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#also I like how friendly Peter is being with the Hulk
daydreamerdrew · 2 years
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Marvel Team-Up (1972) Annual #2
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Propaganda why Tony Stark is insufferable:
>Makes weapons
>Billionaire
>Made multiple AI Surveillance Robots
>Gaslight a child into fighting a super soldier in a foreign country for him
>His fans are annoying
Portrayed as a hero because? He chose to no longer mass produce war weapons and bombs after suffering the consequences. Huge hypocrite. Doesn't care about anyone but himself. Will backstab people if they believe in human rights when it's inconvenient to him. Seen as a hero while he's the personification of privileged people saying they're not privileged
There’s the usual “he’s a war criminal who only felt bad about it when he realized his weapons were killing white Americans as well as Arab people” reason, and also he’s just super annoying. You had to be there for the original Avengers shitty dialogue a la “we have a Hulk” that had Tumblr in a vicious chokehold. Also he was supposed to FINALLY go away after destroying all his suits in Iron Man 3 but he just… didn’t! Which is bullshit.
Tony is so annoying. When they first meet he straight up bullies Peter into fighting for his personal bullshit, insults and objectifies Aunt May in front of him, spits into his trashcan and is in general being pushy af. He blackmails Peter when he doesn’t wanna come to Germany with him AND HE DOESNT EVEN EXPLAIN WHY HE WANTS HIM TO COME. Uncomfortable vibes lol.
Tony being the one to tell peter “if Captain America wanted to hurt you he would’ve” when Peter was trying to state his case, yet HE’S also the one who put Peter in harms way when he didn’t even want to go with him???
Telling Peter that he should stick to being a “friendly neighborhood Spider-Man” (stealing his thing once again) when that’s what Peter _was_ doing before Tony took him out of his zone and filled his head with grander things to be apart of….bitch? Die. Ohh waaaait (jkjk) but yeah
Super long, sorry lol
Thinking about how in Homecoming when Peter accidentally caused that boat to get split in half because the Vulture’s gun exploded and Tony was acting like as if Peter was completely in the wrong for going there just because he did it without his permission. He was acting like as if Peter was out of line and “disobeyed him”, trying to act like his father. And then I remember how in CACW he’s the one who scouted Peter in the first place just because he saw he might be useful against a personal squabble between him and Captain America despite knowing that he was a kid and he’s just now acknowledging how dangerous it is because Peter “acted on his own”
Completely hijacking Peter’s superhero story and trying to control his every move (Training wheels protocol and baby monitor thing he put in the suit), acting like Peter should’ve known that Tony would send someone in despite the fact that he’d been ignoring him for 2 months since Civil War and not keeping him updated on anything!!
How the hell is peter supposed to know Tony is going to listen to him when he treats him like a kid instead of a superhero when it’s convenient for him? And when Tony loses his temper after Peter says he’s 15 not 14 like “the adult is talking” bitch he could literally flatten you without your suit!!!
I guess in a way he is acting like a father but like the absentee kind. He’s more like a sperm donor father trying to act like he has any rights over Peter’s life smh.
It’s not that reprimanding Peter for the situation is bad, but the way he makes it seem as if Peter is irredeemable as if Tony wasn't a literal weapons dealer lmfao. He could’ve said what was the truth about it without completely invalidating him saying shit like “no thanks to you” after Peter asked if everyone is okay when it’s literally thanks to Peter finding a lead on those guys in the first place that they were even noticed and it’s not like the FBI being there could’ve in no way caused a similar situation.
And then near the end of the movie when he’s getting crushed by the building rubble screaming and crying for someone to help him where the fuck is Tony?? That scene just proved that he never needed Tony’s suit in the first place to be Spider-Man since he had to use 100% his own strength to lift it off of him. I know he would’ve found the motivation even if Tony hadn’t been involved in the first place to give him the suit, take it away from him and have the words “if you’re nothing without the suit you shouldn’t have it“ echo in his head. Why did Tony even take the suit away? Like as if he expects Peter to stop being spoderman without it??? Holy fuck. This is why you don’t make it out of endgame /j /srs.
When Tony took this suit away from Peter he was like “God I sound like my dad“ shouldn’t that be a red flag to him? Wasn’t he literally just saying that he wished his dad was better than he was?? Lmfao
Propaganda why Victor Frankenstein is insufferable:
Victor Frankenstein is so pathetic not even tumblr could love him. The best parts of Frankenstein are the ones where your blessedly saved from being in his whiny, self deprecating, self centered pov. He’s so conceited that when his creation tells him directly “In revenge for killing the wife you were making for me I’m going to kill YOUR wife to see how YOU like it!”, Victor Frankenstein thinks that the creation is going to kill him and *only* him. (A decision And on top of it, he’s a shitty dad. Truly the worst.
this fucker has zero self awareness, which could maybe be fun to read about! except that 3/4 of the book consists of him constantly woe-is-me-ing about his own mistakes and how he shouldn't be responsible for any of his own actions.
He's not irredeemable, but his refusal to take accountability til it's too late is irritating
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pnf-n-mcu-is-life · 3 months
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Marvel Quotes I liked (gonna gradually add)
Avengers, Age of Ultron:
Strucker: “Keep going.” 
Agent: “But sir, They’re the avengers!”Literally two seconds later: 
Strucker: “No surrender!” *Turns to person* “I will surrender.” 
Nat: Could someone help with the bunker? Hulk: literally runs through the bunker, breaking it
Nat: thanks.
Tony, as the science dork he is: please be a secret door, please be a secret door, please be a secret door, yay! 🎉 
Scott, in Tony’s suit, instructing The Ants tm
Tony: who’s speaking???? 
Scott: it’s your conscience. We don’t talk a lot these days.
WandaVision: 
Ep. 5
Vision, turning back into human Vision: oh, Agnes, I was just fluffing this pillow, with my,….face. 
Ep. 6, Halloween:
Vision: *makes a pose like he’s about to shoot an arrow* I smell crime…
Darcy: Hey, there he is. The guy who almost got murdered by his own murder squad.
Director Hayward: You work for me?
Darcy: I actually don’t know.
Monica: *sighs*
Ep. 7, Breaking the fourth wall/ Wanda is having an existential crisis: 
Wanda: Look, we’ve all been there, right? Letting our fear and anger get the best of us, intentionally expanding the borders of the false world we created.
Billy: Do we have to go, Mom? Someone needs to be here to take care of you.
Agnes: Don’t worry, I don’t bite! 
…I actually did bite a kid once.
Ep. 8, Previously on:
Agnes/atha: C’mon. *Going to see Wandas worst memories*
Wanda: No.
Agnes/atha: Did you forget who’s got your kids locked away in her bewitched basement?
Dr. Strange:
Some bad guy: Mr. Strange…
Stephen: Doctor.
Guy: Mr. Doctor?
Stephen: It’s Strange.
Guy: Yes, I know that it’s strange.
Iron Man 2: 
Coulson, walking in: We need you for something.
Pepper: Oh hi Phil!
Tony: His name is Agent.
Spider-Man, FFH:
Peter: I-I can’t do this! I’m just your friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man.
Fury: Bitch, you been to space.
Peter: Wha-no- that was by accident!!
Fury: Too Bad.
Spider-Man, NWH:
Norman Osborn: Where exactly are we?
MJ, to the villains trapped in the sanctum: You’re in a wizard’s basement. 
Otto: What?
MJ: There’s no way to sugarcoat this. You’re trapped in a wizard’s basement.
 Tobey’s Peter: okay, Peter 3.
Andrew’s Peter: What? I thought I was Peter 2.
Tom’s Peter: Okay, okay. You’re Peter 2 (Tobey) and you’re Peter 3 (Andrew).
Green Goblin: *stabs Peter 2*
Peter 3: You okay?
Peter 2: Yeah, I’ve been stabbed before.
Peter 3: Ok, good good good.
[Just-the Peters. They’re so…brother. Y’know? And I live for it.
Also, I have resorted to calling Tom’s Peter Peter-Man.]
Wakanda Forever:
Riri: If we could find a way to dry his ass out, he won’t be as strong.
Shuri: Yo, that’s it.
Deadpool:
Wade, counting the bullets he has left while shooting people: 7, shit. 6, fuck, 5, shit-fuck.
Ant-Man and The Wasp, Quantumania:
Scott: You gotta jump and tap. *Knocks out a few people* See that?
Cassie: No, you were like, this small.
[WHY DOES REALISTIC MODOK LOOK LIKE THAT AhhhHHHHhhHHH]
Hawkeye:
Kate: Hey look, that one’s you. *points to Avenger cosplayers*
Clint: No, that’s Katniss Everdeen. Now, let’s go.
Jack: The secret to a good risotto is to…agitate it. Just enough.
Kate: So, how exactly?
Clint: *flashbacks to explosion after explosion* …
Guy with a thick accent who kiddnapped Clint: Kate Bishop is guy, bro.
Clint: Kate Bishop is not guy.
Guy: Kate BIshop is guy in costume.
Clint, Karen Edition: Can I speak to your manager? This is like talking to furniture.
Gotg Vol. 3
Peter: People on Earth die when they’re like, 50.
Mantis: They die when they’re 50???
P: I dunno, something like that.
M: What’s even the point of being born?
P: Exactly! [You good dude]
M: Are you about to die?
P, shocked: I’m not 50!
Mantis: What colour button did you push?
Peter: Blue, for the blue suit!
Nebula: Blue is the open line for everyone.
Mantis: Orange is for blue. Blue is for orange, Yellow is for green, green is for red, and red is for yellow.
Drax: No, Yellow is for yellow, green is for red, and red is for green.
Mantis: How do you know that?
Drax: Try it then.
Mantis, to Peter: HELLLOOOOO.
Peter, feedback ringing in his ears: How the hell was I supposed to know all of that?
Drax: Seems intuitive.
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6rookie-writer0110 · 9 days
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It took a while but I finally finished
A Story request: miles morales meeting black lightning & his family/team, basically played out like in the super girl episode 18 world’s finest. Miles goes through the dimensional portal wormhole with the spider gang Gwen, Ham, Noir, Peni, Peter B., Hobie Brown, Margot Kess going after the Spot; where Spot sends Miles to another earth and Miles falls out of the portal into the arrow-verse prime earth portal:
From there on, he saves Jennifer Pierce (while she’s patrolling as Lightning) when she got hit by fighting with a meta-villain and swings her to safety on the rooftop of a building. Both, skeptical at first however, both unmasked & introduced themselves; as soon as then miles mentioned he’s Spider Man, Jen doesn’t recognize that name; leading to miles asking more questions (if she knows the other marvel heroes like iron man, Thor, hulk, star-lord, falcon, black panther, dr strange) with Jen also not recognizing any of those names and then Miles realizes he’s in a different Earth and he needs Jen’s help.
Miles and Jennifer then go to the Anissa & Grace’s apartment, miles quickly searches on the computer for anything: like for SHIELD, Avengers Tower, or Stark Industries or his friends & family with no success. Then Jefferson, Lynn, Anissa, Gambi, Khalil, Grace, Brandon marshall, Erica moran, and TC enter the apartment to see if Jen’s alright from her fight and then they see Miles and asking Jen who he is, then Miles introduces himself to the group.
Then Jennifer talks about Miles being from another Earth. Everybody is surprised about that, especially Gambi & TC, being fascinated with the multiverse. Miles talks about the multiverse being real. Jefferson can agree with that since he experience being different earths as well meeting Team Flash. Miles then talks about his SpiderGang, the Avengers, GOTG. He also talks about being Spider-Man:
Lynn: Sorry a what-Man?
(Miles shows off his powers by jump up and crawls all over the ceiling which impresses and creeps some of the group members)
TC: okay that is so cool.
Anissa: (sarcasm) yeah and not totally creepy at all.
Miles gets down from the ceiling, speaks on his other powers: camouflage, electricity, and his spider-sense. Even showing his wrist web shooters when asked if he shoots webs from his “rear” side. Everybody, in return, shows off their powers and origins to Miles.
Khalil: I know 23 martial arts.
Miles: oh that’s dope
Khalil: but I got brainwashed by ASA and I have the poison touch.
Miles: okay less dope.
After getting to know each other. The team agree to help get miles home (since his dimensional goober watch [created by Hobie] is broken from hitting a wall from swinging in saving Jen) and will get the watch fixed. Meanwhile they need miles help in fighting against Tobias Whale, Gravedigger, and Odell’s ASA army.
Miles and Jen developed a friendship even Jen taking Miles out to get burgers while Khalil gets slightly jealous. Later on, Miles and Khalil have a friendly sparring session:
Miles - so who am I sparring with you or Painkiller.
Khalil: you better hope, it’s me
Khalil wins the match & miles learns from him on how to fight better. Miles tells Khalil that he & Jen are just friends / and that miles has his own “Jennifer” - Gwen. Because of this, Miles and Khalil became friends.
Throughout the story, Miles gets into a personal talks with Khalil & the Pierce family: talking about superhero responsibilities (miles taking over spider-man after his Peter Parker died); the villains they previously or currently face (ie Looker, Dr Jace, Tobias \ Kingpin, Thanos, & green goblin, the Spot). Talking about family (Miles’s parents, him being Afro Latino). Miles, Khalil, The Pierces talk about dealing with loved ones’ death. For Miles: it was his uncle Aaron, For Khalil: it was his mother & his older brother, For Jefferson: it was his father. Miles also talks about Gwen and his Spider-Gang, also talking about the events that happened in across the spider verse. While he forgave them, he’s still mad at them and has a hard time trusting them mainly Peter B. Peni And Gwen.
While superpatrolling w/ Khalil & Jen; all three face off Tobias’s meta human Masters of Disaster: Shakedown, Coldsnap, and New Wave. Which fails as the trio gets minor injures & Miles get captured by the goons.
At the markovian base: Odell, Tobias, & G.D. try to interrogate Miles (who’s tied up and locked in a cell) and trying to take a blood test in gaining/studying his powers. With Tobias trying to unmask him but miles shocks him. Odell seems fascinated with Miles, especially figuring out he’s from another Earth, & intends to experiment on him for his Spider DNA. Before the blood test could start, B.L. & his team attack the base and free Miles from his cell.
With the rest of the team taking on Odell, the ASA, & Tobias; Miles, Jennifer, Brandon, and Khalil tag-team in taking on Gravedigger. Gravedigger manages to secretly escape the chaos while Tobias, Odell, ASA are all defeated & arrested.
Gambi fixes the goober-watch and Miles says goodbye to everyone while going inside the portal to where he meets up with the SpiderGang in his own universe where he talks about his journey and then continues with his mission in stopping Spot.
also cameos from the flash, supergirl, batwoman (Ryan); where Jefferson talks about the markovian events and about Miles.
I like it. This time i will make sure it won't be deleted 😅
Fan-Cast for MCU Miles Morales? Or just miles from the spider verse
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httpscomexe · 8 months
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Blood is a Liquid
Summary: With Wade Wilson as your bodyguard, you don’t have a lot of freedom. Or rather you would if he didn’t get jealous over nothing.
(Find what I'm currently writing by checking my pinned post)
Parings: Wade Wilson x Reader
Warnings: Not many. Jealousy, insecurity, talk of murder and sex trafficking, joke relating to Epstein Island, I know that’s offensive to some people, and foul language.
Word Count: 3376 (Find all chapters here) Chapter 2
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You crept slowly into the kitchen in the compound to eavesdrop into the conversation your father was having with some unknown stranger in a red suit.
“I’ll pay you based on work and based on how she describes her time with you, not by hours or contract.” You had heard your father speaking, quietly as if not to wake you. “She won’t be happy about you following her around, she doesn’t trust many strangers, so try to be her friend while you protect her.” You stepped a little closer, still crouched behind the counter top, trying to get a glimpse of the man in the red leather suit.
“And you said she can be trouble? How so? She’s like 12.”
