#anti dr eggman

[putterpen]

Responding to the cult of Eggman

Aka: Responding to people about my opinions on Eggman that they seemingly cannot handle lol.

To Quote crusherthedoctor :

No one can ever politely debate with us, can they? They always have to be hungry werewolves about it. And not even clever werewolves at that.

Why should I be bothered to debate you? My opinions are mine and I can say whatever I want to say about a cartoon mustache man.

So anyway, on to responding to the response I guess.

Aww, poor, poor Starline! Always getting so viciously bullied and ruthlessly harassed by *checks notes* five people in the entire fandom that dislike his character’s writing 

Are you keeping tabs on how many people dislike Starline? Right off the bat...that's pathetic. Why? Are you planning something? And also you don't know who I talk to, and where I've talked to them. I have seen other people dislike Starline for various reasons.

But also… Starline pretty much IS a Gary Stu. He has several abilities that are completely unexplained (like the hypnoglove and the electric heel spurs he suddenly has from Bad Guys and onwards), has an ability that makes him absurdly overpowered (the Tricore) and the narrative makes it a point to present any flaws he might have as a result of his association with Eggman along with propping him up as this awesome foe which is mightier and x100 smarter than Eggman. His plans, despite everything Starline goes through in his miniseries, are still realized almost exactly how he intended (see below).

In a world where an 8 year old can fly planes, space ships, airships, warships, build mechs, buster canons, rocket ships, and replicate the properties of the chaos emeralds themselves...and you are mad because Starline has rocket shoes that he can't even use that well, and some mcguffins. Are you kidding me. I am laughing as I write this.

As "overpowered" as the Tricore is, it do him any good did it? And a device that can hypnotize people isn't really that astounding in a world of insane tech and magic. You think Tails is okay but Starline is a line too far...got it. He isn't a gary-stu. Starline is about on par with everyone else.

What is Starline actually, genuinely good at? The comic always hands him his major strategic victories on a silver platter, and even if his allies backstab him, it just proves to be a minor inconvenience to him and he still gets what he wants at the end of the story. His plans never completely failed until #50

Why do you want to read a story about a character who just fails at everything? He worked and planned to get everything, not sure if we are reading the same comic. You think he should have failed because you have some immense irrational hatred towards him. But hey you got what you wanted. He failed in the end ultimately. Though you can't be soothed since if Starline had succeeded, you would still scream.

Then you post pictures of Tails and Zavok. All I can say is the more the merrier. I bet you don't even like Zavok, as most people don't, but you will use him if it helps your case. The point I was making is Starline was trying to be a better Eggman than Eggman, and that I what I like about the character. Zavok is cool in his own way but his methods are different, and so are Tails, and they all have different motivations to go against Eggman. So cool, the more Eggman rivals the better.

What complaints of ours is this supposed to refute? No, seriously

"complaints of ours?" Are you from some kind of Eggman cult? How do you know what every other Eggman fan thinks? Do you speak for all of them? Hah. Just need to get this out of the way I don't think I have come across this blog before.

The problem we have isn’t just “Starline steals Eggman’s stuff”, it’s that Starline steals Eggman’s stuff while putting Eggman down at every chance he gets and gets painted as a much more effectual villain than Eggman could ever be by the comic for it .

Are they supposed to steal Eggman's shit while singing his praises? Also it isn't like anything they said was wrong.

And in case you try to say “He’s a hypocrite intentionally!”, I’ll immediately raise  a counterpoint: hypocritical characters have to be intetesting. Starline is not written with the same amount of nuance that, say, Walter White has, he’s just an immensely obnoxious brat whose hypocrisy only serves to irritate people more

Matter of opinion alert. And I think your opinion is dogshit. You don't like Starline and that's fine. You don't think he is "intetesting", but I disagree. And that is literally where your "counterpoint" hits a wall. Hope you were wearing a seat belt. You know who else isn't nuanced? Eggman. Also comparing anything from Sonic the Hedgehog to Breaking Bad is cringe.

A source from the games, please?

Tails has never stole Eggman’s inventions in the games. His entire shtick is that he is an inventor, which allows him to build stuff himself 

Also “GUN steals Eggman’s stuff” is asinine. What, are they “stealing from Eggman” because they have an army of mass-produced robots too? Where was it ever remotely implied that GUN steals Eggman’s resources in the games?

I will admit that I made a mistake. I somehow generated false memories. I thought dialogue the Shadow the Hedgehog game mentioned something about G.U.N using Eggman's technology.

When it comes to Tails, I know Tails can invent but where does he get the parts? Raw materials? How does he have a mech in SA2 that seems functionally identical to Eggman's? I have always assumed he must be nicking stuff off Eggman at least as a starting point.

Me: Starline hasn’t taken over the world like eggman has!

You’ve literally conjured this one out of the thin air lmao

How can you prove that? Where is your evidence? Are you serious? How dare you tell me what I did or didn't do.

Time Eater is your one and only example. Vs how many other failures? Don't pat yourself on the back.

Eggman is funny when he’s stealing shit and tampering with it. Starline isn’t.

