#also all fandom discourse is chronically online

[musicalmoritz]

Every time you ship Mitsuba with a girl, Kou punches a wall

[m0thlegs]

Me when I’m in a fandom and the shipping discourse begins to overshadow any meaningful discussions about the work itself

[eddiebestdaddiaz]

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[olderthannetfic]

Im neither a proshipper nor an anti at this current stage in life, but at one point i was an anti i guess? And I hate it say it, but looking back, I understand why. I don't think I actually gave a fuck about Harmful Fanfic or whatever, it was just a substitute for therapy that i couldn't get at the time (because "literally neurodivergent and a minor" or whatever, but like...actually literally neurodivergent and a minor LOL).

As weird as it sounds like, no one cared about my ACTUAL PAIN, and that made me feel EVEN MORE PAIN, so i took it out on ppl who shipped "abuse", or whatever.

It's so stupid now, as an adult who is mentally better than I was then, but as ridiculous as it was, seeing someone ship an "abusive" ship or a "queer erasing ship" (like a canonically gay character with someone of the other binary gender)...it felt eerily similar to the actual abuse I was facing and the stress that everyone was putting on me to find a boyfriend or ask why my (closeted lesbian) self didn't like any boys.

But it was so much easier to keyboard warrior about how people who ship Bad things are Bad people, than it was to fix any problems in my actual life because...well, the actual problems in my life COULDN'T be fixed. That isn't a learned helplessness thing, there was genuinely nothing I could've done. So pissing off Shippers was, like, a vessel for that, and it *felt* like I was getting to lash out at the same people who were ACTUALLY hurting me, even though that obviously is not the case. Funny thing is, it wasn't actual fandom discourse that made me switch sides, it was getting to learn more about youth liberation movements and stuff, because it was then that I recognized the actual structures that were making me hurt.

I think one silver lining is it's made me more compassionate an adult. While I don't have any defense for the antis who do actual horrendous stuff like doxxing or sending death/rape threats, etc, I do have a lot of defense for the ones who were like me and would just make posts talking about how Wrong it is to ship certain things. I know that not all antis are in the same place that I was once was, and some are just genuinely immature brats, but it's like. . . I get it, you know?

The cycle of abuse/bullying is weird and it's not often a 1:1 "I had an abusive parent so now i'll be an abusive parent", sometimes it's the chronically online stuff like I did. It's also why I'm careful-careful to not engage and to just block or, even try to have a mature discussion if I can, and if the person I'm talking to is just "a little bit annoying" rather than "actual bully doing/sending illegal stuff". A lot of them just want to be heard, I think, and it really makes me sad that this is the way they choose to be heard...but also i get it, because i was that.

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Yup. We often discuss anti tendencies in this framework.

People want control over their environment when they have none. They want the world to make sense and for there to be simple rules they can follow to Never Mess Up. This is a very common reaction to trauma and also typical of brains that like order and neat boxes and a world full of justice and logic.

The trouble is that a critical mass of "I'm just pointing this out" type posts does tend to make all the other teens with an issue around moral scrupulosity implode. (And let's be real, plenty of the antis themselves are secretly into dark content and are trying to pray the gay kink away.)

I have some sympathy, but I'm still going to tell people they're sealioning when they are and tell them they're flat out wrong about how fantasies work, not sugar coat it because they're probably a delicate teen. There's no need to be excessively mean or treat people as irredeemable, but I also don't like how we talk endlessly about compassion for teen antis and not for teens targeted by antis. It's similar to how there are all those complaints like "Hey, I work hard to manage my mental illness, but all the support seems to go to people who are letting their issues rampage..."

[cloudruler]

Saw someone say Veilguard’s sanded down edges reek of a game thats afraid of getting cancelled on twitter. which made me laugh my ass off but also…it’s kind of a portion of fans’ fault. Not to be all ���you asked for this” but we saw it with 2077 before it even released. People lobbed every single problematic moniker at it (most of which weren’t even true) and caused a huge stink enough that the chronically online crowd were calling people bigots for playing it. Again, before the game was OUT.

Dragon Age is so famous for it’s insane fanbase that it’s become an expectation and an insult. So famous that the BG3 discoursers who tie themselves in knots over “problematic” content are often jokingly accused of hailing from the DA fandom. Are we really that surprised this was a possible outcome, especially with the weird rise of people thinking media = morality? Of art and stories becoming a way to show you’re morally pure and correct (as if that equates to any real world help)?

