEAVORS actions and fell off after his reveal. His annoying stans gaslight anybody that doesn't like him or see him as God's walking gift.

Rei had a "mental breakdown" and viciously burned Shoto because his fucking hair was red? Stupidest reason ever. Go burn Endeavor not your own child you stupid idiot.

I'm really tired of this fandom's blind loyalty to poorly written characters that have no redeeming qualities but attack the only interesting character in a show that develops nobody(Hawks for killing Twice and Endeavor for abusing his family 2 decades ago) get over it

[v0id-clawz]

??? I've watched almost all of the seasons that are available to me and his behaviour didn't change ONCE, especially not in seasons two

[lacedteatime]

Bakugou isn't fun to hate

I usually like it when a piece of media has a character I hate. However, it isn't a good experience with MHA. Unlike the other terrible characters we see elsewhere, the narrative in MHA presents Bakugou as a likeable character, which makes hating him feel bitter.

The real issue, though, is that he is somehow NUMBER ONE on the popularity charts. I wouldn't feel nearly as much hatred towards him if the fandom treated him like they do Endeavor and Mineta.

It causes a lot of problems when trying to consume content about this anime and manga, which I somehow still like. Though that's less of an issue -- I'm already used to having not that much content to consume for a fandom, since I'm in some fairly niche ones. Most of my problem with it is constantly seeing how much people find his actions as acceptable and even endearing.

Look. I get that a lot of people with anger issues can find his character cathartic, living vicariously through his ability to express himself without getting punished for it. However, there are so many better characters to get that through, ones that don't treat other people like they don't matter, ones where the narrative doesn't excuse everything he does by telling the readers that it's "just who he is."

There are rare moments where he is fun to hate, and those are when I can consume content by people who also hate him.

[villains-support-group]

I’m sorry I just can’t hide it. I HATE THIS MAN. I HATE HIS UGLY AHH FACE. IDC IF HE HAD CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING I HATE HIM I HATE HIM SO MUCH. AND YALL CAN ARGUE WITH ME AND LIKE HIM BUT IDC HE PISSES ME OFF SO BAD. (-🎤🎀, btw user box made by me!)

[doodlegirl1998]

The funniest thing a Bakugou stan has ever commented on one of my fics is that Bakugou respects his elders.

Mf, in what universe?!

Hi @sapphic-agent 👋

Bakugou Stans be truly making up their own story around thier precious Boom-Boom Bastard and claiming it as canon, aren't they? 🤣😂🤣

It's like these Stans don't actually read the story and instead see only what they wish to.

Meanwhile, live footage of me trying to find a scene Bakugou has any respect for anyone, let alone an elder.

[mikeellee]

MHA: the MC and the main villain are always wrong and sidelined

Hi, so I mentioned before how everyone always proves Izuku and Shig wrong...characters like AFO and BK belittle, abuse, and hurt Izu and Shig and...are right about them. Shig is a loser who did nothing (things fall on his lap, no questions)

I hope I can put my idea here, basically...every character says smth negative about Izuku and Shigaraki, which is a parallel in itself.

Dr. Evil

AFO.

Mirio

Overhaul

Redestro

Said how Shig is a loser (Dr. Evil was really on his face) and ....Shig doesn´t react.

Izuku

Bk

Aldera

Aizawa

Hound Dog

A1

Izuku defeated Overhaul, who is way above BK, and guess what? He is not allowed to win against his abuser. He doesn´t change...He still thinks he is useless... He is the odd duck.

Shig is confident yes (a nice contrast with Izu ...if only was written by someone who doesn´t detest Izu and Shig) but is not smart, has no agency or thinks about his actions...He doesn´t realize how HE IS THE NPC of AFO.

What´s the point here? I don´t know at this point, is not my words that will change villain stans on their views on both characters...its just how in the end Shig and Izu have such insane amouth of parallels. And the story ends with them having 0 relationship.

Not as brothers

Not as friend

Not as lover

They are strangers...and I can admit that.

As I can say, again, they have insane amount of parallels.

[sapphic-agent]

Bakugou stans who hate Endeavor and Endeavor stans who hate Bakugou make me laugh.

Because when you get down to it, they both benefit from the same things: in-universe privilege, narrative advantages, and plot manipulation. Their arcs enable each other in a way, they're both abusers being given more exposure and grace than their victims. They're both constantly being propped and accepted by the other characters despite being horrible people.

Criticizing one and not the other is obtuse. They're cut from the same exact cloth, the issues with their characters are nearly identical. And the focus of both their characters contribute to the overarching problem of MHA; not only pandering to abusers but pandering to those born privileged and who knowingly abused that privilege. And neither had to face actual repercussions without being protected by the author.

The only difference between them is in the literal sense; Endeavor is a worse person morally while Bakugou is a worse character narratively.

They both still suck ass

[moodyvoid]

Bnha can’t end until we get a panel of Rei and all the kids in a circle kicking the shit out of endeavor. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[plumsaffron]

Bro, the MHA fandom is looking more stable than the ML fandom after looking at the TVTropes fanwork section… MHA went from the most toxic community to rather chill these days thank god.

At least I can give props to the MHA folks for being genuinely and authentically creative despite there being a shite ton of fanfiction on AO3. I mean at least they try to keep things canon accurate even in the many, many different AUs.

