#anti Hiruzen

[sourinartt]

I can always be corrected, but at least in Og naruto, there is no adult who truly cares about naruto except for Iruka

although, despite Iruka having terrible thoughts or discomfort, he continued to be with naruto, even inviting him to eat to pass the time because naruto didn't have anyone at home to wait for him

through mizuki and those women we see that the villagers really don't like him, mizuki even uses him for his plans causing people to hate him more for his "theft"

after those scenes my favorite scene happens; the first person to protect naruto in fact, iruka, is the only adult who apologizes to naruto for thinking in a terrible way about him

hiruzen can talk about how much people hate naruto but does nothing to change things, even though he has the power to make people change their thoughts. We also see that he doesn't care if naruto eats and drinks well, sleeps in a set place, etc.

All this despite the fact that kushina, naruto's mother, has asked him to take care of her son, it would be a favor for everything minato gave her the village, but hiruzen really isn't interested in this at all.

then there is kakashi who knows how naruto lives, he knows that he doesn't eat well, that people hate him, he even talks about it to Inari to calm he sadness

which is funny that he knows and doesn't do anything, isn't naruto his sensei's son? well, he doesn't really care because he's focused on following sasuke and leaving Naruto with a sensei who hates him

he loves naruto so much that he chooses not to train him (despite being his sensei) to continue with sasuke and leaves him with a man who despises him.

could we talk about how he also abandoned sakura? In another post.

and we conclude with Jiraiya, this guy refused to train naruto, despite almost killing the sensei

chooses to train him after naruto sexualizes himself, turning into a young, naked girl. *disgusted*

We later learn that Jiraiya becomes an important person for naruto, but this doesn't mean that Jiraiya was always trying to make naruto become a pervert like him, Looking for him to read his sex books. he didn't even train him well beyond his rasengan...🤦🏻‍♀️

[gluestickv]

I COME BEARING GIFTS!! (Naruto memes/text posts I made part 2 hehe)

Yes I do, infact, think I am funny

[mazzikns]

Hiruzen raising Naruto

[the-real-sasuke-uchiha]

There are no good hokages. Not a single one. Hashirama enabled his racist brother knowingly, and let him perform his deranged jutsu experiments. Hiruzen was a fully aware accomplice of a genocide instigator and let him roam free with no punishment. Minato did nothing against the oppression of the Uchiha and made a nuke out of a baby. Tsunade turned her head away from Danzo's conspiracies, it was under her rule that Danzo aimed at Sasuke's life when he was doing nothing against Konoha. Kakashi and Naruto swept a genocide under the rug and had genocide instigators working for them.

There isn't a single good one. All of them are criminals. All of them are guilty.

[thermodynamic-comedian]

the way hiruzen specifically talks about kid orochimaru is so reminiscent of irl abusive parents talking about their mentally ill children. "i should've known there was something wrong with you", "i tried my best to raise you right, but it clearly didn't work", it's all very...parent refusing to take accountability for the role they played in raising their child, instead pushing the blame onto the child. y'know. i just think hiruzen was the type of parent to claim that his 5 year old child was "manipulating" him by crying.

[adhdnojutsu]

"Do you possess the Will of Fire, Itachi?"

I think it's more like the Will of Fire possessed him, but...

[vulpisnocturna]

You are the Hokage. You see this 5yr old orphan crying. Do you:

A) Give him proper housing, food, enough money to live comfortably and a proper caregiver

B) Teach him how to do his taxes properly (he always gets it wrong!!! so annoying!)

C) Give him 20£ a month and make him rely on the kindness of some random villager (it will be hard to find one who doesn’t hate his guts!). Alternatively, watch him eat spoiled food and 99p pot noodles

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[bimgtt]

True Uchiha clan not that bulshite shown in the Boruto series so called fake Uchiha pathetic historically ignorant family( Sakura and Sarada who treat clan crest some sort of ornaments or achievements or trophy to brag about or show off for them without knowing its struggle and past history and how you get to wear it) or how the story tries to revise Uchiha tragedy and the oppression and racism against the Uchiha collectively.

[thesauce8]

“Hiruzen is overhated”

Erm no, he’s underhated. There can never be too much hate for that man.

I cannot stand when people try to make him out to be some victim. “He didn’t know 🥺🥺” He covered it up. He let Danzo get away with murdering an entire clan. He is the hokage; his job is protecting his villagers. He failed to address the situation with the Uchiha, and it led to this. His inability to assist an oppressed clan resulted in that clan being wiped out. The Uchiha suffered for his own incompetence, so no, he doesn’t deserve pity.

[naruversemisa]

what was Hiruzen’s entire purpose??

genuinely what was hiruzen doing during his entire reign as hokage because i feel like he contributed nothing but negative things during his hokage run

like hashirama built the village, united the clans and brokered peace during the first shinobi war

i always assumed tobirama was the one doing most of the law making and legal shit while hashirama was hokage since tobirama was the one to install the uchiha as konoha’s police and that he continued to do it as hokage himself on top of all the jutsu he was making and the students he was teaching

minato kinda died before he could do much but even then he saved the village from a rampaging kyuubi and presumably helped end the third shinobi war before taking the hat

as a healer, a senju, and a sannin tsunade being hokage right after an invasion killed the last hokage makes sense to me, her reign as hokage’s main purpose was to act as a sort of symbol that konoha is still strong, she mostly made sure that konoha maintained its strength (political and military) and was readying konoha for war to minimize damage

kakashi being a huge part of the war front in the fourth war and his general fame just naturally leads to him being hokage after the fact, kinda like tsunade, he was more of a symbol and placeholder, his main focus as hokage was to ready the position and the village for when naruto took over

and the village seems pretty much like paradise during naruto’s reign if you ignore his own family and interpersonal drama in boruto (i wouldn’t know i didn’t watch it), he’s a well known and respected figure in his own right that united the elemental nations against a common enemy and has maintained that political peace ever since

literally all hiruzen did as hokage was be an idle figurehead while danzo did a bunch of shady shit with his power

[madaras-tits]

Hiruzen naming his grandchild Konohamaru is glossed over way too much. Like. Fucking, really? You're naming your ONLY grandchild after THE VILLAGE YOU LEAD. Thas crazy imagine going to your new job and Joe Bidens grandson is there and his name is AMERICA. WHAT.

