#anti hinata stans

[leportraitducadavre]

You know there’s a weird connection between the fandom’s perceived idea of “good writing” and their personal feelings about specific characters. “I like this character, therefore, they’re well written” and viceversa, “I dislike this character, therefore, they’re badly written” –I’ve seen this in many fandoms and with different characters, but there’s no fandom where this is more noticeable than in the “anti Sakura” portion of the audience.

Before we start, let me be clear on something: I don’t personally like Sakura, I don’t consider myself a fan of hers (or her stans, which are just as annoying as Hinata’s), nor I believe she’s the “heroine” of a story that has no room for a character with such status (I’ve said this before, Naruto is the hero and Sasuke is the antagonist -there’s no necessity nor space for anyone else as Sakura is merely the female character with most panel time, yet she doesn’t move the plot forward and she isn’t relevant to the development of other key characters, as most of them completely ignore her existence).

“Likeability” isn’t a determining factor when it comes to labelling a character “well” or “badly” written, such notion relies on subjective factors which makes it impossible to objectively determine the overall value of a character inside a story.

The most important factor to label a character “goodly written” has more to do with how well they represent their theological narrative. For instance, Danzo -who I genuinely despise, is amazingly written, as he spot on tackles the subject of extreme-nationalistic world view, while Itachi -on the other hand, is sort-of all over the place as he subscribes to Danzo’s ideology and defends it with the same actions, yet Kishimoto desperately wanted to keep him inside the “good guys” group, which ultimately failed and took down anything Itachi might have had going for him (besides other inconsistencies as he’s presented as a genius who made nothing but mistake after mistake). There’s a reason why the antagonists are often the ones with the best characterizations, as they aren’t tied to been “morally correct” or “likeable” in order to reflect their thematic plot, which is why the better characters in Naruto happen to be Uchiha (Sasuke, Obito, Madara).

Sakura has no weight inside the plot, as she is mostly used for support of either Naruto and (to a lesser extent) Sasuke, she stands narratively in the same spectrum as most “good” characters of the show, so she’s thematically not much more relevant than the rest of K-11; yet she’s given more depth than many other characters, as she’s a layered character of whom we see both her strengths and flaws, something we can’t say for other characters, such as Hinata.

In the Hyüga princess™’s case, her personality is mostly one dimensional as she is a thematic piece used to deepen Neji’s character. In case you haven’t noticed, she was constructed in opposition to him: She needs to be shy in order for Naruto to take pity on her when Neji insults her (as Neji is mostly arrogant and outspoken), she’s comically bad because Neji is a prodigy, she’s “a freak” (said by Naruto himself) because Neji isn't, she’s a slave owner because Neji is her slave, and so on –the only thing she has that wasn’t built in order to oppose her cousin was her infatuation with Naruto, something she makes a priority.

Everything we “know” about Hinata was mostly fandom-made, Hinata is shy and soft spoken, why is she considered “nice”? We never saw her worrying about anyone but Naruto: She was glad Kiba lost his match and offered Naruto the ointment to treat his wounds, she diminished her cousin’s trauma and endorsed the oppressive system of her clan, we never see her visiting Kiba after he returned from his mission to bring Sasuke back to Konoha (something we see Ino and Sakura do with their respective teammates, and while Hinata was recovering from Neji’s attack, she had enough strength to train and go see the Chünin Exams final stage, at no point is mentioned she was bed-ridden, as Sasuke had enough time to recover from Gaara’s attack before escaping the village), she thought about Naruto’s warm hand seconds after her cousin died and she was the only character not shown to be glad about Shikamaru being alive as we saw her pouting and thinking about how much she wanted to be beside Naruto. Furthermore, is there any scene in which she appears where she’s not thinking or talking about Naruto or where he is not the main focus?

How come a character designed to be nothing more than support (for Neji and Naruto, as her infatuation with him was built in order to have some oppositional force to the idea of “nobody likes him”, as Naruto has an unrequited love for Sakura during the whole duration of the manga) is “better written” than Sakura, who despite herself being also support she has far more thematically ground to move around (Kishimoto explores through her different themes, even if they aren’t relevant to the plot itself, such as romantical obsession, low self-esteem and the decisions/characteristics that are driven by it, female friendship, and few others).