Jesus Christ you really just love the smell of your shitty opinions. I don't care if you think Starline isn't funny. What you think is good is subjective.

Also the Time Eater says hi again

Yeah your one time of being right says hi.

Bruh lmfaoooooooooo “the best version of Dr. Eggman is the one that constantly sits on his ass and screams at his nephew to actually do anything against the Freedom Fighters”

That's my opinion, and I clarified in a comment that it was mostly based on nostalgia. And he did plenty to the freedom fighters, dispersing them, terrorizing and imprisoning their friends and families, robotisizing them, and forcing them to live in the forest as he systematically destroys their planet day by day sums it up.

Eggman’s proactivity is a core part of his character. He’s famous for being the best example of a Recurring Varying Tactics Boss in gaming, so for you to haii the version of Eggman that’s the most passive one out of everyone else as “the best one” is quite amusing 

Just because SatAM Robotnik didn't physically move much (But yes he did indeed move around) doesn't mean he wasn't proactive. His swatbots and other machines did the work for him. He was always hunting down the Freedom Fighters and cooking up new schemes to gain more power.

Also, SatAM!Robotnik conquered the world by stealing an invention that didn’t belong to him and tampering with it lol

Yeah so you're a hypocrite for crying about people stealing Eggman's stuff. If I'm amusing, then you're just sad. The amount of anger you hold for some random person's opinions iiiis a bit amusing. Not gonna lie.

Alright, let’s see. Eggman canonically has:

abused animals; summoned an insane water god to destroy a large urban center; launched a nuclear warhead into the heart of said urban center when his plan went wayward; blew up the Moon to prove a point; kidnapped an innocent girl’s mother out of spite; split the planet apart TWICE (Advance 3, Unleashed); harvested the lifeforce of a peaceful allien race to fuel his plans; was shown siphoning the Earth’s lifeforce to fuel his plans; caused a global war for 6 months; created what essentially is an orbital internment camp to imprison anyone who dared to stand up against his rule; practiced “robotomy”, which is actually quite similar to Robotcization and is described as a proccess that “appears to leave its patients mentally disabled following the process, making them unable to think independently, and therefore turns them into mindless robotic slaves working for the doctor.”; dropped an artificial star on his enemies to wipe them out 

Do you see any reason to perceive someone who’s willing to do all of this shit without a second thought and with a smile on his face as a joke? Or what, is this list of crimes Eggman’s commited suddenly null and void because his dialogue is jokey and he’s not voiced by Jim Cummings?

Yes game Eggman is a joke. You will not change my mind lol. Sure SatAM Robotnik did not match those heights, but he did things equally as evil. As I mentioned before, he was cold, calculating, and heartless. Game Eggman is a joke because he is insane, always doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, and formulaically, has to ally with Sonic to clean up the mess he started. And will continue to do that because yadda yadda status quo. Eggman caused a ton of property damage and built things in space, all for nothing. He can't even physically hurt anyone.

Stop speaking for every Eggman fan. You are not the leader. And Starline is a pretty good villain.

[carnation-damnation]

The designs I came up for metal scourge and dr. ivo! Metal has speakers and has a synthesized robot voice like miku ...........

[ultraericthered]

Something just made me feel like doing this:

[shinigami-striker]

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[crusherthedoctor]

how are the IDW villains better than Eggman if they need his resources?

A reasonable question, but one that I don't think the writers have an answer to.

For comparison's sake, this is like if Classmate A openly declared themself smarter than Classmate B because they blatantly copied Classmate B's answers. Except we're supposed to take it completely seriously.

Villains who exist just to one-up Eggman are lame as it is. Villains who exist just to one-up Eggman and wouldn't even be a threat on their own if it weren't for Eggman is a whole new migraine. (And I don't wanna hear that "it's Starline's fatal flaw" flim-flam, since even after his death, the comic still insists on painting him as the bigger villain due to the presence of the equally ineffectual Surge and Kit.)

[thecalvinistkat]

I made an Anti Ai webcomic where Sonic absolutely roasts Dr. Eggman. You can read it below! And c’mon, you know you want to (:

Webcomic: https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/eggman-learns-why-ai-art-generators-are-bad/list?title_no=914774

Behind the scenes: https://youtube.com/shorts/uC9VTHgB5Y4?si=SYCaqez-64xPFSgD

[egg-emperor]

a lot of people in fandom are so susceptible to nuclear family propaganda and let it shape their views and goals of a successful life and see it as what makes all people and characters "complete". but I am so aro and have such low empathy and am so uninterested in having kids that there's nothing you can do to make all that shit appealing to me, no matter how much it's romanticized and has so emotional please cry moments to sway you lol

not saying this is in the Sonic games, it's obviously not. but some people genuinely really want Eggman to become part of a nuclear family so bad to the point of asking officials if it's gonna happen and they do crossovers of it with media that is propaganda for it. not even surprising that they're mad that I don't like that at all because they're easily won by that while I'm very immune :P

[beevean]

For the bingo

Well-written characters: Sonic, Eggman, Trevor, Hector, Rosaly, Dracula

Shit characters: Lenore and essentially the entire main cast of That Very Particular Game

bro.

