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hbpseverus · 2 days ago
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for all that us snape fans say how we love his character because he is flawed and complex, i find it disappointing how many of us can't extend that line of thinking towards lily, while pretending that young severus was entirely innocent. i've noticed this a lot recently and it's been bothering me quite a bit so i've felt the need to defend lily, or to be exact, analyse the downfall of their relationship without basically giving her all the blame and instead looking at both characters and especially lily more critically.
so. let's talk about the conversation between her and severus after the werewolf prank. some snape fans harshly criticise her in this scene because she insists that james saved severus and doesn't acknowledge how serious this prank was, while insisting that at least the marauders don't use dark magic.
and i agree that she should have been more on severus' side in this case. after all he could have died or gotten seriously injured, turned into a werewolf etc and she downplays the severity of the situation and generally doesn't acknowledge how the marauders bullied severus very much. so yes, she could have been a better friend here.
but at the same time, from her perspective, she was already noticing that severus was spending more time with his housemates, all of them aspiring death eaters, how he had always looked up to lucius and was slowly heading down that same path. how he didn't truly disapprove of his housemates disgusting actions towards muggleborns - her own kind. even though it's not entirely logical, since we see through the marauders that light magic can be used to do harm aswell, this also explains her dislike of dark arts, which these (aspiring) death eaters all were fond of and using to do awful things to her friends (and hogwarts also pretty much teaches that dark magic is pure evil). by this point she had most likely also experienced discrimination at hogwarts for being muggleborn. she knew the situation in the wizarding world wasn't favourable for her, and now her best friend was starting to agree with those people?
the next notable event was of course snapes worst memory (sigh, here i go talking about it for the millionth time). and i really don't like how some people on our side of the fandom talk about lily in this scene (of course, this is not all of us).
first of all we saw that she initially smiled upon seeing severus be bullied, and yes, this was honestly quite disgusting. we know that severus saw this and was rightfull hurt, and this very well could be the reason why he snapped at her. but that is her only 'crime' in this scene. because she then does quickly turn against james and this entire crowd and defends severus. only for james to insult and threaten her, and severus to call her a 'filthy little mudblood'.
now, people say she should have done more to defend severus, that her attempt was quite half-hearted. i don't know. maybe she could have done more, but she did tell the marauders to stop, you can't say she didn't try. some say she should have hexed james herself or bring up her prefect role (although i'm not sure it's confirmed she was one at this time). but say she was a prefect, her job would be to stop fighting, which she tried to do, not to get involved in fights herself. and you can tell that james is entirely dismissive of her and clearly won't let her stop him no matter what, even threatening her in the process. lily also genuinely seems to still hate him at this point in time, she is described to have been disgusted with him to the point where even harry questions his parents marriage. so i don't believe it's fair to say she was just 'flirting' with james here.
furthermore, people believe she should have forgiven severus for being called a mudblood. i used to agree that it wasn't that serious, but i feel differently now. because it wasn't just a word, it wasn't a one time mistake or slip up or even the first time she noticed that he was slowly turning into a future death eater. that's why i brought up their conversation after the prank. lily knows that severus' descend into the death eaters arms had been going on for months, years even. being called - not even just mudblood, but hearing the words "i don't need help from a filthy little mudblood like her" out of the mouth of her former best friend was just the final nail in the coffin. it was her confirmation that severus was finally too far down that road, and she, as a muggleborn, could no longer justify surrounding herself with him. so she abandons him at the scene, and i can't blame her one bit.
of course this post is not meant to be severus bashing in any way, he is and always will be my favorite character, but i don't enjoy pretending he was completely innocent, even his younger self. this is also not to excuse the marauders, as their bullying never had anything to do with severus possibly being a death eater and was really just for fun and because they could, and because he was an easy victim. but i truly believe that lily deserves some grace and also to be analysed as a complex character like severus, rather than painting her as one dimensional, either fully good or fully bad.
