#anti constantine

[wanderingmind867]

I made this tierlist earlier. It was so big that it made my phone crash repeatedly, but it's now made. My definitive rankings for the DCU Characters (based on the comics i've read, combined with knowledge from watching tv shows and movies and from reading wiki pages). I still feel some indecision about some of my rankings, but i'm like 90% confident in all of my rankings. Now there's another DC tierlist I know of, so maybe i'll get to that one later. Either way, feel free to ask me questions about my rankings. My ask box is barely used (and I barely use the ask boxes of others), but still. Feel free to ask me any questions about my rankings. And I'll try my hardest to explain things. Oh, and before I forget: 'Mazing Man and Eddie Bloomberg (Kid Devil) would definitely have been S tier of they were here.

Oh, and i'm now remaking this post, just to get one big question out of the way: Why is Batman in E Tier? Decent question. But it's simple enough to me. It's because modern Batman really sucks, but Batman can be great. Adam West? Diedrich Bader? Those two are geniuses. Batman was amazing pre crisis. Modern Batman is a boring dark spot in the DCU. So he can't be in F, because he's got good traits. But he can't be in anything above D, as D and higher are characters I usually tolerate or like or love. So...yeah. There's the logic I used to put Batman in E tier.

People also seem baffled by Constantine. But let me say this: I hate R rated horror stuff. I hate that about Constantine's comics. The persona I see of a sexually active, incredibly cynical british guy also does nothing for me. He just gives off boring and/or creepy vibes to me, and I don't like him. I know that's apparently controversial (since everyone seems to love him), but I don't. The worst mage, just some stupid british cynic. It gives the fine world of sorcery a bad name. No theatrics, no wonder, no charm. For shame, sir. For shame.

[pinkrosealice]

I really like crossover fanfics and fan art, I really do. However I sometimes feel like some of the most popular fandom crossovers are also ones that perpetually fall into boring and predictable patterns while simultaneously and consistently ignoring/forgetting the most obvious and easy ways two or more fictional properties could be combined or crossed over.

And I think this is nowhere more apparent than the absolute proliferation of Danny Phantom and DC comics content here on this site.

Because you know what, I think there are some really cool and interesting things you could do with placing Danny and company in the world of DC or vice versa. The problem is that overwhelmingly I don't see any of those interesting ideas being done.

It's all the same variation of like three different plot points, all of which are exacerbated in their boring unoriginality and fandom cringiness by the fact that they also almost entirely revolve around the same flanderizations of DC characters that originate from people whose understanding of these comic book characters is entirely based off of watching the Teen Titans and Young Justice cartoons.

I am so so so so tired of seeing the same premise of Danny getting involved with Batman because he's a dark-haired light colored eyed superhero "twink" just like the rest of the male Robins. I'm tired of him getting adopted by Bruce, I'm tired of him being secretly Dick Grayson's long lost relative.

What's even worse is this crossovers frequent demonstration of what I think is the inexcusable sin of unoriginally using John Constantine, a character that I by and large think the vast majority of this website and it's user base just doesn't understand and probably never will. (this is a whole separate rant but the website that at one point had the majority of its user-base obsessed with an imaginary queer interpretation of one of the most aggressively mediocre and dude bro heterosexual paranormal TV shows to have ever existed is one that I think is fundamentally incapable of actually understanding or appreciating a legitimately compelling queer paranormal/urban fantasy character. The website that thinks Cas and & Dean were anything, whether that be a compelling romance, compelling characters or even in a good or enjoyable show, I think are forever incapable of actually understanding John.)

Do I think you could write an interesting story with John Constantine interacting with Danny? Yeah sure but I think that that would be entirely predicated on one's ability to actually write John compellingly, which is a dubious ask in the first place AND regardless it's still the most uninspired and boring interpretation of what you could do with "Danny interacting with one of the supernatural characters of DC"

Here are some actual recommendations for interesting crossovers and universe fusions :

*The fact that people want to have Danny Fenton interact with DC characters and Deadman and Secret are not the characters that immediately come to mind for fic ideas shows I think either the fundamental lack of creativity on the part of people who like this crossover, or just that they really don't know shit about DC comics....... Danny and Boston Brand would play off each other so well both comedically and as potential mentor and mentee. Greta and Danny would be ADORABLE together whether it is just friends or in a shippy dynamic.

