#also this isn't explicitly shippy in any way but it's not Not shippy so you know i'm tagging it as them

[mangosaurus]

Ben Fitzgerald Pincus + Abandonment S1E05 • "Happy Birthday, Eddie! / S3E07 • "A Shock to the System"

[electricea]

SHIPPING INFO. Answer the following for your muse(s) so people know how shipping works on your blog.

What’s your OTP for your muse(s)?

I don't really have any OTP for him but I do have a bias for any ship that involves a fellow Phantom Thief since I do think there's already a strong foundation for trust and friendship there and to me, the progression to a romantic relationship would feel more natural.

What are you willing to RP when it comes to shipping?

I'd say most anything - like I've even said in my rules that I'm willing to do fade to blacks or to state or infer our muses have a sexual relationship (provided they would both be adults in said relationship) - I really only draw the line at writing sex/sexual acts or smut. I don't wish to write any of that and I'm not comfortable with it. Also, any sort of toxic or problematic relationship where it's abusive - physically, verbally, emotionally or otherwise - or in which one party is grooming the other or ignoring the other muse's boundaries or consent.

How large does the age gap have to be to make it uncomfortable?

For his main verse in which he's a teenager, I'd say I draw the line at shipping with eighteen, maybe nineteen year old muses - won't go any older than that if Ryuji is going to remain sixteen or seventeen. As for any alternate verses where he's aged up - that would honestly depend on the nature of the ship itself and how big the age gap is - but broadly, I'd say as long as they're both consenting adults, I don't see any issues - but with that being said, I probably wouldn't exactly be keen on shipping a freshly eighteen year old Ryuji with a thirty year old, for example.

Are you selective when shipping?

I don't really feel that I am - I look for chemistry first and foremost and I go from there - generally if someone expresses shipping to me or offers up a muse they'd like to ship with Ryuji then in nine out of ten instances, I'd say I'm pretty inclined to say yes - so long as the relationship isn't inappropriate or doesn't involve an adult being shipped with a teenager - also I guess what I try to keep an eye out and really look for is how that muse treats Ryuji - because if they're rude to him and don't really treat him all that well, then I would expect that to change - I'm not doing a ship where he continues to be treated like dirt.

How far do steamy moments have to go before they’re considered NSFW?

Any removal of clothes or touching is where I'd consider it NSFW, personally.

Does one have to ask to ship with you?

You don't have to explicitly ask - but bear in mind I'm not a mind reader so engagement on things like shipping calls, sending shippy memes does generally help because I am truly oblivious and have no clue when another mun is also interested in shipping - and to be fair, I do my part as well - I try to make shipping calls and show interest in shipping with others, so it's not just a one way street.

How often do you like to ship?

I kind of feel like I haven't shipped all that often lately - or at least, not many new ships - but I'd like to change that. Shipping's always quite fun.

Are you multiship?

Yep! Sorry, but shipping is just way too much fun to restrict it to only muse and plus I think part of the fun in being multi ship is that it allows you to explore a wide array of ships with all sorts of different muses and I try to treat each ship as its own individual, separate thing - so there's no cheating, no two-timing going on. There are no favourite ships, just a ton of really awesome ones with some amazing muns that I treasure equally.

Are you ship obsessed or ship more-or-less?

Uh, is there a neither option for this question? I like talking ships but I'm not ship obsessed - I don't do the Spotify playlists and moodboards, the matching promos or drabbles, etc - but I do enjoy and appreciate them - and it's not as though I'm indifferent to or annoyed by ships. I just like them and I like sharing headcanons whenever one pops into my head.

What is your favourite ship in your current fandom?

I don't really have a favourite ship - that's part of the fun of Persona, yeah? Gotta ship 'em all! (So long as we're excluding the Joker ships with the actual adult women lmao.)

Finally, how does one ship with you?

Uhh, send me shippy memes, like my shipping call, just come running into my dm's, say you want to ship? Just say it outright honestly - I'm not great at picking up on clues or hints, so yeah I might need to hear it actually confirmed by the other mun that they do in fact want to ship, but once I know, I'm happy to get the ball rolling.

Tagged by: @gamenu (Thank you!)

Tagging: Whoever would like to give this a go!

[hugduckhesgay]

About Fluffybird, what do you think about the ship? What is your opinion and analysis about the relationships between the two?

righto heheh let's crack into these chuddy Ds--

tldr; fluffybird is the purest ship and it would be great if it became explicitly canon

first of all, I think the creators shipped fluffybird before they saw all the fanart! Duck and Red Guy's interactions even in the webseries have sweetness, and can be perceived as a suggestion of romance. Though these interactions could be platonic as well, the possibility of romance is there, and that's all any slow-burn romantic storyline starts as. maybe one day i'll list those telling moments, but that's a lot of work. lol. Back to the creator's shipping, idk, that's just speculation, but I think they easily had a fondness for red guy and duck's brand of affection for each other.

There are random moments that are just so shippy. I think these have all been pointed out by other ppl. Duck painting Red Guy as Red Guy stands like that?

c'mon. The fact that they both want to be the dads? why put that idea in our heads? When red guy says his fav color is medium brown and duck's eyes are MEDIUM BROWN? I like to think that everything the creators have chosen to do is intentional and serves some kind of purpose other than comedic value... could be wrong there, but it's what I'd like to think. oftentimes the jokes have meaning behind them after all.

