#and the euron of it all????
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i genuinely need someone to make an au of what would happen if balon would have SOMEHOW won the wotfk
#imagine crown prince theon#slash crown princess asha#imagine the greyjoy family drama#imagine the drowned gd becoming the main worshipped deity#and the euron of it all????#i need to know if someone has already made this#asoiaf#house greyjoy#theon greyjoy#balon greyjoy#asoiaf au
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Normally, kinslayers are limited to at most a couple of fratricides, filicides, and matricide/fratricide before having to move on to lame shit like cousin killing. Overcome this limitation with one weird trick...
#emperor belos#phillip wittebane#toh#the owl house#all i got is jokes about kinslaying#euron greyjoy ass post#posting#sure clone your brother then kill him over and over again. very normal behavior.
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what if while theon was hostage, maybe before, euron came up and was like "hey balon it;s me your creepy ass wizard brother,. yeah i can see the future, look, the northmen are going to make that kid their bitch. he's gonna serve them like a dog. he's not going to be a man when they're done with him" and balon just believed him and it wouldn't even be a lie.
#asoiaf#theon greyjoy#euron greyjoy#balon greyjoy#but in all seriousness#just looking at how euron strategically took out his competition#through a combination of violence yes but also manipulation#and balon is *so* against theon from the get-go....#i mean it's explainable by theon being a reminder of his failure in the rebellion#but it sure is convenient for euron that balon never even tried to establish theon as his heir#and euron seems like the type who would plan for that#cosmic horror in a pirate suit#doc
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One thing that always gets me, is Quellon Greyjoy. You got this ✨tall✨ scary dude who could have been a big fucking threat but decides to be a reformer. He tries to fix the reputation of the Iron Islands and the Greyjoys. And he dies in the most Ironborn way, in battle at sea, probably thinking at least "I did something to be proud of and the Islands are on the way to a better relationship with Westeros". But then his kids are literally an eldritch horror, a dumb thot, a religious fanatic and one short king and they just undo all of his work in like five mins. You cannot convince me that Quellon was not looking up from the depths of the Drowned God's watery halls like
#I just love the idea of Quellon just screaming in the afterlife because of his kids#Tywin is there too just catatonic over Cersei and Jaime &#the fact that Tyrion is actually impressing him in his whole Essos hot girl summer#Quellon Greyjoy#Nine sons born to this man and all disappointments#house greyjoy#asoiaf meta#Asoiaf#valyrianscrolls#a song of ice and fire#balon greyjoy#theon greyjoy#Asha Greyjoy#euron greyjoy#aeron greyjoy#victarion greyjoy#the iron islands#GRRM#grr martin
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Aeron & Theon - Views on each other
#aeron greyjoy#theon greyjoy#valyrianscrolls#asoiaf#house greyjoy#theon having to convince himself he is not weak .. sad!#aeron being terrifying to theon who hides it quite well to himself by focusing on his sinister attitude#(the only common point linking all the older men theon fears is the fact they do not smile (much) (for different reasons of course)...#except for euron probably ?#the irony of aeron thinking of theon as a “godless man”
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Daenerys could literally be the devil reincarnated and it is still infeasible for her to be the one to torch King's Landing;
A desperate Cersei (who is essentially a female!Aerys), a violent hord of religious zealots, two (rightfully) blood-thirsty sand snakes, the tyrells and lannisters about to be at each other's throats, shady Qyburn doing gods know what, are all IN King's Landing. A cocky would-be claimant is marching with deadly-infected, nothing-to-lose, bell-triggered Jon who-regrets-burning-a-city Connington TOWARDS it, and murderous crazy newly crowned Euron Greyjoy lusts for the Iron Throne.
