#also this fandom is so naive
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gracefullou · 10 months ago
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Idk how I feel about this because I have massive hate towards the covers and 1dead anything.
https://x.com/LouisWT91World/status/1828489506460147938
I despise those covers. Even from this video, the man admitted he didn't know one direction that well. Yes, he was screaming with night changes but i've always said that it is a very popular and nostalgic song. I feel like him and his friend were the only ones singing along 7 💀. People behind seem to not know the song at all. But it's Louis' choice, i'm tired of this discussion. If he wants the 4 covers, if he wants to be known as the 1D guy forever it's on him. He had a whole ass 16 songs album (not counting the bonus songs) that he made specifically for the live shows and yet he chooses those decade old songs that'll never be half as good as his own 🤦‍♀️.
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supremeladyoftherandom · 10 months ago
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Imagine being me
Imagine you live in a country where popular american cartoon show gravity falls was not even heard of
Imagine growing up a little and going on the internet, and finding out about this show
Imagine seeing fanart on pinterest, of a boy in a pine hat and a girl in a shooting star sweater and two similar looking old men and a one eyed triangle
imagine seeing fanart of the fucking triangle being kissy kissy and tender with one of the old men/the boy with the pine hat/the girl with the shooting star
Imagine seeing the triangle looking over the boy reading a book/the girl knitting/anyone doing literally anything in the fanart
Imagine thinking the triangle must be a tinkerbell-type side character
Now imagine seeing the show for the first time
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It just bugs me when the fandom treats Tails as a baby who has sonic as his daddy. Tails may be younger than sonic, but that doesn't make him a helpless diaper baby that needs sonic to wipe his ass. Tails was living on his own even before he met sonic..he has multiple workshops and creates glorious inventions and kicks badniks ass.
So sick of the infantilization of Tails.
I don't have much to say other than
100%
I'm not really broken up about people making fanon aus or whatever. But the amount of times there's like a new Tailstube or whatever and someone goes "OMG see! This is the proof that Tails is a 5 year old baby boy that Sonic is actively teaching to read and is practically parenting! All sega needs to do now is make him stay home and go to school and act more like Sonic's kid brother!!🥰" while Sonic and Tails are chilling in one of Tails multiple homes that Tails owns and allows Sonic to crash at
Or the amount of animations/comics that give him Cream's speech patterns, make him naive af and oblivious to "adult" things like *checks notes*...kissing(?), a gremlin baby child who can't stand losing games to Sonic, actively say "it's basically canon that Sonic actually owns Tails' shit", claim (incorrectly) that classic Tails was an infant child that Sonic picked up and started raising, etc, meanwhile everyone glazes up op talking about how so super canon that is and how that stuff basically canonically happened...
It's just kind of staggering. To me it could not be more clear of a case of people needing their fanon to be "basically canon" so they can feel like they're justified for liking it and so they can justify alienating people who don't share the same headcanons as their illusionary majority
#sonic the hedgehog#tails the fox#miles tails prower#i just be ramblin#fandom wank#I'm sick of the Tails infantilization as well#People are so possessive over their baby boy Tails headcanons they'll call you terrible names about it if you say it's not canon sometimes#Another one that gets me is when people do it while giving characters autism headcanons#Tails is one of many characters where people will go ''Dawww look the lil autistic baby boy toddler who thinks he can build planes because#big bro Sonic bought him a book on mechanics. he's too young to touch real planes so big bro sonic and big sis amy let him play with toy#planes at home while they're out on adventures with big bro knuckles and Sonic is out flirting with uncle shadow🥺''#I like neurodivergence headcanons but man when people headcanon a character as autistic and then heavily infantilize them it feels a bit🤨#I've also hated seeing it happen to movie Tails because people legit just make up scenes that didn't happen or point at him having reaction#that are no different from movie sonic or movie knuckles and act like he's somehow uniquely naive and childish and the two have to take car#of him#It's like for some people Tails only exists as this ideal cute baby brother who exists for everyone to take care of#Although I'm ngl I think some of this attitude is definitely fueled by people who (without necessarily saying so) benefit by infantilizing#him so they can either feel morally good shipping him with the characters they want or so they can keep him out of the way of other ships#between main cast members (with the plus of bullying people who like those ships they don't)#anon interview#anyhow thanks for the ask anon!☺️
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ajastu · 3 months ago
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still THE funniest veilguard take ive seen is. like. 'rook is worse than solas, morally speaking, and therefore them taking the moral high ground with him makes them a hypocrite'
like. coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb moment but the competition category is war crimes
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some-stars · 3 months ago