Honest question: It’s her sad background reason enough to like Hinata? Do you truly need a “compelling” backstory in order to claim a character is “better written” than others? Sakura was bullied because she was shy, Hinata -being the Hyüga heir, wasn’t shown to suffer the same fate at the hands of her classmates. Think about it this way, while Sakura was being bullied and had to be helped by Ino, Hinata was being trained by her father and witnessing Hiashi torture her uncle while Neji cried, helpless! –and just a few years later, she used that exact knowledge to insult him! So she’s not really that nice after all!

What is it with the obsession of both fandoms with the idea of “potential” and how, apparently, they were “robbed of it” (what “potential”? When did Hinata even hint at improving her fighting techniques? She was defeated every single time! When did Sakura, who canonically has a smaller chakra pool than both Sasuke and Naruto, have the possibility of surpass literally Ashura and Indra’s reincarnations? Them having more panel time will mean absolutely nothing as we’ll see them doing the exact same thing we already see them do only twice as much. “Potential” is about exploring a latent ability of them, Hinata has none and Sakura’s chakra flux control was properly exploited!).

There’s more to say about this, but I’m honestly tired at this point…

[lunaneko14]

Knows Hinata wouldn’t lie.

Knows Sakura would.

🤔

[asukakuro]

NH accept 'The Last is canon' is such a comedy. It means they admitted that Naruto had ignored Hinata for 3 years, possibly forgotten her public confession and definitely not even found her after the war.

If The Last hadn't been existed, we would have imagined that Naruto found Hinata interesting and want to go out with her no sooner than 699. Hinata fans and Sakura fans also wouldn't have to fight each other for the appearances of Byakugan Princess and Cherry Blossom Queen. Leaving it as a blank period is so much better than supposing that Naruto was a stupid for not realizing Hinata had having a crush on him for so long.

The most idiotic scene that The Last had done to shot on NH themselves was 'Naruto likes Sakura because of his rivalry with Sasuke' [here].

[shiningstars-world]

Look at this disgusting person. A disgusting naruhina shipper! Wishing me die over a 2D characters...

She accused me of being misogynist and homophobic while she dissed sns and call me B word insult which is a misogynist insult

Like I don't have anything to say...she said she's bisexual but what lgbt person will be homophobic??

She was like: i won't answering you anymore hope you have a bad day b!ch...🫤

She was the one who acted like a bitch but call me that 🤣🫤

Also i never said naruhina weren't married i just said they're forced and look at how she gets angry by that simple fact😂

Oh i forgot she called me schizophrenic just bc I said they're forced 😭😂

Well I'm going to cross tagging this post. I don't say all the nh shippers are like this but well most of them are this toxic like this person🤷

[meowmada]

Hinata haters that also hate sumire and himawari are just proving the fact that hinata hate comes from simple internalized misogyny

[naruhinalife555]

Shut up butch this not that your pink trash much better!!

Sakura Sakura Sakura how's my favourite little trash onwe doing she is okay so not for long now because I'm about to rip into her

Antis "Here's the situation Hinata she is bland frumpy well she is not shy she is only "kind not have awkward to privileged to busy idolizing". Shut up because good mother like hinata will never putting Naruto before her kids.

Hinata she is not like the trash pink with the point disgusting on her forehead. Sometimes people they are tend to get confused and Watch only in anime but not read manga the anime ruin her character.