Yet according to the ✨smart book experts✨all these plots will apparently freeze and these murderous hotheads will patiently wait for Daenerys to speed run through all of her essosi plots; travel to Vaes Dothrak, gather all the khalassars, travel to Meereen by horse pace, fight the war against the slavers, deal with Victarion, the Iron fleet and the Dragonbinder, deal with Viserion and Rhaegal being loose, Quentyn's death and his remaining companions, Yunkai and its allies, burn the dead from the pale mare and the war, divide fiends from foes, which the later includes her husband and the Green Grace (tho both could be dead by the time Daenerys returns) meet Red Priest Moqorro and Maester Marwyn, hear about Azor Ahai and the Others, meet Tyrion Lannister, face Jorah Mormont again, hear from Illyiro and Varys's many schemes, mend the wounds of her people, get a large enough fleet to carry her host somewhere and cross half of the world (a journey for which Tyrion and Quentyn needed an enitre book) with a bus stop at Volantis, where she will likely meet Benerro and The Widow At The Waterfront and council the slave revolt, etc... so she is The One™ to barbecue King's Landing since *checks note*... itS sO SUbvErsIve, but also; iTs bEen bUilT uP to ThAT sInCe Aegon’s Conquest. 🤡
#the audacity#asoiaf#asoiaf meta#✨vent time✨#fandom wank#daenerys targaryen#fuck dany antis#the experts in question; 🐢dumbkween 🦋 and ms. lannister"(dAny wiLl chOse- BITCH I know this must be really hard to grasp for someone that#lack basic reading comprehension but SHE ALREADY DID THAT LIKE 482 TIMES)#also another brand new concept; P A C I N G (ever heard of it?)#like OMG can one dany anti FOR ONCE make basic commen sense?#not all idiots are dany antis but (apparently) all dany antis are idiots#watch them change KL to Oldtown the way these 🤡s changed the water garden to KL#In these speculations Jon Connington and (f) Aegon either just seemed to sit in the Stormlands forever or need three years to get to King's#Landing. OR they conquered the 7K in 2 months no biggie. Euron just endlessly floats in the ocean#Cersei will just look out of a window for#84 years OR die IMMEDIATELY. The sand snake the zealots the two hostile armies just magically disappear or become brainless pawns.
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maybe it's because I'm in the "I'm so obsessed and hyperfocused on my little guys I will make any song seem like it's about them even if it couldn't be any father from actually relating to them at all" stage of my Theon and Asha hyperfixation but like...
I feel like 'I bet on losing dogs' by Mitski is about them.
it's about Asha and her relationship with Theon.
he's her baby brother. the baby brother who looked up at her smiled when she had gone in his room, intent on strangling him to stop his cries. he's her losing dog. the dog she keeps fighting for when no one else will. she never gives up on him, not truly, even when he is so clearly doomed, because she loves him, she won't give up on him.
and Theon is, in so many senses, a dog. he's been passed around from owner to owner, home to home, trained and beaten and domesticated, made to behave how his owner at the time sees fit. he's a good dog, a good beaten dog.
and now, in a way, he's Asha's dog. she doesn't want him to be her dog, she wants him to be her brother, and Theon's trying, he really is trying, she knows he's trying, but part of him will always be doomed to be a dog waiting to be hit, waiting for a command, waiting to be trained.
he's her losing dog, she knows it, knows he's doomed, deep down, there's little hope, he'll die a damned dog, but fuck it she doesn't care, he's her blood, her baby, he will be by her side no matter what. she'll always go back for him, she'll always fight for him, she'll always tell him to stay, she'll always give him a chance, she'll always try.
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#(this post is based on the show. I'm half way through season 6)#I don't even know if I'm saying anything coherently but I tried#they make me feel insane. feral. ill. all of the above.#I think- scratch that. I *know* asha is so much softer for theon than she lets on and I don't know how more people don't see that#like yes. she wasn't perfect when it came to handling theon#but like... she was doing the best she knew how to do with the way she was brought up#I mean. the ironborn have a very tough it out or die mentality. they don't do “mental health” (I mean... look at euron. does it look-#like they do mindfulness and processing trauma?)#she only knew how to tough love theon. that was it. she wanted him to get better but didn't know how to actually make it happen#but that doesn't change the fact that she loved him with her whole being. that she hated seeing him in the state he was. that she didn't-#want to make it all better like any big sister would.#because she did! she loved him! he was her baby and he was hurting and she didn't know how to fix it!#she's brash cause thats all she knows. she's tough on him cause what else could she do? she had to have been scared and worried about him.#I think part of her brashness was her trying to cover up just how worried and conflicted and confused she was when it came to his situation#so this post caters to what I think the soft innards of asha greyjoy would be like. she loves her baby brother very much.#I mean. the way she looks at him when she tells him the story of him smiling at her or when she kisses his forehead when he agrees to be-#*theon* again. for her. the love in her eyes is undeniable.#to asha and her losing dog- I mean brother#they're gonna be the death of me#asha greyjoy#theon greyjoy#yara greyjoy#got#game of thrones#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#the second row of images is from the scene where asha (she will never be yara to me. sorry got. asha is the superior name) is telling-#theon the story about him being a terrible baby and how he smiled at her.
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DEAD THINGS IN THE WOODS. DEAD THINGS IN THE WATER.
I was once again thinking about how Patchface has a tendency to say some rather odd things, and if you view the phrase "under the sea" as an indication of death/afterlife, the things he says take on a more sinister connotation:
Patchface rang his bells. “It is always summer under the sea,” he intoned. “The merwives wear nennymoans in their hair and weave gowns of silver seaweed. I know, I know, oh, oh, oh.”
