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The moment Mike said that he's loved El since the moment he saw her, Byler became endgame.
#the love at first sight trope is shite#and the duffers know this#since they have other ships like jancy jopper and lumax#(and are dawsons creek enthusiasts)#i may be another type of delusional#but if anything mike's monologue is one of the biggest byler proofs to me#byler#stranger things#will byers#mike wheeler
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thinking about this again
#stranger things#byler#i know a lot of people only post the first screenshot#but confirmation that it IS the duffers who replied to that always makes me giggle#thoughts#they get me bc love at first sight is the worst trope ever bc it’s the most superficial trope to exist#you know nothing about the person so why are you in love
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me when s5 comes out and mike says "so, el, that painting you commissioned....."
#she did not commission shit#that poor girl doesnt even know what commissioned means#mike finding out about the feelings will claimed as els actually being his own. duffers please#byler#byler endgame#stranger things
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Huh Max’s hair clip is really cute, I sure hope it’s not foreshadowing to something happening to her two seasons in the future…
#i know it sounds crazy but didn’t the duffers say than there were references to max getting vecna’d since s2??#max mayfield#stranger things 2#stranger things 4
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stranger things season 5 is gonna start with the voice of a little boy, singing a familiar song…
and then we see will, singing. THEN we see the demogorgon taking him to the library, everything in between the scenes we know— that we haven’t seen, deleted scenes or new scenes idc.
season 5 is gonna start at the point between will getting to the library and joyce and hopper finding him, what we didn’t see. we get a close look at a tease of how the connection between him and vecna specifically began
and then he wakes up. present s5 time, title card intro begins and the first episode of the final season of stranger things starts.
im CALLING IT BABY!
#im rewatching season 1#if you couldnt tell#and it brought me back to the upside down comic#which i KNOW isnt canon#but hey#its a pretty clear and legit guide to what might happen#and im pretty possitive of this theory#the duffers will try to silence me#put this in your bingo cards!#remember me!#connection gate#mind walkie talkie gate#stranger things#byler#will byers#stranger things 5#st5 spoilers
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do you think it was weird for mike to go to california and experience his first byers family dinner in months just for it to be far too similar to wheeler family dinners
#stranger things#the duffer brothers#80s#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#miwi#joyce byers#the byers family#like think about their little christmas dinner in s1#THATS what byers family dinners are like#they have genuine conversation and enjoy each others company#and then in s4 its just... literally small talk and lying#mike must have unfortunately felt right at home#at least for just a second#and in the worst way#'oh so this is no longer a safe space???'#mike 'petty revenge' wheeler cracks his knuckles#I KNOW WHAT TO DO#*makes a comment that makes it a million times worse*#then all innocent what i thought this was a FAMILY DINNER#I KNOW HOW THIS WORKS#I HAVE THEM EVERY NIGHT#WE ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO STORM AWAY TO OUR RESPECTIVE ROOMS THATS HOW YOU KNOW DINNER IS OVER
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oh my god okay. The fact that Wayne narrates the lore of the Creel House and Eddie narrates the Vecna campaign is so important to me. It means that Eddie grew up listening to his uncle tell stories. It means that those stories left such an impact on him, that he started telling stories of his own.
It means Eddie inherited the storytelling trait from Wayne.
#nobody speak to me I’m so emotional about this#why is this realization hitting me so hard right now#why does this make me wanna cryyyy#also I’m sorry if this point has been made before#I’m just lying in bed eating goldfish and feeling my feelings#i don’t even know if the duffers made that parallel on purpose but damn it’s deep#eddie munson
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sick of people justifying the lack of diversity in stranger things with the fact that it's an 80s small town when they have fucking great poc characters who are either underutilised (lucas, erica) or who they just deleted off the show (kali, argyle). not to mention all of vecna's victims being fleshed out...except the Black one! and all the opportunities they could've used for rep, like vickie. this is a consistent pattern.
#usual disclaimer of Whiteness#but this needs to be said#also i know there is that one military guy but he is literally a villain and also barely there#stranger things#byler#lucas sinclair#erica sinclair#lumax#kali stranger things#argyle stranger things#anti duffer brothers#st critical
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Is that…
#byler#stranger things#mike wheeler#wait a damn minute…#not the painting being the first thing mike’s eyes gravitate towards when he opens the door to the van#and then he just keeps looking at it for a moment like hmmm#then he’s like#‘wait what am I doing here…? oh yeah!’#after finally looking away towards the front where we all know the sunglasses likely are#lock him up atp#mike ‘triple take’ wheeler strikes again#the duffers direction for Finn in this shot: linger your attention on the backseat real quick 😅
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you know, i’ve been thinking about how s3 byler’s rain fight and the context of that when it comes to the other seasons, and i’ve really been sort of stuck on “we’re not kids anymore.”
this implies that mike thinks that they’re growing up. and they are. they are. that’s true. but when this really makes you question everything is NEXT season, when he’s shown playing the same game he called childish the season before.
dnd is mike and will’s thing. and so when he told will that, obviously will is hurt. and it would have made sense if they’d stopped that right there- mike doesn’t play dnd anymore! because, hey, they aren’t kids. not anymore.
but the only difference between mike in s3 and s4 is that eleven is gone. and obviously will is, too, but he’d never stop playing because will was there. which is the only difference between s2 and 3- eleven is back.
so obviously we know he stopped playing because of her and started again because she was gone. but that’s just crazy. they’ve SHOWN that over and over.
and then when he goes back to cali he’s not himself AGAIN. until el leaves. then he is. he’s nice again, he’s himself, he’s flirting with will and he’s not being an asshole anymore. so they show that el brings out the worst in him. it’s clear. all their fights are about el. all of them, if you really look at the base of them. and will? will brings out the best in him. he smiles more when he’s with will. they’re trying to show us that.