Hinata she is still shinobi

And you think that this not annoying to hear your nonsense??? So what if Hinata she is born in world harsh. So what if she is not fit of Course she know what it takes to live ap the experience she is not Placed on her as the hair. This not the reason why Hiashi has to pass it down Hanabi be heiress I even not understand what even interesting in her filler character that even not existing Hanabi she is not kunichi and it clear that she is not capable not much from Hinata

it is not her fault of Hinata that she is fel on trash father. i sure that if you was instead you wouldn't talk in this way

It yes matter Hanbi she is not did half from that did Hinata, Hiashi he is the fault he not was good with hinata. Cleary it is not was rigth to do it. Hinata know what her duty to her clan. Sorry but Hiashi he is not was responsable about hinata that only was a littel girl. he is act to hinata like a trash. hinata she is was need to prov her self and be strong alone. The manga not prov that Hinata was a "stalker" after her crash. Even Naruto kno that to hinata have motivation to be strong it not only for him.

it is no fair when Neji dead to no one was care about him only to Rock Lee and Hinata was care about him. Hinata never was a slave in her family what are you want she is mother she is has a littel girl. she is need to keep her.

Aaaa you can to talking abut selfish?? After that Hinata she is almost dead your pink trash she is going to Naruto to get him love confession cleary that he is lie. she is not was a good friend she is not thinking about hinata's feelings. No, it just makes me angry that Sakura is going after someone who just wants to kill her. Isn't that harassment???

Absolutely not Naruto never ignored Hinata when Hinata was hurt Naruto in battle protected her with his whole body it's always a detail that haters like you leave out just to hate Hinata.Hinata she is not selfish without her Naruto was a dead. In the manga he even said he went crazy after what happened to her he also said she saved him you are not understood it would have been more selfish if she hadn't jumped into the fight against Pain and it is clear that Naruto was shocked because he doesn't use to have anyone who even loves him

What does that have to do with suicide?? Of course she fought. Naruto said how strong Hinata was that she saved him.

There is no mistake here that was made out of guilt. Naruto did it because he wanted to and for no other reason. He does care about Hinata, otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned how much.he also said how crazy he was is this called ignoring???You completely ignored this part.

This is absolutely not true, Hinata she is wirrten excellent. You just like the empty and the toxic characters without any content like Sakura who don't care about others at all.Kishimoto never said Hinata was poorly written, he loved her.

Kishimoto makes it clear that in his mind Naruto and Hinata would be together and that while he didn’t consider writing the story of how they got together himself, that was till Pierrot suggested they make the next movie then Kishimoto gave them his full support.

Just shut up, it hasn't been proven that Hinata is a slave or anything else you mentioned, you're just a hypocritical and lying fandom. On the contrary, Hinata only got stronger in Boruto.

I never connected with Hanabi just a character as unnecessary as an ass. Sorry for the expression, but her fan base is so toxic and hypocritical. What do you want? Hinata hasn't forgotten about her tribe for a single moment. In contrast, Hanabi doesn't do anything with her life.You should actually be thankful that she has a good sister like Hinata.Seriously where was Hanabi in ​​the war???

Even that her cousin died,Hanabi she is not was. Hinata only appeared in the manga, Hanabi crying over him only in a stupid filler.

So enough of all this hate won't help you Sakura fans Hinata is none of the things you said I always asked where Sakura was about half the people in the war died she could have started healing them while Naruto was falling

What meaning does to Sakura character when she does nothing?Even Obito understood how important Hinata was. Because he saw one full of hope who was always ready to fight for her friends.

It's just evil to say that Hinata doesn't care about her family. Hinata isn't bad mother as the anime trying to show.

Sakura almost kills her daughter. Makes the earth shake and makes her cry. Lies to her about her father. It's just horrible. I would die if I had a mother like that. The Boruto anime is trying so hard to make Sakura a hero when she's not.

Another thing is that she's a housewife, there's nothing wrong with that. Kushina and Mito were also housewives, and I didn't see anyone hating them.

So enough please, enough with this, you're messing around with things that don't exist. Hinata is good and the manga has proven it well and you won't be able to change that. Here's a request: show me another husband and wife like that and only in the manga.

[madaras-tits]

Shitty pro Sakura memes: a collection

These are memes that popped on my pinterest page every now and then, and they all range from reducing Sakura to “she doesn’t have a flat chest, so she’s a good character”, to “Hinata is a housewife, so she sucks and Sakura doesn’t” (which sounds a lot like internalized misogyny, but ok). Anyway, enjoy!