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i will not be watching the murderbot show bc if the two white guys in charge cast a white person as mb--WHILE making the rest of the cast accurately racially diverse--that tells me they do not understand or give a shit about any of the themes at a very fundamental level, and this is going to be one of those slick $$$$ adaptations that gets a bunch of surface stuff "right" but the core is utterly hollow and rotten
and aside from the themes of the story itself, on a metatextual level it's just fucking disgusting to take a story about slavery and make the enslaved character white and almost everyone else BIPOC. that is CLASSIC white bullshit
the murderbot fandom is, as usual, fucking insufferable, and wrong about every other thing they're complaining about besides mb being white
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indestinatus · 14 days ago
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they don't talk enough about creatives' silence
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hauntingofhouses · 1 year ago
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guys cmon. be ffr please. akemi did Not love taigen. the only reason why she was desperate to search for him to the point of putting herself in danger is because she didn't want to get married to an abusive man (which she believed at the time that takayoshi was). when seki tried to dissuade her from running off, her reason was not "but i love taigen and wanna be with him 🥺" it was because she refused to be controlled and have her autonomy taken from her; she literally says "i won't be locked away in edo married to a stranger." and when seki still tries to argue that getting married to the heir of the shogun would be better than getting caught by brigands, she then says "that kind of man"—referring to takayoshi—"treats women like animals. they say he's a tyrant." and when seki chuckles and says "what man isn't?" her response is "you." she doesn't even talk about taigen. she is using him as much as he was using her. they both see—or, well, saw—each other as means to an end. for taigen he saw that marrying into the tokunobu clan would elevate his status and wealth. for akemi she wanted the right to choose who she married, and she wanted that person to be someone kind. that's it! neither of them loved each other. but since they were courting of course they acted sweet to each other, and they do still care for one another, especially due to their romantic history. but let's be real! akemi is a boss bitch who dropped taigen and forgot all about his ass as soon as she saw takayoshi was a nice guy. because duh? not only is takayoshi a better lover (it's implied their lovemaking lasted a long time) but he's also kinder towards her and presents her with an opportunity to claim power and freedom, which she would not have if she had married taigen, as she would have still been stuck under her father's thumb. so literally why should she settle for taigen's stupid ass! she may be a little naive at times but she's still incredibly intelligent. she would not do something stupid for the sake of "love." you know who would though? taigen.
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yoihino · 5 months ago
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The infantilation of goofy/dumb characters is real and I hate it
#This is specifically about Luffy from One Piece but also applies to others#It's just#He's just bad with traditional intellectual things and faces guys#He's a low int really high wisdom and charisma character#And he gets so many serious moments where his ability to empathize and startegize come through#They just get overshadowed by the antics from other moments#And I just feel like the fandom in general kind of takes him as a joke??#The gear 5 transformation didn't help I think even if I love it very very much#It is not the typical ultimate power up shonen protagonists tend to get and I fear it just solidified in people's minds the silly/comical#Part of Luffy's character#Gear 5 is supposed to represent his ability to break out of the box; to not have to follow the rules imposed by those in power and instead#Make his own path; his own way to battle; his own way to live#Luffy is a person who is confronted with a world full of darkness and corruption and very serious things#And in fron of that says: I will not bavk down; I will not hide the joys that bring light into our life to prolong thw darkness#One Piece is a world where those in power want you to suffer so you continue to follow their rules in hope of stopping the pain#And ultimately Luffy's journey is a fight against everything that represents; to be king of the pirates is to be the freest man in the world#And a free man is not afraid to show joy#I just hate that some fans have taken that and twisted it into Luffy just being naive/stupid#When he's shown time and time again how very much he is not that#one piece#monkey d. luffy#mine
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gammija · 9 months ago
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sherlock & co is a lot of fun but it is also, and i dont know another way to say this, the most normie fiction podcast ive listened to
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cementcornfield · 11 months ago
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good lord my inbox is a mess lmao
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e-adlirez · 3 months ago
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Hey winions has anyone brought this up yet
If I'm hearing it right the Different Beast motif is a melodic reprise of Survive o o it's set to a lower key and is simplified/altered a little but it's basically the same melody