As for their dynamic, it is really interesting and nuanced! I don't rly see any hate between them, tho there ain't nothin wrong with liking the "divorced" dynamic. what I think is that they are made unaware of the feelings they have for each other. The 3 are constantly in a state of disorientation. I've seen people say that the fridge scene is one of the only times they get close to voicing their genuine thoughts and feelings without being controlled in some way, and I agree. however, when it comes down to it, duck displays great attachment to red guy, always looking at him for protection or initiative, wanting to be a family with him, etc. for red guy, well, we all saw what happened when duck died. he lost his damn mind, and he didn't expect to. it's like, as I said, he has feelings for duck that he isn't conscious of.

i have a bad silly theory that duck and red guy were in love and together before they became puppets or something lol. i dunno, it's possible for all we know.

now i want to address the arguments against having red guy and duck having a canon romantic relationship ((and it seems like very few people seem to have arguments! this fandom is fluffybird all over<3). it sucks, but i feel like most of these arguments are charged with homophobia or just romance shaming. romance is already present in the show, and it's all been cishet (superficially. B nice if chars came out as trans canonically? Lol). Yellow and Speshul One, Yellow and Clair. Regardless of context, romance is already present, and why does no one get upset about it? Because it's cishet, i'd argue. no one even notices it. now these are obviously satirical presentations which i thank god for, but it's still there.

we also already have tender moments between the three main guys. people might argue that 'why can't two guys just be friends?!?!' yeah, they can, and they are across 99% of media. is 99% of portrayals not enough? there is so little lgbtqia+ content that this argument is just ridiculous.

there's the argument that romance would 'ruin' the show somehow. sounds like an internalized problem to me tbh. adding romance wouldn't detract from the existing elements of friendship; it would embellish that, presenting a unique relationship that does not conform to the restrictive standards of society. (this would not be the case for a cishet romance, though I won't go into that.)

if people have a problem with fluffybird, I think they really gotta ask themselves why, really question where those feelings of discomfort are coming from. it's not like i'm asking for a nsfw scene. i think red guy and duck would have a romantic love language that is completely unique, like their confession to each other in the fridge scene. The way this show subverts tropes and makes things so weird, it would be so cool to see how it handles a genuine romance. I imagine it would be cuddly and lots of sweet words to each other, like what they do now but more explicit in that it is romantic love.

Anyway fluffybird is the purest ship I ever

[justsurvival]

SHIPPING INFO — answer the following for your muse(s) so people know how shipping works on your blog.

What’s your OTP for your Muse(s)?

multimuse that mainly writes ocs i will ship w anyone n everyone dont ask me to choose my favorite there isn't one (i lie . my favorite is Us. )

What are you willing to RP when it comes to shipping?

all ship dynamics are equally valued here ! yes that includes antagonistic, platonic, etc. i am an angst enjoyer first and foremost and can't lie but i love u hurt / no comfort. fluff is. meh to me? unless it's a brief respite between the horrors. i may write smut i may not. i enjoy talking about it if it comes up, but i defer to my partner's preferences. i love you dynamics between exes i love you older characters i love you mutual obsession and unhealthy / toxic dynamics (**not abusive) i love you mentor/mentee dynamics i love you thinking that everything is going to be fine and it only getting worse i love you becoming something worse than lovers

How large does the age gap have to be to make it uncomfortable?

involving a character under 25, i stick to 5 years. older than 25, i'd like for them to have not known eachother from before the younger was 25. frontal lobe development <3 ummm immortals are. waves hand. more nuanced. im straight up stealing from cupid now sorry smooches

Are you selective when shipping?

eeeeeeeeh ? if you're here on this blog and we are mutuals i will ship with you? like that's as selective as i get. i have some characters that are more ship-selective because they're very hard to ship with, i have too many similar dynamics with them, or some other thing. i generally prefer a good mix of chem + plot to ship. also if ur obviously face chasing... i dont care ? but like. please care about my character and their personality / backstory. thankies.

How far do steamy moments have to go before they’re considered USFW?

i'll be real with you i can't remember the last time i actively wrote something usfw on the dash. i'll dm you if i feel its heading that direction.

Who are other muses you ship your muse with?

is this a safe space to say i do think some of my muses would be fun (terrible) with eachother.

Does one have to ask to ship with you?

yessssnoooo? easiest way is to send a hey lets ship message or waowow im feeling smth between them are u message. i will likely agree with u. also open to being sent shippy inbox prompts if we don't have a ship on the contingency that you still need to explicitly tell me you're interested in shipping. i am autistic i have a hard time picking up things especially through the internet so i appreciate having a clearcut 'i would like ships' message because i generally will otherwise default to a platonic relationship. (this doesn't include those who i have many, many ships with)

How often do you like to ship?

23/6

Are you multiship?

my public characters are multiship, yes, but if we have a dynamic between our characters that is impactful enough to my character's development, i'll go single ship on that. any muses i make specifically for a ship / are listed as private are single ship <3

Are you ship obsessed or ship more-or-less?

obsessed but i always always include non-romantic dynamics in this.

What is your favorite ship in your current fandom?

stares at you with my big brown eyes. i write mostly ocs in original lore.

Finally, how does one ship with you?

please just ask its the easiest way for me otherwise we are gonna dance around it for eternity. holds ur hand. just message me.

[amphibifish]

should I read maloki because even though it's not the best adaptation I'm kind of curious. Is it worth reading

hmm it's really dependent on how much weird ship bait fan service (i think that's the term?) and general bad plot bullshit you're willing to put up with lmao. i go on a very long rant abt everything that sucks so umm yeah. everything i say is abt the manga unless stated otherwise

i'd def skip the chapter in the first season of the manga where loki gets cursed w a rune that makes him switch personalities cause it's really weird and bad and just weird. i'm not getting into specifics cause it's weird for me to describe but just like. skip it.

another thing thats weird for u to look out for is freyr's infatuation w mayura (who's a teen girl). in the anime its not as bad cause he's explicitly a teenager (he gets enrolled in her school with the purpose of saving her mystery club) but it's never said so in the manga so it kind of just looks like a grown man doting after this teen. actually on that, most of the gods are shown in some sort of shippy way with her at least once in the manga. narugami (thor) is probably the most normal occurrence since he's explicitly a high schooler in both the anime and manga. there's a scene where heimdall (who's also like a middle schooler like loki is) kisses mayura to make loki jealous or whatever. just to piss him off.

loki also gets ship bait with a lot of the female chars too like w mayura freyja and skuld. it's. yeah you know how it is

less weird things but just kind annoying plot things that happen are loki getting out of heimdalls assignation attempts with weak explanations and also the author doing the thing where you're assumed to dislike heimdall so the sometimes the plot just shits on him for no reason (there's a chapter where loki and heim get magically transported to a magic school and he spawns in already copying lokis homework and everyone yells at him for it. bro did NOTHING !!!)

i will say that after you get past that first season of the manga it's so much better on the weird bullshit tho ! ragnarok is much better abt it and doesn't have any so bad i recall immediately and shinsekai no kamigami doesn't either. that isn't to say the plots for those aren't kinda sucky too but they're better than whatever the first season put out.