[sneezemonster15]

look at this 💀 what do u think about it? this person genuinely said the reason why sasuke's straight is bc of fake rumours made by little girls that happen with every popular kid at school 😭 she took it fr lmaooo

https://www.tumblr.com/kirinkarin/715752831201771520/dushman-e-jaan-yaoi-shippers-really-are-so?source=share

Lol, I have addressed her theories before. Read it here. It was a response to her response to my post.

She is just a nasty little homophobe, ignorant and real delusional to boot. Don't mind her too much, it would only give her more leverage. Just ignore her. She lies. A lot. To herself as well. And lies that can be caught so easily, a child can do it. Which is funny because, like the manga is right there for everyone to read. I can read it, she can too, so can everyone. We know what's been said and shown and how it's been said and shown, we know how to read. It's all there. And yet, she does selective reading and can't for the life of her, understand nuances that prove Sasuke and Naruto as gay lovers. She simply bypasses those because they don't serve her heteronormative purposes.

Basically like any other anti SNS female Sasuke stan who basically lusts after Sasuke, and conveniently ignores everything that indicates at Naruto and Sasuke's romantic relationship. She also has no idea about Japanese media, history, literature, sexual culture in Japan, or the process of writing a story. Everything that influences Kishi's storytelling. Facts are facts. One can't just unsee them, and if one is doing it anyway, well how can I take them seriously? Just an embarrassing, silly fangirl who cannot take constructive criticism, who can't be objective no matter what information she is given, and knowingly perpetuates dogma, bigotry and misinformation about sexuality and its portrayal in media, who also blocked me (as did all her cohorts) after I published my post about her. Even though I have never interacted with her blog. Or any other Sasuke stan for that matter. Lol. Maybe they just don't want me to see their content.

Just understand this, anyone who vehemently denies Sasuke and Naruto's romantic relationship or who makes it their life mission to prove Sasuke and Naruto as straight, is simply a homophobe. Bigots of the first order. They know it's romantic but their conditioning and prejudice stops them from being reflexive. Which they haven't been able to break, evidently. You can try to be reasonable but at the end of the day, they aren't here for logic or reason or the art of storytelling. They are here to write Sasuke het smut and self insert into any girl so they could have Sasuke fuck them in their imagination. The understanding that Sasuke is gay would not be conducive to their fapping. So they just bypass that altogether and spread misinformation and bigotry like they have done here.

[anubisthe1]

"Omg sakura haruno has so much potention!!"

Just go to ao3 babe, just go to the ff zone where others write her to be likeable. Dont talk to me about canon sakura when her biggest hater its her own author.

[leportraitducadavre]

I deleted the reblog but the casual transphobia of the Hinata fandom when speaking about Sakura's body baffles me, are you seriously willing to go to such lengths in order to defend a 2D character whose entire relevance rests upon being the stalker of the main character?

You can't call yourself feminists nor expect a feminist critique of your favorite character if you're not willing to conduct yourselves with the same levels of respect, you buffoons!

Body-shaming is never okay but, in this specific case, I don't think this is comparative to the simple idea of "body-shaming" because the comparison is not only about Sakura and/or Sarada's "masculinized" body but also to the use of the term "trans prostitute" in a pejorative manner and as a way of categorizing trans identity in conjunction with sexually exploitative work.

This is done in order to diminish the relevance of trans identities by linking them to the idea of "boys" and "masculinized body types" as opposed to the notion of "feminized body types" (as if women are standardized individuals and anything outside of that curvy body type you lot love to associate Hinata with, is somehow masculine), while at the same time tying them to sex-work, which is an archetype and a job that the trans community has not only been pushed into but also attempts to disassociate itself from.

[tae-shimura-is-my-wife]

!Giant rant + an entire Hnata salt shaker under the cut! If you're a hardcore stan of her i suggest skipping it! Read at your own risk!