“Not like. She IS 12. But she has powers she’s not the best at controlling, and she has some anger issues. And just like she has trouble trusting people, she gets really anxious around new people.”
“So I’ll be babysitting an angry, red hot, powerful 12 year old girl.”
“Not babysitting, I’m hiring you to protect her, as a bodyguard, I don’t want to see her with even a paper cut.”
“Dad?” Your small, 12 year old girly voice was boosted with sleep as you peeked over the corner of the counter top. You stood there dressed in your cozy Captain America pajamas, and a small hulk plushie in your arms.
“Hey jellybean, you’re supposed to be in bed.” Your father approached you tiredly, setting a small glass of what looked like apple juice down on the countertop.
Your father has always protected you from everything. From the word alcohol, all the way up to the murderers and sex traffickers in the world.
“Who’s he? His suit looks like Peters.” You remember watching your dad design every spiderman costume, he was only 3 years older than you, and he treated you like a brother.
Your father sighed.
“This is Wade Wilson, I’m hiring him to protect you while I’m gone for the next month or so.” You had stared as ‘Wade’ removed his mask, underneath that mask was an older man. His hair was a light brown to match his eyes, but his hair was almost gray, his age peeking through slightly, but yet he still looked young.
“Hey there Y/N.” He waves to you slowly, clearly not wanting to alarm you. It was true, you hated new people and only ever trusted your father.
“I’ll be leaving now. So Wade, if you’ll escort her back to bed that would be great, I need to get a few things together.”
Yeah, you hated new people, but this guy he seemed… Cool.
“Alright, little Ms. Stark, let's get you to bed.” He said as he lifted you into his arms, then carefully took you back to your room.
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Now after being watched over by him for years you’ve gotten used to seeing him at the compound.
He’s sorta become somewhat of a brother to you than a bodyguard, sometimes when he wasn’t on a contract to watch you he’d take you out for ice cream, or even drive you downtown to just do some friendly shopping.
You’re 16 now, you’ve always wanted to convince your father that ‘I’m too old to be babysat, I can take care of myself, I was raised by assassins!’ You had said, hinting towards Natasha Romanoff and Clint Barton. He knows you have immaculate fighting skills, and you’ve always had a great aim, sometimes even startling Clint with your eyes.
But you also loved being around Wade. He’s always brought a smile to your face or helped you laugh during hard days.
Sometimes you’ve even felt yourself a little too drawn from him. He was practically your only friend ever since Peter went off to college with Ned and MJ.
“Look who’s awake.” Your father was in the kitchen, pouring himself a cup of coffee. You were sure he was up all night based on his groggy hair and dirty hands.
“Good morning to you too.” You laughed a little as you speaked, feeling bad for his lack of sleep, but you knew his work has always been his priority. Even after knowing and living with him for all your life, sometimes you felt like you didn’t even know your dad.
“Good morning Jellybean.” He put his coffee down for a moment, drawing you closer with his right arm to envelop you in a tight hug, then he pressed a loving kiss onto your temple, ruffling his fingers through your hair for a moment before releasing you.
“I’m going to Europe early.”
It was if he threw those words at you.
“I thought you weren’t leaving until next week.”
“It was supposed to be next week, but they’re telling me they need my ‘expertise’ urgently. So I’m leaving in an hour, Wade is on his way right now.”
Wade.
“Okay, well… I’ll miss you.”
“I’ll miss you too Y/N, I’ll be back in a few weeks.”
He brought you into another hug, this time more tight and thoughtful than the last, it made you think that maybe he didn’t even want to go on this work trip…
“There’s my little criminal war case, just like I left her.” Wades’ voice fills the compound as he makes his way in, his eyes almost immediately landing on you, laying face down on the floor in front of the TV with a pillow under your chin and your phone in your hands, but as soon as you see him, you drop everything and get to your feet, ready to throw a hug around his neck.
“Woah there tiger!” He laughs as your arms wrap around his neck, and he drops his bag to the floor to wrap his arms around your waist, holding onto you as he twirls a little with you in his arms.
“Hey red!” You laugh, joy in your eyes as he hold onto you. “What’re we doing first??? Roller skating? Pumpkin patch maybe? Oh! Or maybe-”
“Shhhh…” He pressed his index finger to your lips, hushing you. “Were not going to either of those and we’re not going to whatever the third one was either unless it was a strip club, then I’ll happily oblige to your wishes.”
You make a pouty face, you really wanted to go to the pumpkin patch. You go every year with him.
“No honey today…” He puts you down finally, pausing mid sentence and placing his hands on either side of your face. “We’re going to the fair, there's a pumpkin patch there that we can go to.”
You process what he says. You had a date with a boy to go to the fair today alone, then your dad had a change of plans.
“That’s awesome! Really!?” You shout, excitement running through your body as you realise you might be able to un-cancel your date.
“Yes really, I already got the tickets online, but I’ll have to drop you off, run a quick errand, then I’ll be there again and we can go looking for pumpkins.”
“My bodyguard is gonna leave me alone in a fair filled with people I’ve never seen before in my life?” You joke.
“Well if you’d like to go to the DMV with me, then I’m not holding you back.”
“No thank you.” You make a sickened face, making him laugh a little.
“Go put on some warm clothes, we're leaving in-” He lifts up his right arm as if to check his watch, and you giggle to yourself when you realise he doesn’t even have a watch. “Probably about 10 minutes. I could be wrong, my watch is a little off.”
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“Here we are.” Wade pulls up to the fair at the entrance so you don’t have to walk through the parking lot. “I'll see you in about an hour, don’t do anything stupid, your father will hang me for it and if he can’t find me he’ll put a billion dollar bounty on my head.” He sighs, clearly not the biggest fan of leaving you alone, but he had work to do. “And if that doesn’t work? Well then that widow of his?” You look at him sitting in the driver's seat. He brings his hand up to his temple and makes a gun shape out of his fingers, popping his lips to make some cartoon shooting sound.
“Yea I get the idea, you won’t die regardless.” You laugh, kissing his cheek before stepping out of the vehicle, one you didn’t even know he owned until tonight.
“See you in a little Y/N, behave!” He yelled one last time through the window that was already halfway rolled up. As he drove away in the black sports car, you took a look at the licence plate on the back that read ‘FR4NCl5,’ thinking nothing of it other than his poor sense of humour.
“Hey, look who it is.” Harry approached you as soon as he saw you, reaching his arms out to bring you into a loose hug.
“Hey Harry, sorry I’m late, my babysitter drives super slow.” You think back on the highway that leads to the fair, he was doing about 20 in a 75, only speeding up when a cop grew tired of his speed and blurted his sirens.
“I can’t believe your dad still has a babysitter wrung on your ass like you’re a toddler or something.” He laughs at his own poor joke as he steps next to you, wrapping his arm around the back of your neck to lead you around the fair.
“So what’re we doing first?”
“How about some arcade games? I bought some tickets for a few of them I thought you might like.”
“Like?”
“The duck grabbing one, where you grab a rubber duck and the number on the bottom relates to your prize, and then another one I got cause I thought you might like the prizes, some stuffed cows and other farm animals.”
“Okay, what other tickets did you get?”
“Well for myself I got the basketball one, a punching bag one, a parkour one…” His voice dazed off out of your mind as he continued to list just about every single game at the fair that first dates use to try impressing their girlfriends because they think it’s attractive to be able to throw a ball at some pins and win some fucked up looking teddy bear for about $50 worth of tickets. “And then I also got this one I think I might try twice even, it's a pullup bar, if you can hold yourself up for a minute you win.”
“That’s a lot, what bank did you steal from to afford all that?” In your peripheral vision you could see his eyes squint as if he was trying to understand your joke, then he shook it off and pressed a kiss to the top of your head.
“So anyways, looks like you decided against the dress afterall?” He mumbles, he really was hoping you’d wear that skimpy orange dress but you ended up settling for dark sweatpants and a baggy hoodie with Jack skellington on the front, and a plain black hat you’d taken from your dad which you wore the hood from the hoodie over it, hoping it was conceal your identity as Tony Stark's daughter, even if just a little bit.
“Yea, I decided it was too cold outside.”
“Aren’t you like… immune to the cold because of your powers?” This little shit.
“Yea, but my babysitter told me to wear a hoodie and I’ll take dressing comfortably over dressing for the Met Gala at a little downtown fair.”
“Well you know, I was just… hoping to see you in it.”
“Sorry, maybe next time when it’s a little warmer outside, but today it’s freezing.” You nod your head towards the crowd of people walking in front of you two, everyone wearing heavy jackets and thick pants. Some wore hoods over their heads, some were wearing a beanie, and most people wore both.
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“Damn!” He shouted as he missed his shot. The pins were only about six feet away and yet he still managed to miss the shot. “Here’s another ticket, I bet I can get it this time.”
“Sir, I need to close my booth.” The man behind the stand looked at Harry, tiredness written all over his face. It was time for him to close his booth but Harry INSISTED that he would win the big squish-mallow hanging off the top right corner of the booth.
“No, no, no. I can do it this time, trust me.”
Looking at your watch, you realised almost an hour had already passed of him using every single ticket on this stupid game he would never win.
So much for a date.
The man behind the booth sighed and handed Harry another ball, stepping back so he could throw, exhaustion in his step.
Harry takes a step back, confidence in his eyes as he rolls his shoulders, holds the ball with both hands and brings it back behind his right shoulder as if he was charging his throw. His chest rises and falls as he takes a deep breath. The worker sits up a little from where he was leaning against the wall, he thought he might actually hit it this time. Harry prepares himself one more time, lifting his left foot up a little to add more power to his throw, and you cross your arms, waiting for him to just throw the damned ball.
And finally.
He throws it.
He throws it hard enough for you to see the muscles in his arm flex through his thin jacket, then his arm flops a little as he lets go of the ball, and its thrown fast, fast enough to knock someone out.
And yet it still misses.
The joy on the workers face immediately turns into fear as the ball goes straight for him, dead for the centre of his forehead, which makes you stand up straight, you knew you wouldn’t catch the ball on time but you also didn’t wanna be blamed for a murder.
Luckily.
He ducked just in time.
The ball hit the back of the tent, creating a small hole, but not one big enough for the ball to pass through.
“Shit man!” He yelled as the ball bounced back off the tent and rolled down onto the floor. “You almost fucking killed me!” He shouts, kicking the ball in a way to express his anger.
“Sorry, sorry, I got distracted!” Harry apologises frantically, but he continues to stare at the ball sitting on the concrete floor now.
“No, no!” You’re absolutely not getting another shot, you know what? Here.” The man rips the squish-mallow off the wall, tossing it to Harry, then he grabs a stick and pulls the door down on his tent, slamming it shut, making you flinch a little.
“Hey I uh… I won it?” He hands it to you.
The squish-mallow was cute, considering it was an ant man stuffie.
“Thank you, Harry.” You say it almost embarrassingly, you felt kind of bad for the worker obviously, but at least you got a squish-mallow, and no one ended up dying or in the ER with a circle shaped imprint on their skull for the rest of their life.
“Right I uh… Of course.” He says nervously. “I’m uh, gonna go to the restroom.”
You watch as he walks away to the restroom, observing your newly acquired toy. There’s a few details that they got wrong on the suit, but it's decent for a company where no one has met Scott in real life, but you have, and the little details are all missing, you’d know since you’ve stolen his helmet once or twice to make things go your way.
You made your way to a bench, sitting down with your Antman-Mallow sitting next to you, taking a selfie with it and sending it to Scott, and wondering why the fuck Wade was an hour late.
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“What the fuck is that?”
There’s a brief moment where your heart drops from the unfamiliar voice coming from behind you.
“What’s what?” You whisper, realising it was only your bodyguard, fashionably late.
“On your arm, you’re cut, who did it, describe them.”
“Woah there red, uh, you did it, remember?”
“Whaaaat?” He extends his arms out to you for a hug which felt almost spine crushing. “I don’t remember doing that-”
“Why are you so late?”
“It’s rude to interrupt you know.”
“Yes but… I was worried.”
“I’m always a little late, had to run some errands.”
What if I’d died?”
“Then I’d kill you again.” He chuckled and released you finally. “Who won that for you? I know you didn’t win it yourself.” He nods towards the big squish-mallow sitting on the bench where you were before he’d arrived.
“Oh, I thought I told you; I invited a guy from school to come here with me as a date, he’s super sweet and he won it for me.”
You could visibly see something in his face just distort immediately when the word ‘date’ popped out of your mouth.
“I don’t think daddy would be very happy with me if he found out you’re getting humped by a squirrel.” He glanced up and his eyes landed on the guy behind you.
“Hey, Y/N” Your date's voice yelled from behind you, instead of turning around you only studied your bodyguard's face further, trying to understand what mood this new info is putting him in.
“Squirrel?”
“What about a squirrel?” In your peripheral, you could see your date with the newly won squish-mallow in hand.
“Nothing Harry, don’t worry about-”
“Fuckkk , his name is Harry. We’ll be going home now, I feel itchy.”
“You just got here though Wade.”
“And you’re dating a Harry.”
“And?”
“And I feel that’s a safety issue so based on my contract I’m required to retreat and take you to safety, if you’d like to complain, you can very willingly contact your father and address the issue, I’ll gladly give him my statement on you hanging out with a-” He paused and stared Harry down. “Hormonal teenager with a really bad hairstyle.”
“Okay and what if I refuse to leave?” You object, crossing your arms over your chest to com-bat his petty request.
“Are we gonna ignore what he just said about me?”
“Yes.” You turn to Harry before turning back to wade. “Well?”
“Your father stated that I can use force if you attempt to refuse removal from something that could end in a tragic event.”
“You would never use force on me though, would you?” You make a pouty face, wanting to make him feel bad even if it never works.
“Honey, sweetie, pudding, my little firework…” He reaches out and places his hands on either of your shoulders. “You lighthearted, freakhead, mastermind daughter of a billionaire, crazy teenager that I so willingly take care of because I must.” He added. “Keep making that face and I won’t be the only one willing to use force on you, next thing you know some 80-year old politician might ship you off to some island.”
“I’m not leaving.”
“You gonna tell that to the politicians?” You cross your arms objectively. “Force it is.”
You squealed as he ducked down slightly to lift you up off the ground, his shoulder and part of his arm going above your stomach and one of his arms wrapping around your waist while his other remained at his side.
“Damnit- Wade- Put me- UGH!” You banged on his back, easily giving up and as he turned away, you could see the confusion on Harrys’ face. “Sorry!”
“Were- were over!” He said, almost like he was scared, but you noticed he was no longer holding your squish-mallow.
At least you got something out of him.
“You never answered my question.”
“What question?”
“What the fuck is this?” He repeats himself, holding up your squish-mallow that he took from Harrys’ hands.
“It’s Scott- err… Antman.” You hum a little. “I don’t know if you’ve ever met him but he-”
“Trust me, I know who you’re talking about.”
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Having some thoughts about the references and inspirations used for the Bad Batch’s designs.
So Boba Fett is my absolute favorite character and Temeura Morrison was perfect casting. I went to see the 2008 TCW movie in theaters because I was so excited to see him again, even if he was animated. You can imagine my disappointment. Whoever was on screen was not Temeura Morrison. You could sort of see a resemblance if you squinted and didn’t think too hard about it. They replaced Temeura with Racially Ambiguous G.I. Joe. If I didn’t know better and someone told me the animated clones are space Italians from the moon of New Jersey I would buy it. One Million Brothers Pizzeria and Italian Bistro. Not that there’s something wrong with being space Italian, I just don’t think it’s the right choice for the Fetts. The design got slightly improved by season 7 but it still bugs the hell out of me.
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I did eventually get into the show later and (of course) got invested in the clones. Unfortunately, they were largely sidelined by the Jedi storylines. Out of the two new main characters created for TCW, Ahsoka definitely got more development and focus than Rex. When they announced The Bad Batch, I was excited to see a show specifically devoted to the clones… at least that’s what it said on the tin. We have all seen what lurks beneath those stylish helmets.
