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mask131 · 6 months ago
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Hey, you all who make Greek mythology posts and videos and whatnot. Could you... stop treating "Protogenoi" as if it was some sort of clear-cut category of Greek mythology?
I don't know through who or when the whole "Oh yeah, Protogenoi is a definitive character-class of Greek mythology" began. I suspect it might have something to do with the Theoi website - which a LOT of person are using as a resource. But it definitively was popularized by the Percy Jackson fandom...
Olympian is a "category" of gods in Greek mythology, recognized both in religion and in poetry/fiction. It designates the gods that dwell on Olympus - twelve in its most limited acception, but many more if you extend it. Titan is also a specific "category", a denomination that isn't given randomly and whose exact meaning is debated (what is its etymology? Why were they named that way?), but it is the name the previous generation of gods before the Olympians received.
"Protogenoi"? Protogenoi is just putting a cap on an adjective that means "The first-borns". It is not a proper name. And I think I should insist on first bornSSSS because "protogenoi" is a plural, so stop using it as a singular. It isn't even a proper qualificative, because sometimes "protogenoi" is never used, other time you have "protogenos" as the qualificative of just ONE god. It is literaly just a broad and vast adjective to mean "they were the first gods". There isn't any official list like the Olympians or the Titans.
There is not, in Greek religion, or even in Greek poetry, a clear definition or any exact limit as to what a "protogenos" is - IF the term is even used! Because, unlike Olympians or Titans or Nereids or Oceanids, it is NOT an actual "religious terminology" or "mythological terminology". Look at all the encyclopedias of Greek mythology before the early 2010s, look at all the lists of Greek gods written during the 20th century... There will be talks of "primordial gods", of "elderly gods", of "first gods" - but you will see nobody using "Protogenoi" with a cap to make them equal to Olympians or Titans. That's... that's not how Greek mythology works.
Honestly, you can just use "primordial gods", it works the same.
And in general people have been completely taking qualifications of the Greek gods out of their context... Like "Chthonian gods". People treat it as if it was a specific clan or family of gods which... is not correct? "Chthonian" was an important religious and mythological concept in Ancient Greece - they literaly invented the adjective - but it was not like the Olympians or the Titans? It was a much broader category - it is literaly the same way you have "sea gods" and "sky gods". Chthonian gods are just the deities below the earth, and of the underworld... Not even of death sometimes (as many like to say), just below-the-earth, literaly "under the world", as opposed to celestial entities. (It is such a broad category that it can be used in other mythologies, and it has been used as such by researchers, archeologists and other historians of religion... Osiris is a chthonian power, a chthonic god! Though after that we enter the whole debate of "Should we use Greco-Roman terms like pantheon to designate gods of other cultures?")
Yes there are specific, clear-cut "groups" in Greek mythology. Clans and families and siblinghoods of gods. Nereids and Oceanids and Olympians and Titans and the Anemoi... But there are other groups which are not as integral to the Greek religion/myths or as clear cut as people seem to believe they are. "Sky gods", "earth gods", "sea gods", "primordial gods" are present as vague groups in Greek mythology but please stop treating them as if they had a distinction as important as the Aesir and Vanir. Greek mythology isn't just one big list or a big catalogue filled with neatly numbered boards. Where is the limit between a minor god and a daemon? Who knows! Not all Olympians are celestial gods: take Poseidon! And some gods literaly break all the established boundaries: for example Hekate, so beloved by everybody here - chthonian and celestial all at the same time!
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uncanny-tranny · 9 months ago
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I think respecting trans people comes with a territory of like... just because many people will pass as cis doesn't mean that it's a great idea to use their passing as a way of legitimizing how absurd transphobia is
Transphobia isn't absurd because I "look like a [cis] man," it's because transphobia is fucking ridiculous. It would be ridiculous whether or not I passed or whether I look like a "conventional man." I use myself as an example, but ultimately, passing or appearing normative should never play into whether or not transphobia is bad.
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bietrofastimoff23 · 8 months ago
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✨they're besties ✨
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I just know that their first meeting was supposed to end in a fight, but Tai Lung saw how this loser couldn't use his own breath fire, and he was like, "ha-ha. well, this funny guy is my bff now ."
No, he didn't ask for Scott's opinion. He decided it for the two of them.