Sonic here :P

Eggman:

Proof that evil bastards without a single redeeming quality in their bones can still be compelling, fleshed out characters.

my good man is a jolly fellow with a passion for amusement parks and for defacing ancient ruins because his face deserves to be plastered through history. an icon <3 he's perfect <3 well, except for how in many games he was pushed to the side with disappointing results. but it's okay. it's not his fault <3 he did nothing wrong <3

Trevor:

Trevor my good friend Trevor he's the Sonic of Castlevania and that makes him an instant 10/10 🥰

Love how he's both shaped like a friend, happy to accept all sorts of people as his companions, and also a terrifying menace that will kill you first and ask questions second. I think this post encapsulates why he's so good <3

I am a bit salty that he was wasted in CoD, though. Granted, he gave us some intense sessions of raw gay sex with Hector and Isaac, but you know, he could have done more.

Hector:

i like him a normal amount and i am very normal about him and i totally don't project onto his status as unwilling golden child pushed to become something he isn't until he has the strength to free himself to face a world that hates him because freedom is more dignified than being sheltered.

Rosaly:

the girl of all time 🥺 she's so 🥺 and so 🥰 and also so 💖 and even ✨

god the way CoD treated her is criminal. I'm so glad Kojima and Sasakura gave her more love and turned her into such a cute and interesting character, even if she is fairly simple and straightfoward - she is not simply the kind caretaker to Hector's brooding boy, she is too kind to the point that it's treated like a flaw. but she don't care. she's stubborn and idealistic and exactly what makes her so good for hector "if you take a snake in you'll get bitten" castlevania.

She will love you to death. You have no choice in the matter. Haha get absolutely cherished idiot <3

Dracula:

he's so stupid and petty and a selfish asshole bastard and maybe a bit of a perv and he should suffer more for my entertainment

i love him <3

I like that, compared to Eggman, he does have potentially redeeming qualities: he loves. He loves too much, even. And that is precisely what makes him such a piece of shit :)

anyway he did everything wrong. that is the point.

Lenore:

"Deserved a happier ending"? Sure. Hector should have set her on fire. That would have made me happy <3

I hate her so much. I hate that I can see the glimpses of a good villain buried underneath the revolting rape apology. I wish I could steal Hector's hammer, beat her until she's nothing but mush, and then recompose her to turn her into a well written character, and not four bad characters stitched together.

But also, Lenore has no reason to exist. The story could have progressed just fine if it was Carmilla trying to break Hector's spirit - and maybe show that he's stronger than she had thought. Lenore was only introduced for the sake of pushing S3's shitty r/im14andthisisdeep "trust is for dumbasses, and dumbasses deserve to be punished" message. She singlehandedly ruined Hector's character beyond redemption, and she herself was written by Ellis with a hand down his pants, which means that in S3 she's basically a walking kink and by S4 it's too late to woobiefy her. I need to rescue her concept (a vampire torn between her desire to pretend to be human and the thirst for power over people that comes with her nature) so badly because it's worth exploring, but the show only makes me want to turn myself into the sun and burn for eternity.

OMORI cast:

[squeesquoo]

It will be free in our lifetime.

Free Palestine.

Ceasefire now.

If you disagree, block me right now.

[squid-in-a-party-hat]

The Alternate Universe Eggman - Dr. Kintobor!

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[aquillis-main]

Same Energy... kinda

If only Eggman kept this badassness for the rest of the issue...

[marioluigimarioluigi]

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[carnation-damnation]

Silly old man and his tendency to keep creating critters

[ultraericthered]

Even Sonic Prime, just a year old at this point, was able to realize the concept of a world ruled by Eggman (or, regrettably, the Chaos Council in this case) in the form of New Yoke City.

Eggman's likeness is inescapable, which is what I'd expect from Eggman if he took over most of the planet, let alone a single city zone. Yet in Forces we got nothing distinguishing any of the zones Eggman supposedly now controlled from what you'd play through in any Sonic game, and as magnificent and in-character as Eggman is in Forces whenever he's actually on-screen, it is a horrendously out-of-character oversight for him to barely leave his personal mark. Not helping matters is that his new chief enforcer who helped him accomplish all this so-called domination was some throwaway evil, edgy putz with far less charm to him than Metal Sonic or Sage.

I always get irrationally upset when people are like ‘Sonic Forces’ story had a lot of potential it’s just that bad writing ruined it’ yeah the concept of a world where eggman finally won was a good concept that’s why they did it nearly TWENTY-FIVE YEARS EARLIER WITH SATAM

[shinigami-striker]

Good vs. Evil [Sonic Prime] | Tuesday, 01.02.24

That whole "good vs. evil" dynamic in Sonic Prime.

Watch more of Sonic Prime on Netflix, and stay tuned for the upcoming third and final season next week (Thursday, January 11, 2024).

[crusherthedoctor]

>Surge gets hyped up as the hottest shit

>crumbles before a Motobug

>Motobugs are Badniks

>Badniks are made by Eggman

>Eggman beat the alleged hottest shit

>Eggman is the true hottest shit