severus becoming a death eater is the tragic result of his background and surroundings, and when we analyse him we factor all of this in. lily was wealthier, had a better family, was pretty, smart and popular and had a good support system in and out of hogwarts. she couldn't understand why severus made the choices he did. maybe as an adult she would have looked back and understood it all better. but as it was, she was just a teenage girl watching her best friend turn against people like her and not knowing what to do about that. and what's also important to me to point out is that it was not her job to try and stop this, to try and fix him or whatever. it was first and foremost the adults in severus' life who failed him over and over again, not lily.
finally a lot of us can't understand how lily ended up marrying her former friends abuser and use this as an argument against her, but i honestly don't want to go too deep into this topic. i personally strongly dislike this relationship, because james treated lily herself like shit too, aswell as other people. we have to believe that he truly did change, even if there is not much to prove this. even if he did, i personally wouldn't have been able to forgive him. but i don't believe that marrying james makes lily a bad person by extension or anything. ultimately, if she was able to find happiness, i'm happy for her.
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equalmindz · 3 days ago
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i am wanting some information! no arguments! :)
hey so i’m relatively new to the fandom- like in general. i’m twenty-three and let me explain because i have QUESTIONS
- i only WATCHED harry potter for the first time in May of 2024. i have not read the books, i plan too this year
- i started out reading a draco x hermione fic called the disappearance of draco malloy. which i thought was quite good, but i kinda took space from this area of the fandom because of the popularity and sensation that was manacled, mainly because it discusses topics of sexual assault and in my opinion seems to romanticized it, so i took a step back and moved to marauders. (i am a survivor of SA and this is just highly triggering to me)
- i then read ATYD, which was my first marauders fandom book, and i wanted to learn more about it because it was something i’d heard about from the outside, but never looked into in depth. i really enjoyed it, fell in love with wolfstar of course, and i did enjoy jily.
- i then read COPTP, which i am approximately 77% the way through. it is a beast of a thing, but i am enjoying it more than ATYD. mainly because it’s less sad and tied to our world and the OC’s are great. one thing that did strike me as odd before i started reading it was people on here saying they couldn’t enjoy it or want to read it now because there’s jily?? now of course i know about jegulus, and all the hype around it. for me this ship feels like it’s for people who wanted prongsfoot to happen but wolfstar is well wolfstar and so jegulus is kind of in place to satisfy this within the fandom?? (again, this is my OPINION)
- two days ago i then posted my first wolfstar fic. and i’ve been scrolling on tumblr more- and just being more active in the fandom through here. now i’ve noticed some things
there seems to be this weird contention between like old vs new people in the fandom, or people who ship jegulus and jily, and beyond you know regulus shipping i’m kind of wondering why? like genuinely in trying to learn more about the fandom i wanna know peoples opinion on regulus and his character— same with the slytherin skittles. i’ve seen a couple of posts where people are upset about regulus characterizations because of how it is far from canon. but couldn’t this be argued for draco? or snape?? basically i am just wanting someone to explain (someone with actual media literacy- in a kind discussion, nothing crazy) their opinions on the subject. again, i’ve never read the books and i’m fairly new to the fandom so take what i’m saying with a grain of salt.
so yeah! feel free to pm me because i’m kind of curious about like the parts of the fandom! also because i’m a writer i’m not really wanting to write about something (aka jegulus vs jily) without fully knowing all the information. please be kind too :)
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m00nyst0astsposts · 2 years ago
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i just saw a mainstream tiktok about the hunger games resurgence going on there at the minute and they didn’t know where it had come from
several comments were about crimson rivers and it shook me to see people who have NO IDEA about the marauders try to understand what it is
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lilithofpenandbook · 5 months ago
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Seriously how can M*r*uders stans like random Slytherins (who tf are Evan Rosier, Pandora (is that Luna's mum and why tf is she Evan Rosier's twin in half of these), and I don't even want to discuss Regulus) and make them Actually Misunderstood Good People Who Were Forced Down That Path when at least one of them *coughreguluscough* was obsessed with Voldemort
And then turn around and make Snape an awful person?