— A Clash of Kings, Prologue
Patchface was capering about as the maester made his slow way around the table to Davos Seaworth. “Here we eat fish,” the fool declared happily, waving a cod about like a scepter. “Under the sea, the fish eat us. I know, I know, oh, oh, oh.”
— A Clash of Kings, Prologue
“Under the sea the old fish eat the young fish,” the fool muttered at Davos. He bobbed his head, and his bells clanged and chimed and sang. “I know, I know, oh oh oh.”
— A Storm of Swords, Davos V
They found Her Grace sewing by the fire, whilst her fool danced about to music only he could hear, the cowbells on his antlers clanging. “The crow, the crow,” Patchface cried when he saw Jon. “Under the sea the crows are white as snow, I know, I know, oh, oh, oh.”
— A Dance With Dragons, Jon XI
Patchface jumped up. “I will lead it!” His bells rang merrily. “We will march into the sea and out again. Under the waves we will ride seahorses, and mermaids will blow seashells to announce our coming, oh, oh, oh.”
— A Dance With Dragons, Jon XIII
“Under the sea, men marry fishes.” Patchface did a little dance step, jingling his bells. “They do, they do, they do.”
— A Dance With Dragons, Jon XIII
Patchface drowned but survived under mysterious circumstances:
The boy washed up on the third day. Maester Cressen had come down with the rest, to help put names to the dead. When they found the fool he was naked, his skin white and wrinkled and powdered with wet sand. Cressen had thought him another corpse, but when Jommy grabbed his ankles to drag him off to the burial wagon, the boy coughed water and sat up. To his dying day, Jommy had sworn that Patchface’s flesh was clammy cold.
No one ever explained those two days the fool had been lost in the sea. The fisherfolk liked to say a mermaid had taught him to breathe water in return for his seed.
— A Clash of Kings, Prologue
The previous passage almost seems to echo the following:
He had been the thirteenth man to lead the Night’s Watch, she said; a warrior who knew no fear. “And that was the fault in him,” she would add, “for all men must know fear.” A woman was his downfall; a woman glimpsed from atop the Wall, with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars. Fearing nothing, he chased her and caught her and loved her, though her skin was cold as ice, and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well.
— A Storm of Swords, Bran IV
That's not the only connection that exists between the merlings and the white walkers:
Mormont was deaf to the edge in his voice. “The fisherfolk near Eastwatch have glimpsed white walkers on the shore.”
This time Tyrion could not hold his tongue. “The fisherfolk of Lannisport often glimpse merlings.”
— A Game of Thrones, Tyrion III
Which of course reminds me of Cotter Pyke's ominous letter to Jon Snow:
At Hardhome, with six ships. Wild seas. Blackbird lost with all hands, two Lyseni ships driven aground on Skane, Talon taking water. Very bad here. Wildlings eating their own dead. Dead things in the woods. Braavosi captains will only take women, children on their ships. Witch women call us slavers. Attempt to take Storm Crow defeated, six crew dead, many wildlings. Eight ravens left. Dead things in the water. Send help by land, seas wracked by storms. From Talon, by hand of Maester Harmune.
Cotter Pyke had made his angry mark below.
“Is it grievous, my lord?” asked Clydas.
“Grievous enough.” Dead things in the wood. Dead things in the water. Six ships left, of the eleven that set sail. Jon Snow rolled up the parchment, frowning. Night falls, he thought, and now my war begins.
— A Dance With Dragons, Jon XI
Dead things in the woods. Dead things in the water. Here's the description of the white walkers and the merlings:
Will saw movement from the corner of his eye. Pale shapes gliding through the wood. He turned his head, glimpsed a white shadow in the darkness. Then it was gone. Branches stirred gently in the wind, scratching at one another with wooden fingers. Will opened his mouth to call down a warning, and the words seemed to freeze in his throat.
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A shadow emerged from the dark of the wood. It stood in front of Royce. Tall, it was, and gaunt and hard as old bones, with flesh pale as milk. Its armor seemed to change color as it moved; here it was white as new-fallen snow, there black as shadow, everywhere dappled with the deep grey-green of the trees. The patterns ran like moonlight on water with every step it took.
— A Game of Thrones, Prologue
They tell of pale blue mists that move across the waters, mists so cold that any ship they pass over is frozen instantly; of drowned spirits who rise at night to drag the living down into the grey-green depths; of mermaids pale of flesh with black-scaled tails, far more malign than their sisters of the south.
