#anti feysand stans

[maybeiwasjustjade]

I see so many post constantly degrading Nesta for being so nasty and mean and ungrateful; for using Rhysand’s money and staying on his land (not for free I might add) while refusing to play nice or care.

But isn’t that the bare minimum of what he owes her?

The IC and Feyre dragged Nesta and Elain into their world by manipulating them using their guilt over letting Feyre hunt for those 5 years when they were severely impoverished. Nevermind that Feyre doesn’t know how to cook or clean so someone had to have done that, or that someone was bound to do physical labor anyway. But I digress—the IC gave Nesta so much shit for refusing to be Feyre and Elain’s mom, for not being the one to take care of them by any means necessary (which we know would’ve been through marriage).

So the sisters agreed to help with the Human Queens, putting a major target on their backs. The IC sent away their staff and guards, promised to leave protection that failed miserably. Feyre told Ianthe about her sisters; Rhysand let the Attor live knowing that Hybern would have their location. So the sisters were taken—kidnapped and dragged and thrown into something that turned them into something they weren’t.

Murdered and tortured for however eternity it took to melt the flesh off their bones, for their bones to grow and lengthen, and magic to flow through their veins. There’s another word for this, you know? Nonconsensual body modification. And just because they came out young and beautiful and immortal, everyone around them expected them to be grateful. But what is there to be grateful for, if you were Nesta and Elain? Ripped from their finally stable human lives and love? Forced to join a war that had nothing to do with them until it eventually fucked them over too?

As far as I’m concerned, and how it should’ve been if SJM wasn’t so far up feysand’s ass, whatever debt owed by Nesta and Elain to Feyre was repaid in full when they were murdered over Feyre and the IC’s actions.

Elain came out of that Cauldron catatonic for months. Nesta came out something other, even for a Fae, and dripping with so much power that she made High Lords quake at the sight of her and that damned finger. And in order to spare Elain from further suffering, Nesta took the brunt of their missions and scrying, repressed and depressed as she was. Yet it was still them who killed the King of Hybern, effectively ending the war.

The bare minimum Rhysand owed them afterwards was a fucking lifetime of peace, and to be left alone if they wished with enough money to make a king cry. But that wasn’t enough for him was it? Feyre was pushy because she wanted Nesta around even when Nesta preferred to be literally anywhere else. I can understand that to an extent as a younger sister myself. But she went about it all wrong, and let her mate do what he does best: be a complete and utter bitch.

And if getting sexually assaulted and repeatedly nearly dying finding the Troves for the NC still wasn’t enough to repay whatever fucking ‘debt’ Rhysand and his stans seem to still think she owes (despite the dying and kingslaying), Nesta gave up a significant portion of herself to save Feyre, Nyx, and Rhysand. And despite his gratefulness, he still couldn’t help himself from berating her horribly behind Feyre’s back, even when Feyre herself has told him repeatedly to lay the fuck off her sister.

So, NO. Nesta shouldn’t owe squat to the NC and its shitty High Lord. Pretty sure at this point, he owes her more.

[ladydeath-22]

I see so many fans stating that

“Feyre is underrated in her own series”

Yeah I wonder why. I’m sure if you ask them, who overshadows here they will not have an answer because their fav Rhysie overshadows her.

(They might say Nesta, cause they just hate her, but I love Nesta but come on she doesn’t overshadow feyre. Acosf was her book not Feyre’s and even then it was surrounded around feyre)

But moving on, literally everything Feyre is or does aligns with Rhys. Everything is connected to Rhys. Her friends which is the inner circle, her high lady title, even the title as cursebreaker has Rhys helped her in the second task. Even her own hobby is connected to Rhys, as he has a vision of someone painting.

Nothing Feyre has is hers. Rhys’s friends are his as they will be loyal and listen to him first let’s be honest. As it is proven during the pregnancy secret and how the IC always look to Rhys first whenever Feyre gives an order they don’t like.

The IC hid the fact feyre was going to die from her and then had the audacity to get mad at Nesta for telling her (and somehow got the entire fandom to be mad at her??)

I have a theory that people who don’t like or hate the Valkyries is because they wanted Feyre to have that friendship. The Valkyrie friendship is 1000% stronger than Feyre’s friendship with Mor and Amren.

And Feyre doesn’t even have ONE good friend outside the IC. She had Lucien, but the entire IV drove him out and she started to treat him bad because of Rhys. She drove him out of the NC and when she went to HIS terf she made fun of his friendship with Jurian and Vassa. Like Feyre honey, the Court of Dreamers isn’t better.

