#anti itachi fandom

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Naruto Fans when they see Sasuke suffer because he saw his clan be murdered for over 100 Hours: WAH FUCKING WAH! STOP FUCKING CRYING YOU EMO BITCH!

Naruto Fans when a character is a genocidal monster that ruined Sasuke's life: Baby. He is a hero.

[naruto-general-opinions]

[saschuv]

Some of my thoughts on Naruto as a (kinda) intro post!

Hyperfixating on Naruto rn and wanted to try write some thoughts down. It’ll become obvious very fast that I love sasuke and believe he deserves that absolute world and will defend him until my last breath thank you 🫶

I hate the narrative of Naruto for how it treated sasuke and the Naruto ending being literllay pro-konoha and sasuke is convinced he has to “repent”?? Like what’s he repenting for? Being a victim?

Imagine growing up having witnessed the genocide of your family by the one you love the most, tortured having to watch it over 500,000 times and being told to hate and kill that person that you once loved…

I don’t understand Itachi fans who will say they don’t like sasuke for what he does and his mindset when its Itachi who manipulated and moulded him into what he is… like you don’t like his actions and that he’s the ‘villain’ (in the eyes of many fans) when itachi told him to pretty much do all this. E.g kill his closest friends (Naruto) and only focus on becoming stronger to kill him.

Sasuke had every right to attack Konoha, the overall shinobi system and those that tried to uphold it.

Disclaimer: Naruto is a show that I love and means a lot to me. I enjoy analysing characters and themes within shows so that’s what you’ll probably be seeing me do on here. I just have a problem with some of the things within the story such as certain characters and especially how the narrative portrays things. Just remember this is all fictional and it’s never that deep I just want to express my opinions if you disagree then just don’t interact with me.

[dranosh-haran-of-paleoworld]

why do you hate itachi so much?

Because he's one of the worst written characters in the entire manga bar, none. The guy is NOT a fucking hero, good guy or anything, he's a bad guy through and through.

This guy willingly betrayed his own people and family, selling them out to the government who wanted to destroy them all. He knew about Obito and that he was behind the 9-Tails attack but said nothing to anyone. He discriminated against his own people and slaughtered them all to the last child. He cast Tsukuyomi on his own parents and brutally murdered them, tortured his own little brother beyond imagine with one torture session putting Sasuke in a fucking coma, one he would've never gotten out of if it wasn't for that bitch Tsunade and that's the only good Tsunade did in the series. Itachi thought he was wiser and more noble than his own people, which was pure and utter arrogance. When brought back as an edo, he said that a 7-year-old Sasuke could've changed the clan. He called himself Itachi Uchiha of Konoha and that he specifically had no regrets he was a massive piece of shit in life and death.

None of his plans make any kind of fucking sense. He wanted to save Konoha from war even though the other villages wouldn't have attacked for their own reasons.

Kumo already had a treaty in place after the Hyuga Incident, and it was preoccupied with gathering and collecting jutsus as well as kidnapping kids with kekkei genkai and rare bloodline abilities.

Iwa felt threatened by Kumo's growing militarization, and as such, Ohnoki was busy hiring the Akatsuki to do jobs for him to counter Kumo.

Thanks to Obito controlling Yagura, Kiri was in a massive state of chaos and strife with the bloodline purges and the various defections.

Suna was already extremely weak to attack Konoha on its own, and that weakness was present even before Gaara was born, and it just got worse after his birth, with his murderous rampages that wiped out half of his village and that's why Suna hired Orochimaru and his Sound village for assistance in the Chunin Exams.

So Itachi saved Konoha from zero potential wars, especially when none of the other villages attacked after Obito's, Orochimaru's, and Pain's assaults in the series.

He practically sent Sasuke gift wrapped to Orochimaru or Danzo. He knew about Obito and Pain's plans and yet did nothing about them, which just screwed over Konoha immensely.

He was never a prodigy or anything, unlike Sasuke. His fights are just him using genjutsu on his opponents and overpowering them with it, which just childish and stupid. He pulled Susanoo, Mirror Yata, and the Tsoka Blade out of his ass.

That's not even getting into his fanbase and how morally bankrupt they are.

This fucker is all over the place and doesn't make sense. Dushman-e-jaan has posts that go into greater detail about how this guy doesn't make sense, and I recommend you read them as she does an infinitely better job at explaining my dislike for Itachi than I have.

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The more you think about Kotoamatsukami and what Itachi was readily willing to do, the more the argument that ‘'Itachi loved Sasuke more than the village'’ falls flat in every way.

[madaras-tits]

What a lot of people don't seem to put in their analysis of why they find a character unlikable, is their fandom. I think this is a clear mistake, because how people react towards a character can influence how you think about them too. My best example is Itachi.

He could've been an interesting character to me (I wouldn't like him still but yk) if the narrative and the fandom wasn't busy worshipping the ground he walks on and defending his literal genocide. Like atleast most of the obito fandom for example doesn't try to actually defend what he did, we're very aware of that and can like him despite all of this, while itachi fans can't accept his crimes, so they tell themselves that what he did was okay.

