#an anti establishment punk??
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divinesymmetry · 1 year ago
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as soon as this mf opened his beautiful Camden mouth, i realized that i would not escape the transmascs-love-spiderman stereotype
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hobi3brown · 1 year ago
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Heyo! I was wondering if you could help me learn more about punk culture and the origin of it? I found you from your fic and the posts connected to it and it looks pretty interesting (⁠•⁠ ⁠▽⁠ ⁠•⁠;⁠) it ok if not ! :)
of course! I’m always happy to help someone learn more. what sort of info are you specifically looking for? I’m still somewhat new to the subculture so I’m not sure how helpful some of my info might be but I’ll try my best to at least point you in the right direction *\(^o^)/*
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wayward-tides-collective · 2 months ago
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anti endos thinking they're punk. lol. lmao even.
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mitchyhawk · 7 months ago
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“grunge shein codes” “goth shein codes” “punk shein codes” i rly hope you know all of those subcultures will laugh in ur face. they’re literally anti-establishment, anti-capitalism, anti-consumerism, anti-corporate greed, & sm more. punk is literally based off DIY ethics 😭. anyway. thrift, shop second hand, estate sales or yard sales is the way to go. fuck your shein codes.
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barbieslutshamesken · 9 months ago
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nothing was ever there to be taken
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void-thegod · 1 year ago
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had a whole ass "debate" with some dude bc he just doesnt like HOW solarpunk is anti establishment
bro just wants grimdark dystopian bullshit like we have always seen
"it's just trees / star trek"
tell me you dont understand what a good civilzation looks like without telling me
solarpunk is EVERYTHING other types of punk are... except it is bright.
what is wrong with that???
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ifuckinghatebriansella · 2 months ago
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tfb is NOT folk punk fight me
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ghoulishautism · 2 months ago
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If I had to think of what I think Sam likes music wise, Id say Gothic Rock, DeathRock, and Dark Wave
I lean more towards punk and metal myself so I'm not as much of an expert on goth genres as id like to be, though
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adornesibley · 8 months ago
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CY_BORG may be one of the most gloriously anti-establishment games I’ve had the pleasure of reading through. I was certainly enjoying the world-building and the picture of this inescapable dystopia, but I think the moment I fell in love was the first page of the rules for the system. On this page it says, “You are encouraged to break every single rule in this book. Except this one.
Rule #00
Player characters cannot be loyal to or have sympathy for the corps, the cops, or the capitalist system. They might find themselves reluctantly forced to do missions for them or their minions. But make no mistake—they are the enemy.” Talk about a powerful thesis statement.
I do think if I ran a campaign in CY_BORG I’d likely want to make it a little more hopeful than the corebook. (in the sense that you could possibly have a chance of destroying the system and create something better, but I’ll wholly admit that to do this would require me to change or ignore certain aspects of the setting.) Of course, this is also to point out that TTRPG systems are intended to help facilitate telling a story that you and the people you’re playing with actually want to participate in, so if changes are needed, then they should be made.
Imagining this theoretical campaign I’d probably run at least three or four adventures in the system’s suggested way so the players can get REALLY disenfranchised with the world before I offer the seeds of sedition and revolution. 😁✨
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atomic-anarchist · 7 months ago
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“if you are not angry, you are not paying attention” is true now maybe more than ever. if you are not looking at the state of the world at the moment and thinking this is bullshit, are you really looking?
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nicklloydnow · 7 months ago
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“This campaign against Rowling is as dangerous as it is absurd. The brutal stabbing of Salman Rushdie last summer is a forceful reminder of what can happen when writers are demonized. And in Rowling’s case, the characterization of her as a transphobe doesn’t square with her actual views.
So why would anyone accuse her of transphobia? Surely, Rowling must have played some part, you might think.
The answer is straightforward: Because she has asserted the right to spaces for biological women only, such as domestic abuse shelters and sex-segregated prisons. Because she has insisted that when it comes to determining a person’s legal gender status, self-declared gender identity is insufficient. Because she has expressed skepticism about phrases like “people who menstruate” in reference to biological women. Because she has defended herself and, far more important, supported others, including detransitioners and feminist scholars, who have come under attack from trans activists. And because she followed on Twitter and praised some of the work of Magdalen Berns, a lesbian feminist who had made incendiary comments about transgender people.
You might disagree — perhaps strongly — with Rowling’s views and actions here. You may believe that the prevalence of violence against transgender people means that airing any views contrary to those of vocal trans activists will aggravate animus toward a vulnerable population.
But nothing Rowling has said qualifies as transphobic. She is not disputing the existence of gender dysphoria. She has never voiced opposition to allowing people to transition under evidence-based therapeutic and medical care. She is not denying transgender people equal pay or housing. There is no evidence that she is putting trans people “in danger,” as has been claimed, nor is she denying their right to exist.
Take it from one of her former critics. E.J. Rosetta, a journalist who once denounced Rowling for her supposed transphobia, was commissioned last year to write an article called “20 Transphobic J.K. Rowling Quotes We’re Done With.” After 12 weeks of reporting and reading, Rosetta wrote, “I’ve not found a single truly transphobic message.” On Twitter she declared, “You’re burning the wrong witch.”