Boring, isn’t it? Almost as if stories need conflict to be interesting and trying to sanitize adult stories feels condescending at best and insulting at worst.

[problematicbyler]

an incomplete history of byler sexuality discourse

and how widespread fandom purity culture and homophobia created a flourishing nsfw sub-fandom

some may call me chronically online, but i call myself a fandom historian. i've been a member of some fandom or another since i was about thirteen, and i've always been interested in the rise and fall of fandom discourse. though it's annoying in the moment it's happening, i think it's very interesting and telling to look back at the overall arcs and trends.

so, let's talk about the many times the fandom has cancelled people over byler sexuality, and how each level of "hornygate" has contributed to the growth of the proship/byler smut community.

(i use the term proship in its intended definition, which is to say, not "problematic shipping," but rather being pro-fiction, anti-censorship, and anti-harassment; it is a position of believing the fiction one creates or consumes doesn't reflect a person's real life beliefs or morals.)

i have been a stranger things lover since season 1, a byler shipper since season 2, and an active part of the byler community on tumblr since season 4. i'll mostly be focusing on post-season 4 discourse because that's what i've really been most present for and that was the period that really marked a turning point in the fandom.

seasons 1-3

i wasn't as plugged into fandom discourse back in the day, but the broad strokes of early discourse was mostly thinly veiled homophobia. claiming that it was sexualization to assume will or mike could be queer despite blatant queer coding, implying that analysts were no better than will's bullies to assume his sexuality, etc etc. people were criticized for shipping byler at all because they were so young (but these people naturally had no issue with mileven, so, again, homophobia).

season 4 (may-july 2022)

now, season 4. this is where byler was brought to the attention of a lot more fans, and stranger things' viewership reached wider than ever. the byler fandom on tumblr booms from 4k to 100k over the course of season 4's release.

this brought a lot of new people who have never been in fandoms before, people who never learned don't like don't read or your kink is not my kink and that's okay or ship and let ship.

or, a lot of times, people who had only been in fandoms for celebrities and bands, which tend to have different rules when it comes to shipping and sex, because they're real people. hence a lot of young antis' conflation of character with their actors, but that's a different rant.

so with a rapidly growing fandom, a show ripe for analysis, and the art of media literacy bleeding out on the ground in front of us, the hellscape of the fandom post-season 4 in 2022 followed as such:

august 2022

jo/kendra gate where two extremely popular analysts were called out for "sexualizing" byler while being adults (early to mid 20s). they were dogpiled and harassed because one of them said that will was giving mike "bedroom eyes" (he was) and one of them said mike was checking will out (he was):

pyshiie and moogate. the proship side of byler twitter rose up and started to divide itself. i'll credit my own joining-the-dark-side to pyshiie and moo, formerly barbjeanisms, who were two popular artists called out respectively for sexualizing byler and generally being proship. similarly, people were called out and criticized for even following or interacting with those accounts after this discourse.

september 2022

hosegate is the most famous across the byler fandom, and it's when some users proposed that the scene in the pizzeria uses phallic imagery to imply mike turns will on (or vice versa) and a lot of people thought that was too sexualized, it caused a divide, and more fanpolicing, etc.

october 2022

the artist noodlesandtea was harassed for having liked arguably nsfw bakudeku art (they were shirtless, it wasn't explicit) on the same account where they draw characters who are minors. they also drew byler kissing, which was a problem for some? anyone who defended them was also called a pedo, naturally. noodles also got called out for having drawn fanart of the popular e-rated fanfiction....

the unmarked mixtape. a massively popular sequel to a massively popular fic, the red envelope. for a long time, those were the most widely recommended byler fics, but it very soon became taboo to even admit to reading them because the sequel has explicit sex and the first has them making out.

sonnet116 gate is another fic that was beloved and then rapidly turned on by byler twitter because it had implied, fade to black sex scenes. it was about them hooking up but had no smut. and even the non explicit idea of that was offensive and pedophilic of anyone who dared read it. around this time, another fic was called out for having will moaning into a kiss, because writing a teenager moaning was also offensive and pedophilic.

i'm told i (jana / troublebyler gate?) may have influenced a lot of people joining twitter for byler smut after writing illicit affairs and some other smutty oneshots in rapid succession, seeing a lot of byler shippers moving to the proship side of the fandom just to discuss and write byler smut. i also hosted a little fandom gossip column on my curiouscat where a lot of folks confessed to reading or writing smut while pretending to be "normal" in the "main" fandom. it basically revealed/implied that a large amount of popular authors, artists, and accounts were secretly pro byler smut, and that many proshippers were "undercover" in the "main" fandom.