Even at the end of HOSAB, the final line is “hello my name is Rhysand” and even when Aelin was falling, Rhys was the one who helped her slow down. All aelin saw was a pregnant female and a handsome man. Feyre was reduced to a pregnant female. Imagine that.

So Feyre’s life revolves around Rhys, which is why she is underrated in her own series. And it’s not because of characters you hate and want to blame.

[tamlindudley]

Somebody screenshotted a part of my rant about sjms treatment of Tamlin where I just mentioned why Feyre didn't help him with his PTSD too along with many other points.. but the screenshot was just them totally ignoring all the other points I made like okay take that one thing and act like a feminist to kiss Rice bags ass geez.

[kataraavatara]

it’s so jarring reading acotar and acomaf feyre talking about how she hates propriety she hates being expected to birth heirs she hates caring about what other people think. and rhysand tells her he’s so much different than tamlin, he’s a dreamer assuring her that with him she won’t have to do any of those awful things hard cut to acosf feyre pregnant at twenty literally threatening to banish her sister because Nesta embarrassed her. And who was the one who humiliated Feyre by reading the bill in front of everyone. oh that’s right.

[littlefeltsparrow]

Schrödinger’s Feyre: Where Feyre is simultaneously a cunning and badass girlboss with a mind of steel and a fragile little lamb who doesn’t know any better. When they’re proud, she’s a skilled strategist and competent High Lady, but when it comes to facing the consequences of her actions and the implications of her power, suddenly she’s a little baby waddling through fairy land.

[unforgivenyunjin]

“Rhys wasn’t raped”

“Rhys wasn’t raped”

“Rhys wasn’t raped”

“Rhys wasn’t raped”

“Rhys wasn’t raped”

Rape is both emotional and physical abuse and anything that is not 100% consent is rape. Being forced to have sex with someone out of fear is rape. Being forced to have sex with someone for “benefits” such as going outside is rape. Being forced to have sex with someone to prove your loyalty to them is rape.

If you’re put in any sexual situation where you are forced to do things and not because you genuinely want to, that is rape. Rhys did not 100% consent to his “relationship” (if you could even call it that) with Amarantha. He literally talks about how he was suicidal for a while because of what was happening to him Under The Mountain but it was all consensual? He was just a sex worker?

Two of the most ridiculous points this person makes is one, saying rape isn’t emotional abuse. And two, insinuating that being a “sex worker” made everything that happened to Rhys completely fine.

Sex workers are taken advantage of all the time. That’s one of the most dangerous parts of it. Being a sex worker does not always equal to consenting to everything you do. It’s not this glamorous job where you’re just consenting to everything and having sex for the fun of it. Therefore slapping the term “sex worker” onto Rhys as a way to invalidate his decades of sexual abuse is nothing short of demented.

And rape is most definitely emotions abuse. A lot of the time rape is used to control someone as seen with Amarantha and Rhys. She wanted to punish him because his father killed her friend and she wanted to prove his loyalty to her. It was literally about breaking him down and that’s why he still has trauma from it. You can’t look at the mental scars Rhys has because of Amarantha and boldly claim that wasn’t rape. You can’t read him clearly saying “she made me fuck her” and boldly claim that it wasn’t rape.

This person is not a child so there’s no valid excuse for this mentality. It’s just blatant vile ignorance and a nasty soul.

[wallflowers-in-the-wind]

Love him or hate him at least Tamlin apologized, admitted what he did wrong, and tried to change for the better. His actions were to save his people and the one he loved. Tamlin also didn’t need to save Rhysand and Feyre but he did because despite everything they did he wanted her to be happy.

Tamlin is many things but a villain isn’t one of them.

[lainalit]

The discussion of whether Feyre's High Lady title isn't just performative is pointless since she can never rule alone and get rhys powers because she will drop dead seconds after his death due to their death pact

[ofbreathandflame-archive]