the anime gets rid of sooo much of this weird bullshit and i think does some characters better (heim and freyr get more of a proper emotional bond with each other. as sad as it is i really like what they did with hel and i personally like loki and mayura's dynamic more in the anime) but unfortunately it's majority filler so the manga has a better plot so u kinda just have to decide what you're willing to put up with fsfsfs

actually on that freyja is better written in the manga i think than the anime once again we cannot win both versions just suck. she's still kind of portrayed as loki obsessed in the manga but not to the awful degree that the anime does.

there's the occasional homophobic remarks in the manga but that's few and far between and so i choose to just ignore it.

not fault of the author but also some scanlations have really weird translators notes on some of the chapters too.

as for what's good about it. it's really heimdall and lokis conflict. it's interesting i think because of lokis feelings towards heimdall out of guilt and drives a lot in the first and third season of the manga (it's a little bit forgotten in the middle of the anime lol). i think freyr and heimdall are funny characters and i like every chapter with them in it as do i like every scene in the anime with them in it. they sort of have that odd couple dynamic and it's nice to see heimdall warm up to freyr over the course of the show and become better friends. mayura without the ship bait is also a fun character i think ! she's a mystery obsessed highschooler who loves the supernatural and so she sticks around loki who's a detective a child and an exorcist! thor is also a fun char and he's lokis best friend and mayura's classmate who has a shit ton of jobs. yamino is jormungandr and he's there but to me he's not the most interesting char. i can't say much about the plot without spoilers but it's okay and gets interesting in ragnarok. overall the characters are what makes it fun for me and thus i ignore much of canon and think about them in the vacuum chamber of my mind lol.

but yeah that's my review ig of maloki. it's Not Good but i think if you're looking for something fun ragnarok is an okay read cause the characters are silly in that one and it's not so weird and also has the best plot probably. shinsekai no kamigami is also fun and i think that plot is super interesting BUT like i said its half unscanlated. and then if you're gonna start from the very beginning i would just skip any chapter that has the weird bullshit it's probably not plot relevant anyway. the anime is more lighthearted i think and has more character bonding time but it's also a lot a lot a lot of filler. so yeah.

i'm so sorry this got so so long but i had a fun time complaining because i have a lot to complain about and i hope this helps lmao

[loregoddess]

Violence breeds violence or... Something.

Anyway, 1, 16, 25 and one of your choice?

And the cycle never ends? or something I suppose.

1. the character everyone gets wrong

Oh, so many. I won't go on a list or anything bc I know 99% of them are "I seem to have a really specific way of reading characters and it seems to be very different from how pop fandom reads them" but god are there a lot. I think the most recent that I'm fine pointing out would be Ferdinand, Ashe, and Cyril from FE3H (amongst other characters), but I won't go into details bc I know you're holding off on spoilers.

Not specific to those characters but I still have a bone to pick: I think the general commonality is just that some fans latch on to some sort of surface aspect of characterization and decide the character's entire existence revolves around that instead of like, the actual nuance that the writing clearly shows otherwise. This especially irks me for characters explicitly stated or shown to mask or suppress a lot of their emotions but don't fall into the "stoic and emotionless" trope, like, whenever a character puts up some sort of façade that comes off as friendly or snarky or really anything that isn't an obvious "this is a mask to hide their inner emotions", then suddenly the fanon for the character becomes as interesting as a sack of flour. Which is an insult to sacks of flour to be honest.

Sometimes this is the fault of the writers or developers, like Fates is a goldmine of "I swear this character is really super interesting if you actually look at what writing they get" bc there's over 70 characters and I can imagine that was difficult to juggle on top of three different routes. But sometimes it's "this is literally one of the main characters who got all the writing, how did you miss all this about their characterization!!!" But again, this is very much probably a me thing, and it's not like I'm gonna fight people over how they chose to interpret a character.

16. you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

Hmm, I'm not actually wildly fond of most "tsundere" characters bc they have to be a really, really specific flavor of tsundere for me to actually enjoy the characterization, but most of the time the character is so abrasive and rude that they just come off as an asshole.

Also--and this is not a jab at literally any artist in existence who's done this--but when shippy fanart emulates Gutav Klimt's "The Kiss" I want to throw a chair across the room. It's not that it's a bad painting, or even that I dislike Klimt bc I don't! Something about the figure posing for that painting specifically just gives me whatever the visual equivalent is to hearing nails on chalkboard, and I just. Really, really think there's more romantic historic paintings with less visually grating anatomy poses out there that can be emulated for shippy art. This is very much a Me thing, so again it's not like I'm gonna tell people to not draw fanart based on "The Kiss" bc everyone's free to do whatever they please and all, but the popularity of that one historic painting specifically is wild.

25. common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing

Oh hmm, all the "Fates is bad" complaints (it really wasn't), almost everything around 3H, people comparing Engage's art-style to Genshin (it's not similar at all), complaints about how simple Engage's story/characters are (they aren't, but I'm not here to write a narrative analysis).

As a general rule for not-FE-specific examples, people ragging on what I call "black sheep games" (games in a series that are almost universally disliked by the fandom regardless of whether the game was good or not)--oooh, discussions and complaints about black sheep games drive me insane, no matter if I enjoyed the game or not, I just really, strongly dislike seeing hateful rants about how bad a game was for not being An Exact Copy Of The Series' Golden Child Game. Like sure, vent the frustrations, that's healthy and all, but keep the negativity out of the tags or at least tagged in a way that can be filtered for people cruising the tag and not looking for negativity at the very least.

for my personal choice, 10. worst part of fanon

Circling back to the first question, for me it's fanon character interpretations and headcanons that become so popular they end up as fanon. I find it frustrating because I like to theorycraft and think about characters based as closely to the canon text as I can, but revisiting the source text for accuracy sometimes isn't easy (especially if a game script hasn't been uploaded for a game that requires lots of hours to play). So while the experience of the original text can take up a lot of time, revisiting it isn't a constant or continual thing, whereas fandom continues the "story and characters" in a sense beyond the bounds of the original narrative. Which is a great way to keep things alive and stuff, but it also means that what a character was actually like in the original text can get warped through the simulacra of fandom, and popular fanon just speeds up that warping process. So if I want to revisit a character or even sometimes just worldbuilding lore stuff to have fun crafting some theories, I have to take a step back and try to figure out how much of the fanon stuff I've seen is actually accurate or not, and often have to go back to the original text anyhow and then be disappointed or frustrated with how much less interesting and nuanced the fanon typically is and how little discussion there is around what actually occurs in the original narrative.