the blocklist era. around this time the "main" fandom also created a "st twt safety" account on twitter which was basically targeted harassment and mass reporting of proshippers. the account does warn of some genuine bad actors sending gore images via dms, being racist, etc. but by far, the majority of it was simply calling out proshippers for sexualizing byler, sharing screenshots they thought were "gross," which only resulted in spreading nsfw content to unintended audiences of minors that likely never would have seen the nsfw accounts otherwise.

november 2022

practice kissing gate is where a handful of popular fic writers were criticized for writing practice kissing fics (such as undertow), and in fact, any amount of byler making out, because adults "fantasizing" about teenagers kissing was "gross."

the proship corner of st twitter continued to grow a lot thanks to so many lovely fan creators, all of whom i couldn't possibly list but who have done a lot for the community! but we continued to get bombarded with endless callout posts and block lists and witch hunting. people were unabashedly policing people's following lists and likes on twitter to call people out for engaging with any questionable users or content. (if you search byler twitter now you can still see the wreckage of so many witch hunts.)

onward through 2023

over time things have mostly calmed down, or at least enough of the folks on "opposing sides" of the fandom have mutually blocked each other to survive. this is likely also influenced by the hiatus leaving the fandom to quiet down, the collapse of twitter-turned-x having many users migrate their fandom content elsewhere, and the mass exodus of many people from the fandom for political reasons. if i had to guess, the ramp-up to season 5 will see all new conflict as more "casual" fans return to the fandom. but who's to say.

which brings us to now:

spicybylerpolls gate, wherein the byler tag on tumblr collectively had to reckon with the fact that people want byler to have sex and it doesn't make them creeps to vote in silly polls about it. people criticized the blog for being overly sexualized and pure fantasy versus more "acceptable" analysis, with many making sweeping moralizing statements about anyone who dared interact with the blog.

this has kicked off tumblr's own sort of horny revolution in encouraging folks to be more open on here, whereas previously we were confined to our corner of twitter.

so in summary:

people over and over again put fan creators on a pedestal just to turn on them when they're "betrayed" when a person's views did not one-to-one line up to theirs.

teens in the fandom especially were "betrayed" by adults in the fandom they thought were "safe" (and i would argue that self proclaimed "safe" adults in fandom are far more dangerous to real life minors than the proship fans who sexualize fictional characters but dont interact with real teens)

most everything has been fueled by widespread ageism at any fan over the age of 18, widespread homophobia and puritanism in regards to exploring queer sexuality or discussing sex at all

so much hate has been over what are essentially "thought crimes", with people watering down serious accusations like pedophilia into a petty insult over disagreements on fiction

and the cycle repeats itself endlessly until things devolve back into witch hunting and policing peoples following and likes etc

the best part to me is that every single cancellation just resulted in more people flooding to the horny side of the fandom to post more freely and without shame. every time a person on twitter posted screenshots of my account to say how "gross" it was (while simultaneously exposing my 18+ nsfw content to their audience of minors) i had a surge in followers. the more the fandom squeezes, the more people slip from its hold.

but that doesn't make the harassment campaigns okay, and it doesn't mean the fandom didn't do massive amounts of harm to real people in an attempt to protect fictional characters.

my hope going forward is that the fandom can coexist as a community where people don't have to like or agree with certain content to treat the people who create it with respect and dignity. and i hope that, while this side of the fandom might grow more on tumblr, we don't have to relive the same old discourses and go through the same cycles we went through on twitter.

and remember kids, the block button is both free and fun.

[kitkatpancakestack]

Lawd child. If y'all have managed to drag chronically unbothered k user kitkatpancakestack into engaging with drama, you know something's fucked.

Here's a disclaimer right off the bat: my skin is thicker than your spine.

I don't make callouts, bc it's foolishness. So I won't be posting names, bc I can maintain decorum. I keep that shit on lock, but some of u weren't raised in that keeping ur mouth shut abt things you don't understand etiquette. A tragedy.

I usually stay away from discourse here because I don't have respect for this fandom, as the users have regressed (notice how I correctly use the term here btw!! Pls take note!!) so it's usually just an exercise in pointless frustration. But y'all always have to escalate.