* We need stories where Danny is interacting with The Spector, and the lack of them is just plain criminal in my opinion. I really could see a bunch of really cool stories where GhostKing Danny is put into conflict with the Vengeance of God. Or make him team up with The Specter have and have him fight Eclipso.

*we know the DC afterlife is incredibly complicated and interconnected with other mystical realms such as The Dreaming and Hell, maybe explore how that would relate to DP's conception of the Ghost Zone. Danny, Zachary Zatara and Kid Devil's bizarre interdimensional odyssey would be a great fic!

* if one has to put Danny in Gotham for some reason or another have him fight against the Gentleman Ghost, play around with the relationship with the glowing green ectoplasm and the green glowing liquid of the Lazarus Pits, and if you do that you have an excuse to make him interact with Jason Todd if you absolutely can't resist bringing in a member of the Bat family. Remember, Jason has the ability to summon forth magical blades under certain circumstances and as a character who has repeatedly died and come back to life he's the only bat that I think would actually have interesting interactions with Danny.

* but above all if you have to have Danny Phantom and company goes to Gotham as your story premise, I cannot emphasize this enough, HAVE HIM TEAM UP WITH RAGMAN!!!!!! I swear to God, have the snarky Ghost Boy interact with the character whose costume is literally filled with ghosts!!!!!!

*going back to the ectoplasm and Lazarus Pit idea, make Danny an avatar of The Black/ Rot. I would absolutely love to see him have to contend with the likes of Anton Arcane or come into conflict with Swamp Thing and Animal Man. Also having Swamp Thing present in the story would give a far more organic reason as to why John Constantine would be interested in this teenager with ghost powers.

So yeah I would kindly ask the people who are so insistent on producing crossover content of these two fandoms to actually do some interesting ideas.

And incidentally while we're on the subject matter, the fact that so much of Danny Phantom is directly inspired by Spider-Man and yet there's not really a lot of crossover between DP and Marvel properties is really really bizarre to me, especially because this website's user base purports to be such huge appreciators of the Spider-Verse films........

[strunmah-mah]

Does anyone else get annoyed by the constant need to Constantine in everything Zatanna appears in? Like he can appear without her, so why can't it work the other way around?

[maarigolds]

Crazy how much both Rhaenyra and Aegon's characters -and the fate of Westeros itself- are shaped by the fact that they are not Baelon.

Because even though Viserys preferred Rhaenyra, neither of them was ever truly enough for him: Rhaenyra is Aemma's child but she's not a boy, and Aegon is a boy but he's not Aemma's child. Viserys named Rhaenyra heir, but never changed the law that would have allowed her to be queen unchallenged. He refused to actually choose, because neither of them was who he had invisioned would sit on the throne after him.

Basically it was Viserys' inbility to love his children for who they were that doomed house Targaryen, and that's a hill i will die on.

(and Otto. It was also Otto)

[perfect-bi-paradise]

So I learned that popular long time bisexual comic book character John Constantines' bisexuality (John has been bi in DC Comics since 1992) has been erased by biphobic writer 'Si Spurrier'. His so called explaination for this erasure said he believed "bisexuality to not be inclusive of trans or nonbinary people", which is 100% FALSE. This biphobic and transphobic erasure is exactly why bisexual visibility month exists.

In response to this outright biphobia a Change petition was create. Please feel free to click the link and sign it and let bisexual voices be heard!

[agent371]

Me watching the batfamily fans completely mischaracterise my favourites on the rare occasion they remembered that other characters existed: 😞

[whereserpentswalk]

The souls of the tyrants, Emperor Constantine, General Cortez, and Pope Urban II, facing consequences in their afterlives. Devotional art to Hel. Happy indigenous peoples day.

[oliver-stark-lover]

Instead of sending an anonymous thing insulting me for being a fan of nicholas galitzine and Ryan guzman , maybe just say it publicly.

Nicholas Dimitri Constantine Galitzine does not hang out with the cast of The Idea Of You anymore ( or so that we know of ) . Simon's actor is a zionist yes but at the same time, I'm also a fan of Taylor Zakhar Perez who's best friend is a zionist as well ( Joey King). No one gets upset I'm Taylor's fan

Ryan Guzman has since dropped that ex-wife, and guess what? Aisha Hinds and Angela Bassett ( POC, may I add ) both forgave him for standing up for his EX WIFE

So, if you don't like that I'm a fan of those three , block me

[lialavey]

ANTI-HERO >>> SUPERHERO

I believe in revenge.