Mind this isn't for like, every character or every bit of worldbuilding, since sometimes the fanon is "wow the writers were super sexist, maybe we should reinterpret this female character in a kinder light" and so while I'd still have to revisit the source text to understand the original characterization, the fanon might actually be more interesting in that regard. But this is...a rarity.

Also, sometimes a character's entire characterization gets sucked into the black hole that is fandom's obsession with shipping, and that's also frustrating bc then the character doesn't seem to exist in fan works outside of the ship, despite (very often at least) being their own individual character in the original text. Like listen, I don't hate shipping, I've got my own fleet of ships I enjoy or am partial to, but I wish it wasn't so central to some fandom spaces that occasionally a character's characterization vanishes into "part of this one popular ship".

[project-sekai-facts]

thanks so much for the addition!! i hope you don't mind me adding your tags on ^^"

as someone who has played multiple other games in this sort of genre, prsk definitely is that game which has the most cnesorship by a mile. Like that parechu example from bandori honestly isn't that bad? I think the JP part for the second sentence is better, but EN made the I love you part honestly even more shippy than it was in the original text. And although I haven't played bandori for a long time now, I really don't recall them trying to work around every single usage of the word love or whatever like proseka does.

D4DJ doesn't really do it either, I can maybe think of a couple instances, but the fandom is very small so fan TLs and JP content is pretty hard to come by. Also it's literally like one or two poorly translated lines, you can very much still tell where there's romantic feelings written in because it's left in like 99% of the time. Maybe it's not the fairest comparison considering how explicitly queer D4DJ is, but still, proseka does have quite a bit of shiptease and sometimes outright subtext, and only occassionally does it actually make it to the EN server.

I have no clue why it's just proseka (i don't know enough about enstars to comment, i know there's issues with Arashi, but idk if there's any subtext between the boys that has been edited). Maybe they think it's too controversial or something? But come on, shipping is a big thing in idol game fan communities - worldwide - and especially the slash and femslash pairings are very popular and a big selling point. D4DJ literally got more popular after they added Hayate and Kokoa (who are canonically dating). Especially in online spaces (where y'know, the game gets free promotion via word of mouth) idol games are incredibly popular amongst queer people, a lot of people get into project sekai for things like that, and are incredibly unsubtle about it in twitter interactions, so it's... definitely a strange decision being made by staff.

Even weirder that An/Kohane content is rarely being altered (and maybe it's because some of their interactions can't be altered for various reasons, but also they're like, the only characters in the game to regularly get daisuki translated as i love you from what i remember). As a counter point to the an/kohane thing, me and some friends discussed that maybe they give them a pass because An is very affectionate and because of that then maybe it could be read in a platonic way when she says "i love you", but as a counter-counter point her relationship with kohane is outright described as them "seeing each other" in her Peak Excitement card story. It's... odd.

what's most surprising is that ensekai is definitely the highest budget out of the main idol games on the market rn. as far as i know, the en server is primarily operated by SoA, and I assume they're doing the translations because i don't think clpl has a branch for that and uh, why would they remove stuff they wrote in the first place? I dunno what sega's deal is either, considering some of their other franchises have queer characters. Obviously this game has a specific branch working on it, but you get my point - what the fuck sega?

i mean the en server is probably the most poorly managed of the bunch, which really. says something. censors aside, the translations can generally be pretty crappy. constant typos that never get fixed, even to the point of literally giving false information about a character and then contradicting that in the same sentence because they fucked half of it up. not to mention "that's showbiz baby" which you might remember if you've been here since launch, and also the fact the writers often struggle with rui's more poetic ways of speaking (good example here if you ignore the actual fact and just focus on the official vs fan TL). there was also the struggle with translating aibou in the earlier days too, which... might've been because they wanted to avoid the possible romantic connotations of the english word "partner". ensekai is just really poor for something presumably really high budget and something this popular.

i kinda steered away from my original point a bit there but ensekai just disappoints me a lot. there's always been censorship or otherwise "toning down" of queer subtext.

take this example from the mmj main story. admittedly "having feelings for someone" kinda makes this more shippy, but you'll never fucking guess what she says in the original text (suki. she says suki. "feelings" is a roundabout way of them saying "love"). like sure i could excuse the examples from the main story at the time because the translation was still Fine i guess, but it's at a point now where it's very obviously intentional. as you said, it's malicious, and it's erasure. sure the writing is ambiguous in the original version at times, but the fact that EN isn't even trying with the ambiguity and is just straight up getting rid of even vague things is, and i'm gonna fucking say it plainly, homophobia.

How are we feeling about ensekai’s emu3 translation!!! (I’m mad)

(if you remember the 3 whole posts i made when asahi got de-gayed on EN you'll know i am mad too and that this is probably going to get long)

i don't like to be too cynical but it was so obvious that they were going to change that line, i had a feeling since the event first released on JP and after the incident with Asahi where I went through and tracked down multiple other examples of EN removing queer subtext it became clear to me that in no way shape or form was "emu-chan really loves nene-chan" making it to EN without getting changed. what i didn't expect was them changing Nene's line after Luka's comment, which actually makes this whole situation far worse than many of their other instances of toning down queer subtext.

for anyone who isn't aware of what happened, in chapter 5 of the current Emu event, there's a scene where Nene, Rui and the Virtual Singers are talking about what would cheer Emu up. The vsingers all talk about how much Emu loves spending time with Nene, leading to the following exchange

If you look for them, any fan TL of this scene will be something similar to this:

Luka: ...Fufu. Emu-chan really loves Nene-chan, doesn't she? Nene: Th-that's nothing special...