Jango Fett, you are NOT the father.
So who is?
Based on interviews with Filoni, it sounds like the Bad Batch was a George Lucas idea. And like all his ideas, it’s super derivative. The original trilogy directly lifted elements from sci fi serials, westerns, and samurai movies, more specifically Kurosawa films like The Hidden Fortress. For The Bad Batch character designs, the influence is obviously American action and adventure movies.
Now let’s get specific. Bad Batch, who’s your daddy?
Hunter
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Sylvester Stallone as Rambo in First Blood 1982. That bandana has become an integral part of the iconic action hero look. You see a character wearing one and it’s a visual shorthand for either “this character is a tough guy” like Billy played by Sonny Landham in Predator 1987, or “this character thinks he is/wants to be a tough guy” like Brand played by Josh Brolin in The Goonies 1985 or Edward Frog played by Corey Feldman in The Lost Boys 1987.
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Hunter’s model is closest to the original clone base. If you look closely you will see the eyebrows are straighter with a much lower angle to the arch. His nose is also not the same shape as a standard clone like Rex, including a narrower bridge. It’s certainly not Temeura Morrison’s nose. Remember what I said about space Italians? It didn’t take much to push the existing clone design to resemble an specific Italian man instead of a specific Māori man. The 23&Me came back, and Hunter inherited more than the bandana from Sylvester.
Crosshair
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The long narrow nose, the sharp cheekbones, the scowl. That’s no clone, that’s just animated Clint Eastwood. Not even Young and Hot Clint Eastwood from Rawhide 1959-1965. With that hair, I’m talking Gran Torino 2008. The man of few words schtick and family friendly toothpick in lieu of cigar are pure Eastwood as The Man With No Name from Sergio Leone’s spaghetti westerns A Fist Full of Dollars 1964, For a Few Dollars More 1965, and The Good the Bad and the Ugly 1966.
In a way, this is full circle because the actor Jeremy Bulloch took inspiration from Clint Eastwood for his performance as Boba Fett in ESB.
Wrecker
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In an interview Filoni lists the Hulk as an (obvious) inspiration for Wrecker. Ever seen the old Hulk tv show from 1978? Well take a look at the actor who played him, Lou Ferrigno. Would you look at that. Even has his papa’s nose.
You could make the argument that Wrecker was influenced by The Rock, an appropriately buff ‘n bald Polynesian (Samoan, not Maori) man. But look at him next his Fast and Furious costar Vin Diesel and tell me which one resembles Wrecker’s character model more.
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Tech
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Tech is a little trickier for me to place. If he has a more direct inspiration it must be something I haven’t seen. That said, his hairline is very Bruce Willis as John McClane in Die Hard 1988. His quippiness and large glasses remind me of Shane Black as Hawkins from Predator 1987. In terms of his face, he looks a but like the result of McClane and Hawkins deciding to settle down and start a family. Although, Tech’s biggest contributors are probably just everyone on TV Trope’s list for Smart People Wear Glasses.
And finally,
Echo
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Oh Echo. Considering he wasn’t created for the Bad Batch, he probably wasn’t based on a particular character or movie. But if I had to guess, his situation and appearance remind me a lot of Alex Murphy played by Peter Weller in Robocop 1987. However, Robocop explored the Man or Machine Identity Crisis with more nuance, depth, and dignity. Yikes.
The exact tropes and references used in The Bad Batch have been done successfully with characters who aren’t even human. Gizmo from Gremlins 2: The New Batch 1990 had a brief stint with the Rambo bandana. I could have picked any number of characters for Defining Feature Is Glasses but here is the most cursed version of Simon of Alvin and the Chipmunks. Suffer as I have. Marc Antony with his beloved Pussyfoot from Looney Tunes has the same tough guy with a soft center vibe as Wrecker and his Lula (also a kind of cat). Hell, in the same show we have Cad Bane sharing Cowboy Clint Eastwood with Crosshair. I actually think Bane makes a better Eastwood which is wild considering Crosshair has Eastwood’s entire face and Bane is blue.
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So we’ve established you don’t need your characters to look exactly like their inspirations to match their vibe. So why go through the trouble and cost of creating completely new character designs instead of recycling and altering assets they already had on hand? Just slap on a bandana, toothpick, goggles, and make Wrecker bigger than the others while he does a Hulk pose and you’re done. Based on the general reaction to Howzer it would have been a low effort slam dunk crowd pleaser.
But they didn’t do that.
So here’s the thing. I like the tropes used in The Bad Batch. I am a fan of action adventure movies from the 80s-90s, the sillier the better. I am part of the Bad Batch’s target audience. Considering what I know about Disney and Lucasfilm, I went in with low expectations. I genuinely don’t hate the idea of seeing references to these actors and media in The Bad Batch. I don’t think basing these characters on tropes was a bad idea. If anything it’s a solid starting point for building the characters.
The trouble is nothing got built on the foundation. The plot is directionless, the pacing is wacky, and the characters have nearly no emotional depth or defining character arcs. They just sort of exist without reacting much while the story happens around them. But I can excuse all of that. You don’t stay a fan of Star Wars as long as I have not being able to cherrypick and fill in the gaps. This show has a deeper issue that shouldn’t be ignored.
Why do the animated clones bear at best only a passing resemblance to their live action actor? In interviews, Filoni wouldn’t shut up but the technological advancements in the animation for season 7. So if they are updating things, why not try to make the clones a closer match to their source material? Why did they have to look like completely different people in The Bad Batch to be “unique”? Looking like Temeura Morrison would have no bearing on their special abilities and TCW proved you can have identical looking characters and still have them be distinct. In fact, that’s a powerful theme and the source of tragedy for the clones’ narrative overall.
Here’s Filoni’s early concept art of Crosshair, Wrecker, Tech, and Hunter. (Interesting but irrelevant: Wrecker seems to have a cog tattoo similar to Jesse’s instead of a scar. Wouldn’t it have been funny if they kept that so when they met in season 7 one if them could say something like “Hey we’re twins!” That’s a little clone humor. Just for you guys 😘)
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None of these drawings look like the clones in TCW, much less Temeura Morrison. Let’s be generous. Maybe Filoni struggles with drawing a real person’s likeness, as many people do. But he had to hand this off to other artists down the line whose job specifically involves making a stylized character resemble their actor. Yet the final designs missed the mark almost as much as this initial concept. Starting to seem as if the clones looking more like Temeura Morrison was never even on the table. It wasn’t a lack of creativity, skill or technical limitations on the part of the creative team. I don’t think there is an innocent explanation. They went out of their way to make the final product exactly how we got it.
This goes beyond homage. They could have made the same pop culture references and character tropes without completely stripping Temeura Morrison from the role he originated. It was a very purposeful choice to replace him with more immediately familiar actors from established franchises and films. It wouldn’t shock me if Filoni, Lucas, and anyone else calling the shots didn’t even think hard or care enough about the decision to immediately recognize a problem. And I don’t think they believed anyone else would either. At least no one whose opinion they cared about. Those faces are comfortingly familiar and proven bankable. They are what we’re all used to seeing after all. They’re white.
Lack of imagination, bad intentions, or simple ignorance doesn’t really matter in the end. The result is the same. Call it what it is. They replaced a man of color with a bunch of white guys. That’s by the book garden variety run of the mill whitewashing. There’s no debate worth having about it. For a fanbase that loves to nitpick things like whether or not it’s in character for Han to shoot first or Jeans Guy in the Mandalorian, we sure are quick to find excuses for clones who look nothing like their template. Why is that? If you don’t see the problem, congratulations. Your ass is showing. Pull your jeans up.
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biisexualemma · 3 years
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unrequited pt.2. peter parker
word count: 3.6k
warnings: anxiety, panic attack? i guess kind of
requested: yea a few people asked for this lol
plot: you haven’t seen peter for weeks and start to worry about him
a/n: i finished re-writing this late last night and i’ll be honest with you i haven’t checked it over so sorry if there are any mistakes but i’m tired sis goodnight! lmk if you like this! pls comment / share!
pt.1 / marvel masterlist / multi-fandom masterlist
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"ned... you're so wrong for so many reasons," m.j.'s expression was flat, her eyes rolling before she continued to fight ned on who was really the strongest avenger. you were supposed to be working on a group project for your history class but somehow the topic of the avengers came up and the conversation derailed. ned was making a, somewhat, compelling case for the hulk but m.j. was clearly winning with her argument for wanda.
"nobody even knows the full extent of her powers... and the hulk? what? he's gonna smash some more?"
you sat quietly, chin in the palm of your hand, listening in and out of the conversation. you didn't really feel much like contributing. you would occasionally chime in to support m.j. but mostly you just heard the noise of their bickering and let it happen.
you didn't want to be that person, but your mind was (much to your frustration) completely consumed with thoughts of peter. and at the worst time, you had so many tests coming up, and essay deadlines were also creeping up on you. usually you were on top of this stuff, but your mind was preoccupied almost all the time.
because of peter, who was no where to be seen. in the past few weeks he had stopped showing up to school all together. ned said it was something to do with tony stark but you had a feeling it was more than that. you didn't know how to explain it.
you hadn't spoken to him in a long time now, and you didn't exactly leave things on good terms. it was the longest you'd gone without talking since peter called you a poopy head in the third grade.
you just couldn't shake the feeling that something was wrong. especially since you had no idea what he was getting up to, peter was known to get himself into some messes when he was left to his own devices. and you just knew ned was lying to cover for his best friend but that only made you feel even more out of the loop.
everything felt a bit off without peter around, like something was missing. that, on top of the guilt and worry you were feeling, was turning your head to mush. last time you'd spoken to peter, he was erratic and wounded and desperate. something bad had to have happened for him to be gone this long.
the bell rang, signalling the end of your last period for the day, and the rest of the week seeing as it was a friday. you snapped out of your daze, jolting as your eyes focused back on your surroundings.
"what time did you say again, y/n?" your eyes drifted to m.j. who was collecting her notes on her desk, her eyes meetings yours, waiting for your answer. a crease formed between your eyebrows, you hadn't heard a word of the conversation before right now. m.j. seemed to realise this, rolling her eyes at you with a playful smile. you did this a lot lately, she was getting used to it. "homecoming? what time did you want to meet tonight?"
"oh," you nodded, still sitting at your desk as your classmates hustled around you. "right, homecoming— i— uh—"
"tell me you're still coming," ned interrupted, his eyes wide suddenly, clearly desperate that your answer was anything but no. "c'mon we've had this planned for ages!"
"no— yeah— of course i am," you nodded quickly to reassure him. "yeah— sorry— i just spaced. is seven good for you guys?"
they hummed in response, nodding.
you packed up your books, shoving them into your bag, still in a slight haze with all these thoughts running through your head about peter. you couldn't think about homecoming, it seemed trivial now compared to the worst case scenarios running through your mind. maybe you could try to call peter again? you thought to yourself as you quickly left the classroom, forgetting about m.j. and ned and homecoming, your muscle memory alone leading you to your locker.
you swapped out your books from your bag with the ones you needed to study from for your biology test next week. after slamming the locker door shut, a familiar face was met with yours.
"jesus," you muttered as he stood inches away from your face, your heart racing from the shock. clutching your books to your chest, after nearly having a heart attack, you let out a loud sigh and furrowed your eyebrows. "peter? where the hell have you been?" you regained some of your composure, enough to find some anger in you towards him. he was the last person you were expecting to see today.
"you're ok?" his usual soft brown eyes looked sunken and tired, his hair was scruffier than usual and his lips chapped as they hung open, his eyes scanning over you.
your mouth hung open to speak but he just shook his head as if answering his own question. he gripped your forearm, urging you to walk with him. you dug in your heels, yanking your arm back, wanting him to slow down and explain before you went anywhere with him. "will you just walk," he muttered sharply when you tried to resist him. "please," he softened quickly, his eyes meeting yours.
you frowned, uncomfortably shifting the stack of books in your arms as peter pulled you along behind him hastily. you watched his eyes shifting about the hallway as students weaved around the two of you, his grip not loosening for a second. he was definitely up to something stupid and dangerous that he absolutely should not be involved in.
he'd dragged you all the way out into the parking lot, pulling you aside and away from the crowd of people.
"what's going on? why do you look like— i mean no offence but— you look like crap," you couldn't help but show some level of concern. no matter how complicated your feelings were for him at the moment, he was still your best friend, and he looked like hell. you couldn't stop yourself from staring at him.
"i need you to just— stop talking and listen to me," the look in his eyes made your heart beat a bit faster, your eyes darting between his trying to understand his urgency. "you're not safe—"
"no— i'm fine—" you were never very good at doing what you were told. you glanced down at yourself, perfectly safe and standing in front of him. "see?—"
"no— no you're not," he gulped, his eyes darting away from yours for a split second. "i'm taking you home and you have to stay there. ok? please."
his voice was horse, cracking when he spoke. you didn't understand any of it. peter was the friendly neighbourhood spider-man, what the hell had he gotten himself into that had him this worked up?
you tilted your head slightly, he couldn't think you'd blindly do whatever he said. you needed some answers. "pete," you mumbled, shaking your head with a faint frown. "can't you just tell me what's going on? you're kinda' scaring me."
"i screwed up," his face contorted, his eyes screwing shut for a second and his nose scrunching. you were glued to him, following his mixed expressions trying to understand what was going through his head. he took a deep, shaky breath, running a hand through his hair. "and i know you— you hate me and the last thing you wanna' do is listen to me but i need you to do this for me."
"alright," you said after a moments hesitation. you just wanted him to relax. all your pent up anger and hurt that you'd felt over peter had dissipated quite quickly. you were too occupied with trying to ease some of his stress, and if that meant becoming a homebody for a few days, you would do it. "alright— don't worry. i've been putting off my english essay for a week now anyway, it's about time i cracked down on it."
you tried to ease the tension, act like he wasn't asking much of you. he let out a heavy sigh, looking over at you with those brown eyes. "it's homecoming tonight, i know w—"
"is it?" you feigned forgetfulness, not wanting to make him feel any worse than he already did. you shrugged. "i was never one for socialising anyway."
peter knew you better than that. he knew what he was asking you to give up. "i'm sorry," he took a step closer to you, his hands hovering in front of you, unsure that you wanted him to touch you. "i'm sorry you got dragged into this."
your eyes lingered on his hands before you pulled back up to his stare. you pursed your lips and shrugged. "i'd feel better about it if i knew what i was getting dragged into," you pulled away from your conversation for a second to slip your books into your bag. "walk me home and you can explain everything."
and he did. he told you all about the vulture, the weapons, what really happened during the decathlon trip. all of it. right up to when the vulture figured out his identity— which lead to him finding out about aunt may, about his friends, and about you. he told you about how he'd spent the past few weeks figuring out where the vulture's next major deal was being held, how he'd messed up so bad and how mr stark had taken his suit.
by the time he'd finished, your mouth hung open slightly. you didn't know how he'd been dealing with all of this by himself. spider-man helped old ladies cross the street and returned stolen bicycles, he didn't fight men in bird costumes to stop illegal sales of dangerous advanced weapon tech.
"peter, this sounds pretty dangerous," you spoke up after he told you about his plan to intercept the vulture's airplane heist. "don't you think you should just call happy? or tony? this sounds like iron man territory."
"i can't do that," he sighed. "besides, i already tried happy— he's not taking my calls right now. something about a time out."
you let out a heavy sigh, having taken everything in that he'd told you. you had reached your door, peter standing behind you with his hands stuffed in his pockets. you motioned for him to come in but he hesitated, opening his mouth to decline. "c'mon," you grabbed his arm and tugged gently. "this heist isn't happening 'til late tonight. you can keep me company 'til then."