The visceral reaction to Ember’s rant towards Rhysand says a lot. There’s genuinely so much to unpack about how her concern is not only disregarded by Rhysand's stans but also mocked, to some extent. And this again, brings me back to my initial point about the extent of misogyny in this story and among its fans. I also think it’s interesting to see the difference between how Feyre’s initial sass is perceived (by fans and the story) versus how Ember is perceived by fans for standing up for Nesta. It brings me back to the point that (1) the story only believes Feyre should be empowered, and the story (and fans) don’t believe that all female characters should also have those traits. My second (2) point is how quickly people rush to invalidate and/or disregard domestic violence and abuse when less favorable characters react because of it. Here we have a human woman, who was abused and held hostage by a powerful Fae lord, so much so that she must take her daughter and run. She – in another realm – sees another woman in need and sees her body behavior and stands up to this man who could literally just kill her. This is interesting because when Feyre throws her shoe at Rhysand ‘in defiance’ of Rhys, we are supposed to think this is positive, yet when Ember does the same thing (and with the support of the narrative – this is a moment where SJM is attempting to hold Rhys accountable, to some extent) she is mocked. Laughed at. It isn’t as endearing to those stans. How quickly (potential) violence against women becomes suddenly a joke......

[achaotichuman]

Also since third ask is the charm, Rhysand fans are literally INSANE. And I mean it with every sense of the word. I joined Tumblr in mid Feb I think? And the leader of the rhys culture who shall not be named literally threatened me and called me all kinds of names, leaked my face, where I live, where I go to school, insulted my religion, called me all kinds of slurs....and people backed her up. Mind you I never posted about ACOTAR I'm a kpop account😭. All I sent was a comment questioning rhys and feyres age gap and maturity level

And yet tamlin fans are the toxic ones...sure Jan..

Jesus Christ. That is like serial killer shit. The lengths people will go to for the sake of one shitty book character is insane to me. I hope you're okay, if you ever need to talk or need someone to back you up when people are goin at you, I'm always here.

There is so much wrong with this fandom, and I swear it's because of how fuckin toxic the book characters are. Idk, maybe Rhysand is real and is brain washing everyone into being like this, because it is bone-chilling to think we live in a world where people will leak where others *live* because of an opinion about someone WHO ISNT EVEN REAL

[viktoriaashleyyx]

Feyre: "I wondered, if I had just asked, if Tarquin would just give the book to me."

Me: great idea girly, using your head I am proud of you he seems like a rational guy

Feyre: "but Rhys said no"

Me:

[stargirlfeyre]

If holding Nesta accountable for her actions instead of coddling her and blaming it all on her mental state is misogynistic then call me Eris.

[thatapologisttoyourantis]

I’m not sure why the dumbass Feysand stans are suddenly “confusing?” Making up? That Tamlin’s depression & the current state of The Spring Court means he’s poor…have they all lost their minds?!?!!!

Why am I seeing so many fics written by Feysand stans that have Tamlin involvement, where he’s now poor because he’s depressed & hasn’t started rebuilding Spring & suddenly he’s now going round to the other courts & the other HL’s begging for help including Rhysand, like fuck off & be so gods damned for real for 2 seconds…are you that idiotic to think that he doesn’t have separate finances? That his whole familial bloodline didn’t have their own personal accounts.

*sighs deeply at the incompetence within this fandom*

I legit saw a few people in a TikTok comments saying that he’s depressed & broke…LIKE WHERE THE FUCK DID YOU EVEN GET THIS FROM?! The male is depressed & has 0 motivations right now to pick himself back up & rebuild the court but that has ZERO CORRELATION TO HIS WEALTH STATUS!! Tamlin is very much a wealthy male the difference between Tamlin & Rhysand in their wealth is that one of them uses it to constantly show off & look down on others whilst the other doesn’t & is quite humble about his wealth, he spends when & where’s necessary.

We get that you hate the male but the level of lies & idiocy within y’all is crazy, try to correlate rapidly deteriorating mental health (a depressed & suicidal male) to his wealth status might just be one of the stupidest thing I’ve seen come from them yet…

[reblogandlikes]

Being told that you have "internalised misogyny" simply for having the audacity to critique Feyre’s trajectory and wanting more for her character outside of another is wild to me. Are fictional characters immuned to scrutiny, no matter their gender, now?

Can we just accept opinions that differ, and you don't know another random person on the Internet enough to presume you know their beliefs?

Anywho...

[decadentpostnachos-evil-twin]

I swear, the entirety of the TikTok acotar bubble shares ONE SINGLE braincell and they've lost it.

Why am I even still on this hellsite? 😭 Since when are we inventing canon just to hate on characters?

Found someone with some common sense there, yay.

And then you see this. I don't even know what to say to this. Is it so hard to THINK?

[unforgivenyunjin]

“Feylin’s relationship failed because Feyre doesn’t know how to communicate”

Feylin’s relationship failed because Tamlin is aggressive, controlling, and almost killed his fiancé when she tried to communicate her feelings to him.