— The World of Ice and Fire, The Shivering Sea
Pale and black and grey-green. All frozen.
There is also this similarity of both being said to lay with human women to sire terrible offsprings:
He remembered the hearth tales Old Nan told them. The wildlings were cruel men, she said, slavers and slayers and thieves. They consorted with giants and ghouls, stole girl children in the dead of night, and drank blood from polished horns. And their women lay with the Others in the Long Night to sire terrible half-human children.
— A Game of Thrones, Bran I
An even more fanciful possibility was put forth a century ago by Maester Theron. Born a bastard on the Iron Islands, Theron noted a certain likeness between the black stone of the ancient fortress and that of the Seastone Chair, the high seat of House Greyjoy of Pyke, whose origins are similarly ancient and mysterious. Theron’s rather inchoate manuscript Strange Stone postulates that both fortress and seat might be the work of a queer, misshapen race of half men sired by creatures of the salt seas upon human women. These Deep Ones, as he names them, are the seed from which our legends of merlings have grown, he argues, whilst their terrible fathers are the truth behind the Drowned God of the ironborn.
— The World of Ice and Fire, The Reach
We know the dragons are contrasted against the white walkers, but perhaps the merlings are too:
The big man looked out toward the terrace. “I knew it would rain,” he said in a gloomy tone. “My bones were aching last night. They always ache before it rains. The dragons won’t like this. Fire and water don’t mix, and that’s a fact.”
— A Dance With Dragons, The Dragontamer
Although no one can say for certain exactly what kind of creatures Euron (who, while not exactly THE NIGHT KING, is still very Night King coded) plans on summoning from the sea, but perhaps the merlings are part of his plan.
#valyrianscrolls#asoiaf#dragons#merlings#white walkers#the others#patchface#euron greyjoy#meta#asoiaf meta#text#I would say I'm back on my bullshit but I never did leave it#though this time I'm writing out my thoughts on this a bit more comprehensively#honestly if the merlings are the white walkers of the sea it would confirm quite a few theories of mine#also grrm is a genius but we all knew that#can't believe this idea came to me because I was originally thinking about 2 very unrelated (but actually still very related 🤭) characters
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Listening to Clash of Critics discuss Bran II from AGOT and thinking about how Jaime really just threw himself out that window huh whats more fitting of a member of the kingsguard than destroying the dreams of a young boy who idolizes you by committing an act of violence against him
#text#all of these adult men being wildly different branches bran couldve taken if things were different#ned euron jaime etc
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Quen ❤️
#submission#LITERALLYYYYYYYY#quen @ the elementary schooler she just physically assaulted: that was your fault for annoying me. change starts with you#quenposting#now i'm imagining a modern au where the greyjoys are all in therapy....#vic in for court-mandated domestic abuse intervention. naturally. aeron in for substance abuse. naturally.#balon and lanny in marriage counseling (it's going Bad). naturally.#euron agrees to attend therapy specifically to torture his therapist hannibal-style
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House Sparr
***DISCLAIMER*** House Sparr is a canon house residing in the Iron Islands. They are so tiny there is basically nothing on the actual characters, so I have taken the liberty of expanding on them myself. Rodrik Sparr & Steffarion Sparr, as well as The Sparr (Serion), are all canon. Please keep this in mind when reading.
Introduction.
House Sparr of Great Wyk are a noble house in the Iron Islands. They are among Balon Greyjoy’s bannermen.
Their coat of arms is an oak saltire on blue; when Eliar Sparr runs away, he adopts a new standard: a brown sparrow over a burning sun on sand.
Their words (non-canon) are: “From two now as one.”
Current family tree.
Serion Sparr: Born 242 AC, perished 300 AC, killed in battle on the deck of his ship during an attack.
Cira Flint-Sparr: Salt-wife of Serion, mother of his children and his eventual Lady wife. Born 244 AC, perished 271 AC in childbirth. Cira was taken from her home in Breakstone Hill by Serion in 257 AC. Most did not recognize her as the true lady of Great Wyk.
Eliar Sparr: Eldest son of Serion and former heir of Great Wyk. Ran away in 272 AC from the Iron Islands. Born 259 AC, perished in 298 AC, beheaded by Eddard Stark under the command of King Robert Baratheon I for treason.
Rodrik Sparr “The Vole”: Second eldest son. Head of the house as of 300 AC. Born 263, still living.*
Avya Sparr: Only daughter of Serion. Captain of the ship Redsalt. Born 265 AC, still living.