"maybe, get some rest, too, you really do look like hell," he let you pull him inside, following behind you. he ignored the second dig you had now made about his appearance.
"may must've been pretty mad when she found out you'd been skipping school?" you collapsed onto your bed, crossing your legs over and watching peter perch himself on the edge of your bed. he leaned forward, his hand running over his face with sheer exhaustion.
"you have no idea," he groaned, holding his head up with the palm of his hand now. "i'm pretty much grounded for the rest of the year. and i have to send her a pic' of me sitting in every one of my classes from now on," you nodded, pursing your lips because that sounded about right. "but mainly she was worried."
"well, she wasn't the only one," he glanced at you over his shoulder, his eyes lingering there for a while. you breathed through your nose, looking away from him and down to your hands to give yourself a moment. you'd forgotten how difficult it was to have him look at you like that. "you just took off with no word, peter."
he turned his gaze away from you, focusing on the wall in front of him, his eyes glossy. for weeks that last conversation with you had been sitting at the back of his mind. he knew he'd handled everything in the worse possible way. he tried to protect you, hurt you by doing so, and then had everything he tried to protect you from blow up in his face anyway.
"i haven't been able to think clearly for weeks," you gulped, scared to meet his gaze again, in fear that you might lose your confidence. "i missed you. and i was worried out of my mind about you."
"y/n—" his voice was quiet.
"and i know i was the one who told you to leave. but i was hurt and sad. i'd convinced myself that you felt the same way, and when you—" you closed your eyes for a second, feeling him watching you. you hadn't been able to say any of this out loud for weeks and now it was just spilling out of you. "anyway— i shouldn't've punished you for that. they are my feelings i need to get over. it wasn't your fault and i'm sorry i made it seem like it was."
he shook his head faintly, sniffling slightly, catching your attention. "i screwed up," he shook his head a little harder, pushing himself up off your bed, his back turned to you. "i screwed up so bad," he ran his hand over his face, his thumb and forefinger pinching the bridge of his nose. your eyebrows knitted. "it wasn't supposed to turn out like this."
"don't," you shook your head, willing him to stop. "it's not your fault. i shouldn't have—"
he cut you off, turning to face you as he did. "i'm in love with you," his mouth hung open slightly, his eyes now stinging red. "i was in love with you then, and i'm in love with you now. i think i always will be."
your eyebrows unknitted, your mouth opening to speak but nothing came out. you watched his hand tug on the ends of his curls, his eyes locked onto you the entire time, trying to read your expression.
"i was trying to protect you and it went completely wrong—" his breathing was erratic. "i thought you'd be safer if i distanced myself—" the look on his face was breaking your heart. he knew how stupid it all sounded now he explained it out loud. "i screwed everything up— and now you're in more danger than ever— because of me."
"you— you—" your brain was trying to keep up. you shook your head. you had spent the past month telling yourself that everything you thought he'd felt for you wasn't real, that you'd over thought everything he'd ever done for you. you'd been telling yourself for a month to move on. "you didn't screw up, pete. i know you. whatever you did, you did for the right reasons."
the lump in your throat was growing as you tried to keep some kind of composure. it wouldn't do either of you any good to get upset with him when he was worked up like this. he didn't need to be told he'd made a mistake, he was already painfully aware.
"you don't— you—but— i—" he was hyperventilating, completely vulnerable as he fell apart in front of you.
"pete," you mumbled carefully, climbing over to where he was stood, hand in his hair and he pulled on the loose curls, his eyes wide with anxiety and stress. you moved your hands to his, pulling them down to his side and giving them a small squeeze. "calm down," you cooed. "everything will be ok."
you trailed your hands up to his shoulders, giving them a soft squeeze before pulling him into a tight hug. you wrapped your arms 'round his shoulders, one hand moving to the back of his head, running your fingers through his hair. his head ducked, burying into your neck, his arms wrapping around your waist in a desperate grip. his breathing was heavy at first, uneven and jagged as he clung onto you. your heart was beating out of your chest, you were sure he could hear it, but you held onto him as tight as you could, pressing your whole body against his trying to offer him as much comfort as you could.
after a while of standing around, holding each other, peter's breathing began to grow softer and slower. he began to notice the sweet scent lingering on your skin. his lips innocently hovering over the curve of your neck, breath fanning against your skin. you could feel goosebumps growing on your skin, the hair of your arms standing on end.
"better?" you mumbled softly. he gave you a faint nod in response, his lips leaving your skin as he pulled himself back from you. your hand slipped from in between his curls and down to the neck, your thumb brushing over his skin as he looked straight into your eyes. you gulped, eyelids fluttering.
he was a state to behold. his nose was pink, under eyes wet, your eyes trailed down to where his lips parted. he hiccuped a breath. you tried to push away the impulse to kiss him because he was clearly vulnerable. you didn't want him to later regret anything. "thanks," he mumbled breathlessly. "i don't know what happened there."
you pouted your lips, about to reply when peters eyes fluttered down your face, catching you off guard. his eyes lingered and you noticed his head tilting down and nearer, his lips catching onto yours before you could register what was happening. it was soft, gentle and didn't last longer than a couple seconds before you had to force yourself to pull away.
"peter— you're overwhelmed right now so maybe we shouldn—"
your whispers against his lips where cut short, he pressed his lips to yours again. unable to resist now he'd had a taste. his arms tightened around your waist, pulling you back flush against his chest. you swallowed a gasp, feeling his full weight behind the second kiss. his lips pushed against yours a little more desperately this time, you fell back a step, peter's arms where the only thing keeping you upright at this point.
both your hands where either side of his neck, trailing up into his hair where you pulled softly at the roots of his messy curls. he let out a soft moan against your lips, and you stumbled back once more, your thighs hitting your bed.
your hands quickly slipped down to his chest as you gently pried him off you. your head was spinning a little, his lips were plump and pink and the way he looked at you, with pure love and obsession, made you want to kiss him again and again.
"did you mean it?" you muttered breathlessly.
his eyes trailed back up from your lips, his gaze locking with yours again. he noticed the vulnerability and fear in your eyes now that he was paying you his full attention. he felt a wave of guilt hit him, knowing he was the one that put that look there.
"yeah," he hummed. "i did," he said with his chest. "i do. always will," he was breathless.
"you're not just saying it 'cause you've missed me?"
he shook his head quickly, shutting down any traces of doubt in your mind. "i have been in love with you since that summer we took that trip to coney island when you threw up after you ate too much cotton candy."
your scrunched up your nose at the memory. "gross."
he shrugged. "i don't know what to tell you. that's just when i knew."
your lips twitched into a small smile. "you should probably get some rest," you diverted the topic, trying hard not to kiss him again. he looked so tired. he had poured out months worth of anxiety and stress all in the past ten minutes. "you can't chase bad guys if you're half asleep."
he wore a half-hearted smile, his mind clearly flickering back to the task he had to take on later tonight.
"you can crash here if you want," you motioned to your bed.
"y'sure? i don't wanna get you in trouble."
"mom's working late, so you're good. plus she loves you, pete," your hands slipped down to his, giving them a quick squeeze of reassurance.
"sure she'll still love me when she finds out about us?" he quirked an eyebrow, the small smile on his lips was sloped and tired.
"m'sure," you hummed, biting back your growing smile at the word us. you moved him to sit on your bed again, his hands lazily holding yours. his eyelids fluttered as he looked up at you, a small crease forming between his eyebrows again. you could tell his mind was wandering again. "lie down, you need to rest or you're no good to anyone."
he nodded hesitantly and followed your instruction. "i'll sleep better with you next to me."
his voice was soft after you'd turned your back on him to leave him to rest. you rolled your eyes faintly, smile tugging your lips again. "is that right?"
he hummed, his arms outstretched, waiting for you to fall into them. you dragged your feet back over to him, biting the inside of your cheek, the corner of your lip twitching upwards. "there's a scientific reason behind it but my brain's too sleepy to think right now, so you'll have to take my word for it."
his words slurred together, his eyes rolling slightly the longer he forced them open. you just nodded. "alright, spidey, just this once."
"hm," he hummed as you climbed in next to him, his arms wrapping around you and immediately pulling you against his chest. "thanks," he muttered, his lips pressed against the top of your head. "don't know what i'd do without you."
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writingtheafterglow · 3 years
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Spider Like Me
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Pairing: Peter Parker x Reader
Warning: fluff, slight angst, fighting, making out (kinda, not really, but still)
Summary: Spiderwoman (Y/N) has a huge crush on her partner Spiderman (Peter). Peter has a crush on the most popular girl in school Y/N Drew. Neither of them know the others identity.
A/N: Sup Shawty. This is definitely inspired by Miraculous Ladybug. This is also inspired by Women Like Me by Little Mix. This is pretty fluffy but there is some angst so yeah. Enjoy!
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Y/N Drew was always honest. She always tended to say what she was feeling. She was also pretty complicated. She always had to have her coffee with two sugars and had to have fun in her purse at all time. Being Tony Stark's niece she had people serving and waiting on her, but she didn't let that make her a spoiled brat like some girls with rich relatives. She was pretty popular in her school, Midtown School of Science and Technology, mainly because she was related to the Tony Stark. Another perk of having Tony Stark as your Uncle is you get to work with him. Well I don't know if you can consider what she does a job, but it sure feels like it. She has a pretty big secret. She is the friendly neighborhood Spiderwoman. Tony is the one who gave her the suit, missions, and other Superhero duties. Her life was pretty crazy.
Peter Parker is such a cute but akward kid. He only has one close friend, Ned. Him and Ned love Star Wars and Legos. They are always building new things out of Legos. But lately Peter hasn't had the time for that stuff because of his Stark Internship. What's really going on during his "Stark Internship" is actually way cooler than sorting papers and getting Me. Stark's coffee. Peter is actually the friendly neighborhood Spiderman. Tony gave him his suit and Introduced him to his partner Spiderwoman. They have never seen each others try identities because Tony didn't want any trouble outside of saving queens, just in case we didn't get along. In reality Spiderman and Spiderwoman got along perfect. In fact Spiderwoman started developing feelings for Spiderman but she can't tell him. Peter however has a crush on the most popular girl in school, Y/N Drew. He thinks she is perfect. He loves how her Y/H/C hair frames her face perfectly and how her beautiful Y/S/C glows naturally, she doesn't even wear much makeup. She is his dream girl.
It's now P.E time at Midtown. The students had just finished watching a video by Captain America. They were told to split into pairs and do sit ups. Y/N and some of her friends finished early so they decided to sit and talk in the bleachers. Peter was partnered with Ned still doing his sit ups. Ned was trying to convince him to ask Y/N out but Peter wouldn't do it.
"Come on Peter I'm sure she likes you" Ned claimed
"No Ned she won't"
You were still on the bleachers with your friends playing f, marry, kill.
"I'd f Thor, marry Iron Man, and kill Hulk. What about you Liz" Betty asks looking at your dark haired friends.
"Same but what about Spiderman?" She asks.
"Oh Spiderman..... he's cool I guess..." You say while your friends stare at you.
"Oh my gosh you totally like him" Betty squeals out. You cover your face and giggle.
"Maybe but he probably doesn't like me"
Peter and Ned overhear your conversation and just sit there in shock.
"Dude they're talking about you" Ned explains. Peter just sits there frozen. He couldn't believe it. You. Y/N Drew. Has a crush on Him, Peter Parker.
As you continue talking Ned gets an idea.
"Peter knows Spiderman!" Ned yells drawing the attention of the whole class including Y/N and her friends.
"Uh no, no I don't" Peter says getting up from the mat and walking towards you.
"They're friends" Ned says
"Yeah just like coach Wilson and captain America are friends" flash days jumping down from a rope.
"yeah I've met him a couple times......through the Stark Internship.......yeah well I'm not really supposed to talk about it" Peter says that last part turning around and glaring at Ned.
"Yeah well maybe you should invite him to Liz's party right?" Flash days motioning towards Liz.
"Yeah Peter you should Y/N would like that" Liz says laughing. You smack her lightly on the arm.
"Chill out guys give him a break......it's fine Peter you don't have to. I've already met him a few times because of my Uncle anyways so I'm good" you explain smiling at Peter. It was true you have met Spiderman before. Technically you ran into him on the way upstairs to see your Uncle but you still met him.
"Oh come on he'll be there right Parker" flash says as the bell rings.
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"Dude do you have the suit" Ned asks Peter as they walk towards the entrance of Liz's house.
Peter rolls up his sleeve a little to show his red and blue suit underneath.
"This is gonna change our lives" Ned says as they enter the house.
Once they get in they see colored lights and hear loud music. Peter looks over to see flash working as the Dj. They see red cups and paper plates everywhere.
"Hey guys, cool hat Ned" says Y/N walking towards them with a red cup in her hand.
"Hey Y/N" Peter says in a shaky voice.
"Cool party right. Liz throws the best parties" you say taking a sip from your drink.
"Yeah she....she does" Peter says smiling at you.
"P3N!S PARKER WHAT IS UP!" Flash says into the microphone.
"Where's your friend Spiderman. Probably in Canada with your imaginary girlfriend. That's not Spiderman, that's just Ned in a red shirt." Just as he stops talking you storm over to the Dj booth. You snatch the microphone from flash and glare at him.
"Leave him alone, your just jealous that he might have actually met Spiderman" you say shoving flash backwards.
"Whatever" he says grabbing the mic an placing it back on the booth.
Just as you were about to check on Peter, you turn around to see him gone. You were gonna look for him but then you see a weird light glowing in the distance, out of the window. You then run upstairs, pit your suit on, and swing towards the light. Once you get there you see Spiderman sitting on a wall.
"Sup Spidey" you say standing next to him
"Hey ghousty" Spiderman says. Ghosty is your nickname from him, one because your suit is white, two because some people call you Ghost Spider, but your official superhero name is Spiderwoman.
"So what's going on down there" you ask resting your arm in his shoulder as you both squat down.
"Don't know they're using a weird looking weapon" he says still looking at the bad guys.
"That doesn't look like something from earth" you say this because you've learned things from Tony. One being what alien weapons and machinery look like. That blaster they were using looked farmiliar but you couldn't put your finger on it.
"We need to stop them" Peter says. You nod and jump down at the same time he does.
"Sup fellas watcha doing?" You ask causing them to turn around.
Just then one of the men pull out a gun, but Spidey shoots a web and grabs it. You then run up and start to fight them. You got one on the ground and the other two are fighting Spidey. You jump on one of the men's shoulders and backflip off causing him to fall to the ground. Spidey got the other man on the ground. You guys then walk towards the van to see what they have. They have all sorts of weapons. Some look weirdly farmiliar to you.
"Let's take these somewhere safe" Spidey says. You nod and get into the front of the van. You guys drive off and take them to Stark Tower. Once you drop the weapons off you swing to a nearby building.
Once you get there you sit on the edge and sigh.
"What's the matter ghosty?" Spidey asks plopping down next to you.
"Nothing it's just.....I like this guy"
"Really well who's the lucky fella?" He asks scooting closer to you.
"I don't think I can tell you" you say scooting away from him.
"How about I tell you who I like first" he says causing your head to shoot up towards him.
"O-ok" you say.
"Ok so she goes to my school, she's pretty popular actually, I just wish she felt the same way." He says looking down at his hands.
"Well that's nice....can I know her name?" You ask
"Ok....Y/N Drew" he says whispering the name but you still heard it.
The eyes on your mask go wide and you suck in a breath. He likes you? All of the sudden you feel more nervous than when he asked the question.
"Oh" you say looking down at the city below you.
"Now you tell me who you like" he says voice a little shaky. You can tell he's shy, but he is still so sweet.
"Well now I can't tell you" you say getting up
"Wait, what, why?" He says getting up with you.
"Well....." You start to rock back and forth on your heels.
"Come on tell me please" he is so cute you can't say no to him.