Here lemme prove it with some timestamps-- if you need help visualizing it, listen to the trombone (? tuba?) in Different Beast and sing "six hundred lives at stake" along with it. You'll have to start at the second note of the Different Beast motif, but you're gonna see it I think hopefully. It's especially obvious when the Different Beast motif is brought up in 600 Strike
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Anyway I wound up picking up on this because I was in the weird situation where I listened to Troy and Cyclops saga last (before you come at me for that, I do know the story of the Odyssey from OSP's summary), so when I heard Survive's chorus I was like ":OOO WAIT THAT'S THE MOTIF DIFFERENT BEAST IS REPRISING"
Have fun with this now every time you hear the Different Beast motif come up haha
#epic the musical#music breakdown#hi fellow winions please be nice and not too pissed about my epic listening order haha#the way i got into epic was uh shandzii's scylla and underworld animatics#at the time epic was showing up on my recommended a bit but i didn't click because i thought it was a musical adaptation about epic#y'know the one about the tiny humans#i didn't really care for that movie so i could've cared less about a musical adaptation for it of all things#but oh boy was i wrong#very very wrong#then after listening to scylla and underworld in full i got into some more tho out of order because i am weird and autistic like that#my first epic animatic was gigi's scylla haha#i actually was around for the ithaca saga's release so i did get my shredded with my own knowledge of how the odyssey ends#i actually loved how it was portrayed because like#the wedding bed 🥺#and then i slowly listened to the entire musical bit by bit in my weird autistically picky way#because i heard troy and cyclops were a lot of people's least favorites they were the ones i was the most nervous to listen to#because i got into the later ones first and usually the later ones are better than the former so like how much of a quality curve is there#and then i listened to it and it actually slapped? like i think atm survive is my favorite song because of the ear worm melody#i didn't get *that* attached to polities because i thought he was kinda naive he totally would've been lotus-ed if ody didn't stop him#(and maybe knowing he was bound to die was also part of it)#but i will tell you my jaw DROPPED when i was listening to survive and the he's got a club scene went down#i was so shocked from it i actively stopped for a bit from the work i was doing in school to just listen and process poly's words#learning that polities got pancaked by polyphemus when i knew he died is a whole 'nother level of horror haha#i have a vivid imagination so in underworld i just imagined that oh he probably died in a monster battle or something#but no he got fuckin' PULVERIZED AND IT DIDN'T EVEN ONESHOT HIM THAT IS HORRIFYING#and of course you have ody giving his name and i knew about that from the odyssey so i was team athena the whole time they were arguing hah#like yeah athena's deal with warrior of the mind was fucked up but ODY YOU'RE GIVING POLY YOUR NAME AND IP ADDRESS YOU DUMBASS#THE ONLY WAY IT COULD'VE BEEN WORSE WAS IF YOU TOLD POLY YOUR DAD'S NAME LIKE YOUR O R I G I N A L C O U N T E R P A R T#anyway thea stilton fandom if you're still here for some reason i am making something epic and ts-related that i'ma post soon hehehe
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normalbrothers · 1 year ago
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a-murmur-of-a-prayer · 6 months ago
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For a long time, I've been really depressed that I can't get back into the same fandoms I used to be into, and I think I've finally figured out why. Mostly it has to do with the ways I changed as a person after 2020, and one of the things that's been affected is the way I engage with media. I think the way I changed was for the best, but there were some sacrifices. The two fandoms I used to write for constantly were Harry Potter and Star Wars, to the point that I started long-form projects involving them with my friends. I've started just vaguely getting back into both of those, but it's been slow, slow going so far...and I think it's because they remind me of the person I was in high school. I don't really know what to do with that; maybe I'll make a longer post about it at some point, because the way I engage with media now vs then really is interesting to me. But it does make me feel pretty depressed, because they used to mean so much to me. Maybe one day they will again, but it's been rough so far.
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romance-of-three-memes · 1 year ago
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A lot of people in mainland China are perfectly capable of getting around the so called 'Great Firewall of China' and interacting with the internet beyond it but the thing is a lot of them just flat out don't want to or don't really care all that much. Yeah sure the internet is heavily censored, but outside of that non-English spaces have gotten smaller and smaller while English takes over as the lingua franca of the internet, and they may or may not be able to read and understand English very well.
Also a lot of people on the internet beyond the 'firewall' are very hostile to them, they get treated like naive idiots or brainwashed infiltrators for the ccp. I remember a few years back when a lot of Chinese fanfic writers started uploading their stories on ao3 en masse because there had been a big uptick in websites that host fanfiction getting taken down and some people were so utterly vile about it, making jokes about how they could get the fics taken down by mentioning the Tiananmen Square massacre in the comments and things like that.