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Phelps-Roper has taken the time to rethink her biases. She is now the host of “The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling.” The podcast, based on nine hours of her interviews with Rowling — the first time Rowling has spoken at length about her advocacy — explores why Rowling has been subjected to such wide-ranging vitriol despite a body of work that embraces the virtues of being an outsider, the power of empathy toward one’s enemies and the primacy of loyalty toward one’s friends.
The podcast, which also includes interviews with critics of Rowling, delves into why Rowling has used her platform to challenge certain claims of so-called gender ideology — such as the idea that transgender women should be treated as indistinguishable from biological women in virtually every legal and social context. Why, both her fans and her fiercest critics have asked, would she bother to take such a stand, knowing that attacks would ensue?
“The pushback is often, ‘You are wealthy. You can afford security. You haven’t been silenced.’ All true. But I think that misses the point. The attempt to intimidate and silence me is meant to serve as a warning to other women” with similar views who may also wish to speak out, Rowling says in the podcast.
“And I say that because I have seen it used that way,” Rowling continues. She says other women have told her they’ve been warned: “Look at what happened to J.K. Rowling. Watch yourself.”
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Phelps-Roper told me that Rowling’s outspokenness is precisely in the service of this kind of cause. “A lot of people think that Rowling is using her privilege to attack a vulnerable group,” she said. “But she sees herself as standing up for the rights of a vulnerable group.”
Rowling, Phelps-Roper added, views speaking out as a responsibility and an obligation: “She’s looking around and realizing that other people are self-censoring because they cannot afford to speak up. But she felt she had to be honest and stand up against a movement that she saw as using authoritarian tactics.”
As Rowling herself notes on the podcast, she’s written books where “from the very first page, bullying and authoritarian behavior is held to be one of the worst of human ills.” Those who accuse Rowling of punching down against her critics ignore the fact that she is sticking up for those who have silenced themselves to avoid the job loss, public vilification and threats to physical safety that other critics of recent gender orthodoxies have suffered.
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In the words of Fiennes: “J.K. Rowling has written these great books about empowerment, about young children finding themselves as human beings. It’s about how you become a better, stronger, more morally centered human being,” he said. “The verbal abuse directed at her is disgusting. It’s appalling.”
Despite media coverage that can be embarrassingly credulous when it comes to the charges against Rowling, a small number of influential journalists have also begun speaking out in her defense. Here in America, Caitlin Flanagan of The Atlantic tweeted last year, “Eventually, she will be proven right, and the high cost she’s paid for sticking to her beliefs will be seen as the choice of a principled person.
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Because what Rowling actually says matters. In 2016, when accepting the PEN/Allen Foundation award for literary service, Rowling referred to her support for feminism — and for the rights of transgender people. As she put it, “My critics are at liberty to claim that I’m trying to convert children to satanism, and I’m free to explain that I’m exploring human nature and morality or to say, ‘You’re an idiot,’ depending on which side of the bed I got out of that day.”
Rowling could have just stayed in bed. She could have taken refuge in her wealth and fandom. In her “Harry Potter” universe, heroes are marked by courage and compassion. Her best characters learn to stand up to bullies and expose false accusations. And that even when it seems the world is set against you, you have to stand firm in your core beliefs in what’s right.
Defending those who have been scorned isn’t easy, especially for young people. It’s scary to stand up to bullies, as any “Harry Potter” reader knows. Let the grown-ups in the room lead the way. If more people stood up for J.K. Rowling, they would not only be doing right by her; they’d also be standing up for human rights, specifically women’s rights, gay rights and, yes, transgender rights. They’d also be standing up for the truth.”
“But I do like the phrase, implying as it does a refusal to bow down to the establishment. Although we had a Labour government from 1974, it’s fair to say that the establishment of the 1970s was a fusty right-wing thing, sexist and racist and snobbish. But funnily enough, it’s still sexist and snobbish, in that women and the working-class are expected to obey (transvestite) men and the liberal elite respectively; it’s not racist in the old vulgar way but in a modish, middle-class way, dealing in the poverty of low expectations, seen best in that hilarious Labour election promise that only Jeremy Corbyn ‘can be trusted to unlock the talent of black, Asian and minority ethnic people’ when the Tory cabinet already featured more black, Asian and minority ethnic people than a Labour one ever had. Oh, and racism is also judging people on the colour of their skin as opposed to the content of their character – as Martin Luther King preferred – which is inherent in every diversity and inclusion drive, every taking of the knee, every ‘black-out’ theatre performance. When people of colour refuse to lose their agency by identifying as underdogs and waiting for whitey to save them (some to the point of becoming Conservative politicians), they may be called ‘coconuts’ and all sorts of nasty names – but in a caring, anti-racist way.