"......you......" You whisper
"Huh?" He says
"YOU! There you happy now?" You say. You have no clue why you didn't want to tell him. He literally just told you he liked you, kinda.
"Oh...."
"Wait why am I so scared to tell you. I'm literally her?" You say. That was meant to just be in your head but it accidentally came out.
"Wait hold up what" oops he heard. You figured your in too deep now, screw it.
"Ugh.....Uncle Tony is gonna kill me" you say pulling your hood down.
"Uncle To-" just as he was about to ask you take your mask off. The eyes on his suit go wide. You stand there nervous.
"Y/N?" He ask in shock.
"Yeah..." He then walk towards you. He pulls his mask up just above his nose. You place your gloves hand on his cheek. You run your thumb over his lips. You were trying to recognize him but you couldn't.
You were gonna pull his mask up but he pulls you into a kiss. It is passionate and you can feel the spark. His hands rest on your waist and yours are on his neck. He pulls away and takes the rest of his mask off.
"PETER?" You say in shock.
"Yeah" he says smiling shyly
"Your Spiderman?" You ask again. Duh he was Spiderman.
"Yeah.....sorry for kissing you I should have-" you cut him off by smashing your lips into his once again. You pull away to look into his eyes.
"I like you" you say smiling.
"I like you too" he says rubbing circles on your waist with his thumb.
"What does this make us?" You ask
"Do you want to be my girlfriend?" He asks
"I don't know" you say
"Wait, why?" He ask. He is adorable
"I was just messing with you silly of course I want to be your girlfriend" you say. He calms down and pulls you into a hug.
You guys spend the rest of the night on the roof of a random building talking, holding hands, and stealing a few kisses. It still shocks you how could he fall for a girl- no a spider like you?
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kaypeace21 · 4 years
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What's in a name? (Analysing all the names in stranger things)
*I'll be repeating some names more than once as I break down categories .
Show , book, and tv easterggs
Alot of character names may have deeper meaning but some are also refs to stories they liked. The stranger writers twitter posted a list of movies said to inspire s4 (which I’ll be referencing).
Dart- dustin names him this after d'artagenean (a 3 musketeers book character) and one of Dustin's fav candies (3 muskateers). Similarly his pet turtle yurtle is implied to be named after the dr Seuss’ story 'yertle the turtle'.
Brenner- main character from 'the birds', which was on the st s4 list.
Byers- john byers from x files. The duffers mentioned x files was an inspo for the show. Although John byers (from x files) resembles Murray as an unhinged conspiracy theorist. The documentary paradise lost was also cited as inspo for st- john byers and his son, terry, Michael, and Steve were names in said film
Jim Hopper- in Predator (another st inspo) he was a soldier who was flayed to death in the woods. Another character in the film with a similar fate was “Hawkins”.
Detective Wheeler and elle Holloway- from silent Hill franchise. Another ref mentioned by the Duffers. Holloway was the surname of st's Heather. Elle (is el) and Wheeler is Mike's surname. Wheeler was also on the ep of twiglight zone (another cited ref by the duffers) . In the ep 'mute' sheriff wheeler takes in a mute psychic girl as his foster daughter. So some hints at hopper too . Hopper even mentions el-anor (gilipse) in s1. The surname of a main character in the silent hill series.Lt. Colonel Sullivan (s4) could be a eastergg of silent hill 4 which had a Sullivan character.
Henderson- st twitter mentioned how all the bond films were on the s4 inspiration list . So Dustin's surname being the same as one of the bond characters is a nod. Duffers also mentioned ‘freaks & geeks’ as inspo- and 1 character’s surname was also Henderson (another nod).
Mrs Driscoll (from s3) - a nod to invasion of the body snatchers which was mentioned as inspo by the Duffers. And clear inspo for s3.
Powell (cop and partner of hopper ) - diehard films also on s4 list. He's named after the cop powell.
Callahan (cop and partner of Hopper) - father Callahan ref. He shows up in many of Stephen King novels. The Duffers have cited over 10 novels and books from him as inspo for st
Nancy- she's called ‘Nancy drew’ (from the novels). And the duffers have mentioned they are fans of elmstreet - who's main character was Nancy. Nancy also references 'Oliver twist" ,and that book has a character named Nancy in it. Nancy was also a first Lady in the 80s similar to her friend Barbara- who was also a first Lady in the 80s.Nancy's name might also be inspired by "Nancy Wheeler", a secondary character in the 1970 book Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret written by Judy Blume.
Fred (s4)- apparently a high-school journalist who may be friend or foe. This one is a stretch but given nancy maybe being an elmstreet ref- and her enemy being fred-die kreuger. Fred may have animosity to Nancy and that's why his name is Fred. I mean ... they even cast a new s4 character with Freddie kreuger's original actor.so...
Jason (s4) - is in the 1986 Nancy drew novel (when s4 takes place). He is similar to the duffers description. In the novel he's a rich, popular, arrogant jock and blackmailing students at the high-school . S3 even named one of its episodes after a nancy drew novel- so wouldn't surprise me.
Christie carpenter (s4/reffed in s1 by hopper)- christie is the main character in the hellraiser series (which is on the s4 st list). Carpenter is the surname of the director of 'the thing' name dropped in s3. (The flesh monster in s3 also resembles the thing) , and in s1 mr clarke watches it ,and mike has the thing movie poster in his basement.
Argyle (s4) - die hard 1-2 were on the s4 st list. And is a name of a diehard character.
Max- her name is 'mad max' like the 80s film. But since the Duffers like videogames. Her name may be a ref to max caufield from the ‘life is strange’ game as well. She has a 'never Maxine rule' similar to max in st. But the game character is similar to jonathan as she is a teen photographer and says similar words to jonathan in s1 saying she would rather watch people through a camera than interact with them.
Eddie munson (s4)- not going to lie. I have no proof of this but I immediately thought of the TV character Eddie Munster (the friendly monster ).
Possible comic book easteggs
The duffers are no stranger to comic book references. The duffers have already directly reffed xmen, wonderwoman, and green lantern. Kali's place also has a comic book ref to 'the invisibles' on the wall. While the s4 movie list mentions thor ragnock , age of ultron, and 2 batman films. Some of these refs will go over your head if you haven't read my DID theory. But a lot of this analysis will still be enjoyable. :)
Jane st ives (jane ives aka el). marvel. (jane st ives sees her dad k*ll her mom and vows revenge against him.Sort of similar to what brenner did to terry).
Stephanie harrington (Steve harrington)- 80s marvel comic. DP.7. Will DID ref. Antibody, is a medical resident who can project from his body a dark figure of himself (also called an "antibody", a word play on the medical term) that flies, can become intangible, and transfer its memories to another person by physical contact (mindflayer).  He later merges with the antibody. like how susie refs ‘wizard of earthsea’ -the novel where the young wizard Ged releases a shadow monster (said to be an ancient evil) but it turns out to be the dark aspects of his personality and the only way for the chaos to stop is to accept his darkness and merge as 1.
Barry bauman (Murray bauman) . marvel comics - Will did easteregg.Bauman lived in never ending darkness. He felt, that there was a realm outside the darkness and started to explore the entire content of his brain thus using now more than the usual 10 % .Also had telekinesis.He turned his attention to the stars in order to exact revenge on the human race which spends billions of dollars to kill each other, but wouldn't spend the mere million or so it would have cost to cure him. For his vengeance he transported the suns near our galaxy into his omnipotent brain. As the people of Earth would learn of the disappearing of the suns they would panic and feel Bauman's loneliness before he would destroy Earth.Despite the death of his physical body, Bauman's consciousness somehow survived and began hopping from body to body throughout the galaxy, his powers growing until the Star Thief was recognized as a major threat to galactic society.
Sinclair- last name of xmen rhaine.  Will Did ref. storyline Rahne Sinclair is mentally bonded to Havok against her will(Will/mf).She is subsequently manipulated by the Shadow King. Her bond with Havok causes her to act irrationally, sometimes threatening teammates, sometimes by flirting with them.  She undergoes more than one attempt to undo the bonding, with varying results. Her instability also manifests in many odd dreams, in which her identity is merged into pop culture figures. What’s funny is charlie heaton (jonathan byers) was just in an xmen movie with this Rhaine character.
Victor creel (s4)-sounds like mutant victor creed of the xmen comic. x men Mutant with ab*sive dad and poor socioeconomic background. He had a "birthday tradition" of ab*sing his young relatives on their birthdays. Which reminds me of Lonnie making jonathan cry for a week (because he forced him to k*ll a rabbit on his b-day). Not to mention Lonnie is prob coming back for Will’s b day in s4... so... the name is prob a ref to that ‘birthday tradition’. Could also be a stephen king reference -since Duffers love him. The Creel family was in sk’s book “pet cemetary’-which fun fact (the actress who plays El’s aunt is in the recent remake)!
Yuri (s4)-Yuri Topolov (Russian: Юрий Тополов) was a Soviet scientist and the first foe of the Hulk. 
Dimitri (s4)-Dmitri Bukharin was born in Kuibyshev, Russia (some sources say Moscow).  First appeared in Iron man.
Peter ballard ( s4 character) may just be a hellfire ref . since I guy with last name ballard was a double agent for the hellfire club (name of st s4 ep 1). And ballard means bald which the actor is certainly not lol. I don't think he's literally associated with hellfire but its just a ref. And because its implied in his st character summary despite working for the mental hospital-where brenner is most likely at- he's horrified by the treatment of the psych patients. So that may be where the double agent aspect would come into play.
Ian Hargrove (billy hargrove)- batman comics. had a history of mental health problems dating back to childhood, which his parents were unable to afford treatment for. His brother John hargrove tried to keep him out of trouble but Ian developed an uncanny talent for explosives (will the wise fire powers). He ends up at Archam asylum. Cough billy is Will's alter. Why he has the name billy (a nickname for William) . Jonathan in s2 mentions how he likes the writer vonnegut- who wrote slaughter house 5- the main character was Billy. Already mentioned how it connects to my did theory .
Jason carver (s4)- carver is the last name of the comic hero thunderbolt (in the flash)-the first name of thunderbolt is Will and his brother is named Lonnie. There was also a John carver in the comic.
Holland (barb's last name) last name of Swamp thing. I think its plot has quite a few s4/5 spoilers but Im not diving into it right now.
Names associated with religions or mythology 
(if you’ve read my DID theory- some themes will appear relevant in relation  WIll’s alters or to WIll’s past/tr*uma).
-‘Kali prasad".Kali  is the name of a Hindu goddess . Kali’s iconography and mythology commonly associate her with death,  violence, s*xuality, but also paradoxically -motherly love. In myths ‘she only k*lls demons’ and is described as  ‘overflowing with incomprehensible love for her children’ - (aka ST’s Kali k*lling people from hawkins lab for hurting kids). Her third eye stands for wisdom (like Will the wise).Kali is called at times ‘ the bright fire of truth’ (will the wise/fire powers).The devotee makes her image in his heart and under her influence burns away all limitations and ignorance in the cremation fires. This inner cremation fire in the heart is the gyanagni (fire of knowledge), which kali bestows (cough Will the wise-fire powers). The goddess also could create a darkcloud of lightning (similar to the mf). The phrase “brilliant as a dark cloud” is a snippet of one such prayer dedicated to Kali.The name Kali is derived from the Hindu word that means “time”. Kali receives her name because she devours ‘kala’ (Time)- like clocks ticking when El sees demogorgan/clock being wonky when Will see mf/clocks in s4 promos.’ After devouring time she resumes her own dark formlessness. “This transformative effect can be metaphorically illustrated in the West as a black hole in space” (cough mf cough hopper blackhole/time refs). Kali’s s2 butterfly-“Kali is the Hindu goddess associated with eternal energy. ... The cocoon, butterfly and the karmic golden wheel reflect Her deep connection with life.��And Prasād (her last name) is a material substance that is a religious offering to gods in  Hinduism .
-While, EL is the name of a Cannanite (male) god associated with “salt water “ (pool filled with salt in s1) who “dwelled in a tent” (in s1 Mike’s blanket fort) .And his gray-beard was described as " "full of wisdom.” él’  in Spanish means ‘he’- which could be a nod at her ( androgynous) presentation in s1. El can also be translated to "God" or 'god'. The el character has various mythologies depending on which culture/ religion is using the term 'el'. In the post-biblical period, "el" became a regular element in the names of angels such as "Gabri·el," "Micha·el," and "Azri·el," to denote their status as divine beings.And Jane translates to " Yahweh (god) is gracious/merciful". The cannanite god El was also dubbed “Compassionate God of Mercy.”  Earlier, a ninth century B.C.E. inscription  identifies Ēl- the name of the Babylonian water god Ea, lord of the watery subterranean abyss (cough watery  dark void in st). Terry (el’s mom-aka Teressa) was originally used in the Middle Ages for a “child baptized in holy water” (El in the sensory water tank/Terry used it too,according to Becky in s1). Eleanor (called this in s1)- can mean "sun ray" (possible the opposite of the ‘shadow monster’ or Kali who can represent a “black hole”). 
-Will-the s4 st movie lists (‘red dragon’, gods of monsters, & ‘blade runner’ ) mention the artist and writer William Blake  (specifically his painting of the angel michael fighting a dragon in revelations - reffed in st s1). He was one of many painters part of the exhibition of “ The World Turned Upside Down: Apocalyptic Imagery.”The World Turned Upside Down explores the myriad ways that artists in England visualized the apocalypse in a period fraught with political, religious, economic, and cultural change. 
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During this period Blake was commissioned to create over a hundred paintings intended to illustrate books of the Bible along with revelations .  He also drew illustrations for the novel Dante’s inferno. Blake’s brutally satirizes oppressive authority in church and state.He said those who proclaim restrictive moral rules and oppressive laws as “goodness” are in themselves evil. Hence to counteract this repression, Blake announces that he is of the “Devil’s Party” (cough hellfire club ref-and dissing the satanic panic of the hellfire club and other marginilised groups) . He also says “men forgot that All deities reside in the human breast.” So Instead of looking for God on remote altars, Blake warns, man should look within.He produced a diverse and symbolically rich œuvre, which embraced the “imagination as “the body of God.” He wrote his own stories based on biblical writings- one includes the fire wielding character of Los (will the wise) who represented jesus. Los (like jesus does in revelations) causes the destruction of the world and the second judgment unfolds. The poem ends with Los’s unfallen state rising up and shepherding in science and removing the dark religions. I also talked about  how this story ‘book of los’ hints at the DID theory-but this is getting long-so you can just read the explanation here if interested. Also, hellooo Both names are William B(yers/lake). Billy (a alter of Will-sharing the name William) in s3 he even wore “lady of pillar” medallion- i.e about jesus/mary.
JOHN (supposedly Jesus’ blood relative- who wrote ‘revelations’.) In scripture John was called “the disciple whom Jesus loved as a brother” .Fire is the most typical element associated with the Saint John's Eve celebration (Jonathan did light the demogorgan on fire). Many scholars consider John & Jesus ("apocalyptic prophets"). Jonathan itself translates to " yahweh (god ) has given" in Hebrew.
