#anti anael

[fandom-hoarder]

Also I'm just gonna take this opportunity to once again whine about how stupid the "Crowley keeps Lucifer out of the cage AND gives him a permanent vessel" storyline was. IDC how many desperate moves Crowley had been making or how much he may want revenge about the forced puppy play thing; it's RIDICULOUS to have the guy that once exclaimed about everyone underestimating the Winchesters---the guy who has already been betrayed over and over by his demons; the guy who already SAW how Lucifer manipulated himself out of the cage and many other traps---to suddenly GIVE HIM A PERMANENT VESSEL JUST TO PATHETICALLY CHAIN HIM UP TOPSIDE AND ATTEMPT HALFHEARTED PUPPY PLAY???

AND I just also have to gripe about all the retconning involved in this stupid fucking storyline, and the "somehow Emperor Palpatine returned" of Crowley saying "I found your old, discarded vessel" --- WHERE? And how did Lucifer not already know about it, since Nick would HAVE to say 'yes' again?!?!

And on THAT note, I FURTHER have to complain about the whole "vessels must somehow survive the angel blade" of Nick surviving Michael killing Lucifer in s13, when that has not at ALL been the case up until then. Like, I guess again if I'm EXTREMELY GRACIOUS it can be excused within the total woo of Crowley fortifying Nick's vessel, but it drives me CRAZY as far as lore sync goes.

But omg, at least Mark P's expressions are his own this whole time, and not an exaggerated caricature like Casifer. At least every time he's on screen I'm not going "OH MY GOD, I WANT TO STAB YOU IN THE FAAAACE! STOP MAKING THAT EXPRESSION! JUST PLAY THE FUCKING CHARACTERRRRRRR!" And same goes for Vinceifer. Even when he has his dramatic tantrum on the stage in Rock Never Dies, I was like, "Notice how he's not doing stupid shit with his face? He's just BEING LUCIFER??" And kiddo was like, "Yes, I do notice actually."

The only Lucifer that rarely feels like Lucifer is Casifer, and everyone that let him do that shit needs a tribunal, tbh.

Of course, we have yet to get to the Lucifer x Sister Jo/Anael portion of our rewatch, at which point I will be screaming about stabbing them both. For now, these exclamations are reserved for Ketch's stupidass face. (but that's not an acting thing I just hate his aesthetic ngl; he has a really punchable face--well maybe it's a little bit an acting thing cuz maybe that smugass look is an affect IDK, but I also don't find him aesthetically pleasing At All and his Thing with Mary makes me gag)

[rositaslabyrinth]

This is the face of the most “evil” woman ever btw

[godsprettiestprincess]

Going more in depth to this bc I’m stuck in traffic and have nothing but time: I know about the bunker, which means I advocate for cas and kevin to stay there full-time. Once they’re there, I work on talking everyone out of closing the gates of hell (based on the assumption that it would’ve locked spirits bound for it in the veil — presumably they know my info is good by now) to avoid both the metatron and gadreel debacle.

Once I’ve done THAT, it’s wife time. I scour the bunker for materials and spells that could get me in contact with Lucifer. I just want to talk to him for a while first and figure out how deeply he’s been cartoon-ified. Once it’s either been established that it’s not that bad or I’ve fixed him, I work on getting him out (I’ve been finding spells for Sam’s brain problems all this time as well, #win for white magic).

Realistically this goes wrong at some point (Dean finds out what I’m doing and I get shot) or my efforts to change things prove fruitless (metatron & gadreel bullshit happen anyway, this is my personal hell) — but a girl can dream

If you could pick a supernatural season to enter the show during in order to try and fix things (or make them worse lol your choice) which season would you pick? What would you do? And would you survive long enough to change things?

Oh this is SUCH a question. Ideally I would join in late s7/early s8 and try to avert the bullshit that comes with the tablets and the MOC (mostly by being Kevin’s advocate lolol) but uh. I would absolutely not live. I am far too visibly queer and far too mean to Dean Winchester.

[demonanddominion]

Anyone else had new thoughts on who Crowley was before the ‘fall’ since Season 2 aired…

I know the Raphael theory is still knocking about (actually had a weird epiphany regarding this last night so more of that later) but I think Crowley was an entirely different angel.

From Season 2 we now know he was a very powerful angel indeed (dominion, throne or greater) thanks to his classified document clearance in heaven, but also because of the seriously powerful miracle he and Aziraphale cooked up with very minimal effort.

After an initial idea and since doing some research, I’m leaning towards him being Samael, Angel of Death.

