#and i will look like a ridiculous fool

[mask131]

Hey, you all who make Greek mythology posts and videos and whatnot. Could you... stop treating "Protogenoi" as if it was some sort of clear-cut category of Greek mythology?

I don't know through who or when the whole "Oh yeah, Protogenoi is a definitive character-class of Greek mythology" began. I suspect it might have something to do with the Theoi website - which a LOT of person are using as a resource. But it definitively was popularized by the Percy Jackson fandom...

Olympian is a "category" of gods in Greek mythology, recognized both in religion and in poetry/fiction. It designates the gods that dwell on Olympus - twelve in its most limited acception, but many more if you extend it. Titan is also a specific "category", a denomination that isn't given randomly and whose exact meaning is debated (what is its etymology? Why were they named that way?), but it is the name the previous generation of gods before the Olympians received.

"Protogenoi"? Protogenoi is just putting a cap on an adjective that means "The first-borns". It is not a proper name. And I think I should insist on first bornSSSS because "protogenoi" is a plural, so stop using it as a singular. It isn't even a proper qualificative, because sometimes "protogenoi" is never used, other time you have "protogenos" as the qualificative of just ONE god. It is literaly just a broad and vast adjective to mean "they were the first gods". There isn't any official list like the Olympians or the Titans.

There is not, in Greek religion, or even in Greek poetry, a clear definition or any exact limit as to what a "protogenos" is - IF the term is even used! Because, unlike Olympians or Titans or Nereids or Oceanids, it is NOT an actual "religious terminology" or "mythological terminology". Look at all the encyclopedias of Greek mythology before the early 2010s, look at all the lists of Greek gods written during the 20th century... There will be talks of "primordial gods", of "elderly gods", of "first gods" - but you will see nobody using "Protogenoi" with a cap to make them equal to Olympians or Titans. That's... that's not how Greek mythology works.

Honestly, you can just use "primordial gods", it works the same.

And in general people have been completely taking qualifications of the Greek gods out of their context... Like "Chthonian gods". People treat it as if it was a specific clan or family of gods which... is not correct? "Chthonian" was an important religious and mythological concept in Ancient Greece - they literaly invented the adjective - but it was not like the Olympians or the Titans? It was a much broader category - it is literaly the same way you have "sea gods" and "sky gods". Chthonian gods are just the deities below the earth, and of the underworld... Not even of death sometimes (as many like to say), just below-the-earth, literaly "under the world", as opposed to celestial entities. (It is such a broad category that it can be used in other mythologies, and it has been used as such by researchers, archeologists and other historians of religion... Osiris is a chthonian power, a chthonic god! Though after that we enter the whole debate of "Should we use Greco-Roman terms like pantheon to designate gods of other cultures?")

Yes there are specific, clear-cut "groups" in Greek mythology. Clans and families and siblinghoods of gods. Nereids and Oceanids and Olympians and Titans and the Anemoi... But there are other groups which are not as integral to the Greek religion/myths or as clear cut as people seem to believe they are. "Sky gods", "earth gods", "sea gods", "primordial gods" are present as vague groups in Greek mythology but please stop treating them as if they had a distinction as important as the Aesir and Vanir. Greek mythology isn't just one big list or a big catalogue filled with neatly numbered boards. Where is the limit between a minor god and a daemon? Who knows! Not all Olympians are celestial gods: take Poseidon! And some gods literaly break all the established boundaries: for example Hekate, so beloved by everybody here - chthonian and celestial all at the same time!

[uncanny-tranny]

I think respecting trans people comes with a territory of like... just because many people will pass as cis doesn't mean that it's a great idea to use their passing as a way of legitimizing how absurd transphobia is

Transphobia isn't absurd because I "look like a [cis] man," it's because transphobia is fucking ridiculous. It would be ridiculous whether or not I passed or whether I look like a "conventional man." I use myself as an example, but ultimately, passing or appearing normative should never play into whether or not transphobia is bad.

[bietrofastimoff23]

✨they're besties ✨

I just know that their first meeting was supposed to end in a fight, but Tai Lung saw how this loser couldn't use his own breath fire, and he was like, "ha-ha. well, this funny guy is my bff now ."

No, he didn't ask for Scott's opinion. He decided it for the two of them.

Tai Lung before and during a conversation with Scott:

[deemacs]

regarding oceangate, i do want them to survive a little bit just for them to absolutely sue the shit out of the owner, i want the greedy people to fight to death on my tv screen, telling us about the horrors they had to endure, finally doing something for the public by entertaining us. turning from kings to jesters.

[satans-knitwear]

She will happily squish me and smack me with her mammoth baby paws for attention but she will not sit still for a selfie.

[stranger-rants]

The ST “Heroes”: Having a silly goofy moment where Dustin and Suzie sing the Never Ending Story song that they’ll all joke about later after all the death and devastation is over

Me, watching from my living room: Guys, Billy is actively dying.

[saturnniidae]

I love monstrous nightmares but the way I've never seen anybody talk about the fact their bulbous eyes are situated directly on top of their head like the fucking snails from turbo and how if they weren't pointy they'd look like angry birds is criminal

[elegyofthemoon]

ok but do i want to actually sit and read through all the clockie animation stuff so i have better foundation for what i want to say? i guess

[fire-fira]

You ever have a dream involving big cats where circumstances are just so what-the-actual-fuck that you can't help but think "This is a stupid way to keep these large predators that can fucking eat you"?

[tradingjack]

(wip) my large, buff vash agenda making its way into all my drawings

[boneskullravenriver]

I don't understand why early 2010s YA tv shows didn't just make their characters college age because like... Y'all already treat these 16 year olds like they're 21-23 😭😭

[laniidae-passerine]

Honestly I think Dean Highbottom has some shit to answer to as well. The mockery, the derision, the outright admittance that he was hoping Coriolanus would fail and the Snow family would continue to suffer. How someone who loathed the Games still treated a young man with cruelty because of the past, because of social divides that would be so easy to tear down. In the end, it wasn’t just Gaul who shaped Snow into the man he became. So bitter and hateful. So incapable of compassion and forgiveness. Just like his father. Just like his Dean.

[transgnckon]

I just like I get being super intimidated by comics bc all my friends who knew me before saw me be like “I’m not gonna read the comics I’m here to watch these dc cartoon shows & thats IT. I’m gonna stay in this corner completely separate from whatever all of that is.” bc I didn’t rlly want to get too into it just bc it felt like so overwhelming

It’s also just crazy to me bc it took me forever to even get like a little bit of courage to talk to other comic fans when I did actually start reading them bc I’m like god there’s so much I don’t know & will continue to not know bc like I personally cannot commit to reading every single dc comic ever so whenever I see ppl who are talking about the batfam & then go “I’ve actually never touched a comic!” I just go

[gu6chan]

My hot Drakengard take of the day is that after playing it for like 110 hours and counting im very much convinced that ppl who still complain about the gameplay being a "slog" just aren't playing the game correctly. you can hate me for this but you will not change my mind

[cheerfullycatholic]

My brother: "do you wanna walk to the back of the woods to look at the moon with me?"

Me, suspicious: "is that where you're gonna shoot me in the back of the head?"

Brother: "what? No, the moon is just really big and orange"

Me:

[pallases]

ltspice has got to be the most frustrating program on the planet good fucking GOD