I genuely liked Hnata in the beginning, i liked her shy and quiet personality, i was interested to see her overcoming her self confidence and prove herself to Hiashi, and even try to help Neji (despite the awful thing she said for him) but i was delusional man, she was introduced as Nruto lover and it didn't go any further... i belived Kishimoto (such a dumb girl). But hey Studio SP kinda tricked me too, in the Bikochu arc she was so amazing! Savinh her teamates and Nruto all alone, thinking in training to get better and stuff like that... it was filler, but i still had my hopes up. But then i watched Shippuden and i finally perceveid that she wasn't going any further than loving Nruto.

I don't mind her crushing him, neither having a giant part of her attached to a love interest (i like Orihime plz), but it was not just a giant part of Hnata, it was literally EVERYTHING! Analyzing everything she did in the entire manga 98% was for Nruto related. Kishimoto couldn't just make her a cute shy weirdo, he needed to reduce Hnata to Nruto! All her training and making her confidence better, was to confess to Nruto, comfort Nruto and fight for Nruto. Fuck proving herself to Hiashi, fuck trying to help Neji, fuck trying to get better in order to help her teamates in missions...

Kishimoto made her become so annoying with it! Everytime she appeared i knew it was gonna to be Nruto related and if it wasn't? Well it would become about him! It was unbearable at the point of making her seem extremely selfish and thinking that only she and Nruto exist in the whole world. Like she was ready to get her team eliminated from chunnin exam because a boy? In Pain arc she literally prefered to confess her love and die instead of trying to free Nruto (which was the only hope for the village)?? The scene where Neji died, instead of being of both her and Nruto suffering with their lost, was about she caring more Nruto feelings than her cousin??? KISHIMOTO WHY?

Not to mention, how everything aside of Nruto in her life seems so irrelevant, Kurenai, Hanabi, Neji, Kiba and Shino, barely had anything with her? It seems way more that they care about her than the reverse, because gosh forbid Hnata or having a life outside of Nruto right Kishimoto?

It's hard to like her that way! I tried my best, but i couldn't anymore after seeing she would be a Nruto simp forever and have nothing outside of it.

I understand why people like her, because i already did! I still like her shy and quiet personality and think she's cute, but canon Hnata behaviours annoy me way too much! Despite that i wish she was better and i try to make her justice in my fanon content of her outside of tumblr btw, i love the Hnata i created in my head and her fanon version, but it will never stop me for disliking her canon self.

Despite everything, i don't hate her, i don't want Hnata to die or be tortured, i want try to make her better as she should be! I already hated her a time, but after seeing how i was falling the trap of bittersweet shippers and people who put her down to uplift their faves, i perceveied it was just pettiness, - especially because they spent more time hating Hnata rather than Kishimoto who did all this sh!t -, and none of them wanted her to be a better character and person, which is what i wish.

[lunaneko14]

Does Sakura have this much influence?

[maoam]

Naruhinas who see one anti-sakura post from me and immediately hit follow are funny.

In their minds, if someone doesn't like Sakura, they must be NH stan and Hinata stan.

Well I'm not, Hinata is not a likeable character either and NH sucks. NH and SS fighting over which ships sucks less is just pathetic to me...

Naruto sleeps on the couch, Sasuke sleeps in the woods, who cares.

[naruhinalife555]

Well shut up

1. To Hinata not was other person that she can to dream on him. what are you want that she dreaming on her family that acted her like a trash?? Ten Ten not exactly showed that she even care about Neji dead in canon!

2. About Ino Shikamaru and Sai well to Hinata not was a father that supports her like them. Hinata suffering much in her childhood because her father

3. This still not reason to hate Hinata Hinata fight to all her friends and always care about them

4. On what you even talking about in movie stupid that even not canon?? are you stupid bitch road to ninja he is movie that contractions the manga !!!! 🤦

5. But Naruto he is yes like before Naruto he is think about Hinata and you are not can said anything please. Kishimoto make NaruHina from beginning the fact that she dreaming about him it because he the won that supports her please bitch go to fucking hell you are not deciding what Hinata can imagine or not it is not your manga and why that she is imagining the clan that never was there for her and not trust on her Hinata was need to be strong alone 😢😢😢🥺

[madara-fate]

This maybe an unpopular opinion mostly with anti which I think are a vocal minority,but I honestly think that Kishi did a great job with the pairings and ships they make sense and the clever use of red herrings because they till this day still have fans crying about their sunk ships, also the whole NH vs SS and NS is so ridiculous like I swear both pairings were sister ships at one point, not that they have to like each other but feels like a ridiculous contest and competition they don't clash with one another nor compete in anyway. NS was always stirring up bs against SS so I find it doubly weird that SS fans always defend it in my opinion, seems like it's Fanon Hinata stans vs Fanon Sakura stans bunch of self inserts who don't understand the characters they claim to be fans of just bias and petty wannabe mean girl shit.