Now I don’t mean Samael as in the one who becomes Lucifer - there are many texts that see these as two separate entities, with Lucifer falling thanks to his pride and Samael… well did he even fall at all?

Samael is one of the Angels of Creation alongside Orifiel, Anael, Zachariah, Raphael, Gabriel and Michael. In Season 2 in episode 1 we see Crowley as an Angel playing a pretty big part in the creation of the cosmos, in collaboration with others.

Samael is the ruler of the Fifth Heaven, which happens to be Earth.

Samael is known as the “Venom of God” and is executioner of death sentences as decreed by God. He is the accuser, seducer and destroyer. As a seducer, Samael tempts humans into committing evil deeds. Through Samael, God tests humanity and the Archangel draws out the sinful and unrepentant, then God judges then and Samael destroys them.

In seducing humanity into acts of evil, Samael is just doing his job. He is both good and evil and is highly loyal to God’s word, doing his bidding without question - he mostly destroys sinners.

Samael is also the one who planted the Tree of Knowledge in the garden of Eden to tempt Adam. God however forbade Adam to touch it and punished Samael by banishing him. In retaliation, Samael took the form of the serpent and tempted Eve to eat the fruit from the tree.

When Abraham’s faith was tested by God and commanded to sacrifice his son Isaac, it was Samael who whispered in his ear to disobey.

So where does Crowley fit into this then? Well Samael hasn’t exactly ‘fallen’ from heaven, his angelic role took him down to Earth, performing deeds considered demonic and evil and his refusal to bow down to God’s creation led to his banishment. You could say he ‘sauntered vaguely down’?

We know from Season 1 that Crowley was the serpent that tempted Eve so he fits into the Samael theory there.

In Season 2 we see that Crowley had a ‘permit’ from God to destroy Job’s children and possessions to test his faith in God.

In Season 1, Crowley talks to God and says “I know you’re testing them, you said you were going to be testing them. But you shouldn’t test them to destruction. Not to the end of the world.”

So whilst Samael is an Angel, he very much has the role and characteristics of a demon and can be described as a fugitive or wanderer.

Regarding Samael planting the Tree of Knowledge, who else do we know with a bit of a plant fetish?!

Some other fun facts: Samael has red hair, and is associated with the planet Mars. He is also associated with the left side, the North and Tuesday.

It’s also said that Samael’s name shouldn’t be spoken aloud so as not to draw his attention - is this why Crowley chose a different name and doesn’t introduce himself to Aziraphale at the Horsehead nebula?

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So here’s the slightly scary part and if Crowley actually was/is Samael…

In the Second Coming (as was mentioned as Heavens next focus at the end of season 2) the messiah is supposed to deliver everyone from death and everyone will be resurrected. But he’ll do more than bring life, he’s supposed to bring an end to death itself, including the very concept of it. Without the finality of destruction, the Angel of Death (Samael) serves no purpose and is himself, annihilated. Thus, with death undone, Samael becomes the Anti-Christ.

Could season 3 see Aziraphale finally forced to make a choice between heaven and the one he loves?

[lightofraye]

Hi there!

Per request, I cropped your name.

I also sent you an apology privately for how long it'd taken me to get to this. Largely because it's just a depressing thing to talk about. Danneel is doing classic abuser techniques here--putting him down; humiliating him in front of others (when at cons like Wales Comic Con) or having him repeating negative stories at cons himself; continuously finding fault with him; making him feel like the foolish one; disregarding his thoughts and/or emotions; and using sarcasm to cause harm.

Imagine having your own spouse, your partner of what... 17 years?... saying "You'll do" when they're stanning other, wealthier actors and stars. Like, wow. Consolation prize? Thanks? As though she didn't force his hand into proposing to him. Mind, Jensen even said she laid down an ultimatum--propose or she walked. That's love, for sure!

Imagine landing no less than three shows with Amazon and a regular guest starring appearance on a major broadcaster... and still being told "Not impressed". God. That's painful.

He may likely be so busy that despite what some AAs are saying ("It's only 1.5 hour flight to home!"), he might not even fly back home all that much. Why would he? For his kids? Absolutely. For his so-called loving wife? Not so much.

Have you noticed in that clip, Jared had to stop Jensen from rambling? Because he was listening to his friend and brother in all but blood put himself down repeatedly, hearing how his friend's wife is being emotionally abusive... in public, no less. I can't even imagine how Jared feels about this.

Mind, Jared knew Danneel before Jensen did (or so Danneel claimed). Ever notice how they barely ever hang out in the past? If all four of them--Jared, Gen, Jensen and Danneel--did hang out, Jared was rarely spotted with her. He knew what kind of person she was and wanted nothing to do with her.

