#andor thoughts

[giveamadeuschohisownmovie]

I don’t know if this counts as a hot take or not, but does anyone else feel that “Andor” is the geekiest of the four live-action Star Wars shows? I know that sounds strange since Andor is the most serious of the four and features the least cameos/easter eggs, but hear me out.

Mando, Boba, and Obi-Wan we’re definitely going for more of the nostalgia factor with the cameos and easter eggs. But Andor, because the show is so serious, feels like an actual exploration of the Star Wars universe. They actually took the time to explain the stuff that we would just see in the background, such as the mapping system, how civilians live on Coruscant, and the various factions of the Rebel Alliance. Also, the series managed to blend in aspects of the Prequel and the Original Trilogies in a way that feels natural. The show doesn’t call out stuff from either trilogy (“Hey look fans, it’s Mon Mothma! Clap that she’s here!”), they just treat the Star Wars universe as any other fictional universe.

I guess what I mean is that Mando, Boba, and Obi-Wan, at times, feel like they were written by an exec who wanted to cash in on people’s nostalgia for Star Wars, whereas Andor feels like it was written by a genuine fan who spent years developing the lore for the universe.

[jonkeli]

This picture in the Andor season 2 teaser video really caught my eye.

[folklorist-word-florist]

Why Write

Notes to self (but maybe for you, too)

"I always wanted to be lifted. I was always eager, always waiting to be inspired. I remember every time it happened, every time the dead lifted me... with their truth. And now I am dead. And I yearn to lift you. No because I want to be shine or even be remembered. It's because I want you to go on." ---- Maarva's Speech, Andor

How to Leave Home, For My Daughter Find a sacred square of earth. Lay down, so you have the dirt at your back. Close your eyes. Close everything. Do you see for yourself? You see for the dead, for the unborn. Do you listen for yourself? You listen for the dead, for the unborn. Your ancestors are in that dirt. All the living and all the dead are holding you up. Now stand. ...Now it's time to move, to entangle yourself everywhere with everyone. So the next time you lay down on the dirt, You will have so much more to tell them. ---- from the game Season: A Letter to the Future

[repressedromantic]

Andor episode 10 is a f***ing ✨masterpiece✨

[skywalkersolos-blog]

Okay. The storyline in Andor about Kenari. I keep on seeing that many people think it was dropped without any solution or real answer about what happened. So hopefully it will be answered in second 2 of Andor.

But what do we know about the planet Kenari?

It's the homeworld of Cassian (Kassa) Andor and his sister Kerri who lives with other orphaned children's within the forest. Apparently they ended up living this way on the planet due to plunderers that tried to use mining on the planet.

According to the star wars wiki Kenari is rich in valuable Mineral deposits. And due to the planet Mid Rim this left the planet without protection to anyone that could end up wanting the Minerals.

The thing about Kenari which is important to keep in mind is that Cassian (Kassa) doesn't understand the basic language within the star world world when he first met Maarva and Clem (which is surprising) because almost every planet we've been to has always speaks or understand the basic language.

What happened to the parnets?

They were most likely enslaved and forced to work in the mines to get the Mineral. Or they tried to fight against the invaders and failed. But I'm aiming more to the slave idea because it would make since as to who the children are still alive without any adults.

Plus, no one on the planet knows Basic Language which would make it impossible for commutation and keep the people to Kenari easier to control.

Remember how Cassian (Kassa) reacted as a child when seeing B2EMO it would seem he has never seen a droid before, but their is mining material on the planet. But what if he has seen a droid before and that's why he seems nervous of it because the people used droids to control the Kenari people to work.

Even though Clem and Maarva end up taking Cassian with them later on, we never get to see his full reaction within the show to being taken. (So this slave theory is possible to think about)

At some point the mining accident happened. The kids end up going to live in the forest. But according to people that planet has toxic air. But it's never stated if the toxic air was their after the mines or after the ship landed and let out the yellow gas into the air because I have a feeling that Cassian actually knows the truth to this part.

Why would the Empire cover this planet up?

Remember how I wrote that the planet has rich in valuable Mineral. That's because these Minerals are used according to Leia for stormtrooper armor. Any planet rich in Minerals can be used for the trooper armor.

Plus, due to Cassian being nine when the show Andors flashback starts it's close to the Clone Wars (24 BBY). It was either a frame job by the separatists to make their factions and other planets think the Republic did this to the planet.

But their is a problem with this. Because the Clone army wasn't know to anyone in 24 BBY. But that wouldn't mean that Separatist would still have some information thanks to Dooku knowing most of Palpatine's plan.

But no one can be sure.

But if the Empire is still saying the planet has toxic air in the current timeline because they need to the Minerals to create the trooper armor.

But the main question is; Did Cassian ever return to his home planet after being taken by Clem and Maarva?

I feel like he would've gone back and see if what Maarva was saying was true. But their are rumors of Kenari people being in the galaxy if Cassian is chasing down rumors.

So clearly some did leave, or they were enslaved and taken off world. Or they were saved and places into loving homes.

Either way I guess Cassian did return and found something. He's either choosing to forget and block it out from what he saw which is why Maarva tells him that his sister is dead. It wouldn't be the first time that a character in any show chose to block out the memories of finding a loved one dead.

Or he found signs that his sister was taken off world.

Why was Maarva asking Cassian who he told about his home planet?

It's the oddest scene in Andor. Maarva doesn't know how the Empire found out Cassian was from Kenari. It doesn't seem like a thing he would've told anyone expect for Bix, who seems to be his closest friend.

But then she demanded if Cassian told his women. In other worlds he's ben sleeping around, but again, I don't see why it would matter because I highly doubted he would tell anyone about his home planet on a one night stand.