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ramblingsfromthytruly · 2 months ago
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drarry this, jegulus that
blah blah NOBLEFLOWER
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jupitereater · 1 month ago
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what the fuck is up with all the jegulus hate. you want jily? you want your canon-complaint jkr-written heterosexual ships? then write about them!! but ranting in another ship’s tags? accusing people of “forcing female characters to be wlw”? some of these people saying this shit are queer too, maybe you should do some self-reflection on why you feel like the only reason why people would enjoy sapphic ships is to “justify” an mlm ship. that’s so beyond fucked up jfc.
it’s a cute ship. people like it. “it’s not realistic”, “james would hate a death eater” have you heard of this little thing called drarry. it’s done some numbers i’m told. like i’m convinced that all the people who act like the death eater/hero trope is new started reading harry potter (or engaging in fandom) 2 months ago. welcome ig?? stick to your own lane, learn some fandom etiquette.
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starchaserdreams · 8 days ago
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I "love the marauders" but I actually vehemently hate canon Remus "Harry abandoner" Lupin, vehemently hate James "incel but it's okay because he's hot" Potter and vehemently hate Peter "at this point what didn't he do" Pettigrew
So what I'm saying is the part of me that loves Sirius Black runs so so so so deep that even despite all of that I love the marauders.
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bri-cheeses · 8 months ago
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Okay guys I asked my twin sister if she had any thoughts on Rosekiller and she was thinking about it and said that I should look up the “If I were a kind of _______, then I’d be a _________” questions. And she was giving me examples of those type of questions and the SECOND THING SHE SAID was “Oh, you know, like if they were in the Hunger Games what district would they be from and stuff like that.”
When I tell you that I had flashbacks—
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floralembarrassment · 2 years ago
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hello I love your writing, could you write wolfstar where Remus walked in on sirius changing and sees all the scars Walburga left
it's okay if not 🤗
hi you! i actually really like this request so I hope this does justice to your heart's desire. with love
Who? How? (1/1) (wolfstar)
Remus wasn't really sure what anyone was playing at making him a prefect. He thought it might have been an attempt to reign in the marauders, but Remus was just as mischievous as the rest of them. And having had a proper gay crisis over the summer, he really had to put on a hardened act to make it through. Coming back to school and now having to police the others wasn't really how he thought he'd spend his 5th year.
He did, however, enjoy the perks. He liked being able to wander the castle just after hours, letting the silence and majesty of the old castle settle in his bones as his steps echoed off the stone walls. He liked the little bit of power it gave him, even though he knew shouldn't; but he had had little control in his life so being able to exert some now was an adventure in itself.
He also, shamelessly, like the prefect bathroom. The glorious soaps and endless hot water that was always the perfect temperature, and the fluffiest towels in the building made for an excellent cure for his sore bones.
But maybe he liked it most because Sirius once followed him in there after a party and then may have drunkenly laughed for hours at the bubbles, and it may be the place that Sirius first told Remus he was beautiful, and it may be the place that Remus and Sirius first kissed.
Even though Sirius doesn't ever bring it up, the kiss at least, Remus was hard pressed to not give Sirius the password after he begged him for it.
And today, the prefect bathroom may be the place that Remus sees Sirius nearly bare for the first time. And it is absolutely the place where Remus' heartbreaks and his gut is wrenched when he sees the jagged lines, some white and faded, some red and a bit raw, that covered his back and legs.
Remus knew Sirius had scars, he couldn't hide the ones on his arms, but they were not nearly as bad as these. When Remus gasped, Sirius jumped. He didn't realize anyone was there and certainly didn't mean for anyone to see his wounds.