Even Gen barely engaged with Danneel. Oh, Gen was friendly and warm in public--I'm reminded of that one live video where Gen praised Danneel's acting as Sister Jo/Anael on Sueprnatural and the look Danneel gave her... Danneel knew Gen didn't mean it.

Getting sidetracked here.

I know a lot of anti Jensens won't agree with me here, and that's all fine. We're allowed different opinions. Even those who are "Jensen critical" would disagree as well. Also fine. What I'm about to say next is my own personal opinion, speculation, and observation.

As I've mentioned before, I'm a survivor of abuse. From childhood onward, I've endured a variety. Emotional neglect, physical abuse, even sexual abuse as a child. That wrecks people. Because we're experiencing abuse from the hands of people who should love us. So if our own parents, siblings, relatives, whatever, are hurting us... we start to think: "Did I do something to deserve this mistreatment? Am I such a horrible person?"

And if that isn't corrected--and too often childhood survivors are overlooked and ignored, not able to get the help they desperately need, they often develop and grow into insecure adults with low self-esteem and low self-value.

One very common refrain will ring in their minds: "I am unworthy and undeserving of love."

This is where I feel Jensen's issues stem from. He was exploited by his parents for their gain and profit. Modeling, acting, often told by his father he's being punished out of love (thus creating a negative association of what love really is), and likely surrounded by a lot of people who use him for their gain and profit.

I can't speculate on the relationship between his parents, but what little I've heard and seen of Alan Ackles, it doesn't sound like a healthy example either.

If you don't know what a healthy relationship looks like, or experience it yourself... one struggles a lot. It's how generational trauma is created. My paternal grandfather... was abusive. Emotional and... otherwise (there's a massive skeleton in that closet that left me floored when I discovered it). My own father continued it. I'm determined to break it and I think I've largely succeeded. No, I didn't have a healthy relationship, but I grew strong enough to know what I had wasn't it.

I'd rather be single than in an unhappy relationship. Unfortunately, for so many survivors and victims, it's never easy. Because the voices in their head parroting the fears back to them lie.

It's sadly easier to say "Oh. That person made that choice! It's their own damned fault they're unhappy!" Or "They're the ones who stay!" It's easier to judge than it is to admit that it's not a cut-and-dry situation. That breaking the emotional abuse cycle, that breaking free from abuse in general, is never, ever easy.

I speak from experience. I lost quite a few friends because they actually thought I wanted to stay, or that I was being unreasonable in my fear. Not once did they bother to reach out and try to understand from my end.

"Oh just leave!"

No... it's never easy to "just leave".

Jensen's trapped in a very vicious cycle right now. He finds it easier to put himself down and think he deserves it, than to admit that he's in a situation that he could leave. It's scary to leave. It's the unknown. It's easier, in so many ways, to live with the pain we know than the pain we don't.

Danneel knows it, feeds on it, uses it.

I rambled on a lot. I appreciate your ask and your compassion for Jensen.

Thank you for reading.

[starry-night-flights]

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[hologramcowboy]

I think anyone who is in a failed marriage would feel envious of healthy and happy ones. (Regarding Elta and Gen) but at the same Danneel probably couldn’t give a shit as long as her bank account remains full. Who needs a happy marriage when money can buy you all the happiness in the world?? 🙄

What was her one dimensional, flopped character on SPN's line? "Prada, Gucci, Dolce & Gabbana" They wrote for her and so they made the character just like her.

[aknife-no]

Hate Sister Jo even more the second time around

Sorry not sorry

[fandom-hoarder]

I can't fucking stand Anael because seeing her face makes me think of retcons and I wanna punch it😔

[rositaslabyrinth]

One chance Danneel that’s all I’m asking🙏🙏 #needthat

[rositaslabyrinth]

She could fix me.

[rositaslabyrinth]

Are we sure Danneel ackles isn’t also a girl kisser because she looks like she enjoys kissing other women in her roles a little bit to much

[rositaslabyrinth]

Producer Danneel come homeeee the kids miss you🙏🙏

[rositaslabyrinth]

Idc if no one posts edits on here🙏🙏 I needed to post this #yearningforher

[rositaslabyrinth]

I just saw the most insane take EVER on Danneel but I choose to protect my peace by not posting what the person said because atp it’s not even worth arguing about

[fandom-hoarder]

Shouldn't really have an opinion on oth reboot, except that I never watched the og anyway and it's not on my to watch list lol. Especially not after seeing ms retcon!angel in spn. 😏 like, good luck with that, y'all

In other news, why is my filter not working? Oh, I see. Ok. Tag added.