All because they were apparently offended by their favorite tags having more non-English works that can very easily filter out so they don't have to look at them at all. Because God forbid a fanfiction website that already greatly skews towards English fics have more works in other languages, right? That's like the only thing I miss about fanfiction.net, it had way more non-English fics, well that and more stories for certain fandoms than ao3 does.
And it's not like a lot of tech companies and other governments don't censor the internet to some extent or another, China isn't unique in that regard, it's just particularly infamous for being so heavy-handed and easy to use as a red herring.
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elany · 6 months ago
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Let's do this then =D First a disclaimer and a bit about my methodology because while the math here is very barebones I want to at least explain what I was doing. Essentially I picked a few ships in different fandoms, calculated the percentage of E and M rated works in the tag, then compared that to the percentage if at least one person in the main pairing is trans, using the "Trans Character A" OR "Trans Character B" filter. I didn't look at non character specific tags such as Trans (Male) Character because I didn't want too many false positives. Since this was part of what I was initially interested in, I then also compared the percentage of mpreg works within those featuring a trans character to the percentage in the ship tag overall. Another note, I'm using the word 'mpreg' because that's inherently what we're talking about, but I found out that only around 20% of works tend to be tagged with 'Mpreg' as opposed to 'Pregnancy', and since that is also the parent tag it's what I had been filtering for. Then, because that's what the OG post was about, I also looked into how often Character A is headcanoned as trans vs Character B.
As for the disclaimer - I redid all of it yesterday, in part because the last time I did this the intention was only to drop the results in a gc and it shows lol, in part because I was curious if anything's changed, but mostly because I'm boo boo the fool who never wrote down which fandom some of this data is even for.
Now for the actual numbers!
I started with two Genshin Impact ships because I figured that's a good baseline for current fandom trends. One that's slightly more recent and another that includes a character I've seen thrown around in the tags a bunch. So;
Alhaitham/Kaveh (Genshin Impact)
All works: 14,589 | E/M: 38% Works where either is tagged as trans: 461 or 3% of all works | E/M: 70% Of those 40 or 9% are mpreg, compared to 2% in the ship tag overall. Meaning those make up for 13% of all mpreg works in the ship tag. Trans Kaveh was tagged 316 times, trans Alhaitham 188 times, 43 works were t4t So right off the bat we get some stats that, spoiler alert, will become a pattern. Works centring trans characters are nearly twice as likely to be rated E or M than the ship average (and most of those are Explicit, like, it's not even close for most ships). Second, works featuring trans characters comprise a disproportionally large amount of all mpreg fics, compared to the overall percentage they make up - in this case 13% vs 3% - altho this particular stat varies greatly from fandom to fandom. It's going to be lower with some. But it's also going to be much, much higher with some others.
Diluc/Kaeya (Genshin Impact)
All works: 8152 | E/M: 55% Works where either is tagged as trans: 186 or 2% of all works | E/M: 89% 22 or 12% of those mpreg, compared to 4% in the entire ship tag. They make up for 7% of all mpreg. 128 trans Kaeya fics, 74 trans Diluc fics, 16 t4t This is by far the horniest tag I looked at lol. 55% is a staggering number and while it's literally impossible for it to meet the 2:1 e/m ratio of most other fandoms, by gods, a solid attempt was made. 89% huh. Nobody here's interested in writing anything but smut. This one also continues the pattern of works centring trans characters being 3-4 times more likely to be mpreg than the average, and one person being portrayed as trans far more often.
Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast (Critical Role)
This is one of the ships I originally looked into. Nothing's really changed since. All works: 4076 | E/M: 33% Works where either is tagged as trans: 224 or 5% of all works | E/M: 74% 11 or 5% are mpreg, compared to 0,6% in the ship tag overall. Meaning that works centring trans characters make up for, deep breath, 42% of all mpreg fic in the tag. 5% of all fic is trans. 42% of all mpreg is trans. 63 trans Caleb works, 194 trans Essek works, 33 t4t Yeah idk what to say other than there's a reason I was already looking into this one 4 years ago.
Kabru/Laios (Dungeon Meshi)
All works: 628 | E/M: 48% Works where either is tagged as trans: 64 or 10% of all works | E/M: 89% 6 or 9% of those mpreg, compared to 5% in the entire ship tag. They make up for 20% of all mpreg. 62 trans Kabru works, 7 trans Laios, but 5 of those are transfem Laios. 5 t4t Smaller sample size means that the numbers are a bit more all over the place, but congrats to that one person in the tags that fully predicted the 9:1 split.
Now for a fandom that I thought might shake things up a little, because it's the first one on this list where the top/bottom dynamic is heavily implied by the source material and where the supposed bottom is canonically a bit baby crazy.