[nardo-headcanons]

About Shisui Uchiha

just some shower thoughts i had about him. this is very headcanon heavy and rather vague at times.

tw for talks about suicide, manipulation, trauma, abuse, etc

tagging: @uchihaharlot @pxssy-stuntin-for-itxchi @lalalover33-blog @burning-bubble @naruto-scribblings-j

Unlike Itachi, who was born during the last year of the great Shinobi war, it is safe to say that Shisui was born while it was still going on. So naturally, he was exposed to the worst side humanity had to offer, most likely traumatizing him in the process.

His mother is never mentioned, so I assume she must have died during his birth or in his early childhood. His father, most likely ravaged by illness before he even entered the battlefield, lost his left leg, leaving him with phantom pains and high medical bills. As a born shinobi, Shisui’s father lacked the funds and education to pursue any other path of career, leaving his child as the only breadwinner of his family. Shisui probably had to spend his entire childhood and youth slaving away just to keep his father and himself afloat. Additionally, he took care of a terminally i’ll man who didn’t even remember his son’s name. Of course, this would lead to Shisui being very perceptive of the psychology of the ones around him, how else could he search for a sign of his father’s state health changing?

Shisui often spent time wondering what it’s like to have a family, a family in which he is allowed to be what he is: a child. Someone who is cared for, someone who is looked after. Despite being an Uchiha, his relation to Kagami Uchiha - the Uchiha allied with Tobirama, the very person planting the seed for all the discrimination the Uchiha would face, up to a point of their genocide, would probably lead him to feel ostracized within his own clan. And like everyone of us, he is trying to find the balance between individuality and belonging - the latter being the one he lacked. His abilities as an Uchiha become a defining factor of identity for him, leading to him being willing to let a comrade via withholding aid - just on the basis of that comrade potentially being stronger than him. Once his comrade dies, the young Uchiha is ravaged by feelings of guilt, by the awareness that the blood of his friend is on his hand.

But nevertheless, he is blessed with a new Uchiha ability - the mangekyou sharingan. His entire life he had to enter a role he didn’t want to be in, robbing him of memories he could have had. So what better mangekyou ability to have than the one that alters memories, and, in extension, alters your role in the world?

Shisui’s resentment against his Uchiha identity starts bubbling up inside him again, and being a shinobi who frequents B- or even A-Rank missions as a literal teenager (how else would you pay for your father’s medical debt as a shinobi, eh?) he was closer to the village from the start. Hailed as the strong and talented Uchiha boy, taking on missions to serve his village, behind the facade a broken kid forced to grow up way too quickly. His first serious doubts begin when he is forced to kill Mukai Kohinata, a direct reflection of Shisui, just the other way around: a father wanting nothing but funds to care for his dying child.

Things don’t get better when the tension between the village and the Uchiha rise. His own brethren or the collective - who will you support? Getting into Shisui’s mind and twisting his perception of what’s right is an easy game for Danzo, almost too easy. A civil war breaking out in Konoha would be a repetition of his initial trauma - the one thing Shisui wants to prevent the most. Shisui starts feeling conflicted, until he finally stumbles upon THE miracle solution: forcefully keeping up the status quo by manipulating the leader of the revolution - an unpleasant reality, but better than the Uchiha clan’s extermination or a civil war breaking out, right? To Shisui, atleast. And honestly, who could blame him? As a ninja who graduated young, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that he lacks the methodical and critical thinking outside of the parameters of violence and manipulation he is used to from Danzo and the shinobi world.

And then it happens. He agrees to suppress the revolution of his own ethnic group just for the sake of keeping up a false sense of peace, and suddenly, his co conspirators, the man that is supposed to be guarding him, leading him, suddenly abandons him and steals his eye? Shisui’s entire identity as the Uchiha boy from Konoha collapses and he doesn’t know what to think or believe anymore. In his last moments, he becomes aware of the utter pointlessness of the killing and the brutality of the shinobi system, the sheer feeling of powerless overwhelming him. At this point, death seems like a sweeter option than continuing to live powerlessly in such a system.

Shisui is a skilled ninja, but not always in contact with his emotions. Therapy is a rarity in the leaf, with even the counselors themselves not being able to give advise outside of the parameters of what’s “acceptable” in the hidden leaf.

So, what better way to hide your agony than behind a -albeit manufactured- goofy smile?

[sannin-three]

Imagine if part of Orochimaru seeking immortality is specifically so that they never have to see Hiruzen ever again. I'd completely understand tbh!

[the-real-sasuke-uchiha]

Kakashi learns that his student is a victim of state-sanctioned genocide, finds him in a completely unstable state of mind, bleeding in excruciating pain from having his whole family and culture exterminated. You won't believe who he empathises with.

[thermodynamic-comedian]

and honestly i do blame hiruzen for like 60% of how orochimaru turned out cuz imagine seeing a grieving orphan by their parents' grave and going "aha dw you'll see them again soon enough" and then just. not elaborating. like of course this deeply fucked up child is going to interpret that as "death is not permanent and everybody comes back from the dead". why wouldn't they

[adhdnojutsu]

Merry Christmas from Santa Hiruzen and 2 somewhat distrustful Uchiha babies! Thanks for all the support this year!

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