Unless Cassian has a brand or a mark which we aren't shown within the show on his skin that a woman that he is sleeping with would ask about.

[thecleverqueer]

Cassian in Rogue One: Do you think that anybody’s listening?

Jyn Erso: I do. Someone’s out there.

This movie hit when I watched it the first time. It hit hard. But, now that I’ve watched Andor, shit hits even harder. Damn. Tony Gilroy is a genius.

Ugh…. Someone get me a Kleenex….

[claudiagray]

If you’re interested in reading my very lengthy, very detailed review of Andor,” maybe take a peek at my Patreon? Hopefully this is just the first of many! 

[somanywords]

wow rogue one is really a love letter to the unnamed fighter. no act of help is too small, every deed causes a ripple. luke showed up to blow the death star, and there was the plan to do it--countless of people died to get him that, and luke knows none of them. how many rebel planes get shot down every battle? how many civilians die in explosions? how many died to get the plans to luke? rogue one says you. and you and you and you. every one of you. what will come of it? who knows. something.

[sen-art-acc]

im 8 years late with this......

[skyshipper]

HAPPY STAR WARS DAY! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

[ex0rin]

Brasso & Cassian Reunited | Andor S01E12: Rix Road

[ireallyamabear]

[padmestrilogy]

the acolyte shares plenty of weaknesses with the rest of star wars (broad dialogue, some odd pacing, and as of late: that disney sheen) but it also has some of star wars’ best fights in ages, a fresh roster of characters, and plenty of good choices + ideas, which makes it disheartening to see it so violently rejected by the same people who hooted and hollered for any kenobi flashback

[infamouslydorky]

I feel as though casual misogyny in not having many favorite female characters over male characters and the fact that many female characters aren't written well and made to service male character development in most mainstream media are two ideas that can coexist

[intermundia]

so i am a jar jar binks apologist. like, let's get the obvious complaint out of the way. we all agree that the accent was a regrettable and distracting mistake that is hard for many to overlook for valid reasons. but if you are willing to set that issue aside and think about the character's function in a broader context of the trilogy, i think you'll agree that he is very necessary to communicate the tone that lucas wants, especially in the phantom menace.

the phantom menace is the first in the prequel trilogy, and by necessity for the overall three part story structure, it is childish, bright and whimsical, sweet and hopeful with an underlying malice that will only grow. anakin is still just a boy, a kind and generous and playful boy, who lives in a galaxy that is not yet twisted by war. the movie communicates this in a variety of ways, through the color story of the film, through the music, through jokes, through jar jar.

remove jar jar and you have a different film entirely, you know? he is an essential part of the mixture. he lightens every scene he's in, a necessary clown, with slapstick and low humor, to adulterate the high drama of the political world. his role gets smaller and smaller over the course of the trilogy, as the world dives into suffering and strife. he's forced into a respectable position, forced to play along with the adults, unfit for his position but doing his best, but his innocent clownery in phantom menace is essential first.

like do i wish ahmed best was able to use a different accent that would have drawn less ire? of course. do i wish jar jar gone? absolutely not. i like the genre of star wars, it's a silly and sublime space opera, high drama mixed with little jokes, watchable and fun, and the entire dramatic arc of the prequels depends on the gold and green of the phantom menace ending up in red and black on mustafar. without the warmth and humor of jar jar, the later tragedy wouldn't hit so hard.

[giveamadeuschohisownmovie]

I’m gonna be honest. The more I think about it, the more I’m believing that the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy could’ve been better than the Original Trilogy if the script was tighter (a lot tighter). But George needed to let other people handle the script and he needed way more help with bringing his vision to life.

I mean, just think about it. The OG trilogy was a fairly straightforward, good vs evil storyline. Jedi and Rebels good, Emperor and Sith bad. Amazing storyline, but fairly simple. In comparison, the Prequel trilogy is far more complex in terms of what it was trying to achieve. If you look past the shitty dialogue and questionable storyline choices, the story that George came up with deals with:

1) Duty vs. Desire (Anakin trying to remain a Jedi but wanting to pursue Padme)

2) Questioning the Jedi Code instead of just blindly accepting it as gospel. Because despite how much Anakin was struggling with his complicated emotions, the Order doesn’t notice. In fact, the Order encouraged him to bury his emotions, which we see led to disaster since that led him right to the Dark Side.

3) An actual attempt at more complex politics rather than just evil empire versus good resistance. For example, it’s a meme that Anakin made an argument in favor of fascism, but in the hands of a better writer, that could’ve been a really good moment. We get an idea of why the Empire would have its supporters, despite being the obvious bad guys. It humanizes the Empire in a way that it doesn’t make you sympathize with them, but makes you understand how someone could end up on that path. That’s more true to life than just evil people being evil. (Andor is probably the one Star Wars media that understood this, which is partly why it’s one of the best Star Wars content out there)

4) The hero is genuinely a tragic character. He’s a child prodigy who was freed from slavery with the promise of a better life. But as he grows up, he becomes frustrated with how his life is turning out. He’s powerful, but not powerful enough to save his mom. He falls in love, but can’t be with Padme since it’s against the Jedi Code. Obi-Wan looks over him, but Anakin doesn’t feel he’s respected. The Order assigns him dangerous mission after dangerous mission, but he doesn’t get the rank of master. Anakin’s arc is about a man who feels like he’s not in control of his life (which is doubly sad when you remember he grew up in slavery) and, in his lowest moment, turns to a man who claims to be able to give Anakin everything he’s ever wanted. And that becomes his downfall since he ends up losing way more than he gained.

I’m sorry, but, that storyline is way more interesting than Luke and Leia’s story. No offense to Luke and Leia, but their dad’s story sounds like a Shakespearean tragedy. What messed it up was that George Lucas needed someone else to write the script.