Michael- Similar to kali, he’s a religious figure known for killing demons. He’s the arch-angel from the book of revelations (Apocalypse). A evil Beast (with seven heads usually translated to ‘satan’ or ‘dragon’) appears .“it was a 7″ causes Will to be attacked by the demogorgan ( which in d&d is a demon with multiple heads). The Archangel MICHAEL fought and defeated this 7 headed beast/satan. Corresponding with Mike at the end of s1 writing a fictional d&d story for Will (based off defeating the demogorgan) which was about helping kill a 7 HEADED MONSTER! Michael is also the archangel who oversees on Earth the natural element of fire (Mike telling Will the wise to use ‘fireball’ to defeat this same 7 headed monster in the game, at the end of s1)! Ironically though Jesus /Christian god is also associated with 7s a lot (he has 7 angels and during the apocalypse causes 7 plagues , he has 7 candles etc .)cause the number seven, represented ‘perfection’ according to ancient numerology . Will’s b day is March 22- (3) +2+2 =7 (“it was a 7”). Will’s bday even falls in what christians call “the holy week”( the week immediately preceding Easter.)  At the end of s1 they even defeat this 7 headed monster because Will rolls a 14 (which can be broken down into two 7s). Michael & William also have 7 letters in each of their names respectively- equating to this 14. This dragon biblical story (of Michael) is also William blake’s most popular painting. Also, random fact in revelations god has a rainbow throne (with thunder /lightning -will the wise powers- coming from the throne, and seven lit torches next to it ) . He also wears a rainbow halo. Lol. Michael also roughly translates to  ( 'Who like el?' The answer being roughly translated to ' no one like el' ... which i mean literally is saying there is no one similar to her. But I still think its a linguistic pun/ burn that Mike is not actually into El romantically).
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Jim (James) hopper- According to the s3 script Hopper’s real name is James. JAMES (JIM) was an apostle to jesus- brother of john. And in the bible was called a ’son of thunder ’. Will’s powers/ hopper being an alter of Will's so technically brother of jonathan and thunder powers. Not to mention David on Instagram saying hopper has " he has risen. like bread" is a Jesus ref to 'he has risen"... even the bread ref could be a catholic ref to the last supper.
  Martin Brenner/marsha holland-  have their first name reference the roman god Mars who was originally a ‘thunder or storm deity’ (will the wise/mf powers). EL (in cannanite mythology) also allowed Baal the storm god to rule the entire earth.
ROBIN- was the God of Thunder’s- Thor’s- favorite bird. And Dustin also means ‘Thor’s stone.’The red belly robin is also an important bird in Christianity. Legend has it that the robin got its red belly from a fire in which it was trying to protect Jesus. Robin also name drops the greek god prometheus- the god of fire (will the wise) who brought human beings life and knowledge. And Steve looks at Robin and says "let there be light" a biblical passage. The robin represents selflessness for a higher truth. 
Barb- Saint BARBara- dad kept her locked away from the outside world (like el/brenner) . He tried to k*ll her when he learned she didn’t believe in his religion- so the dad was punished by “god” who electrocuted him with lightning/lit him on fire. (Will the wise powers).
Nancy- is derived from a medieval diminutive of Annis, an English form of Agnes.  There’s the christian saint Agnes- who was beautiful and from a wealthy family. She was the Christian saint of girls and v*rginity . And the duffers subverted this along with the problematic horror movie trope of the ' v*rgin female heroine surviving while her more se*ually liberated female friends are punished by the villain' ( by having her survive specifically because she decided to have s*x).Agnes was also led out and bound to a stake, but (allegedly) the bundle of wood would not burn, or the flames parted away from her (will the wise fire powers). Also people claimed that any man who tried to r*pe her was struck blind.
Hopper's wife’s name -Dianne- is also the roman goddess of ,nature, hunting and wild animals( and greek equivalent to Artemis) .Becky  means ‘snare’ -for hunting animals .Teressa (Terry) means ' huntress'.  The name was originally used in the Middle Ages for a child baptized in holy water . Name of 2 saints-Teresa of Avila and Therese of Lisieux. Lonnie’s gf (Cynthia) was originally an epithet of the Greek goddess Artemis, as well.
Power couple Angela & jake (s4) - Angela means 'messenger of God". And Jake (also means ”supplanter”) is derived from jacob. Jacob was the son of Isaac and Rebecca in genesis. El’s aunt,Becky (Rebecca) is wife of isaac.Other theories claim that Jacob is in fact derived from a hypothetical name like יַעֲקֹבְאֵל (Ya'aqov'el) meaning "may God protect".The name jacob is also where the names James/jim is derived from.
couple Steve spies on in s3- Anna Jacobi & Mark Lewinsky. Anna ( name of the mother of the Virgin Mary) Jacobi ("he who supplants"-aka same meaning as jim since both names are derived from jacob). Mark (”the god mars”-same meaning as martin brenner) .Lewinsky (lion-same name meaning as Lonnie). Also derived from the Hebrew root לוי‎ (leví, “priest”)
Joyce means "lord". Could also be a ref to the ('unofficial') saint Joyce who gave up wealth to live in poverty.
Ted-is the short form of the names Theodore and Edward. Theodore is a Greek name meaning "gift of God", Edward has an English origin and means "wealthy guard." Eddie (from s4) also means ‘wealthy guard”
Holly (nancy and Mike's sis)- Holly meanings are 'One who is pious' or 'sacred'
Karen- can be short for Katherine-one of the first christian saints.”Saint Katherine of the Wheel “(er). A 4th century martyr who suffered t*rture on a spiked wheel.  Wheeler does mean ‘occupational name for a maker of wheels’ after all. 
Gospel of LUKE (lucas?) , or simply Luke, tells of the origins, birth, ministry, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ.
Sinclair- Catholic saint of computers and TV screens (i mean... he is in the av club).
MAXimilian was deemed a saint in the 1980s- saint of journalists and radios. (Both aspects of s3)
Saint stephen/steven ( STEVE)-an early disciple and deacon . Considered one of the first m*rtyrs of the church.Stephen is first mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles as one of seven deacons appointed by the Apostles to distribute food (lol icecream) .According to Orthodox belief, he was the eldest and is therefore called “archdeacon”.
Sara- Her name is a feminine form of sar (Hebrew: שַׂר‎), meaning “chieftain” or “prince."  She was the wife and sister of Abraham (ew -given her being an alter of Will though, such a name doesn’t surprise me). Similar to st Barabara’s dad - Abraham tried to k*ll his son isaac in the name of god. Becky (El's aunt) - is derived from Rebecca - wife of Isaac.
Claudia (Dustin's mom)- Christian woman of Rome greeted by Paul in his second letter to Timothy (in the bible).
Sam mayfield (max's dad) -  Short for Samuel or Samantha, from the Biblical name Shemu'el, which means "God has heard", from the Hebrew shama, meaning "heard" and el, meaning "God". Samuel is rumored to be argyle first name.
Marsha Kelly (s4)- Kelly means "frequents churches" or " bright headed". Given she's a counselor the bright headed pun makes sense. But maybe she's not to be trusted if she frequents churches during a satanic panic arc which was fueled by Christian religious extremism . Or she's someone who contrasts the rest of the religious people in town since she's not originally from hawkins...who knows. x files’ main character was catholic but in one ep she criticized a small town for the satanic panic occurring-and says how accusing these kids who listen to rock as satanic or being k*llers is ludicrous.
Peter ballard (s4) - Peter was also the name of an apostle. 
Tina (side character s2)- like christy (s4) it’s short for Christina which translates to "follower of christ" or 'stream'. Tina was the gal who hosted the t halloween party and also the name of one of Erica’s friends in s3.
Samantha (goth girl jonathan talks to in s2 party) translates to "told by god".
Tommy (s1-2) "God's gift" or "twin".Thomas is the Greek variation of the Aramaic name Ta’oma’. It came about because there were too many apostles named Judas; Jesus renamed one Thomas—meaning "twin"—to distinguish him from Judas Iscariot and the Judas also known as Thaddeus.
carol (tommy’s gf)- Carol is the short form of Caroline and the meaning is derived from the English vocabulary word for “song” or “hymn". A hymn being a religious song or poem.
Benny ( who helped El at his dinner) - originally derived from latin bennedictus which means "blessed"
Stacey (s2-3 ) rejected dustin at dance. Stacey- "resurrection "
Grigori (the guy following and tracking hopper, Joyce, and alexi)- The name was adopted by early Christians heedful of the Biblical passage located in 1 Peter 5:8, “Be sober-minded; be watchful."grigory now means 'watchful and vigalent'
Alexi- prob based on the russian folklore story of alexy. A clever priest's son who tricks a dragon.
Harrington- similar to Robin's religious animal iconography. Harrington means 'he goat'.The most popular image of the Satanic goat dates back to the ever-mysterious Knights of Templar, who were accused of worshipping an idol known as Baphomet (a 1/2 human 1/2 goat man). Roman Catholic society decried it as a demon that demanded human sacrifice — but it would take a few more centuries before the goat became a truly occult symbol.Anton Lavey adopted Baphomet as the sigil of the Church of Satan in 1966, and it has appeared on countless metal album covers. But, Baphomet isn't the lone source of inspiration for our goat-like depictions of Satan.it's also believed that early Christians, seeking to demonize preexisting Pagan traditions, drew comparisons between the Devil and the Greek god Pan (god of nature), who happened to resemble a goat.Some cited how in revelations- during the apocalypse- Jesus separates the 'lambs from the goats'. ( supposedly Good vs bad)
Given the fact s3 alluded to the satanic panic. A Christian movement in the 80s that demonized and said d&d ,rock music, homosexuality, other religions, stephen King,horror films, wearing black,and non conservative ideology were 'satanic.' I wouldn't be surprised by this possible ref. Heck even William Blake criticized similar religious movements in his own time period. Several movies from the s4 list allude to this. The most obvious being the documentary paradise lost (named after the fictional retelling of satan/adam and eve story) - the documentary directly focuses on a witch hunt of rock loving teens (wrongfully accused of m*rders) in a small town during the satanic panic. Not to mention ironically s4 is hinted to be around easter. So Using such symbolism to address religious fundamentalism and the bigotry/hysteria it can cause isn't surprising. No i’m not lumping all religious people into this negative category- obviously.
Other Names with similar definitions
*Hunting /forests woods, nature, animals
Hunters and people in forrests
name meaning : becky - snare (a trap for catching birds or animals). Teressa-huntress. Dianne/Cynthia (Hopper’s ex wife/Lonnie’s gf) - is a roman/greek goddess of hunting and wild animals.  Rhadaghast- Will's password for cb is a lothr wizard who protects forests/wildlife.martin/marsha- previously god of agriculture/plants.As an agricultural guardian, he was believed to directed his energies toward creating conditions that allow crops to grow, which may include warding off hostile forces of nature (pumpkins rotting in s2). El in phoenician culture was called Elus and its Greek equivalent Cronus (god of agriculture) steve- he goat- associated with pan- god of fields, groves, wooded glens . brenner- ‘someone who cleared forests by burning’. the blond women, Brenner worked with,  Fraizer-  “of the forrest men”
* FUN FACT: Kali’s name originally was going to be ‘Roman’ (which is derived from Romulus-the son of Mars... aka Martin Brenner) .
Trees
Ives and owens- ives means 'yew wood' while Owen means 'yew tree. ' bauman- nickname for someone who lived near a tree.comes from the German word "baum," or "boum" in Middle High and Old German, meaning "tree’. Jennifer hayes- Jennifer  derived from Old English words "jenefer", "genefer" and "jinifer", all of which were variants of Juniper used to describe the juniper tree.Lonnie means "oak tree; or lion". Lion plushie in cb and the lion el has along with the tree establishes a connection between all 3 maybe? Oak groves were especially sacred to  the goddess dianna too. Buckley (it has many different translations) - Old English "boch ley" (with boch meaning beech tree and ley meaning wood, glade or clearing).
Nature
buckley if translated from "bok lee," means meadow, or field. mayfield- open country (field) where madder (mæddre) grows. Holland- wood land, Bruce (who was also possessed) - means WILLow lands . Keith (s2-3) : woods or forrest.Hargrove- meadow filled with rabbits (Jonathan’s hunting story).Holloway is a topographic surname, which was given to a person who resided near a physical feature such as a hill, stream, or type of tree. Tina means 'river' . Burness (guy who claimed he jumped into quarry)-stream. Neil- cloud. Lowe (Bruce's last name)-This surname is derived from a geographical locality 'at the low,' i.e. the hill. Hayes means "hedged area'.
Flowers
Flo (hopper's secretary)- means flower. Suzie-  lily flower. Susan (Max’s mom)- means lily, lotus flower or rose. Karen (in Japanese can mean)- flower, lotus, or water lily. Heather is also a variety of small shrubs with pink or white flowers which commonly grow in rocky areas.  Erica is a type of "heather" plant. martin/marsha: in the legend of Mars,his mother become pregnant with him using a magic flower- which was given to her by the goddess flora.
Bright (aka intelligent)
Bob- nickname of Robert . Both Bob and Robert mean 'bright, shinning or fame'. Aka smart -he's called ' Bob the brain ' for a reason.
Robin- is also diminutive of Robert . And we all know robin is smart too. Being multilingual/ cracking the code.Robin (like Robert) also means 'bright, shining , or fame.'
Lucas- means "bright" or "shinning" aka he's also a smart cookie. His firework plan saving the day.
Lonnie and Larry (the mayor) can both be nicknames for Lawrence which also means ' bright one' or 'shinning one'. Well... both are cunning I'll give them that. Lonnie is unfortunately ...smart. I think this detail had other foreshadowing. Joyce to Will about Will the wise ' if he's so wise why does he need the fireballs? can't he just outsmart the bad guys? " Will: " yeah. Usually. BUT sometimes the bad guys are smart too." I never understood why on earth Joyce would be with someone as awful as Lonnie in the first place- than be with his literal opposite Bob- but maybe she just found intelligence attractive?
Names associated with thunder/lightning/fire (Like Will/mf/Will the wise)
Byers-reprsents Greek Zeus (god of thunder/lightning). Martin - references the roman god Mars who was originally a ‘thunder or storm deity’ .ROBIN- was the German God of Thunder’s- Thor’s- favorite bird. And Dustin also means ‘Thor’s stone.’Jim- “son of thunder”. Christian god- has throne (surrounded by thunder /lightning). Kali- could summon thunder storms.Nancy/Barb-both saints associated with fire. Kali-is called at times ‘ the bright fire of truth’ /and bestows the fire of knowledge. Robin also name drops the greek god prometheus- the god of fire. Mars -the keeper of Rome's perpetual flame . The Robin bird in a Christian story myth protects Jesus from hell's fire. William Blake- wrote about a fire wielding character of Los who represented jesus. Jesus during end times wields fire. Michael is the archangel who oversees on Earth the natural element of fire. Fire is the most typical element associated with the Saint John's Eve celebration (Saint John- called Jesus’s brother).
Animals (and their symbolism)
Byers- means ‘ cattle shed’.The Greeks considered the bull animal totem to be a symbol of Zeus (god of thunder and lighting - will the wise powers). He is the head of the gods and the almighty ruler of Olympus.  I”n hinduism, Shiva is known as Gorakhnath, means the lord of the cows.  And is also known as, Pasupathinath, the lord of all animals (similar to Rhadaghast). According to some scholars, Shiva’s association with cows and bulls might date back to the Indus Valley period. Cows have a special significance in Hinduism, as aspects of Mother Goddess and as symbols of selfless service. Mahatma Gandhi declared the protection of cows a central feature of Hinduism.Hindus worship cows as the Mother Goddess and symbol of motherhood, kindness and forbearance.”
Tigers: (Sarah’s plushie/ Hawkin’s macott/ Will & Mike have tiger posters in their rooms): The goddess Kali & God Shiva wore a tiger skin (this fact was actually mentioned by Kali in the prequel novel ‘suspicious minds’ ).”In many tribal traditions of India, the tiger (or lion) is worshipped as a god. In some Hindu hymns the domestic fires are compared to the tigers that guard the house.Tigers also figure prominently in many Indian folk-tales, Jataka-stories, and the Panchatantra.”