#we all know this but i needed to write it out#stranger things#stranger things 5#will byers#mike wheeler#the duffer brothers#byler endgame#byler#hellinhawkins
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I wanted to ask you- do you really think that Mike and will could end up together in season 5? Like realistically? I personally wish for nothing more but I truly can’t imagine how they would do it with the other stuff happening around them. At best I can only think of Mike and eleven separating and if neither of them will die, I can imagine that they will leave an open ending for the viewers to interpret if Mike had feelings for will as well. What do you think could happen?
I really do think that they can end up together. When has the supernatural plot ever stopped jancy, jopper, lumax, mileven and stancy from happening and why couldn’t it be a possibility for byler?
I think season 4 and the first shadow covered both Henry and El’s backstories. We’ve gotten confirmation multiple times that season 5 covers Will’s backstory, and Mike is a big part of his life. Other than resolving the conflicts from season 4, giving us more information about the mind flayer /UD, and providing context for will’s involvement in the plot, there’s nothing major (like the Russia plot) left to establish in season 5. Everyone is already in Hawkins and know Vecna’s motives.
[Marvel spoilers…?] Remember how avengers infinity war killed half the universe at the end of the movie and then a) invented time travel, b) brought them all back and c) killed the bad guy all within 3 hours in the sequel? I think byler happening in the 10+ hours of season 5 wouldn’t be too much of a stretch. They’ve already known each other for 10 years and are semi-canon.
Sure, there’s always a possibility that they could leave byler open ended but why would they do that if they wanted every character to have their perfect happy ending?
#I’ll be very honest I hardly doubted byler endgame till I watched TUA season 4#because I realised that sometimes it can just be terrible writing#but I have faith in the duffers and I know they love will byers.#anonymous#askovna#byler
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#joseph quinn#joe quinn#jq#this is the face of the name that knows exactly what happens in season 5 of Stranger Things and we have to wait until like summer 2026#srly why does it always take them SO long to film a season#season 2 of HOTD is starting Sunday already#Duffers lets GO 👏
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It’s so crazy how I can be so confident about Byler being endgame but, even so, Byler doubt hits me like a truck and makes me want to have a full breakdown every other day 🙃
#byler#love it#and pls I’m not trying to add any negativity into the tag I just wanna know if anyone can relate#they just mean so much to me#I’m terrified the duffers are gonna disappoint me#gonna disappoint US!#I also feel this way abt how they’ll handle Mike in s5#I’m not prepared to be disappointed#mike wheeler#will byers#stranger things#jay’s talking ST <3#jay's saying stuff :)
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absolutely insane that mike literally p a n i c k e d when will was like "well what about us?" because will wasn't even really making things gay he was honest to god just inquiring about the state of their estranged friendship and wondering why mike didn't make time to talk to him when they're supposed to be best friends but MIKE was the one having an aneurysm like "🏳️🌈⁉️ W H AT!!"
“WE'RE FRIENDS” “i know mike” “WE'RE!!! F R I E N D S!!” “right so why don't you call me — ” “I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND” “… that in no way answers my question"
#stranger things#byler#queer mike wheeler#mike acts gayer in this scene than will who is canonically gay is all i'm saying#and while we're at it...#what the fuck is the “it's not my fault you don't like girls” scene#the way mike is visibly devastated after will's like “yeah i did think we'd just hang out in your basement forever and it would be enough”#maybe because he realised he was forcing himself not to also feel like it was enough me thinks??? he was trying to be “normal”?#and then he immediately feels guilty and bikes in the goddamn rain to apologise like bitch what is this shit? the notebook?#meanwhile his girlfriend is fully mad at him and he's laying around eating chips and burping and laughing and complaining about women#and doing nothing to apologise to her LMAO????#mike wheeler what are you doing king. the people want to know#anyway i'm once again deep in my queer mike theorising#don't let me down duffers i s2g#eve text
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the duffers really said “we have TWO opportunities to do something really funny with camera and actor placement”
#the big reveal will forever be the sound i hear when i look at the image of mike and el reuniting 😭😭#if you’ve seen media with love triangles then you know exactly what these placements mean 😭#will is directly in the middle of mik and el for a reason#and then will and mike are stranding side by side for a reason#remember noah said the duffers purposefully put them there#byler#stranger things
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Nah i think it’s so funny how Joe and Dacre’s chemistry was so strong that they had to scrap their plotline and never make them interact again 😭😭. How the times have changed; back in the teen wolf and sherlock days, if they had acted together in one of those shows, the writers would have queerbaited the fuck out of them
#like…#duffers you had literal gold in your hands#I would have eaten that shit up even while knowing that they would never happen#but at least now we would have much more scenes to edit with heartbreaking Taylor swift songs#billy hargrove#stranger things#dacre montgomery#steve harrington#harringrove#joe keery#stranger things 4
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