I honestly think that Kishi did a great job with the pairings and ships they make sense

At the very least, the ships definitely make sense. Perhaps the execution could have been a little better, but they make sense.

also the whole NH vs SS and NS is so ridiculous like I swear both pairings were sister ships at one point, not that they have to like each other but feels like a ridiculous contest and competition they don't clash with one another nor compete in anyway.

They were indeed "sister ships" at one point. But then the stupid Sakura vs Hinata wars seeped into their ship preferences and destroyed whatever surface level alliance NH and SS seemed to have. You're 100% correct that neither the characters nor the ships clash or compete in any way, but this asinine fandom just loves to turn everything into some form of petty competition.

NS was always stirring up bs against SS so I find it doubly weird that SS fans always defend it in my opinion, seems like it's Fanon Hinata stans vs Fanon Sakura stans bunch of self inserts who don't understand the characters they claim to be fans of just bias and petty wannabe mean girl shit.

Pretty much. I've come across plenty of Sakura fans falsely describing themselves as SS fans and it's honestly rather annoying.

[sneezemonster15]

When I had started writing this blog, I was told by other SNS to tag my Sakura and Hinata posts as anti Sakura and anti Hinata so I wouldn't be hounded by their crazy ass stans. Well that didn't work. Lol. Anyway, I began to tag my posts as Haruno Sakura and Hyuuga Hinata, because even if I don't like them, my analysis of them is based on their characters, I am rock solid secure about it and I don't care who reads it and cries about it.

My suggestion to SNS fans would be, take the antis head on if you wish so. Take any anti SNS head on. Any single one of them. Confront them if you want, without hesitation or doubt. No need to be afraid.

As a SNS shipper, just know you are in the right. I am ready to sign it on a bond paper. Just know that they are ALL CATEGORICALLY WRONG, and you SNS stans are right, as long as you have sincerely read and understood the manga.

Know that you are backed by the author of the manga, media experts and aficionados and several casual fans who value accountability and have a mature outlook towards storytelling and life. Say it with arrogance and conceit even, because sometimes intimidation works just as well. Don't waste your energy on things that don't deserve it. But if you do choose to confront, never be meek, never surrender. Be cool about it or aggressive, your choice but don't feel disheartened at their takes, they don't know what they are talking about. Laugh at them if you want, that's what their theories are good for anyway.

Enough of this homophobic caterwauling. This is 2024, and this is a global fandom with many fans who are impressionable and naive. Let them have the advantage of understanding the true meaning of this manga. You are the torchbearers of Naruto's legacy, like I have said before, SNS fans are true Naruto fans, the rest are just posers and bigoted dumbfucks. No more bigotry, no more prejudice, no more bullshit. It's high time. Enough time has passed and all the 'they are just friends waaah' or 'they are just brothers waaah' or 'It is unintentional waaah' type of takes need to GO! Naruto fandom is your space to explore, take advantage and have your fun and thrill too. YOU own it. Go crazy. Saturate the fandom, open up the discussion, destroy the prejudice and dumbfuckery, confront whothefuckever you wish, and do it with relish because you are right and they are wrong. Period.

Do it. Be bold, be strong, be proud. You have the fandom's support, passionate support too because that's what this story engenders in responsible fans. Confront them without hesitation if that's your vibe and smack them in the face with panels from the manga and explain them too, they are quite easy to decode. Just know you can do it because that's what the story is supposed to be, you can't miss it. High time to change this heteronormative narrative. Naruto is a gay love story and there's nothing anyone can do about it.