Broadly, I find it fascinating how online users would rather make callout posts that serve no purpose but to gain clout and inspire dogpiling, then to engage with other users in private conversations. It's been especially rampant here in the last year. But it's not new. I've been in this fandom since day 0. Here specifically, other users have been run off before bc of this, when they either did nothing wrong but made one post that a majority didn't personally cosign, or bc their intentions were so misconstrued that mob mentality effectively strung them up to die. If you move through the real world, you are unfortunately unable to make a claim into a vacuum of yes men. You are prompted to engage in debate and dialogue. This does also unfortunately require you to have compassion and an open mind.

Also, I hate to have to make everybody reckon with this, bc I know how thrilling it is to make everyone you don't like into a straw man for whatever crusade you're parroting atm, but there are actual real people on the other side of usernames. I know, it's crazy. And they are all complex people with feelings and emotions! I KNOW I hardly believe it myself.

I also wanted to offer some advice for when y'all ignore this and continue to make inane callouts. At least stand your ground, you know? Commit to the bit. If you're gonna make inflammatory accusations that serve no greater purpose besides pointing fingers and hissing, don't say things like you "cannot say what she specifically believes in or the nuances of it" bc then you're just telling on yourself! Right off the bat! It was never about them then was it? It was always about your agenda!! Why should I even listen to you then. If you want me to take you seriously, don't frame it as a petty personal attack. Bush league.

All this to say, genuinely, what are you doing? Nothing real. Nothing actionable. Nothing respectable. You don't have to like someone, you don't have to agree with everything they say. It costs zero dollars to stay in your lane and think for yourself. You will have had a net negative impact on your righteous "cause" that everyone will forget by tomorrow. But the people these callout posts target will remember it for much longer.

[littlest-bugz]

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My name is BUGZ! I'm a bodily 22 y/o multiply disabled, queer polyfrag DID system! My pronouns are they/he/she, and I prefer masculine or neutral terms :]

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Our account may not be fully SFW, but we never reblog or post pornographic material! I have a bad swearing problem, struggle with """adult""" issues [such as addiction], and due to my trauma, I have a hard time telling what is socially acceptable in regards for entirely being SFW. It's something I'm working on actively! The most explicit posts you will see are likely surrounding drugs and addiction. I prefer minors do not interact personally, but liking and reblogging is okay!

I do not engage in any sort of discourse. I seriously cannot be bothered, and a lot of discourse is chronically online anyways [sorry, not sorry]. If you really need labels to feel comfortable, I am anti-misinfo and anti-harassment. Anyone is allowed on my blog as long as you don't promote misinfo, harass others, partake in ANY form of bigotry, and are not a gross person [subjective to me].

Following that; I block very liberally! This is the reason I removed my DNI, actually. If I notice you're partaking in spreading misinfo, bigotry, spam me, or anything I just don't like, you go straight to the block chamber! I curate my space for me! Not to mention my old DNI didn't work entirely anyways.

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[deadsilkmoth]

Bruh, Gluskin discourse is back. 😭😭 "He's a victim wah wah wah", ok, so?? Women he killed are victims too. I get it when traumatic past is an explaination behind character's worldview, but not as "he did nothing wrong, his father beat him, my pookie bear🥺🥺". I feel like people are forgetting sometimes how porrige smells at home. Outlast is definetly NOT the type of fandom in which you need to justify liking bad people, because all of them are bad and can't be justified. Get yo sensitive ass back to mouthwashing, we're outlasting trials here, mf.

Also, imagine harrassing people over a fictional character. Like, don't you have something better to do? This is an extreme level of chronically online behaivor. Franco is not going to like you over shitting and pissing your diaper because someone dared to call him what he is, and smearing shit and piss all over other people's blogs. It's his job to act like a crybaby, not yours. I hope all the people harassing others over this char will do everyone a favor and go outside, you need to limit your screentime for the sake of your mental health.

[formula-ghost]

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[penguinlife]

QUICK NOTE

I believe Nic and Luke are both single.

Nic is chronically online. It is not even that far-fetched to believe she is on this app reading all our comments and theories (hi Nic, we love you).

I have come to the conclusion that Nic and Jake are working on a project together. Her friend that wrote Big Mood is also involved, I have a suspicion that it might even be S2 of Big Mood. They are only friends. They are poking fun at the fans jumping to conclusions, and to be honest, we deserve it. I can only imagine how unfun it is for Nic to have to explain to her family and friends that what is being said in the media and SM is not true, might even push her so far as to bring it up in a speech.

Now, if you are reading this, Nic... it is okay to accept accolades without pivoting to someone else to highlight them instead of acknowledging your own journey to success. It is okay to be proud. We see you.