EN's official translation is this:

So what's the issue? I'll start with Luka's part. In the original text, she uses the word daisuki, which can mean to "like a lot" or "love". It's a word you will see frequently in the idol/idol-adjacent genre of games, due to its ambiguity in that it can be read as either platonic or romantic when used towards a person, and often will be used in ambiguous situations so that it's harder to confirm the writers' intentions either way. so here, fans of the emu/nene ship could view the fact that emu loves spending her time with nene as more on the romantic side, but people who don't like the ship could view it as platonic and move on.

while they didn't translate daisuki directly, Luka's line still works, and still contains the ambiguity that works as ship tease in the original text. it's a perfectly fine localisation that still conveys the original intent. despite that, there is something to be said about EN's consistent refusal to translate daisuki as love in most instances when it's not used on An/Kohane (but then again, EN has literally teased An/Kohane on their twitter account so is it all that surprising?).

Here's some examples:

Aibou no koto ga daisuki de / he loves his partner -> he cares about his partner very much (The Power of Unity chapter 7 when Kaito is comparing Arata to Akito and Toya)

HARUKA-CHAN, DAISUKI DAYOOOO!!! / HARUKA-CHAN, I LOOOOOVEEE YOU!!! -> You're the best!!! (Dear Me, As I Was Back Then chapter 4 when minori is at an ASRUN concert. this one isn't actually that great of a localisation)

Honachan no koto daisuki dakara. Kore de iinda yo. / I love Honachan, so this is fine. -> I want what's best for her. And this is it. (Leo/need main story chapter 14 after Saki tells Honami she won't bother her anymore)

Minna daisuki de - taisetsuna tomodachi na no / I love them all - they're my dearest friends -> They're all amazing, and very dear to me. (Leo/need main story chapter 17. this isn't good either)

What's particularly amusing about that last one is that there's a second official translation for it that I assume was done by JP staff (since EN never promoted doing the Journey to Bloom subs like they did back when they provided subs for Petit SEKAI) that actually keeps the word daisuki as love.

Yeah. I love all my friends - and they mean the world to me.

It's a better localisation than the official EN team one.

Questionable localisation choices aside, Luka's line is fine and is actually in line with the original. The issue with this localisation very much lies with Nene's part, because that is an entirely new line.

In the original text, Nene's "that's just normal" or "that's nothing special" or however you choose to TL it, is meant to be her questioning Luka's statement, since all the things that the other vsingers said that Emu liked were pretty normal things like going shopping and playing video games with nene. To Nene, these things are normal activities for them to do together, so she gets embarrassed by the fact that Luka concludes from that information that Emu loves Nene. When I dissect it like that I think you can really tell what the writers were going for here lol.

"That's just us being friends" does still convey the idea that Nene thinks these activities aren't anything out of the ordinary and she isn't sure why the vsingers are picking these out as some of Emu's favorite things to do, but it's very different from the original line. "But those are just normal things we do together" is something I just came up with on the spot, but it's a lot closer to the original text and still conveys the same meaning. The fact they changed the line to "that's just us being friends" is, honestly, not even subtle that they're covering up queer subtext. The original scene was very clearly written in as ship tease, and EN mentioning "friends" for no reason, especially since the word nor anything close to it was not used in the original, is instantly a red flag because it's like the go-to for queerbaiting and censorship. This was intentional. There was no need for them to specify that the relationship is platonic, Luka's part is ambiguous for a reason so that fans can view it how they like.

Just to top all this off, here's Rin's original line just before that Luka+Nene interaction:

Oh, and! And! She said that playing games with Nene-chan is also super fun!

And here's Rin's line from the official EN translation:

That's not the same thing, but even more weirdly, the incorrect part (super fun->really loves) is a correct translation for the part changed in Luka's line. So, they can do it, they are willing to say "really loves", just not in the right places. Maybe because Rin's part is less personal than Luka's part? It's strange actually, this isn't the first time they've done this either. Off the top of my head I can think of an example from Shiho's Varied Kindness 2* story where they translated the word "suki" as really loves, despite that being much stronger than the original word used (and the fact that daisuki is used a lot in the Leo/need stories and it's incredibly rare if not entirely unknown for them to translate it correctly).

It's not subtle that they're trying to remove implications of the characters possibly being queer, they did it in curtain call and they did it in walk on and on, and multiple times before then too. And considering some of the content in this year's events and the amount of times they say daisuki alone, it's gonna keep happening. honestly i hate the fact that i keep trying to justify the translations in these posts. these translations are intentional. what happened in the curtain call translation back in october says enough. when a character who uses explicitly romantic language towards another guy passes as a straight character in the translation you know they're doing it on purpose.

oh and once again, it's only the EN server that has this issue. The scene in question was translated almost word-for-word on the TW and KR servers.

read fan translations. they're better than what EN gives us and people put a lot of effort into them.

[watatsumiis]

today i am thinking about... being kept company by favs while in a low spoons/introverted kind of mode..

(Just some general hcs and such, g/n reader, referred to as 'you'! not explicitly shippy)

Characters: Ayato, Capitano, Childe, Dottore, Pantalone, Pierro, Thoma, Zhongli

Ayato would be more than happy to keep you company - he probably quite likes having someone else nearby that isn't a retainer or something while he's doing his paperwork - I'd imagine he struggles a bit with social burnout on occasion too with how often he has to take charge of conversations, and thus sometimes he will request some 'chill time', especially once he's realised that you both benefit from it. He's often left to his own devices when he's doing his paperwork (apart from Thoma coming up to bring him snacks and drinks) so his study is kind of a safe haven away from the hustle and bustle of the outside world (and even when it's not, Ayato would definitely find you somewhere quiet to sit if you need it <3)

Honestly almost any time with Capitano would be some kind of 'quiet time', I headcanon him to be a very quiet individual, a man who lets his actions do all of the talking. It's actually more of a struggle to get him to engage in a normal conversation (especially if it isn't to do with a subject he's interested in), so hangouts with him often end up with silently watching a movie together or engaging in some form of parallel play (he likes to read -- though I can also see him engaging in some low-key, quiet exercises like tai chi, maybe yoga). I may be projecting here (which I think I'm allowed to because we know next to nothing about him and ive latched onto him like a remora fish), but i imagine that he actually struggles a lot with speaking aloud and socialising and will occasionally go non-verbal when he's had a particularly long or overwhelming day, so sitting quietly doing your own things works great for him.

I'm sorry but Childe can NOT stay still for long enough for either party to benefit from some sit-down quiet time, he's a high-key sensory seeker and is never quiet, he needs to be in the centre of attention or doing at least 3 things at once or he'll explode - he fidgets and wanders and asks annoying/insensitive questions like "hey are you done being quiet now?" he can be really draining to be around but if you tell him you're having a bad day or something he can be super sweet, bringing you treats and gifts and letting you snuggle up to him!