Lions:(Lonnie means ‘lion’ and el and Will have matching lion plushies)- In the Bible, the lion has two opposite meanings: it is compared to the Devil (1 Pet 5:8) and to Christ (Rev 5:5). Aka: Lonnie is the devil. The kids are the opposite. Nancy also compares the demogorgan to a lion. “In many tribal traditions of India, the lion is worshipped as a god.One of the ten incarnations of Vishnu is Narasimha, who has the head and shoulders of a lion, but the torso of a human.Goddess Durga, a fierce form of Parvathi or Shakti, has a golden lion as her vehicle, while Rahu, a planetary guard, rides upon a black lion as his vehicle.Lions form an important part of Hindu religious art. The face of the lion (simha-mukha) is used in images and sculpture in many Hindu temples to decorate the doors, walls, arches, and windows.The memorial pillar at Saranath  contains four beautifully carved standing lions at the top on a round abacus representing the imperial power. They now constitute the official emblem of the government of India.”
El almost k*lling a cat- “Some superstitious beliefs are also associated with cats in Hinduism. For example, killing a cat is considered a grave sin, for which one may have to offer prayers and give in charity at least seven golden images of the killed cat. “
Harrington- he goat. Buckley- has various translations. Anglo-Saxon: ‘bucc and leah’ meaning goat and wood respectively. And obviously there’s the robin-bird. And I've already discussed their symbolism. Goat= baphomet/pan. 
Robin- thor's fav bird/ helped Jesus from hell's fire.
Buckley- can also translate to " field filled with deer" (like the deer attacked by the demogrogan or the bambi film jon reffed in relation to the hunting story about lonnie).And Karen ( when from it’s Hebrew origins) can mean- antler or horn. Also the caananite God el was usually depicted with animal horns on his head.Diana in Roman art usually is accompanied by a hound (demo dog) or deer.  Because of the story of her turning an attempted r*pist-hunter into a deer/ and then causing dogs to attack him.  Deer is also one of the symbolic animals accepted since early Christianity as an allegory of Jesus Christ and the Christian Disciple. And when associated with Shiva (kali's husband) in Hindu iconography, the deer omen denotes sovereignty over nature and symbolizes the lord of all animals, humans, and the King of the Forest. In many visual and written illustrations, human beings and deer appear as close companions and in some cases, humans adopt the face or antlers of a deer, in images more common in stories of human strife. Deer also have a supernatural significance and appear as apparitions of divinity and in legends of spiritual awakening.
Hargrove- meadow filled with rabbits (like the rabbit lonnie made jonathan k*ll.) Hopper sounds like thumper the rabbit- which jonathan mentions in relation to bunnies . And ... idk... Hopper did make that pun in s3 about bunnies to Larry (lawerence) ? We also have rabbit refs elsewhere like with- el in Benny's. They play the song 'white rabbit' a song referencing Alice in wonderland and in el's room at Terry's house is the white rabbit from that story. Also paralleling to jonathan- el was almost made to k*ll a cat by her father (Cheshire cat aka Alice in wonderland ref + cats are associated with magic powers/witch craft).In Celtic folklore, the rabbit is seen as a supernatural being from the Otherworld.The rabbit symbolism in Christianity has found its way through the Germanic deity Eostre from which the name Easter came to be (s4 will most likely have the Easter holliday).One tale describes the rabbit as the pet of Jesus Christ. And rabbits were often inserted into art of jesus' mother .
Creel- basket or container of fish.fish is taken as symbolizing Christ’s faith, charity, and abundance. A biblical story goes how Christ fed his disciples with 2 fishes and called them “fishers of men.”  The Christians made an acrostic from the Greek word for fish, “ichthys” as early as the first century and it is, “Iesous Christos Theou Yios Soter”, meaning Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior.
Names hinting at character traits (which are very literal)
Mr clarke (science teacher)- clarke means 'scholar'
Dottie (in kali's gang)- she was in an insane asylum . And ‘Dotty’ is a very old British slang term  for 'crazy'
War (usually relates to ‘villains’)
Troy- means ' foot soldier'. Martin brenner: Martin means 'war like'. Lonnie is diminutive of Alonzo or Lawrence. Alonzo means 'ready for battle'.
In contrast to Lonnie, Will can mean "desiring peace. " Axel  who is part of Kali’s crew (who i think Will created along with others ) even means "father is peace."
Twin
Tom (Heather's dad) and Tommy mean ‘twin’. Robin's crush Tammy ('twin') Thompson ( 'son of tom’).
* Besides similar/identical name meanings.There’s also a lot of other repeated names that go into this whole twin/mirror imagery which i find strange... makes me wonder about @strangertheory ‘s version of the did theory. If not...maybe it’s just a allusion to the whole Will vs Will the wise arc (possibly) coming up?
Jennifer hayes (popular girl) & Jen (Mr clarke’s gf). Tina (highschool gal) & Tina- erica’s friend- Tina & christy are also nicknames of christina (s4 character). Susie (dustin’s gf) & susan (max’s mom). Sam (max’s dad) and Samantha (girl at party)/ samuel (possibly argyle). Billy Hargrove, Bill (dianne’s new huband),  and Will-all being nicknames for William. Robin & Bob-nicknames for Robert. Lonnie & Larry-nicknames for Lawerence. Ted  & Eddie being nicknames for Edward.James (Will’s bully), Jim Hopper (real name James), jacobi, and jason- all 4 are derived from jacob . Marsha Holland (barb’s mom) and marsha kelly (therapist s4)/martin relate to mars. Tom (reporter), tommy (highschooler), thompson (other highschooler).
it’s definitely peculiar to repeat names like this in a story. Unless it means ...something... I talked about how David was mentioning alot of doppelganger/twin imagery recently-here. So the name mirroring could just be an allusion to the Will/WW arc coming up ...possibly?
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Which of the visiting vampires in BD would you have liked to see more of? Who would have been interesting to compare to Bella? Who would Bella gravitate to, if Meyer focused on more of Bella with the other vampires?
For me personally, as someone whose Special Interest as a kid was 10000% Ancient Egypt, I would have loved to have spent more time with Amun and Kebi. They obviously weren't written as particularly friendly, but the fact that Bella didn't even try to talk to them about the time period they were from is just a crime against me personally. You give me Ancient Egyptian Vampires and then just . . . do nothing with the fact they are ancient Egyptian?! It's just to signal they are Old and Foreign? Unfair.
But Bella's the same with the Cullens. Even with her Jane Austen daydreams and Anne of Green Gables fantasies, she doesn't seem at all curious about the time periods her new family is from. I know people are like "omg how didn't she have any follow up questions about Jasper being a confederate?!" and it's true, but she literally had no follow up questions with any of them about anything. Absolutely zero curiosity. Even with Edward! Give me a scene where they are snuggled up in her bed at Charlie's house and she's dreamily asking him what Chicago was like in 1918 or SOMETHING.
It's abundantly clear that SM is not a history buff, she just kind of name drops historical eras without having done the barest bit of research (London didn't have a sewer system! The Civil War wasn't just Gone With the Wind!) so in that sense I'm probably glad she didn't do anything with Kebi and Amun because I'm sure she'd get it wrong. But I was personally so curious.
Also the Amazons! They might be the oldest vampires in existence. Someone talk to them about their history and their people! Then again, I wouldn't trust SM to write it, given that she mostly just portrayed them as Scary and Wild rather than ancient and wise, and her lackluster track record writing other Indigenous characters.
As a comparison to Bella, Tia probably works best? Benjamin came back for her and she willingly went with him, choosing to become a vampire and leave her life behind. That's a pretty decent parallel with Bella. Tia's also fairly quiet, and I think 17 or so, so she and Bella might have become friends, but all the focus is on Benjamin and his superpower.
Honestly SM threw in WAY too many new characters in such a short span of time that we hardly had time to get to know any of them. Which is why it would have been better to integrate them into the earlier books somehow, so meeting them again would be a call back and not the first time we've heard of most of these people. She wanted some big Avengers ensemble but didn't do the work to set it up properly. Here's Iron Man! And the Hulk! And Captain America! And then all these other superheroes you are only just meeting right now and most of them don't even get to speak more than two lines!
Maybe things would have been different if her publishers had agreed earlier to the fourth book. For awhile they wanted to end it with Eclipse, so it makes sense not to include or name drop these other characters if we aren't ever going to see them. Perhaps if they had always planned for four books, SM would have had more time to introduce the other characters and so it would be more like with Peter and Charlotte or the Denali. We had HEARD of them before so it was like, cool, now we get to meet them! But the others just felt like they came out of nowhere and so didn't have the oomph they could have.
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iseathegalaxy · 2 years
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I think what excites me the most about she hulk is how it is now absolutely possible to star bringing big, worldly superheroes down to the street level just like in her comics.
Jen just walking around the lawyer firm building, at which she is a lawyer herself, while being over 2 meters tall and green is amazing and it opens up street level situations and non cosmic scenarios for bug name superheroes to be a part of and I love it.
And if we also take into account how, even if no way home still felt very non-street street level for a parker adventure, it did end by giving us the biggest street-level, friendly neighbour spiderman peter we have ever seen in the mcu and it all truly has me very excited for the street scene were going to be getting in the years to come, I can't wait
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lemmetellastory · 3 years
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Okay but i want the MCU characters wearing shirts or hoodies with their big nemesis’s name on it. Rhodey did wear the Ultron faces that he took down to on his armor. Why not make them all wear some.
Steve wearing “i beat Hydra twice, I can do that again” shirts and also, “i know how to handle the Mjolnir” second one because he does it knowingly.
Natasha wears a “Red In The Ledger” shirts. People don’t ask.
Clint wearing “i sometimes beat Aliens, sometimes Robots, sometimes powerful beings with my bow and arrow, yeah it doesn’t makes sense to me but you do what you do.” i honestly dont know if he had a archnemesis in the MCU? Maybe in the series.
There is a long list with little anecdotes and inside jokes no human understand but it gives Thor to go on a story telling mod whenever someone mentions of the list. Loki is not in the list.
Professor Hulk wears “Bruce Banner/Hulk” shirts that meaning he found his peace with being Hulk. That is the best one. Or he could wear something like “i was a champion gladiator on an alien planet and i dont remember much of it but i beat Thor.”
Tony wears a lot of shirts with anecdotes about AIM or Ten Rings or Fake Mandarin  or Hammer etc. But he has a “Thanos” written one. Only one word. With his name crossed over. It gives chills to most people. He doesnt wear much. He also has Iron Dad shirts. He wears them the most.
Peter wears “i was friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man, but i went to space and i met my multiverse counterparts, so I don’t even know, but i am webbing it.” No sinister six references because of obvious reasons.
Others I don’t know, Scott might get one something like “if lost, look into Quantum Realm.” Or “Ants actually great pets, especially giants ones.” Most of them still new enough to anecdote or can’t think of right now.
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Brawl seeing your tag calling Peter triple J's work son now has me desperately desiring to see his reaction to finding out Peter = Spider-Man and it's a wild new feeling since I do not normaly care about the Spider-Men/Women at all. WHAT CORRUPTION HAVE YOU WROUGHT??!!
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Muhaha. This is such a good very specific topic to latch onto, because you have an embarrassment of riches to sample. Summary-style spoilers.
SOFT SIDEKICK VERSION: Jonah actually knows right now. That reveal is in Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man (2017) #6, “My Dinner With Jonah”. It’s probably the strongest thread in that run. Jonah pretty much goes, “I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU’RE SPIDER-MAN.... I CAN’T BELIEVE I HAVE TO AID AND ABET A MENACE NOW.” “What? No one asked you to--” “No, I’m gonna.” Like it’s seriously just
JJJ: I can’t believe I’m your accomplice now. Give me something to do. Peter: What? Jonah, you’re not my accomplice. Go home. JJJ: No, seriously, is there an introductory pamphlet? Who else knows? Is there a club? Are there t-shirts? Peter: Go home, Jonah. JJJ: When I lie to a cop for you do I get a sticker? Or a voucher for therapy? Peter: Jonah, go home.
Jonah does not go home. He persists through the remainder of this SSM run, and on into the current run of ASM but that’s not as good. The above image is from the issue immediately after #6, which...is #297 because Marvel does that sometimes.
BETRAYED YELLING VERSION: Before that JJJ found out when everybody else did in the identity reveal from Civil War (the comic version), before that was wiped from continuity (with all that juicy relationship goodness only lightly explored even happening across like six titles, alas). He was SMAD. The scene with him finding out is at the beginning of Amazing Spider-Man #533, and the confrontation about it is the subject of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man (2005) #23, where Peter does the “baiting someone you love into punching you to make them feel better/speedrun them being mad at you” trope. Not as soft but they’re still fambily.
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TRAGIC IRONY VERSION: Honorable mention goes to What If? (1977) #24, “What If Spider-Man Had Rescued Gwen Stacy?” As the names imply, this title explored hypotheticals and the status quo was as nothing to them. Here Peter’s identity is leaked to Jonah as a villain plot and he doesn’t go “maybe I should have slowed down and thought about it before reacting to this” until his work husband breaks up with him and takes the kids, leaving Jonah nothing but his empty crusade!
(Okay, Robbie takes Peter and Gwen. Betty’s allegiance is left unclear. On that note, since Betty is absolutely Peter’s work wife and Betty was at the Bugle first, does that make Peter Jonah’s work son-in-law?)
I love this timeline; it’s so wild. This one’s a tragedy and also hands down my personal favorite of the cited issues.
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So there’s 616(-adjacent) reveals ordered from least to most sad pretty much directly in accordance with how long Peter and Jonah have known each other when the ball drops. Probably sample them in chronological order and not how I listed them so you leave feeling gooey about how the Bugle family sticks together, instead of sad about Jonah’s internal clash between deep love and a fatal dose of go-getter attitude. Or don’t, I’m not in charge of you.
BASICALLY ACQUAINTANCES BUT STILL MANAGE TO BE DRAMATIC VERSION?: For completeness’ sake, there’s also a Jonah reveal in Ultimate Spider-Man (2009) #14-15, which is fairly different in tone because it’s set in a dimension where the history between the characters doesn’t run as deep, though they propped it up some by having Jonah have a “Spider-Man is good actually” reveal earlier (USM (2000) 131/retold with less Hulk and more newspaper in the two-shot Ultimatum: Spider-Man Requiem). I’m a main universe bitch, but I looked it up just now just in case the Peter’s-a-minor-here version is secretly super good, and the reveal itself just kind of happens, but for the fallout Ultimate Jonah, who barely fucking knows his Peter, immediately declares he’ll FIGHT THE WORLD for him and turns his paper into a pro-Spidey rag. So that’s fun. Actually I’m just going to inline the wham panel.
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I’d say to calm down, but you are a version of JJJ.
I’m queueing this for not the middle of the night but I’ll point the way to the cited issues in a reblog after I get back from voting.
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gemstone-roses · 4 years
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Thor x Female reader 
I swear by the stars 
Warnings: mentions of sadness, one mention of smut, 18+.
Note: The song was stuck in my head.
Being an avenger was hard, it was also great and fulfilling and you were so grateful you were even on the team, but some days, it was hard. 
Tony and Pepper with their extravagant parties, the buzz of activity whenever tony holed himself up in his lab for days, steve's ridiculous charm , on and off camera, being on camera exhausted you, and steve had told you many times to look like you were enjoying being paraded in front of thousands of viewers, “smile more” he said, you wrinkled your nose and felt like hitting him, having worked in retail before nick fury strolled in and literally whisked you away, the phrase “smile more” would forever haunt you. 
Wanda and Nat were fantastic, they were so friendly, they liked to spend their free time shopping with tonys credit card, they always came back with so much stuff you wondered how they managed to carry it, they always invited you, you always politely declined. 
Bruce was quiet, when he wasn't hulking out, but that was rare, he was nice, you hardly saw him to be honest. 
Sam and bucky, they were quite the pair, lovingly insulting each other in almost every sentence, listening to them was amusing, Sam was very good at making sure you remembered to take care of yourself, he noticed things you didn't, you were very grateful for that. but there was only one person who you wanted tonight. 
Thor. 
The first time you met, you were mean to him.