Yes there are fan plots where certain characters and/or organizations get a hefty dose of karma. But at least they kinda deserved it for literal bullying/harassment to outright be terrible at their jobs! Not over minor issues! Hey, I can excuse that because some of those characters hit real hard to the fans who had gone through legitimate grievances with a family member, authority figure or peer. Have you seen how much the descriptions and emotions can get? How realistic the fanworks can get in terms of character relationships and development?

ML bitches do be over exaggerating on their “supposedly” terrible lives through bad writing. “Researching canon? What is that? I’m writing vicariously through all the shitty things I went through from my life using this show where things didn’t happen in the show!”

There’s no comparison, ML angst is heavily exaggerated, fake and not as authentic compared to MHA angst. Because it’s not that canon accurate yet the naive newcomers get blinded by the lying rats and subconsciously become their sheep.

Even the commonly accepted Fanon versions of said main/secondary characters are way more bearable than any of the canon & Fanon ML characters. Bc some of the current MHA fans tend to keep things grounded and not spiral outta control like the miracucunts.

Heck, despite the exaggerated scenarios where Danny Fenton/Phantom is supposedly abused by his bullies to even tortured by the villains… Even that sounds much more believable than the plot of Marinette “supposedly” having a bad life!

I do apologize if this sounds mean but there’s a problem when an awful character like Marinette didn’t go through that much. Yet her stans decided to exaggerate shit by claiming she was mistreated by the teacher (naive not intentionally malicious) and even classmates, causing a Mandela effect online. All because they hate Lila/Iris/Bianca from day 1 and decided to take that frustration out on everyone else.

For shame to the toxic ML community. Cleansing themselves is too much work, they rather stay in the sewers or sewage. The outside world is too much.

If other fandoms can show they can be chill and not go out of control or calm down, why can’t the Miracacursed Fandom uncursify itself? It’s not even that hard.

Exaggeration. I suppose they want to be Marinette so badly that they became the Miracumites or Marimites. They get highly upsette when anything disrupts their or her interests. The only canon in minds of these Miraculous Leechy Bitches is usually Marinette’s POV for their ideas for her.

Everything that they sought being so adamant with their foamacy upon characters actions they take extreme pleasure in disliking or shaming or mocking, starts falling apart as they betray themselves.

Being ringers and jumping through many to loops to try justifying why it’s only good (or should so much feel pity) whenever The True Protagonist does it.

Ultimate Exaggerators, The Most Desperate Justifiers. Unfortunately highly successful at their game of deceit they done to many newcomers or naive ones.

That reminds me, I was Yesterday told by someone in a server I’m in that Miraculous fans think Adrien is cheating on the spying Marinette, from that S6 trailer clip of him jogging with that girl with a prosthetic limb.

Cuckclusion Jumping Jizzsocks *SIGHS*

Teacher Mistreatment Exaggeration. Man... Marinette fricken lucky with her so self proclaimed liking of being in school and ditching it for weeks (while her home is a block away from school). And if I remember from what I heard from another blog talking of Marinette correctly, she only got lightly punished by her parents when they found out. Also lol cause it’s almost like they didn’t know jerks such as themselves are real. What are they yapping over? So many characters or viewers will instantly crawl back to her episode(s) later usually?

Ah yes their Lila since day obsession. They want to drag down all else so Lila can be finished. Excellent job at thinking the most pointless way possible.

Meanwhile Gabriel Nathalie Tomoe Marinette and Future Bunnyx and Future Bunnyx(s) Bob Roth & Andre can proceed playing Hopscotch on Adrien, Nooroo, and the world’s face, and these stanatic clowns would turn a blind eye to it.

[bibibbon]

me: they’re my baby girls!!

the ‘baby girls’ list of crimes:

General Crimes

Terrorism, Stalking, Kidnapping, Mass murder, Vandalism, Mutilation, Torture, Unethical experimentation, Jailbreaking, Theft, Propaganda, Arson, Blackmail, Conspiracy, Torture, Psychological abuse, Incrimination, Sabotage, Assault & Battery, Mass destruction, Grave robbing, Enslavement, Impersonation, Abuse of power, Corruption

Member Specific Crimes

Shigaraki: Mass property damage, Terrorism, Assault & Battery, Kidnapping, Torture, Theft, Mutilation, Conspiracy, Vandalism, Sabotage, Familicide, Manslaughter, Animal cruelty, False imprisonment, Psychological abuse

Dabi: Attempted familicide, Torture, Arson, Psychological abuse, Destruction of property, Kidnapping, Terrorism, Vandalism, Incrimination, Public endangerment, Conspiracy, Blackmail, Stalking

Himiko: Serial Murder, Animal cruelty, Kidnapping, Identity theft, Burglary, Stalking, Assault, Mutilation, Fraud, Terrorism, Possibly cannibalism

Mr. Compress: Conspiracy, Kidnapping, Mutilation, Terrorism, Theft, Murder, Stalking, Vandalism, Burglary

Spinner: Kidnapping, Assault, Terrorism

Twice: Terrorism, Murder, Theft, Kidnapping

they were just feeling silly ok it’s no biggie

You know what Iam much more impressed that you managed to list out all of their crimes in general and specifically.

Yikes thats a long list but I do see some of the league members being able to receive a redemption or at least face a better ending than the one canon gave them.

At the end even though they did all of this I still like their characters however I do hate when people don't acknowledge these actions and babyify them only focusing on them as victims and not giving them the complexity they deserve to have.

Now that I think about it Iam quite surprised that twices list of personal crimes is so low. It makes me remember when @doodlegirl1998 was talking about how he is probably the most redeemable one in there and that the story would benefit much more if he and toga narratively switched roles