Chill time with Dottore is... unnerving, to say the least. After a mini questionnaire about your day and what led up to you feeling like this, he finally lets up and allows you to sit with him as he goes about whatever business, but eventually you find that he keeps glancing up at you with increasing frequency, his head tilted to the side as he just... observes you.

Pantalone probably chuckles and teases a bit, something along the lines of "oh, you couldn't even go a whole day without me? How sweet." He's another one who doesn't fully understand why someone might want what is essentially 'alone time' in tandem with another person, but he's fine with it as long as you aren't in the way or being distracting, though I feel like he could be kind of strict about it, especially when he's highly stressed, it feels more like being in detention than anything else.

Pierro probably enjoys it (but would never admit it), he probably won't even acknowledge someone walking into the room unless they speak to him directly, so it's really easy just to walk in and sit on a chair near him and just enjoy his presence (though he totally has that old man throat clear/sneeze). Bonus points if you bring him a coffee - he'll tell anyone who walks in looking for you that you're working on something for him and should be left alone.

Thoma is in a similar situation to Childe but he actually knows how to regulate himself well enough to not disturb or bother you - if he has some kind of quiet chore to sit down and do (like folding laundry, sewing or knitting) then he's more than set to keep you company for a while - he'll also offer to make you food and drinks, just like he does when you're sad or upset. I think he struggles to differentiate between upset/just needing some quiet time, but he really does mean well!

I think Zhongli would kind of struggle with the idea at first, it's kind of a non-traditional way of hanging out that he's not used to, he's such a talkative person and will just infodump about the first things that come to his mind because he likes to share things with you, but once he's warmed up to the idea he's more than happy to just sit in the same room while he works on some paperwork for the funeral parlor or reads, only occasionally breaking the silence to tell you something he's deemed to be very interesting or important.

Please don't copy or steal my work! Reblogs are always super appreciated though :D If there's a character not included here (or just someone you want me to elaborate more on), I'm more than happy to put something together, just send me an ask!

[majimasleftasscheek]

I want to write some smutty fic + plot with kiryu and majima, but I've only played kiwami 2 so I'm scared I don't know enough about them as characters. Any tips or suggestions? (also bless your art c:)

klsdjkld thank you also I'm super flattered you'd come to me for tips 🥺���� I can give a lil insight from things in the games so I’ll try not to be explicitly spoilery but just giving a heads up in case

so obvs I speak from a shippy dippy perspective but they do genuinely care about each other, especially in y3. Majima's a person Kiryu trusts and Majima's equally someone who would willingly do whatever to help out people he cares about. Majima's the type to be like yeah I'll die for you (serious)

since you've played 2, then you can very much see how Majima's willing to get back into Tojo bullshit cuz Kiryu asked him to. It's certainly telling that Kiryu goes to Majima of all people for help when it comes to Tojo shit which I think is a nice way to show he respects him to some degree. As nice as Kiryu is tho, he can still be a rude lil turd and likes to make jabs. He’s got a tendency to say shit he thinks is cool even if its inappropriate lol

also like, Kiryu doesn't really know how to read Majima but also I don't think Kiryu knows how to read many people tbh. There's a wild freeness about Majima that Kiryu enjoys seeing and indulging in, like when they fight and he seems to actually have fun with it. I don't think he's 100% aware of why he enjoys it or why he's willing to put up with Majima's dumbassery but Kiryu doesn't really need answers. Majima is Majima and that simplicity works for him

there's a lot of stuff in Dead Souls that gives insight into Majima and because I'm ill of course I know all of it. Lots of softie moments, Majima's a bit of a control freak about his appearance, he's an ass but it's playful assholery, he loves his subordinates even if he's a turd @ them, he's forgetful as shit, he's a bit of a stickler for rules - by the book type of stuff. THERE'S ALSO a part with a lil girl and he's so cute and awkward with her and it fulfills my dadjima addiction. I think Maji would love Haruka very much and Kiryu would be pleasantly surprised by that side of him

in y3, it's Kiryu's big dad simulator so you get to see him being a wise old fart even if sometimes he's a total boomer and embarrassing. He tries his best and has the best intentions but honestly his lone wolf attitude is often his downfall. Kiryu's very much a "I'll take a bullet for you even if there's other options to definitely not take a bullet" type of guy. He blames himself for a lot of problems out of his control and he's got quite the track record of running away from things if he feels like it'll be for the greater good of everyone else (it isn't lol). Suffer in silence sort of dude

they honestly don't interact much after 3 tbh cuz I guess it was too gay lmao but uhhhh they're definitely still motivated by each other's actions. 5 is very big on Kiryu beats up a lot of people again™, due to something that happens to Majima. At that point, Kiryu's life is quite far removed from the whole yakuza thing so I think it says a lot that he throws himself back into the fray for this bowlcut bitch

also! Majima’s wacky but it’s most certainly a façade. He’s very capable of toning it down in serious situations and equally, Kiryu’s a funky dude! Majima’s the type to put up fronts for his image while Kiryu’s very reserved but will absolutely go all out on something cuz he just can’t not put his 100% into everything even if it’s silly

I tried to keep things mostly factual based on the games with a couple of my own hcs thrown in so I hope it helps!!

I have another post I'm writing for like deep angsty shit for another ask so if that'll be of use to you, keep an eye out for that :)

[infinitelysordinary]

HI OKAY so with double life coming out and with an increase in shipping, i wanted to clarify some things re: shipping on my blog:

i'll tag everything dlsmp with #/ double life smp!! if you don't want to see any dlsmp content, just spoiler that tag :D

inherently romantic posts will be spoiled with #trafficshipping, no matter how canon it is. i also assume most fanart/fanfic is platonic unless it explicitly is romantic (eg. a kiss, marriage, etc). mentions of soulmates won't be under the tag #trafficshipping, because i do not view that as inherently romantic

i use the same duo tag for shippy posts and non shippy posts (eg. #/ smalletho); it makes more sense in my brain that way. if you are not comfortable with shipping but still want to see the duo posts, just ban #trafficshipping.