[tanglepelt]

Dc x dp idea 26

Inspired by atla

Danny was unable to stop the ghost king from destroying amity in the ghost zone. Pariah declares earth will be his next conquest he needs more skeleton soldiers bound to him.

He rips open a portal Danny rushes to the other side. He freezes the portal and him (not his plan) with ghost ice. Pariah freshly released is unable to open a secondary stable portal.

Rather then a full army. attacks only happen through natural portals. This bringing anger between the two dimensions at a all time high. Time continues. Danny stays frozen. Amity long forgotten.

As the attacks happen more then once technology is made to deal with threats. Nothing lethal more often then not the ghost return to the ghost zone when there attacks fail.

Unstable portals are now opening with more frequency. One day heros get a spike from amity and come investigate. When coming across the iceberg with a glowing green humanoid trapped one hero touched the ice.

It begins to melt. Danny falls out unfrozen. The glowing becomes more intense as the portal becomes visible through the ice. Somehow Danny while panicking manages to stabilize the ice which forces himself into his human half.

So now the justice league has to deal with feral Danny to stop pariah. Nobody is happy with the arrangement. Danny just wants to go off and fight. He doesn’t want to deal with learning how to use his powers.

It’s unfortunately up to the halfa to restore balance between the two dimensions.

They have until the ice melts to help the feral child master all his powers. So hopefully together they can save the world.

[proshipezreal]

hello again, and i must say sorry because i wasnt sure what ⭐ is... i thought its like a placeholder for name 🫣 now i know so⭐⭐⭐⭐ star

the game ive meant is this ↓

and also the actor for Bernie is Dylan Moran, irish comedian, very sweet person. and John is Keanu Reeves tho it might be obvious lol

so if you don't know what to do about them you don't have to force yourself!! im just looking for ways to get my ship out in the world cause maybe someone will like them

thank you again 🫣

No worries, it happens!! /gen

And ah, yes that name is familiar, thank you!! I recognized Keanu immediately however X3

⭐ + BERNARD/JOHN

These are based on the little blurb you sent in the other ask by the way :D

[wanderingmind867]

I don't get any of the appeal of Constantine. His comics scare me, he seems incredibly unlikeable, and he isn't even a charming mage. Where's the cloaks? The rhymes? The magical spells and incantations? He's just a drunk idiot who smokes. In essence, he's my maternal grandfather (except my maternal grandfather is at least kind and likeable; this guy isn't). I'm probably going to end up ostracising myself because of this, but someone had to say it. He seems awful, and I refuse to acknowledge his presence. I've said I don't love Zatanna's backwards spells, but I still prefer her over this guy. At least she's got flair and finesse. She's still not my favourite mage, but i'd rather watch her than watch this guy.

[fideidefenswhore]

Do we know what Luther, Calvin and other Protestant leaders thought about Anne Boleyn's guilt/innocence after her fall and execution? I read somewhere that Luther was against Katharine and Henry's divorce, but I also read that Luther thought that the rise of the Reformist Anne to the English throne was a good omen).

Do we know if they current Pope, or any of the main Catholic rulers (Spain, France, Portugal) made some comment about it?

Is free from the projected journey to England, for, after these tragic occurrences there, plans have greatly changed. The second Queen, more accused than convicted of adultery, has been executed. These vicissitudes denounce the anger of God against all men, and show him that their own misfortunes and dangers should be borne with resignation. Melancthon to Joachim Camerarius.

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Now Sir, because [the Quene] was such a favorer of God’s word […] I tell you few men would believe that she was so abominable[…] T. Amyot (ed.), ’A memorial from George Constantine’, in Archaeologica, 23 (1831), 50-78

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Afterwards, in the great chamber with the others, drew a parallel between the fall of Lucifer and that of queen Anne, congratulating Sir Francis that he was not implicated.