I think Luke is probably still in contact with A. But their situationship is desolving as we speak. Luke would never treat someone he actually cares for the way he treats her. Her desperate attempts at showing that she is still relevant are quite frankly sad. Unlike Nic, Luke is not online. He opens social media when he gets a notification or if someone sends him a link. I don't think he is aware of the discourse. He likes As posts because he still wishes her well. That is normal.

If we can all come together and stop reacting to any news regarding their "personal" lives, we can take back the power. Just ignore it. Don't spiral. If Nic and Luke want to be together, they will be.

The fandom is a powerful machine, but it loses all its power when we let DM or any outlet like them control the narrative.

We know what love looks like, we have experienced it, seen it, and we know that there has only ever been love between Nic and Luke. You are welcome to prove me wrong. Holding awkwardly hands is not it. Neither is a New years kiss. The rest is just noise.

I am refocusing on what brings me joy. Polin and Bridgerton. I invite all the lukola community to do the same.

[longing-for-rain]

Just so you know, some of your anons are coming from a blog called @mal3vol3nt

I do not know if you’re aware, but she’s chronically obsessed with you and has also been sharing your ao3 on Twitter and inciting harassment there too, saying you’re “racist” and a “degenerate” and accusing you of writing underage. Her blog lately is mainly posts about you and it sounds very similar to some of your anons

I had to check this out for myself and...wow. All I can say is just...wow 🤣

No, I actually had no idea who this person was but from the looks of it she's been obsessed with me for months? I guess that explains the anons, I knew these people were mad, but apparently they've been over here steaming over my takes and are legitimately terrified of me. And I didn't even know them! Didn't realize I've been doing numbers on Twitter (or X whatever it is now) despite never having an account.

(The rest is below; please don't click if you do not wish to see insensitive discussions of rape or if you are not in the mood to read opinions so malformed they will melt your brain)

I guess I have another angry little troll who doesn't know what a captial letter is obsessed with me. Wish I could say it was the first time, but alas. A lot of particularly funny things here though.

> Advertising your terrible ragebait Twitter like anyone finds you important

Lmao.

> "write fanfiction of katara being raped so zuko can save her"

What a terrible misread of the point of that story, but then again, I don't expect much else from a terminally online crybaby who exclusively consumes media for children. If you can't handle adult discussions about adult topics, maybe don't read stories that are clearly marked 18+ and with far more extensive trigger warnings than any mainstream media will give you.

> "measuring the size of her breasts and hips"

Lmao. I said she is drawn differently in different scenes. That's it. You guys are another level of unhinged.

> "obviously fetishes and racism"

It's kind of creepy how they sexualize Zutara, while simultaneously accusing us of doing that. Why do you assume a fetish is the only reason behind someone liking a ship? Why would you say this about a group of people including many black, brown, and indigenous women? And minors? And if you want to get into the whole fetish thing, don't even get me started on the shit I've seen from the kataang fandom. Hint: when I say some of you have a "mommy fetish" I mean it in a very literal sense. Not to mention the whole kataang rape discord debacle.

> "sick fantasies about these minor characters"

I have never depicted a minor in a sexual situation. I make a point to explicitly avoid doing that, and all characters are depicted as adults. Your lack of media literacy isn't an argument. If you're going to criticize my writing, at least read it, which you clearly didn't. And if the content is too upsetting for you, you clearly lack the maturity to engage in these kinds of discussions.

Imagine treating ship discourse this seriously, actually unhinged. Who said that Ember Island Players is the real Katara? What? She talks a big number about coke-fueled rants, must have given it a try herself. How do you expect to be taken seriously when you never say anything of substance and screech "racism" or "colonizer" every other word but can't even articulate the significance of those terms? Honestly, at this point you sound like a right-winger who thinks saying "but I'm [identity] and I agree with [opinion]" is a golden ticket to winning every argument.

And look at this: apparently I deserved all the things she and her friends sent me? Actually I respect this take, at least she's honest about it unlike the people who cry and backpeddle when they get caught red-handed.

I'm actually cackling at this one. Genuinely laughing; my neighbors are probably concerned. It's like you took every single Bad Person Allegation and threw it into a blender. And to top it all off, apparently 24 is "pushing 30" now LMAO. And apparently I, a lesbian, could only possibly like Zutara because I think Zuko is hot. Not to mention the way they entirely miss the point of Zutara, but ATLA itself, by insisting that Zuko is a "violent imperialist" who is apparently unworthy of love by anyone who does not share his skin tone. Kind of ironic coming from the people crying that I'm a racist who doesn't understand the show. Next level clownery.