[anubisthe1]

Tried for the first time to listen to a podcast, so obviously, it had to be about Naruto to keep me interested.

Don't know how familiar you guys are about Naruto Reviewto, but those guys started in 2020 and are still going to these days. They were brilliant enough to come with the idea to review 2 or 3 episodes at a time, starting from the first episode of Naruto while one of them hadn't properly watched the show.

It is fun to comment on each episode with him there saying something that has the others biting their tongue to not spoil anything but just like everything else in this fandom this also was ruined for me because of the sasuke hate.

Sakura fans are annoying, and I wasn't necessarily bothered that they immediately said since episode one that they love her because every once in a while, they will also bring her down and mention how ridiculous she is. No, I had no problem here.

They would say stuff like "Oh poor sakura," "she is so smart," while on the same breath they turn around and look at sasuke and call him the classic "emo".

They said sasuke ruined the vibe and was pretty annoying each time he would jump in a fight without planning with the rest of the team. They would go on rants about how sasuke is just constantly trying to look cool and much, much more that I blocked out of my mind.

I can't watch the rest of the episodes now.

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"If you don't like this character, blame the author for their shitty writing"

I hate this specific argument so, so much, you have absolutely no idea. Alright, let's for some reason, dive in and allow this character to use "this defense", now what? No, really, now what? What are we supposed to do if we blame the author for everything "bad" the character does? Do we start to worship a fanon version of the same character that, by god, doesn't belong to us as the character is just a tool the author uses to tell a story? Do we completely rewrite it to fit our aesthetic tastes and moral compass as we believe to be a better writer or have a better grasp of reality than the OA despite their work being apparently so important to us that we love their character so much that we treat it as an independent being and not a fictional invent? Do we kiss the metaphorical ground that that character steps on for everything we do canonically like about it as they "did all of that" despite having the author against it as if those specific performances are somehow independent of the original writer's intentions?

What do we do then? Forgive the character as "those bad actions" were out of their control as they never had a choice on the matter while somehow the things they did that we do approve of get, somehow, highlighted as if that actually was their independent decision? If AO's writing is so shitty, why do you like the character in the first place? What compelled you to like a character of which you detest the writing? Why do you favour one specific character yet detest another one? Shouldn't you treat all characters equally if the problem isn't them but the "Author's shitty writing"?

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I love how the itachi's stans are alway the one that say shit like "Noooo how could you like Sasuke!? He's a crazy mass murderer!" like my good sir please truly gaze at the mirror and see the exact thing you're ctritisizing staring back at you

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I do not understand how people can see Sasuke being mentally tortured by his older brother twice for 72 hours, making him watch him kill the Uchiha, his aunts and uncles, his parents, mentally scaring him for years, telling him that he left him to live because he pitied him and nothing more, and after he woke up, he walked to the destroyed and ruined part of the village slowly and painfully as an annoying little piss emo baby that needs to be humbled.

They glorify the man that betrayed the Uchiha and told the higher ups about the coup, but they make a genocide survivor a villain.

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[obitoslover]

Most of Itachi fans genuinely scares me

Like, do you genuinely believe genocide can be the only solution to a rebellion (or anything in general)? Can't you analyse a story without the author's lens?

[slowlysointernet]

''Itachi chose to save the village''.

This is basically admitting that the Uchiha were seen as separate from the village. The lives of strangers were more valuable than his family's. Lol.

[madaras-tits]

*something interesting.*

also. any Correct Takes™️ that you have and want an excuse to share/talk more about? (not naruto/uchiha specific, but i know you have many Naruto Takes™️ so i'm ofc always happy to see more of that and/or anything else)

I have a lot to say about Naruto (evident by my past 1000 posts), but one thing that I never actually talked about was how much more likeable itachi would've been if there wasn't this whole plot twist that he "did it for konoha" and "is actschually the good guy".

It felt like kishimoto was trying to justify the massacre, which obviously doesn't sit right with me. Why did you have to make itachi a bootlicker? Itachi would've been much better if he stayed that insane fuck who murdered his entire clan for funsies??? Like imagine if he actually just did it because. He felt like it. Thought it would be funny.

If it stayed like this, it would've also called out the consequences of sending out children for war, a mere child wouldn't be able to take all that and go insane. Of course, "just for funsies" is also a bit strange, but we could've also gone down the road of "itachi hated his clan because konoha teached him that the Uchiha are scum and violence is a valid solution".

There's also of course the fandom's god awful perception of itachi, since everyone seems to see him as some misunderstood hero, which I also hate. But this also happens because this is how the narrative spins the story to be, and you really shouldn't expect dudebros to actually engage with their source material.

In other words, there's many ways to handle this, and I feel like all of them are better than "itachi was the good guy all along". I know this isn't as interesting as a lot of my other takes, but I'm thankful for the excuse to talk about this :)

[anubisthe1]

I could like itachi. Like a little.

Then i remember that itachi fan that has sasukes decapateted head tattoo on his body and i get reminded why i cant like itachi.

Its the ignorence in them that makes sure i can never look at a pic of itachi without wincing, cause i remember all the bullshit info they spread about him.