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Henry VIII, the League of Schmalkalden and the English Reformation, Rory McEntegart

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Couriers of the Gospel: England and Zurich, 1531-1558, Carrie Euler

Tudor and Stuart Consorts: Power, Influence, and Dynasty (2022)

"In the years following her death, Anne had few defenders. One of them, though, was Étienne Dolet, former French embassy secretary in Venice and practically minded commentator on diplomacy. In 1538, he published an epitaph for the queen ‘falsely condemned of adultery’. The news of Anne’s arrest travelled rapidly south through Europe. It must have been a shock to the men who had toiled for six years to achieve her marriage to Henry, but then political conspiracies and swift executions were far from rare in Rome." The Divorce of Henry VIII, Catherine Fletcher

I don't recall if Luther remarked on it specifically; although he did refer to her supplanter as an 'enemy of the gospel', so if one was so inclined, one could read into that...?

The Pope, iirc, mainly believed it presaged Anglo-Papal reconciliation (he was mistaken); Chapuys forwarded letters from Charles V where he expressed shock and horror at Henry's near-miss from regicide (whether he believed this himself or thought it was politic to express that he did...things that make you go hmmm), Mary of Hungary was skeptical yet essentially said she deserved to die regardless, so no great wrong was committed.

[sissa-arrows]

Algerian kids organizing a small march for Palestine in Constantine.

[npcemi]

The long road of how starting a fight with superman over clone parenting eventually lead to Danny Phantom become God Part 3: The history of the mirror born and self defense lessons for a teenage phantom

https://archiveofourown.org/works/47818321/chapters/121399486

 Constantine turned to look at Superman who was being helped to his feet by Wonder Woman and Batman.

“Clark how the absolute fuck did you manage to piss off the King of the Infinite Realms before we even sent a delegation to smooth things over with him, you absolute wanker!”

The three made their way back to the table as Constantine took out another smoke and toasted it off with a single inhale and ground the butt under his heel.

“Constantine, I would prefer you didn't smoke in here.” Superman chided.

“And I would prefer if the king of the infinite realms didn’t have a bloody vendetta against you, why is that Clark?” Constantine snapped punctuating Superman's ‘real’ name since he seemed to want to hand that out to any entity that managed to appear before him. Honestly, the man was lucky he hadn’t encountered any fair folk or djinn. Constantine sighed because it seemed to be he was one of the only people who understood just how fucking screwed they all were.

“He mentioned something about Conner,” the man of steel said, shaking his head with disdain.

“Conner?”

“Just some Clone Lex created to destroy me. He’s with the young justice team for now, I’ll handle the situation with him when I get the time.” Constantine didn’t like the tone or the insinuation of Superman’s words. He pitched the bridge of his nose in frustration, took a drink from his flask, and magically re-arranged some slides on the presentation.

“This was meant to be a footnote, but since it seems to have been the second biggest reason the big blue idiot has pissed off the King of the Infinite realms.”

“King?” Superman questioned.

“The spectral entity who put you through a wall.”

“The kid? Look he just needs a firm guiding hand and…”

“Shut the fuck up!” Constantine sent a spell to seal the Man of Steel’s mouth.

“Let me start with the fact, spectral entities don’t always look their age. Now let's get a move on with the lesson. Starting with the mirror born or clones as we mortals may know them. Do not insult the mirror born in front of any ectoplasmic entity. Poltergeists, spirits created by magic, or even lesser spirits may not have a problem since they may not come from the realms. However, ectoplasmic entities are a different story. They come from the infinite realms and have different cultures. They are also significantly more powerful than the aforementioned types of spirits.

Ectoplasmic entities are always unique, no two are exactly alike, ever. There are only four ways ectoplasmic entities can reproduce. Someone or something dies in a state of high emotions amongst a high concentration of ectoplasm or they don’t make it to their assigned afterlife and end up residing in the realms. Two they are naturally formed within the realms. This is how the most powerful entities in the realms are formed.

They are called many things, never born being a common one. It’s a bit of a misnomer really, but I digress. Archdemons and some types of angels are known to have formed this way.

Then there are the Primordial beings, they represent concepts like death, time, space, connection, etc. The third way is better left undiscussed as it's not good for mortal ears and imaginations.” Constantine looked like he was going to vomit at the thought of two ghosts somehow physically having sex and he’s had some interesting partners in his surprisingly long life.

The third is the creation of a mirror born. For ectoplasmic entities mirror born are beyond rare and nearly impossible to create. Two of the same being are not supposed to exist. In fact, as I or Dr. Fate could find there have only been three known mirror-born ectoplasmic entities.