This is so funny. These people are absolutely terrified of me, no amount of unhinged anons will hide that. It's fine for men to tell me I deserve rape and death, that I'm a dirty pervert for daring to speak out about sexual trauma, and that women's sexual trauma is nothing but a fetish, but if I respond to that man telling him he should die for being so disrespectful and misogynistic to rape victims, I'm the monster? I stand by it. If you think what he said about rape and rape victims is acceptable, especially if you're a man, die! Hang from ropes, as I said.🥰

I guess I should be really scared though. This is clearly a very influential figure in the fandom who is renowned for her enlightened wisdom on the plight of fictional cartoon characters against evil imperialists like me (adult with job).

...oh wait. I was excited for a minute, I thought I was dealing with a celebrity. But even the "callouts" struggle to hit 20 notes :/

And to everyone sending me positivity during this time, thank you very much! But I wanted to show you this to assure you I'm doing just fine. People can act as weird as they want behind a gray face, but after seeing the kinds of whiny little brats they are in reality, it's pretty hard to take it seriously. "I got my plane ticket" my ass, that would require you to leave your decaying, trash-filled apartment.

[olderthannetfic]

This is a rant that is going to end in a question that I genuinely want the answer to.

I've recently seen (in the past year or so) an uptick in people online using the word "delusional" casually or as an insult. Worse even than that, "delulu" which I believe originated on Tiktok or Twitter (likely places for ableism to come from, yeah, fork found in kitchen etc etc). The only people I really see calling this behavior out are, you guessed it, actually delusional or psychotic people.

Typically it's thrown around to describe someone's "weird" or "chronically online" beliefs. Like using it to talk about reality shifters or RPF shippers who think their ship is actually together or etc. And, like, while I don't disagree that spiritual psychosis or "the belief that someone is sending me signals via social media" are real actual delusional behaviors/can lead to actual delusions, I really don't think that believing you can shift to Hogwarts to see Draco or that you have a mental connection to the Stranger Things universe or that Taylor Swift is queer and flagging via music videos really fits the criteria for spiritual psychosis or erotomania or what have you *in itself* - meaning if you live an otherwise normal life and only get out of touch with reality when you're on #MaraudersTok or r/LarryStylinson, you're likely not delusional, or at least not delusional enough for it to impact your functionality.

So, that begs the question, WHY? Why use delusional to describe stupid chronically online drama? Like, I'm being genuine, I truly do want to know why. Are these people misusing/misunderstanding what the word delusional means? Are they armchair diagnosing? Do they think these people are actually experiencing psychosis, and if so, why are they using said diagnosis as an insult or as part of their moral flaws? Why are they so bothered and obsessed with someone else's "delusion", especially when the delusion in question isn't hurting them and is just a stupid thing like thinking that some random celeb is about to hard launch their coming out or that they can teleport to a fictional world?

(also, PLEASE, I know it sounds like I have specific beef with shifters or gay rpf truthers, I DON'T, nor am i necessarily 'defending' these communities, 'cuz i know they do have actual issues outside of just being cringe or whatever. I don't want gaylor shift malfoy snapewives discourse, i want "why are you using a psychotic disorder to describe these fringe fandom communities" discourse, and in the circles i run in that's just the type of people who are described as delusional the most - I know that the overall issue runs much deeper, I just figured Id ask a fandom blog why the word is so prevelant in fandoms, especially in specific "types" of fandoms)

Like, I'm not looking for an argument of "it's ok to use delusional so casually" or "yeah i agree it's so fucked up that people throw that word around :/" all i want is an honest and concise answer of WHY delusional has become the Hot New Armchair Diagnosis For Weird People On TikTok or whatever.

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Lots of words get used with a colloquial definition and people aren't really thinking about their technical meaning.

K-pop fandom. Blame them.

[purewater100]

this blog is not cynophobia or ailurophobia safe. most other triggers / phobias can be tagged if asked.

my name's jackson. he/him only. white 🇺🇸 texan.

i'm in a lot of fandoms, but my recent rbs can mostly tell you what i'm fixated on atm.

things i'm into regardless of current fixation:

history (predominantly the 18th-19th century, not exclusively american although that's what i rb the most)

greek mythology (myths in general, but i mostly collect works by greek & roman writers)

shakespeare

sherlock holmes (primarily ACD & elementary)

professional wrestling (mostly wwe, but aew as well)

jojo's bizarre adventure

etc... * not ranked in any particular order

⬇️ fandom byf / opinions below! ⬇️

general fandom :

i reblog fandom discourse occasionally (almost exclusively character specific and/or larger issues [e.g. racism in fandom]) but am not in any way shape or form a discourse blog and while those who are are free to interact/follow, i won't follow back because i do not have the spine nor energy for it.