(if you have a complaint about this tagging system, please dm me and i'll see what i can do!)

(i am also a big jizzie/fh fan, which isn't really applicable to dlsmp, but i just wanted to mention. all posts regarding that will be tagged with the appropriate smp shipping tag as well as #/ jizzie or #/ flower husbands. regardless, this probably isn't the blog for you if you feel icky about either.)

thank u all :D have a nice day!

[gubler-garbage]

Dude you don’t know how cathartic it is to read your thoughts on the shipping culture in always sunny. Whenever I get into a piece of media for the first time my go-to move to get content about it is to go on tumblr, and when I did that for iasip I genuinely thought I was going crazy. Seeing the sheer amount of shipping posts made in complete sincerity made me wonder if I was missing something? So I suspended my disbelief thinking maybe some crazy shit happened in the seasons I hadn’t seen yet, but lo and behold that’s not the case lmao. Also this is a way smaller thing to complain about but the fandom’s intense focus on Mac and Dennis (on tumblr at least) makes it so there’s way less content for Charlie (that’s how it feels to me, but maybe I’m wrong) which bums me out. Anyway, sorry for the long ask, I just wanted you to know that someone did read your long post and appreciated it a lot.

thanks you so much!! It's been really lovely hearing from y'all. I don't want to come off too critical of the fandom because generally speaking and having been on this garbage site for almost 10 years, the people in this fandom are kind and respectful towards each other with very little vicious or angry discourse and even if I don't agree with quite a few takes, I do enjoy reading what everyone thinks because a lot of y'all have really thoughtful critiques of the show and its creators. It's really just the really hardcore shippy side of the fandom that puts me off a bit. I don't have any problem with shipping or anything, macden is a ton of toxic fun but I definitely agree with you that the way people talk about them as if its not just a ship but a foregone canon conclusion is quite strange honestly. Like I think it would be a really interesting direction for the show but the way people talk about them seems like a incredible reach and a recipe for intense disappointment. I feel like its a more common thing now that people aren't just content with shipping something, they need it to be canon. There is no such thing as a "correct" interpretation of art, interpretations can be ill informed, ignorant etc but it isn't "wrong" and trying to impose your interpretation on others is really just obnoxious. Imo half the fun of shipping is exploring the dynamics of characters that would never be addressed in the show or expanding on different plots or characters that you think are interesting but never really made it to being a large part of the show or movie or whatever. I just personally don't understand this attachment to something being made explicitly canon (but obviously when I say that I'm not referring to queerbaiting and the like from shows like supernatural, I definitely understand where people are coming from with that, like I was a Richonne stan in twd fandom lol). I have seen people try and make the "queerbaiting" argument for sunny and that one really gets me goin like absolutely livid like some of you really love to try and co-opt serious issues of representation for your dumbass shipping discourse, it drives me up a god damn wall. It's really transparent when there is so so (cannot be over expressed) so god damn much to criticise about sunny but (and of course this is only my personal opinion but I feel like it's a pretty solid consensus) the way Mac's sexuality and coming out was treated (in the latter half of the show once the decision was actually made to take that path with his character) was with the utmost reverence and respect that it deserved. Of all the misteps made by sunny Mac's coming out and acceptance is absolutely not one of them. Personally I feel Mac is one of the most important pieces of representation currently on tv and the idea that out of the incredibly long list of criticisms for the show some of the fandom have decided "queer-baiting" is the primary issue is unbelievable to me. Like first of all the fundamental misunderstanding of what the term even means is endlessly frustrating but also reeks of that Community meme "I can excuse racism but I draw the line at my gay ship not being canon". It's petty and childish and devalues all of the very important discussion to be had surrounding representations of queer characters.

I'm so sorry, I got so off track on this one gang. One last thing I really have absolutely no problem with the popularity of macden, they're a real fun ship and people are free to post whatever they please. Personally I love my sweet baby rat boy charlie and wanted to see more of him so I jumped headfirst into that brainrot and made the content myself lol.

Just really wanna reiterate cos I feel like I might come off a bit aggressive in this, I love you macdens y'all are making super cool content and amazing art and if that's the direction the show ends up going I'll be more than happy! All fandoms have some bad takes goin on, thats half the fun lol.

[orenonahaichigoda]

About My Character

Can range from almost totally canon to a verse I have a grand project of but only a couple of prequel fics so far produced on ao3 under chairdesklamp to whatever me and the people I'm playing with come up with when planning a thread.

Almost totally canon as in the one change is Ichigo's trans, he's been so for a couple of years pre-series, and Issin is his provider. So he can't have kids with a cis Orihime. That's really the only thing I can think it majorly changes.

Also, he's explicitly mixed instead of "big deal not-black hair that's never gonna be explained." If you play a mixed/not Japanese Masaki, I'll match what he's mixed with to you. I do h/c Issin as Ainu, but that's not really a big deal for me.

I really like a *well-thought-out* grimmichi, because they are literary foils, but I'm here for plot. I'm willing to do most any parings that's not with his relatives (including the Isidas) or either lesbian, Soi-Fon or Chizuru. Because that just would read as lesbophobia. Do not like when they're paired with guys in fic. There are some characters I see him with easier (like Chad) or their relationship doesn't read like it could grow into that (Renji), or just ones he doesn't really have screen time with (Shunsui, Rangiku, Kaname) but I'm willing to be surprised.

About me section will include queerphobia in Japan vs. the English speaking world. Don't assume it's the same.

Ichigo's generally not super out, but he will open up to your character if you play your cards right. Or if it's heading in a shippy direction.

He's not stereotypically absolutely dysphoric about everything. I'm not the only trans person I know like that, so I chose to write it as an awareness thing. In the aforementioned project, he's not the only one who isn't, but there's also a few who are.

And yes, that does mean I write him having kids. I can't say whether or not mpreg stuff is intentionally transphobic or just coincidentally without knowing what trans people are, like the Beatles' song "JoJo," which probably was written with no clue, but seriously, trans men who aren't dysphoric about it can do that. There's no one true way to be anything, including trans. Totally open to that.

He's definitely ace-spec. I related to that part before I knew what asexuality really was. They take great pains to make sure you know (at least sometimes?) when Orihime is flirting, but it goes over his head. I'm not 100% sure where I wanna take him. Probably something like panromantic demisexual. I want to keep my possibilities wide open for shipping, and I also want him to take initiative in some situations.