Tai Lung before and during a conversation with Scott:
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deemacs · 1 year ago
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regarding oceangate, i do want them to survive a little bit just for them to absolutely sue the shit out of the owner, i want the greedy people to fight to death on my tv screen, telling us about the horrors they had to endure, finally doing something for the public by entertaining us. turning from kings to jesters.
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shinobicyrus · 9 months ago
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Reblog if you're a threat to humanity.
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satans-knitwear · 2 years ago
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She will happily squish me and smack me with her mammoth baby paws for attention but she will not sit still for a selfie.
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stranger-rants · 1 year ago
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The ST “Heroes”: Having a silly goofy moment where Dustin and Suzie sing the Never Ending Story song that they’ll all joke about later after all the death and devastation is over
Me, watching from my living room: Guys, Billy is actively dying.
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keeps-ache · 10 months ago
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i'm on some sort of kick lol
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saturnniidae · 8 months ago
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I love monstrous nightmares but the way I've never seen anybody talk about the fact their bulbous eyes are situated directly on top of their head like the fucking snails from turbo and how if they weren't pointy they'd look like angry birds is criminal
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elegyofthemoon · 7 months ago
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ok but do i want to actually sit and read through all the clockie animation stuff so i have better foundation for what i want to say? i guess
#avil plays hsr#idk if i actually want to write this ramble because i started rewatching a bunch of scenes that i needed to figure my thoughts out#but the more i gather the more im getting lost with myself so im like MMMMM#i gotta line these pieces up first#i think the trickiest thing about gallagher is wondering how much of what he says is true vs false#UH#ill just tag this as#hsr 2.1 spoilers#because thats the ramble in the tags#but like as a follower of enigmata hes prone to lying and conjuring even more riddles to confuse you#so i just have to wonder too#and if his whole facade as gallagher is fake. then how did he actually become part of the bloodhound?#sunday points out how gallagher stoles features from so many members of the family so. i just have to wonder#he couldnt have changed his identity without being noticed#so thats where i get confused. like How did you get in here in the first place using your disguise?#how did you fool people?#ANSWER MY QUESTIONS MAN (SHAKES GALLAGHER)#at the very least though: i think what he says about mikhail is true#i want to believe those are true even despite his false front#the things i want to talk about is like#well first i wanna make a whole timeline of the historical events of penacony#and that will give me a better idea of how things led to one another to present time#and THANKFULLY i rewatched because now i understand what gallagher meant possibly by traitor#but how did the family come to be?#how did the dreammaster come to be? (SHAKES THE GAME)#ok so i have to read more. so this will take longer#unfortunately maybe by the time i get all the information i want itll be too late and someone else wouldve said#SOMEONE PROBABLY DID#but i like the satisfaction of pulling the pieces together myself. thats the satisfaction of solving cases and puzzles ✨#my desk looks ridiculous now because its like. sticky notes everywhere because im like I HAVE TO MAKE NOTE OF THIS
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tradingjack · 1 year ago
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(wip) my large, buff vash agenda making its way into all my drawings
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boneskullravenriver · 5 months ago
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I don't understand why early 2010s YA tv shows didn't just make their characters college age because like... Y'all already treat these 16 year olds like they're 21-23 😭😭
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ibrithir-was-here · 1 year ago
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laniidae-passerine · 1 year ago
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Honestly I think Dean Highbottom has some shit to answer to as well. The mockery, the derision, the outright admittance that he was hoping Coriolanus would fail and the Snow family would continue to suffer. How someone who loathed the Games still treated a young man with cruelty because of the past, because of social divides that would be so easy to tear down. In the end, it wasn’t just Gaul who shaped Snow into the man he became. So bitter and hateful. So incapable of compassion and forgiveness. Just like his father. Just like his Dean.