The first is known as Anu. They were created from one of the first ectoplasmic entities, Anki. Anki created Enlil, a being associated with storms by the time humans came around. They are the embodiment of energy, force, connection, and authority.

It is said that Enlil split Anki into Anu and Ki. The first Mirror Born was created. Anu would become the sky that held all things. They would become the realms themselves. Ki would go on to become the earth, the first realm to ever exist. Some say that Anu was the first king of the infinite realms, others say it’s Enlil. It all became muddied with time. However, that is how the first two Mirror Born were created. Perfect mirrors of each other and the being they came from.

As you can see, it makes sense why ectoplasmic entities hold mirror born, or clones as you put it, in such a high regard.

One of the other reasons is that the Crown Princess Danielle Phantom, daughter of High King Danny Phantom is a mirror born.” After his explanation, Constantine’s eyes began to narrow at Superman.

“So by insulting Conner and calling him a thing, you not only insulted the King’s daughter to his face and you insulted the realms themselves.” The blonde magician laughed as he continued.

“That’s not even the worst of it before you even basically spat in his face. You Clark, did the one thing you are never supposed to do with a spirit and asked how he died, I’m honestly surprised you're still here to listen to me berate your dumb ass!”

Back at Fenton Works, Danny snuck through his bedroom window glad his meeting with the JL was over. That did not go how he expected, sure he expected Superman to not understand things and be still warming up to the idea of having a clone. However, he did not expect the man to be such an obstinate dick about the whole thing.

“Danny, you’re back, how did it go?” Danny looked up to see his sister Jazz. She must have seen the look on his face because her next question stopped the halfa in his tracks.

“Do you want to talk about it?” She said her face softened with worry.

“Can I have the hug?” Danny’s voice was barely audible as Jazz sat on the bed next to him and pulled him into a soft embrace cradling his head in the crook of her neck as he began to sob.

“I’m sorry…”

“You have no reason to be.”

“I’m sorry…”

“Shh, it will be okay,”

“I didn’t mean to die…”

“I know,”

“I didn’t know I would, it hurt so much when I, it hurt so much, I didn’t, I’m sorry Jazz…”

“It’s okay now Danny, I’ve got you, you're safe…”Jazz held Danny for over an hour. It took over an hour for Danny’s pain and sorrow to abate. Jazz knew there was only one reason Danny would act like this, why she knew he fought against the instinct that would cause any other ghost to lash out violently. She knew someone had broken one of the major taboos. Someone had done the unforgivable. They hurt her brother, her Danny whom she had basically raised since their ‘parents’ had started working on the portal. How dare they do this to him.

 After Danny had time to regain his composure, Jazz looked at her brother with a stone-cold bright green-eyed look that meant danger to anyone with a sense of self-preservation.

“Who?” Her voice was quiet, however, the growl came from the depths of her chest.

“Jazz it’s fine…”

“Danny!”

“Jazz, I promise it’s fine. I put him through a wall for asking.” Jazz knew her brother was being intentionally vague. Danny knew that she knew all of the contingencies they both created in case one of the major superheroes was possessed by one of Danny's enemies. The last thing the universe needed was a princess of the infinite realms to kill one of the world's most famous heroes in cold blood. Jazz didn’t care, if someone hurt her family, they forfeit mercy.

“hmmphf .” Jazz's curt response said she accepted Danny’s words, but would still act if she felt the need. Danny shrugged knowing he wouldn’t win this argument.

“Danny!” Danielle’s scream was heard as she floated through the ceiling and crashed into her father. Danny greeted her with a ruffle of her hair.

“How did it go with superman?” Dani asked

“I think he got the message.”

“Did you have to beat him up?” Dani air boxed with a wide smile to punctuate her point.

“Well, I threw him through a wall and gave him some time in the nightmare realm. I’m assuming he got the message.” Danny said to his daughter with a mischievous grin. What he didn’t see was Jazz’s eyes narrow at his words.

“What happens if Superman doesn’t get the message?” Jazz added in a suspiciously casual manner. Danny saw his daughter's face scrunched with worry.

“How about this, I’ll go to your next clone support meeting invisibly, and if Conner says there hasn’t been any improvement. I’ll go to Superman right afterward. How does that sound?” Danielle nodded her approval.