SALS & DL;DR & Anti-Harassment are my beliefs. Do not send or tag me in shipping discourse, because I don't care. So long as everything's tagged correctly, I really, really do not give a fuck what someone is reading/writing/drawing/etc.

fandom specific :

(jjba) i consider diavolo & doppio two seperate people & treat them as such. i consider most non-DID theories/headcanons disrespectful & wish to avoid interacting with people who believe/encourage them.

(pjo) i am a luke castellan defender / 'apologist'. if you tout the "he had the right idea but the wrong execution/method" ideology; call him or imply he's a pedophile; or just post anti- luke content in general, i will avoid interacting with you, just as i wish you'd avoid following me.

(pjo) the previous statement also applies to octavian. i'm an octavian apologist and while i don't support his methods, i believe he's a more complex character than both the fandom & rick want to acknowledge. making fun of him is fine (i do it all the time) but extreme/incessant anti- octavian posters will be ignored/blocked.

(da2) anders was justified in blowing up the chantry & the mage/templar war was going to happen soon whether he accelerated the tension or not. he is also an extremely bigoted man who can & should be criticized for a multitude of things. i also love him dearly.

(dao) if you genuinely believe cullen rutherford was a rapist / actively preying on circle warden for having a crush (that he DIDN'T act on), please do not come within 50 feet of me.

(da2) i like sebastian vael.

yes, i am chronically online. no, i don't really care. i 💚 fandom.

icon ac : @resonantbellsmile | star divider c : @saradika-graphics

[mallowmaenad]

Tumblr in the Guilty Gear Universe

💉doctor-feelgood Follow

If you support gear rights you're literally asking for another crusade. Those things are bioweapons and shouldn't be walking around in public especially where people have their kids and elderly.

🐲 dragon-is-smol Follow

You are literally a dr. baldhead rpf blog

🔮band-refrence Follow

I don't care what chronically online leftists have to say about Zepp using black tech is bad for the environment and could potentially bring stuff in from the backyard. You want eldritch horrors? Because that's how you get eldritch horrors.

🛠️steam-ingenious Follow

my president can beat your president in a fight

🔮band-refrence

That's not going to fucking matter when we're all choking on your fucking smoke and reality as we know it is falling apart because your stupid blimp country won't stop violating UN laws.

🛠️steam-ingenious

^^^wizardcel malding at perfectly constructed Zepp nuclear power plants because they need a 8 year degree to get a license to mod Dwarf Fortress.

📖 magic-the-gabbering Follow

This site is almost 200 years old and the discourse is still the same. Sigh. I miss MySpace.

⚓dolphingirldick Follow

OP arent you supposed to be in prison for all those warcrimes you did

📖 magic-the-gabbering

Those are my children and I'd prefer you not speak about them that way, but yes I am currently serving out my sentence in a maximum security prison I'm just also telepathically dictating my posts to my identical clone.

🟦 teal-album Follow

PSA Everyone block and report @burger-enjoyer , she was an active participant in Sanctus Maximus Populi Ariels' omnicide against mankind and works for the Illyrian military and I'm pretty sure she literally lives with the royal family.

🍔burger-enjoyer Follow

im only a few months old...

🤡 mandatory-fun Follow

don't you need to be like 14 or something to make a tumblr account?

🍔burger-enjoyer

I was born at a very old age...

🛍️destructive-goodwill Follow

I wana a vote onthe polls,,, but im an onest man so i canne only tap. bald option.

👹kingglizzy Follow

"18+ only or I block" mfs are literally so fucking gearphobic we just got free will less than a decade ago and ur saying I can't finger myself to some anime milf titties cause it took me less time to come out of a test tube than it took 4 u to buy cigarettes???