Steffarion Sparr: Youngest son, born 271 AC, still living.*
Andaren Sparr: Brother of the Night’s Watch. Former Ghiscari slave, adopted and brought to Westeros by Eliar. Born 280 AC, still living.
* rodrik’s association to house sparr in a dance with dragons is not known, only that he is a sparr. he is the head of house in my canon.
* steffarion is the heir in a feast for crows but he is not in my canon.
#asoiaf#asoiaf oc#house sparr#the sparr’s are all so silly I adore them so much#they’re so useless & they hate euron#oh yeah fun fact ned and eliar are distantly related#idk what kind of cousins but some kind#pls ask more about them if you want to know more
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The King's Prize, ADWD
The Turncloak, ADWD
Two exiles.
#asoiaf#theon greyjoy#asha greyjoy#is this where i beat my drum about my favorite crackpot theory#which is the iron islands (or at least pyke) are going to get straight up swallowed by the sea#call it punishment by the drowned god for the ironborn abetting euron#leaving not just theon and asha but all of their people homeless by the end of the series#doc
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This Week on Keeping up with the Greyjoys...
Theon: I'm on a voyage of really finding myself again
Asha: Stannis is just really out here enforcing gender roles in a fucking crisis... anyway back to that asshole who flips his hair and left me walking in a fucking blizzard on a broken ankle
Victarion: WHAT DO YOU MEAN GRINDR ISN'T AN APP FOR SHARPENING MY WEAPONS *smashes phone*
Euron: *showing off his entire collection of villain costumes* It's all about dressing for the job you want not the one you have.
Aeron *tied to a bow of the Silence*: EEEEEERRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH
Balon: ☠️
#I want to see a reality show based on the Greyjoys but it just gets more unhinged every season#Euron is there with his GRWM videos while his crew is committing war crimes behind him#Rodrik Harlaw is there purely for reaction shots and looking into the camera#Theon keeps stumbling into shots each more dishevelled than the last#Victarion keeps getting catfished#Yes it's euron#Aeron just be going through it but he'd just be in confessionals denying it all because he ain't a lil bitch#Theon just sobbing in the confessionals#Asha is just dropping bea Arthur worthy commentary#Keeping up with the Greyjoys#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#house of the dragon#asoiaf meta#hotd#valyrianscrolls#stannis baratheon#asha greyjoy#theon greyjoy#euron greyjoy#aeron greyjoy#victarion greyjoy#House greyjoy#House Greyjoy of pyke#the iron islands#the iron isles#The salt throne#The silence#a game of thrones#a clash of kings
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remember euron greyjoy still wants to marry daenerys, the person in the world most capable of and likely to kill him on sight
#asoiaf#it's so funny to me that both victarion and euron think they can marry daenerys???#I hope moqorro lets victarion live long enough for dany to laugh in his face before she takes all his boats
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Also just a shoutout to Victarion whose such a petty bitch about the things that are his fault. Like hes so angry at Euron for raping his third wife, and is planning on sailing through the Dothraki Sea (which isnt a sea btw its literally fields of fucking grass), and taking Daenerys for himself instead of giving her to Euron, as retribution for his third wife.
Meanwhile, Victarions the one who honour killed his own wife after she was raped, and fed her corpse to fucking crabs. Like, I want you to explain to me how you crying when you beat her to death still make her death Eurons fault.
I think "I beat her to death with my own hands", is where her death starts and stops at being your fault, buddy.
#the ironborn are all out of their minds they are fucking idiot psychos#your all dumb and stupid and crazy and i am obsessed with your train wreck of a culture#game of thrones#a song of ice and fire#asoiaf#victarion greyjoy#euron greyjoy
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"Rhaegar is a prophecy obsessed man"
"He doesn't love anyone"
"He just wanted prophecy babies"
???
Did i miss something in the books? I get it, Rhaegar cared for the prophecy because the threat of the others is real, but why do people believe this dude is a fucking robot? O.o
Also, didn't Grrm call him "love struck prince"?
You didn't miss anything in the books, fandom just loves coming up with reasons to justify their hatred toward Rhaegar. Portraying him as a soulless, heartless monster just makes that easier than using what's actually written about his character.
#ask#anon#not sure why they bother to make shit up cause they're going to hate on him no matter what#these are the same people that say him saying Lyanna before he died was a lie and he actually said Visenya 😭💀#they also claim that he abused his wife and children based on absolutely nothing#the mountain ramsey euron whomst??? actually rhaegar is the most evil man in all of asoiaf#I know they can't stand that the Martells don't hate him or Targs + blame Tywin/Gregor/Meryn for their deaths#no canon source blaming Rhaegar for their deaths and yet...
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