Sirius quickly grabbed his jumper covering himself, and trying to hide the fear in his eyes as Remus observed his body. He didn't know why he was afraid but he knew it would be bad for someone to find out where the marks came from. In his panic he stuttered, "oh Remus uh I'm didn't hear you come in..."
Remus just kept looking at him. Heat rose inside him, and anger filling every inch of his body, as he realized that he was looking at scars that looked just like his own, except those were not claw marks on Sirius' body. They were slashes. Whips. Cuts so deep they probably needed stitching and clearly had been stitched poorly.
"Sirius, who did this to you?" Remus said finally.
Sirius was glad he broke the silence, but hated the question used to break it.
"Don't ask me that," Sirius replied hoarsely.
Remus said taking a few steps forward. He reached out his hand and moved the jumper down. Sirius surprisingly let him.
"Pads, how did you get those?" Remus said, as he reached his hand. He wasn't touching but his fingers hovered over a large scar that tore diagonally across his stomach.
Sirius's heart was beating out of his chest and he was breathing hard. But despite the urges to fight or run or yell or accuse, Sirius had never felt so safe laid bare.
"Remus..." Sirius whispered.
Their eyes had remained locked until that point when Remus looked down at his fingers and Sirius' gaze followed. They watched the breath fill and deflate from Sirius' chest and after a shared breath, Remus ran his fingers over the pale white skin.
Remus didn't know what he was doing but he knew he felt destroyed inside. Someone had hurt Sirius, his Sirius, and there had been no one to protect him.
Sirius just breathed and let Remus caress him. He had never known such tenderness. Remus' fingers traced up and stilled over Sirius' heart, pressing his palm firmly on his chest to feel his raving heart slow under his gentle touch.
"I won't ever let anything like this happen to you again," Remus said.
And even though they were just boys, even though there was not any way that Remus could protect him from his mother's wrath and his father's fist, even though he knew he was a monster himself who could've been the one to cause those scars, both of them believed that promise.
And even though it couldn't be kept, it didn't stop Remus from trying and it didn't stop Sirius from falling in love with boy who saw him, recognized that he was precious, swore to protect him, and chose to love him back.
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alsoknownasallison · 1 year ago
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It's always wild to see people being like "you kids nowadays!" in fandom spaces and then you check their profile and they're like 25......girl shut up.
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roadkill111 · 2 months ago
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i gasped so loudly when receiving this text
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siriuslygay1981 · 6 months ago
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"You have already left kudos here"
I WANT TO LEAVE MORE, I WANT TO GIVE MORE KUDOS, PLEASE I NEED TO TELL THE AUTHOR THAT THEY CHANGED SOMETHING DEEP IN MY SOUL, CHANGED THE WAY I WRITE, CHANGED THE WAY I VIEW LOVE AND RELATIONSHIPS AND DEATH AND FAMILY AND PARENTS WHO ARE TRYING THEIR BEST AND PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH. I NEED TO GIVE MORE KUDOS BECAUSE THEIR FIC IS IMPRINTED ON MY SOUL, IT TAKES UP SPACE IN MY MIND AND WITH EVERY BREATH I PRAY AND HOPE THAT I CAN READ SOMETHING EVEN CLOSE TO THE POETRY I CONSUMED
ONLY GOD ILL PRAY TO IS WHATEVER POSSESSED YOUR BODY AND WROTE THIS FIC.
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uuuuugh guys I forgot the horrors of writing for a diff fandom for the first time this shit is nauseating
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samynnad102687 · 1 month ago
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uptolovegood · 7 months ago
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your blogs r so cool n aesthetic 💝
oh, thank u sm<3 ✩ 🪶 honestly makes me feel a TAD BIT better that people do actually read them or give them a chance. i love urs too! xx (:
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moltensmusings · 1 year ago
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I haven't engaged in Ha/rry P/otter content in years. But for some reason, my fyp has decided I'm apparently a fan of the Marauders. Which is even more hilarious when you remember that even when I was a fan, I had 0 interest in them. Because boy groups are boring to me.
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