#like yeah there were a lot of things questionable about Snow even before he was chosen as a mentor in the games#but like. damn. you didn’t even consider the idea he could be better than his father did you?#the way kindness could have unravelled some of the hate in Snow’s heart#listen to me tell you the horrible things your father did. listen to me tell you that you can be different. you are not the past.#the divides between us do not truly exist. look at the weapon in your hand. it is real. and it can do real damage#but if you never hate someone - if they never fool you into letting violence into your heart - they can never make you use it#it breaks my heart. how could you hate a ghost so much that you’d kill a child. I don’t know. but the Dean does. and so does Snow.#the cycles run and run until somebody stops. and burns some bread. and shares berries. and takes an arrow. and says no more. I love you#it is difficult. it could hurt me. it could be the very last thing I do. it may not even serve me well. but I love you. I love. always.#how pathetic hate makes you. how strong love makes you. like staring at the Dean and staring at characters like Haymitch#like two substance abusing men who know the system inside out. who are complicit. who are victims. both embittered and angry.#but one saw a child and decided to punish him for the past#and the other saw a child and decided - okay. it’s been 23 years. my heart hurts. I want to give in. I want to hate you. I want to not care.#I’m going to care anyway. I’m in so much pain. It’s killing me. I’m going to care anyway. about you both. it won’t be perfect. but I care.#and I’ll be here through hell. and I will fuck up. so fucking badly. because I’m still addicted and angry and god knows I have suffered.#god knows these hands are bloody and they always will be. but I will keep coming back. I will keep trying. I will still love.#and in the end I will write names in a book that belongs to you and I will find a little bit of peace in a house where the sun shines#and the geese make ridiculous noises in the yard. and love will have seen me through.#HAYMITCH YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS I LOVE YOU MY IMPERFECT DARLING#dean highbottom#coriolanus snow#the hunger games#a ballad of songbirds and snakes#haymitch abernathy#thg#abosas#suzanne collins#SHE WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS
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transgnckon · 2 years ago
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I just like I get being super intimidated by comics bc all my friends who knew me before saw me be like “I’m not gonna read the comics I’m here to watch these dc cartoon shows & thats IT. I’m gonna stay in this corner completely separate from whatever all of that is.” bc I didn’t rlly want to get too into it just bc it felt like so overwhelming
It’s also just crazy to me bc it took me forever to even get like a little bit of courage to talk to other comic fans when I did actually start reading them bc I’m like god there’s so much I don’t know & will continue to not know bc like I personally cannot commit to reading every single dc comic ever so whenever I see ppl who are talking about the batfam & then go “I’ve actually never touched a comic!” I just go
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gu6chan · 6 months ago
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My hot Drakengard take of the day is that after playing it for like 110 hours and counting im very much convinced that ppl who still complain about the gameplay being a "slog" just aren't playing the game correctly. you can hate me for this but you will not change my mind
#gu6chan's musings#drakengard#this isn't to say that it's not FLAWED (looking at you arbalesters...)#but i will say: three allies; seven types of weapons; SIXTY-FIVE WEAPONS IN TOTAL; ALL WITH DIFFERENT WEIGHTS; MAGIC; AFFECTS; ETC#now going back to flaws i will say its perfectly normal and not ridiculously hard to just beat the game without allies/using Caim's Sword#HOWEVER#i see way too many people complaining about this and that enemy being 'frustrating' when it rlly boils down to:#1. use a quicker weapon; or one with a longer range#2. THERE ARE BLOCK AND DODGE BUTTONS?????#the last part in particular x100000000 when you learn to actually block or dodge instead of letting yourself fall on your ass like a silly#little fool and then complain about bad game design the game itself becomes infinitely more playable#ill even argue that drakengards biggest flaw isn't even it's REPETITION (as a matter of fact; that's a strength) so much as the fact it#doesn't encourage/push players to explore and experiment with different weapons and features so much#anyways my advice: long-ranged (preferably fast for the latter!!) weapons for enemies like mages and arbalesters#lightweight weapons for quicker enemies like goblins so you can actually land a hit on them#and for god's sake; the dodge/block button exists for your benefit. use it#ALSO hitting enemies while jumping causes them to fall over and allows you a chance to crack a bit more at them if you have a weaker weapon#works REALLY good with quicker ones too!!!!!#oh AND there's a variation of the dash attack where when you speed up you can do a jump attack for extra points of damage PLUS get them to#fall over like mentioned prior. you can do it with your allies too and its a lot of fun#SPEAKING of allies don't forget them!! ever!!!! (heheh) ESPECIALLY not during later chapters they are there to help!!! let them!!!#uhhhh that should be it... maybe ill make a separate post with these tips but Drakengard is a fun game!! you just have to resist hypnosis!!#(and bad press)
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