👨‍🏫backyard-baseball-2186 Follow

thats for humans dude

👹kingglizzy

king kiske's son is 3 years old and looks like a pirate on steroids i dont wanna hear it

🌚entered-sandman Follow

Honestly for a micro-blogging platform this place is pitiful. People are too busy arguing over petty minutiae of political views they ultimately agree on to get even the smallest ideological upper hand. For what? It's not like you're getting anywhere squabbling with fandom bloggers about what flavor of anarcho-marxist-leninist-maoism should triumph when some supposed "revolution" comes about. Not like any weak-willed discourse-spewing ingrates on this site actually has the strength to back up their ideals. I think I will go on a years-long hiatus and only return to see how you roaches have amused yourselves arguing about which character from a television show has the purest vision of a utopian society or should be arrested for sexual assault then promptly delete my account when I am through laughing at the pathetic excuse for social media posts you tumblrites serve up.

🌚entered-sandman

$##*&??/70!\)61¢@@^69<p_($6E%

⚙️ultimate-gear-chaser Follow

this guy stopped posting because he ran out of words

🏳️‍⚧️21centurycannaboidgirl Follow

girlies please stop comparing yourself to Bridget she's been on puberty blockers and E since she was a child and has rich parents

🌝hotlinebing Follow

im pretty sure Bridget never said he was even trans to begin with, can we not erase GNC men from the conversation?

🏳️‍⚧️21centurycannaboidgirl

im not having this conversation POTEMKIN BUSTER

🐍forcedragonned Follow

folks on this site are trying to cancel me for saying the gear-maker is sexy because i'm half-gear like that's the same thing as incest he didn't fuckin make me in a lab like some sort of frankenstein I was born in fucking Syracuse.

🛢️oozey-oozeborne Follow

youre tryna ride that peepaw dick.

🐍forcedragonned Follow

I am tryna ride that peepaw dick.

⛅here-comes-the-sun Follow

I think I just saw one of my followers post a deepfake of Potemkin beating up King Kiske?? This is why we need to make Arcane Intelligence image generators illegal.

🏳️‍⚧️21centurycannaboidgirl Follow

no that was real.

❌kurtcobalt6 Follow

tumblr banned me for my awesome and epic bunny dronification pics so I promise to only post circumcised smurf penis from now on.

🍲potroast-buster Follow

aren't you that user that paints his dick blue to get around the censor bot thingy?

❌kurtcobalt6

August 9th 2213.

🔐masterlockslut Follow

i cant handle those jokes about peeple with short attenchon spans if u jingle keys in front of me i am going to cum.

🍭scissormysister Follow

Hey OP

🔐masterlockslut

im in a monogamus relashonship plz dont flirt with mee. now i need to go relief myself on my hubby's teeth to calm down and reyafirm our bond

[chengfagshi]

antis unironically describe proshippers as “pshits” “proshitters” “pisscourse” and also have a racism problem that goes unchecked in their communities, AND they seem to care a lot more about this discourse than proshippers.  I’ve even seen one person making a poll about video essay topics and the most voted option was “proshippers and taboo topics”. But they’re not chronically online eh?

I honestly feel like antis are *only* in fandom spaces to get on proshipper's nerves. Like why are these 15 year olds bitching at us for what we like in fiction? I'm not gonna be lectured by a minor that unironically uses the term "proshitter". They're just miserable all the time. All they do is bitch and complain and don't bring a damn thing to fandom, other than giving us all a massive headache. Not to mention some of their DNIs. They get so ridiculous and loooooong. Like if your DNI is longer than the god damn bible, you maaaaaay want to get offline. Like I understand not wanting to interact with someone that ships something you don't like...but that's kind of YOUR job to block them. I'm not gonna look at everyone's seizure inducing carrd (and believe me, there's a lot of them) to find the magic words of "proship dni". I've seen ppl that even have "m/f shippers dni" on their carrd, as in, if you like any m/f ship, to not interact, despite a lot of us being queer ourselves and hcing characters as trans, bi, etc. etc. It honestly feels like they don't allow anyone to think differently from them. They just want everyone in fandom to be the exact same. Where tf is the fun in that? Like I'm moots with a lot of MHA fans. I personally don't care for MHA (like I only really like the ship dkbk and I like Dabi and that's pretty much it), but I'm not gonna be like "ewww, you like MHA. Get the fuck away from me." People are allowed to like stuff you don't like. Like yes, it's a little different when it comes to incest, lolisho and stuff like that. I understand someone not wanting to interact with that type of stuff. But once again, it is your responsibility to curate your own online space. It's not an artist's job, it's not a writer's job. It's your job. I have also seen ship art of Vi/Jinx before and someone commenting shit like "This traumatized me". Stfuuuuu. You did not get traumatized because an artist drew pixels kissing. Stop misusing words omfg.