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Punk wasn’t ever left-wing – it was anti-establishment, so whatever the establishment is for, punk was against it. The anti-Lydon lot will always bring up The Clash as an example of a left-wing punk band, but this was more a difference of class origin than of politics proper; Joe Strummer was a lovely fellow, but he was also an upper-middle public schoolboy and thereby prone to a bit of P’n’P (poncing and posing) with his R’n’R. Of the other big punk bands, The Damned were about as political as The Munch Bunch, The Stranglers had a soft spot for the crazed Japanese militarist Yukio Mishima and The Jam were young patriots who pined for ‘the great empire’ and spat loathing at avuncular James Callaghan (‘The truth is you’ve lost, Uncle Jimmy!’). Unlike the cosy 1960s scene, they barely spoke to each other; that was the whole point of punk, to be different. But the rewriting of punk history by anxious middle-class lefties happened almost from the start; by the 1980s, punk was being recalled as a reaction against Thatcher’s Britain, despite it all kicking off three years before she became prime minister. Indeed, with her desire to destroy anything which seemed weak and outdated, there’s a case for saying that Mrs T was the most punk politician thus far. This was echoed in Sex Pistol Steve Jones’s autobiography Lonely Boy – surprisingly good – in which he understandably writes that he went into showbiz to make money as much as music, and that when he finally scraped enough royalties together to buy himself a second-hand car, Vivienne Westwood accused him of ‘selling out’. This would be the Vivienne Westwood who took an honour from the monarchy and was a shameless tax avoider. Hypocrite, heal thyself.
Punk was, as Westwood and McLaren so flagrantly demonstrated, always marbled with corruption, as indeed is every place where art meets showbiz; it gives it its piquancy. But punk is like a religion to some pathetic purists now. There was a long-running argument on a social media forum a few weeks ago about whether Anarchy In The UK was a call to real anarchic communal living. (No, that would be for the filthy hippies.) Others said (correctly) that it was simply a call to smash the status quo – and the status quo is now woke.
Punk can be traced back to historical anti-establishment art from the political cartoons of the 18th century, through Beyond The Fringe to Monty Python, all mocking the monarchy, judges, police and politicians. It couldn’t have started anywhere but England; someone said that Brexit was an amalgamation of South Downs Tories and snarling inner-city punks. It was only natural that the great charismatic loner contrarians of 20th century pop, Lydon and Morrissey, were in favour; If you’re independent and rebellious, you certainly weren’t going to be a remainer.
Predictably, the vast majority of those who identify as punks these days come across as extremely wet blankets who get their knickers in a twist over weird things; think of the hissy-fit Rage Against the Machine had over people who wouldn’t wear masks at their gigs and the American ‘punks’ who beat up ‘fascists’ who aren’t fascists in the least unless one uses the word in the manner of Rik in The Young Ones. Then we have the weirdest cause of all, trans. whereby privileged white men can whack on some rouge and call themselves women – the war for the soul of punk is being fought on this front, too.
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When I started out as a musician, I thought that punks were anti-establishment; then when my first album was released, I passed through the scene and realised it’s full of Stasi boneheads who love the boot when they’re the ones wearing it. Punks pretend to be rebellious musicians but act more like bureaucrats and propagandists who contribute nothing to music except a pathological hatred of women and the highest form of wokery I’ve ever personally encountered. Speaking your mind publicly is what making music is all about; freedom of speech and our hard-won rights as women – especially in male dominated music industry – is something that should be protected at all costs no matter what -ism we’re living under. But when the establishment and corporations support you, you are the establishment. So, for me being a Terf is about as punk as it gets.
I was there; I may not have liked the music much, but I lived the ribald and riotous experience that was punk – and I know a short-haired hippie when I see one. As I wrote in Welcome To The Woke Trials: ‘Woke is the revenge of the dullard on the wit, the curtain-twitcher on the headline-maker, the wallflower on the whirling dancer’ – add to that ‘the establishment stooge who believes himself righteous on the outlaw’. So, punk’s not dead – this time, she’s a Terf.”
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icanarachnid · 3 months ago
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In the morning when I leave my den I moisturize with the tears of men stir my tea with a crucifix I’m an ugly nasty commie bitch
In the evening, when I’m on the rag I rip up a couple of American flags Take a nice hot bath in the blood of the rich I’m an ugly nasty commie bitch
I try to think but it hurts my brain so I have an abortion & a fine champagne I’m a jezebel, I’m the wicked witch I’m an ugly nasty commie bitch
Weekends when I want some fun castrate a man, take away his guns Drive a classic car into a ditch I’m an ugly nasty commie bitch
I know I am but what are you? Some fascist bootlick nazi tool? a whiny boy with a tiny dick? or a dumbfuck redneck backward hick?
Did I get it right? Have I pegged you yet? maybe we don’t know who we ain’t met Maybe nobody wins but the already rich If you’re a dumb redneck & I’m a commie bitch
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doecrossing · 8 months ago
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the way ppl on this website talk abt punk like its nonconformity is a profound political statement and not just teenage-esque rebellion is so funny to me
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asexpistol · 25 days ago
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Poster I've made. I can give the document print link :)
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aromanticbastards · 11 months ago
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hey everyone this is your reminder that you dont have to be punk to be counterculture and that's okay
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cold-earth-connection · 5 months ago
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Idles absolutely going off at Glastonbury. Just got the whole crowd to chant "fuck the king" live on national television. Legendary balls.
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