All the same, he would probably have some trouble. He clearly also doesn't know how to discuss emotions and bottles things up, just like he tried his best to bottle up his depression over losing his powers, and probably also trauma incurred at essentially becoming a child soldier and having zero training on how to deal with bloody battles. (Though he'd be hard-pressed to find a therapist he could talk to) I plan to explore all these in the aforementioned project, but I'd love to walk him through all this here, too!

Returning to a prior point, I don't do sex stuff if it doesn't add to a larger plot. In my fics, I use fade-to-black. I wouldn't even feel comfortable with anything else unless he was over 20 (majority age in Japan) and I'm also ace, so I don't get the same thing out of it most people do. It would have to have a reason relevant to the writing itself to interest me. He can wake up the morning after a fade to black. I'm really not sure how to further explain.

I have trouble tracking too much action with words. Fight scenes can be difficult to both read or write. Action via text is not easy. It's an action serie, but it's also visual. This isn't.

I think that's about it. There's also an "about me," check up on that, too.

Oh, and have an '80s song that I think goes well with Ichigo. Artist is Miyahara Manabu. This is the song whose lyrics make the blog title.

[cassatine]

i get that you're trying to find a compromise, which is a move i'm generally all for, but in this case it's structurally impossible because of the way tumblr is designed. i was talking about tagging on here, specifically, and you simply can't both tag a reblog for a ship *and* keep that tag out of OP's notifs.

and like. i'm not saying people have a right to right to write graphic taboo porn under someone's art when they reblog it, or that it's fine to harass artists that have made it clear they're not into (x) to get them to draw something more explicitly shippy for (x), or anything in that vein. i'm not saying there isn't a line to draw. but i am saying that i very much don't think it is at 'don't tag my art with a ship i dislike.'

imo, this falls within the realm of 'manage your own online experience.' as an artist, if you really don't want to be confronted with people reading your art in a way you dislike and their saying so, it is in fact on you to put your art in a space where you can control what sort of responses are structurally possible (ie where you can nope out of tagged reblogs or overall commenting) and/or a space dedicated to a specific audience (ie a moderated website explicitly catering to that specific audience only, something i'd argue a themed blog set to public on tumblr, which runs on reblogs, is not).

tumblr isn't really designed to be such a space -- tho now you can opt out of reblogs as well as out of replies, and you can also lock your blog behind a password, so you do in fact have a measure of control over how people can interract with your art. and yes, doing any of that means less engagement, which is the opposite of what most artists seek, but that's a choice you have to make.

(and just to be clear: if you do chose to post in a controlled environment and people grab your art to repost it elsewhere so as to circumvent that control, yes, they're being assholes.)

unrelated to my previous post excepted i have no patience left for anything whatsoever BUT 'don't tag as ship' babe if u don't want your creations (original or fannish) to go through other people's perceptions UNLESS it's the one perception you approve of, don't fucking post them on a website that isn't for-repressed-catholics-only.

[blackwatchzine]

Hi! I was wondering if you'd be able to say just about how much Mcreyes content is in the zine, if any? I really love Blackwatch dynamics, family stuff, and mcgenji is cute enough, but I really strongly dislike looking at/reading Mcreyes stuff that isn't strictly platonic. So if it's like half of the zine, I'd rather hold off on it. Are you able to disclose that kind of information?

I’ll do my best to answer this question in-depth, but the short answer is: mcreyes definitely makes up far less than half of the zine’s content.

A few fics (of 15 total fics which are

Of the total art pieces (including 1 page illustrations, 2 page spreads, and 2 page comics), less than a fifth feature only gabe and mccree, and there’s plenty of room for interpretation across the pieces. Some might seem more overtly shippy, others entirely gen, and some could easily go either way, depending on what you like.

(For what it’s worth, everything I said also holds true if you swap out mcreyes for mcgenji. I don’t think there’s any explicitly genji/gabe fic but there are some A++ fics that focus on them as well!)

This, of course, doesn’t include art pieces featuring the entire trio (over a third of total art pieces), some of which have ot3 undertones. (And don’t forget there are solo character pieces in the zine as well!)

We’ve addressed this topic several times since the zine’s inception.

From our FAQ:

Q. Will the zine feature an equal amount of content for each character/pair/etc.?

A. While we can’t promise each option will have the exact same number of pages dedicated to them, we’re actively taking steps to ensure that no one character or pair dominates the zine. See also: this post addressing the topic!

We wanted to keep the zine content balanced while allowing contributors to make the content they wanted. We were also adamant about our zine being friendly to any and every Blackwatch ship. Looking at all our finished pieces, I think we’ve achieved our goal.

Ultimately, we think the zine would best be enjoyed by those who multiship or are just generally chill with shipping between any of the three Blackwatch boys. We’ve done our best to be transparent about the content in the zine, so at this point, whether or not you think the zine is for you is really up to you!

[greenishbucket]

Aaaaah, thank you so much for stepping in!!! I had a thought that getting someone to write what I suggested might not happen bc niche as you said, so I'm so pleased to see something :D (And oh no what a shame :( I would enjoy seeing some Yusuf stuff tbh?? if that's Inception Yusuf (not that I really know Inception in a fandom way))

Anyway, to the fic at hand! I actually really enjoyed the non-explicitly-shippy-ness of it bc I loooove the in-betweenish stages and tbh love any dynamic between these characters and you nailed it. I really liked Ford seeing it as her time to Go For Things, but also the agreement that Ransom (bless his platonicy stress-relief-oral loving jock heart) isn't the best starter boyfriend :D And bless Lardo, all 'she's cute and fun but it's chill-- oh god wait that's her and my shirt oh no oh no' aka a disaster bi masquerading as a distinguished bi if ever I saw one.

This was super fun to read, thanks so much again!

From: @katiewont  

for: @greenerbucket  I hope you enjoy this, one rarepair heart to another.

“What am I looking at?”

Lardo wasn’t sure what the actual question was, so she decided to treat it like a game of I, Spy. “My… closet?” she guessed.

“No,” Ford huffed, grabbing a handful of fabric, from the right side of Lardo’s closet, all polyester and shiny athletic gear. “This! These! Is this some sort of taxation?”

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