Lan Zhan | Lan Wangji/Wei Ying | Wei Wuxian (The Untamed/MDZS)
All works: 45,505 | E/M: 38% Works where either is tagged as trans: 444 or just under 1% of all works | E/M: 64% 70 or 16% of those mpreg, compared to 4% of all fics in the ship tag. They make up for 4% of all mpreg. 208 works tagged trans LWJ, 290 works tagged trans WWX, 54 t4t The fact that fics centring trans characters make up a relatively small percentage of all mpreg fic is not entirely surprising in a fandom this big on (magical) baby acquisition. So the most interesting part about this one ended up being the relatively equal number of trans fics for both characters, which I wasn't entirely expecting from a fandom where the source material already comes with certain BL tropes.
And now for the crown jewel of this entire thing. Going in I already knew approximately what results I'm likely to get, so I was a bit blase about everybody in the the tags saying jayvik. I figured, surely it's not any worse than the rest of them. I was wrong. I would like to formally apologise to jayvik shippers, y'all really are fighting for your lives in the trenches.
Jayce/Viktor (Arcane)
All works: 9616 | E/M: 47% Works where either is tagged as trans: 1262 or 13% of all works | E/M: 80% 53 or 4% of those mpreg, compared to 1% of all fics in the ship tag. They make up for 36% of all mpreg. 205 trans Jayce fic, 1199 trans Viktor fic, 142 t4t 1199 trans Viktor fics and basically all of them just porn. Whew. 36% of all mpreg. Whew. I mean it's not reaching the heights of labru and shadowgast in their respective departments, but it's the combination that's the real kicker.
And you might be looking at this thinking, well, it's not really that bad. These are all pretty small numbers, 9% is hardly an epidemic of people writing trans men as baby making machines. And yeah, when you're looking at all the thousands of works available it doesn't seem that bad.
But when you're browsing a 'Trans [Character]' tag and every 7th fic involves them getting pregnant? When half of the entire 'Pregnancy' tag is trans men? When the rest is just extremely heteronormative PIV smut? And the only characters portrayed as trans men are short and skinny and have long eyelashes and their more traditionally masculine counterparts are being headcanoned as transfem??
That says something.
I know this is only a handful of fandoms and you're welcome to add more! Please do! But personally I don't have the spoons to keep looking into this right now and getting hit over the head with the same pattern over and over again. 80% porn. 4 times more likely to involve pregnancy. That 9:1 split. jesus h christ
It's really fucking annoying shipping an mlm ship and everyone in the goddamn universe is like "the bigger stronger one is a dominant cis man who tops and the smaller weaker one is a submissive trans man who bottoms :)"
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let-the-sunset-rise · 1 year ago
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If I see one more person on my dash woobifying/babyfying Fingon I'm Gonna Explode
#It's the same with Patroclus from the illiad. They woobify him all the time#I LOVE YOU HADES GAME FOR NOT MAKING PATROCLUS INTO AN INNOCENT UWU TWINK it's one of the reasons I want the game#Anyway about Fingon: This is a thing I've been noticing in the fandom and it's getting on my nerves.#especially when people are talking about russingon. like stop making him naive and innocent 😩#I'd understand if that were like. the one characterisatiob that 1-5 people have but that's not the case#Many people are just completely ignoring Tolkien saying that Fingon was heroic and strong. like sorry but it's in the text. HES NOT A BABY#HES A GROWN ASS ADULT. HES OLDER THAN TURGON AND FINROD AND I DONT SEE ANYONE BABYING THEM#I think it's mostly because of the Nirn and Maedhros' rescue from Thangorodhrin that the fandom sees him as naive.#It's making me want to throw my head against the wall and scream in anguish#YOU IDIOTS. YOU IDIOTS. FINGON WASNT NAIVE HE WAS AN OPTIMIST AND HE WAS LOYAL AND VALIANT AND BOLD. THATS NOT THE SAME AS NAIVE#I think the reason why this pisses me off so much is because I'm a trans man and this happens to irl transmascs/trans men a lot#so the reason why I feel so attacked by ''Fingon innocent naive and super young'' is probably also internalized anger.#But if you look away from that I'd still be pissed cause he's my favourite and I love Tolkien's writing about him#free my man he did so many things wrong but he's an optimist so society thinks he's innocent#''Fingon is such a sweetheart he's so young and naive-'' Fuck you! You're a coward! Make him WORSE!#tolkien#silmarillion#the silmarillion#silm#fingon
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