 “King Phantom!” Everyone turned to see an observant floating in the room.

“What do you want?” Danny snarled.

“You called upon the power of the realms and the crown of fire today. It could be felt across the realms!” The sentient eyeball accused.

“I did not!” The eyeball pulled out a mirror and it started to play,

‘Danny then turned to look at Constantine, “It looks like you just started your lessons on dealing with ghosts.” There was a distinctive change in Danny, his eyes were the biggest change. The sclera was bright green and his pupils were the darkest black that Constantine had ever seen. It was like they had absorbed all light leaving nothing behind. Like endless black holes.

“John Thomas Constantine, ̸̢̪̉t̵͉̩͊̌é̴͚a̴͔̥͆̂c̸̪̳̔͝h̷̖̞̃̎ ̶̢͔̅͐ę̸̘̈́̕v̸̝͙̈̊e̷̗͚͋ṙ̴̞̜y̸͕̤̒ǫ̸͕̉̔n̸̯̄e̵̥̠̓͗ ̷̢̧̄h̸̟͗o̴̺̩̅w̷̝͌ ̵͚̈́́t̷̖̍̀o̵̠͝ ̴͖̍͠ͅp̸̡̞̎̌r̸̞̝͋͘o̶̎̎͜p̵̰̉ͅę̶̛̔r̸̦̻̂ļ̷̳̏ÿ̷̭̺́ ̵͚̗̅͘ŕ̶͎̇e̷̛̯͊s̸͔̃̄p̸͘ͅe̵̢̘̍ĉ̷̺̜̄ţ̷͗̕ͅ ̷̩͉͆t̸̥͔̔̐h̸̻̊e̴̝͘̕ ̸͉́͂ ̸͓̱͌́a̴̢̓n̶̺̺͂̋c̸̗͋͜ị̶̀̀ḛ̷̭̀͊n̷̳͍̾t̸͓̭͠s̷̩͆͛.

 I suggest you start with etiquette.”

There was definitely another voice layered with Phantom’s, it was a feminine voice that was exactly a perfect fifth above Phantom’s own. Danny tilted his head and looked at the occultist with a grin that looked like a feral saber-toothed cat before disappearing. Constantine turned to look at Superman who was being helped to his feet by Wonder Woman and Batman.’

“You did the double voice thing!” Danielle giggled doing her signature spooky jazz hands.

“As you can see you did something so irresponsible, that could affect the entire realms!” The observant shouted as Danny held up a hand,

“First off I didn’t do that, and I don’t control what she does.”

“Are you saying you, the King, cannot do something as simple as control the crown of fire?” Danny was getting really frustrated with the eyeball. He wasn’t the only one. Everyone stopped to see Danny pause for a moment before he let out a small laugh.

“You and I both know no one controls the crown of fire,” Danny said before shrugging,

“Besides, you know for a fact that the Crown has less self-control than Danielle at that knock of taco bell in Colorado.” The observant made a noise that could only be described as a scowl. Danny turned to his daughter, “Do you still have your patented Fenton anti-creep spray?”

“Anti-creep spray?” The observant questioned as Danny began to line up Dani with the observant.

“It's a mix of pure capsaicin diluted in a 50/50 mix of ectoplasm and 99% isopropyl alcohol that is then put into a pressurized container.” Danny said as he guided Dani’s arm, “Remember what I said?” Dani nodded,

“Aim for the face, eyes, and move in a zigzag pattern.” Danny placed his hands on her shoulder.

“Good, now let her rip!” he said as Dani depressed the trigger on the can and the spray covered the entire observant’s eye.

The floating eyeball now bright red screamed running into the dresser, a chair, and several walls before disappearing.

[agent371]

if my art was that ugly, i’d be mad too

I know you're talking about my recent art post I made, and I'm taking this as a way to explain because I like talking, and for some reason, I can only get hate. So I make art, and I make TikToks, but the TikToks aren't of my art they are just silly.

My art takes hours, and if I spent that much time making a silly video, I would give up, so I do doodles to make videos, the silly doodles that aren't meant to be that good. I'm just getting my ideas out without losing interest. Can people not be silly anymore. Anyway, it's always the Tim Drake and Jason Todd fans that are the meanest . Sorry, your favourite characters suck.