6am, dripping in not only sweat because Steve and Sam had dragged you out of bed at 4am to go for a run, but rain, as an early morning thunderstorm raged in the sky. Sam thought it was hilarious, Steve hid his laughter by gulping down some water, they were wet too they just didn't care. 
“ You, did you do this?”
“ I don't believe we've met, my love, im thor, it's a pleasure” his voice boomed 
“I know who you are, did you cause this storm?”
“ ha! i do not control the weather”
“You are the literal GOD of thunder. “ your arms were folded, unimpressed
“mm well  i i may have caused a slight disturbance when i arrived this morning travelling through the bifrost, forgive me, next time just shout at the sky that you are going out, ill hear it”
you couldn't believe it, was this man for real? you stormed off to dry off
“fuck you, god of thunder”
you heard his deep laughter as you left a trail of water behind you. 
You found yourself wondering more and more, about Thor, how it would feel to be wrapped up in his embrace,  and his beard, specifically how it would feel brushing across your face, how it would feel against your neck, your thighs. you shook your head, you hoped he couldn't see your thoughts. 
Staring up at the stars, you briefly wondered what it would be like, to leave, live in an apartment , where no one knew who you were or what you've done, no cameras, no accidently walking into one of peters webs. You wondered whether Thor could hear you now, you were silent, but on the inside, a whirl of emotions flooded through you. And then you wondered if emotions could be heard, what would they be? a question for strange, you noted. 
fuck me i really need to sleep you thought
you got up from your chair on the balcony and felt a whoosh as thor landed in front of you. 
“Hello my dear, you look sad, are you sad?” 
“ A little” you admitted 
“ May i ask you why, a beautiful lady such as yourself should not have such a solemn look upon her face”
“ i don't know, i'll be okay, it's just, everything is so loud sometimes, and people are always moving, doing, making, and saving. I feel like everyone and everything is moving so fast and ill get left behind. Do you know what I mean?”
“I'm afraid I do not, but, I am a god, so I shall do what I can, what is there I can do for you, lady y/n?”
He reached his hand up to caress your cheek. You closed your eyes and sighed at the touch.
“Your freezing y/n! here, take my cape” he gently placed it over your shoulders, it was huge, and warm.
“ I'm sorry i was so rude to you the first time we met thor”
“ That's okay my dear, in truth i have not been able to get that day from my mind, the first time i looked at you, i was stunned” 
you were speechless, thor, god of thunder, wanted you?
“Thor, you have access to so many places and planets, you travel across the galaxies and you want me?”
“ My love every day since the day you stood in front of me dripping wet, I have thought about you, feisty, smart, beautiful. '' he stepped closer to you, he leaned his forehead to touch yours.
“of all the women and all the men in the galaxies, and believe me i have met many , it is you who has captured my attention, it is you who has given me, thor, god of thunder restless nights where i wondered how to convey my feelings for you”
“ i. i dont know what to say thor, I never thought I would be good enough for you”
“Then say nothing my love, just know my feelings for you are true, and this, i swear by these very stars we stand beneath tonight”
Your eyes drifted to his lips, His did the same, he closed the gap between you and pressed his lips to yours. It took your breathe away.
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iliumheightnights · 4 years
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We Have A Jedi [15] | Peter Parker x Male Reader
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Fandom: Star Wars, Marvel
Pairing: Peter Parker x Son Reader, Peter Parker x Male Reader
Summary: A distress call brings (M/N) back to earth, possibly for the last time.
Read from the beginning
A/N: HAHAHAHA We’re getting closer to the fun things. 
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The Republic Cruiser Lightbringer.
(M/N) and Sheyo had joined their masters in the defense of the systems around Alderaan. As expected, the empire took the glassing of Alderaan as an opportunity to strike hard and fast against the surrounding systems. After a week of nonstop combat it seemed that things were finally stabilizing as the Empire was being pushed back from the Alderaan system.
Luckily, Alderaan, while being heavily devastated, was not as destroyed as they thought. Large portions of the planet were still habitable and there were still survivors. Still even with the planet remaining intact and with survivors, the casualty count was in the millions. The base that (M/N) and Sheyo had been in was completely obliterated, along with house Organa’s palace. Now that the fighting over the planet had finished, the rebuilding process was able to begin.
(M/N) was standing at the window in his room looking over the ravage planet. The devastation was large, but the sight of so many ships in orbit ready to help filled him with hope. No matter what this war would bring, hope would survive as long as everyone worked together. As he observed his comms went off, checking he saw it was coming from his father. This wasn’t a normal call though, it was a distress call.
(M/N) couldn’t answer the call since it was only putting out a beacon. He quickly called his mom who came in no time. “(M/N) what is it?” He didn’t waste any time in showing her the beacon. “It’s from my old communicator. It’s from dad. He’s in trouble. We have to help.” Janai sighed and rubbed her face. “I’m sorry (M/N). I know you want to help your dad but we can’t. If the council finds out we left they’d come after us, I’ll protect you know matter what. I’m sorry but we’re not going.” She didn’t say anything else as she left the room. “Well I am.” He muttered under his breath. 
Grabbing his things he went to find Sheyo. “Looking for me?” He turned to find his friend coming up to him. “Your mom said for me to keep an eye on you. Where are we off to?” He smiled at her before pulling her along. The two made it to the hangar and found the shuttle they had arrived on. “Alright. We’re going to have to be quick to get out of here. We're going to get in a lot of trouble...you sure you want to come?” Sheyo nodded. “Yep. If someone’s in trouble, we’re supposed to help. Plus you’re my best friend, we’re gonna get in trouble together.” 
They both checked around and when the coast was clear they both booked it for the shuttle. What they hadn’t expected when they boarded was to see Janai and Master Dia there. “So, what part of we’re not going did you not understand?” Janai said. “Sheyo. You know better than this.” Dia said, causing Sheyo to close up a bit. “You’re not going to let this go are you?” Janai asked (M/N), who nodded. “I can’t just leave them. Ignoring the fact he’s my father, we can’t just let people who need our help down!” Janai sighed. “What do you say Dia? Up for a side trip back to Earth?” Dia smirked and went to the ship's controls. “Wouldn’t be the first time I disobeyed the council for you.”
That's how the small group found themselves on their way to earth. “So your father didn’t say anything?” Sheyo asked him. “No. It’s just a beacon. But I have a feeling something really bad has happened.” If only he was wrong. Arriving at Earth they followed the location of the beacon and stumbled on something they weren’t expecting. “Is that...is that city flying?” In front of them a large chunk of the ground was being lifted up by repulsors with a city on it. “We got tons of heat signatures. There’s still people up there...and a lot of electric kinetic energy. Like...a LOT.” Janai stood up and walked to the door of the ship. “Dia. Keep this shuttle airborne. (M/N), Sheyo, with me. We’ll help out with whatever’s going on.” 
The door of the shuttle opened and the three jedi jumped to the city below. The city had been ravaged, people ran around them afraid. It reminded (M/N) of the battle of New York years ago. “There!” Sheyo pointed out and he turned to see droids landing on the ground, seeming to be targeting anyone really. “Take them out! Defend the civilians!” The three ignited their lightsabers and pushed the attack.
(M/N) deflected the bolts of energy back onto the droids, destroying them. Sheyo joined by his side and helped cut through the oncoming waves of enemies. “So, is it just me or do these things look like a messed up version of your dad’s ironman suit?” It was only then that (M/N) actually took a closer look at the droids. Sheyo was right, the droids had a similar face plate to his fathers but had a bit of a difference. “Oh dad, what did you do?”
“Incoming!” His mother shouted and he saw a large wave of droids rushing their way. “There’s too many of them for us to handle!” Sheyo said. (M/N) quickly surveyed the surrounding area to find anything that might help them. That help came in the form of a wrecked bus. Perfect. He reached out both hands and focused on the bus. It took everything from him to lift the wreck and launch it at the wave of incoming hostels. The good news was that it took out a large chunk of the droids, allowing the three to cut the rest down.
Dia’s voice cut through the comms. “These things are trying to take me out but I’m handling it. A new ship arrived...a big one! But they seem to be friendlies they’re helping evacuate civilians. They could use some more help though.” The three didn’t need to be told again and made their way to the location. Upon their arrival (M/N)’s eyes widened as he saw the helicarrier. He thought they had been destroyed when Steve told him about the whole Hydra ordeal. Speaking of Steve, he saw the supersoldier and Nat helping protect the people from the droids.
A swarm of droids descended on the civilians and (M/N) rushed to protect. He watched as Steve became surrounded and he quickly sprung into action. Jumping over a wrecked car he ignited his blades and sliced through the droids. He blocked some blaster fire and started speaking. “I leave for a couple days and this is what happens? Aren’t you supposed to be earth’s mightiest?” He smirked and Steve let out a laugh grabbing his shield before throwing it at the droids. “Hey, blame your dad for this one.” (M/N) jumped over Steve and cut the head off another droid. “Oh I am! Now where’d this carrier come from? I thought you said they were all destroyed!” He blocked more bolts and Steve smashed his shield into the chest of another droid. “Fury.” He simply said and (M/N) nodded his head. “Sounds about right.”
The sound of familiar repulsors came to his ears and he looked up to watch his father fly past firing at some droids that were flying. He also noticed how Rhodey had joined the fight. “When did he join the avengers?” He also watched as a man with what looked like wings flew by. “And who’s that?” Steve smiled and patted (M/N)’s shoulder. “Sam. Come on, we have to protect the core!” Janai followed (M/N) but Sheyo stayed with the civilians. “Go! I’ll protect the people here. Go protect whatever the core is!” 
Steve and Nat lead them to where the core was. They were met with the others and his father quickly hugged him. “What are you doing here? I thought you’d be out there.” (M/N) stopped and pulled back looking at Tony confused. “What do you mean? I came because of the distress beacon you sent out.” Tony seemed confused, even through the armor. “I didn’t send out any beacon.” A robotic voice called out. “I did.” He turned to see another droid but looked much more put together than the others. “Welcome home (M/N) Stark. Let’s see if the jedi are actually up to par.”  (M/N) ignited his lightsabers, Janai joining him. “Is this the best you can do!?” Thor shouted at the droid. In that moment a large swarm of droids came rushing. “You just HAD to ask. Didn’t you?” (M/N) glared at Thor who smiled sheepishly.
The main robot continued his speech. “This is what I wanted. All of you against me. How could you possibly hope to stop me?” Tony powered up his suit again and stood firm next to his son. “Well,like the old man said. Together.” And in an instant (M/N) was once again fighting side by side with the avengers. During the fight, (M/N) noticed three new members he hadn’t met yet. One was a man who was incredibly fast, another was a woman who seemed to have a strange red glow around her, the other a man who could fly...and was that the mind stone?!
During the fight he also found out what the head droid’s name was. Ultron. The flying man with the mind stone shot out a beam knocking Ultron away from the rest of the attack, Thor and Tony followed after shooting their own beams at the droid. Not wanting it to get away (M/N) focused on the force and thought of a technique he had never tried before. He had only seen it be used by Master Plo once before. It was the Jedi's version of force lightning. Force Judgement. He shot out his hands and orange bolts of lightning began zapping Ultron. He could have sworn he saw Thor smirk at him. (M/N) even smirked as he watched the lightning hit Ultron, he was able to actually do it. He used force judgement! They all stopped firing on Ultron. “You know, with the benefit of hindsight…” He didn’t get to finish his sentence as Hulk came in and punched him, sending him flying. “Hey Hulk!” The colossal green man turned to (M/N) who lifted up a thumb. “Nice work bud!” Hulk smiled and grinned at him before running off. Ultron’s bots began retreating. “We can’t let them leave the city!” His dad said. “We have another problem, the airs getting thin. We need to hurry up.” Janai said approaching them.
The civilians still needed to be evacuated and (M/N) found himself following Steve, Nat and Clint. “So...you come from space?” (M/N) looked at the man beside him, the new one. “Yep. And you run fast.” The man faked an insulted look. “You insult me. I’m the fastest man alive.” (M/N) shook his head and rolled his eyes but let a chuckle escape him. At least if he died here he died in good company. Steve was sweeping for stragglers while the rest had met up with Sheyo and helped evacuate the remaining people. The evacuation had been going alright and (M/N) was making sure that no bots got close enough to anyone. Then he felt like something was off. He turned and watched as Clint grabbed a boy and Pietro, the new man, seemed to rush for him. He noticed an ultron bot begin firing at Clint and the boy, but Pietro would be the one to take them. No, he wasn’t going to lose anyone today. Without even thinking (M/N) let out a scream releasing all of his anger and the bot and it’s bullets froze in time. Clint and Pietro looked at the frozen bot and (M/N). With his anger, (M/N) brought his hands together and the bullets and bot came crushing in on itself. Clint, the boy and Pietro were alright. They were alive. (M/N) became light headed and leaned on the side of a building. He had just tapped in and used the darkside. What the scariest part was, was how natural it came to him. Soon he found himself being lifted up and quickly moved. Pietro had moved him to one of the boats. “You stay here. You’ve done enough protecting people!” Then Pietro was gone, going to find his sister. The last thing (M/N) noticed was Hulk jumping after a jet before falling into darkness.
He woke up in a nice bed. Around him were monitors and wires, so he was in a med room. Unlike other med rooms and units he had been in, this one actually seemed more relaxed and comfortable. There was a window and he noticed how he was on the ground, not in the air. He wondered what happened? What remained of that city? Did all the people escape? Then he thought of what happened before he passed out. He used the dark side. The one thing he was never supposed to do and he did it. He stopped thinking of it, if he continued to think over it, it would consume him.
Sitting up, he stepped out of the bed. The machines began to beep but (M/N) simply turned them off. He was still dressed like how he had when they arrived. He moved to the door and opened it up to an empty hallway. He looked around him but didn’t recognize where he was. “You’re awake!” He recognized that voice. With a rush of air, Pietro was standing in front of him smiling at him. “Welcome back my friend! I gotta say you scared us there with how quickly you passed out.” Another voice joined them. “Oh leave him alone.” The woman that was there too walked up to them leaning on Pietro. “I’m Wanda. We haven’t gotten to meet yet. My brother told me about what you did. Thank you for saving his life.” (M/N) rubbed the back of his neck and smiled. “No problem. Didn’t want to lose anyone, especially the ONE person with an actual sense of humor.” They all laughed, but Wanda began walking. “Come on. I’m sure they’ll be happy to see you’re awake.”
The twins took him to another room where Tony and Steve were talking with Janai, Dia and Sheyo. “(M/N)! You’re awake!” Sheyo shouted when she spotted him. His mother smiled at him but Tony charged at him pulling him into a hug. “Don’t ever scare me like that again.” (M/N) patted Tony’s back. “Love you too dad.” Steve came up and patted (M/N)’s shoulder. “Pietro and Clint told us what happened. Good work kid.” (M/N)’s smile faltered a bit but only a bit. “I’m sorry to interrupt this touching moment, but I hate to say we must be leaving. We’ve been gone for too long already.” Janai said and (M/N) felt how his father deflated a bit. “Oh, yeah of course. Better get going.” He could see how Tony was down again and (M/N) was going to say something when the man with the mind stone came floating through the wall! “Excuse me sir. There’s a ship approaching the base.” Everyone was confused. “Ship? What do you mean Vision?” 
Exiting the base, they watched as a ship came flying towards the base. “Oh no.” Janai said, then turning to Tony. “Don’t say anything. You know us as friends from when I was here years ago.” Tony and the others seemed confused. “That’s a Jedi ship. This isn’t about to be good.” The ship landed and the ramp opened. (M/N)’s breath hitched as he watched five temple guards walk down the ramp. (M/N) and Janai walked forward. “Janai Udera. You have been summoned by the Jedi Council.” The head guard said. Janai bowed. “Off course. My padawan and I shall leave immediately.” The guard held up a hand. “He will go, but not as your padawan.” The man turned to (M/N). “(M/N) Stark, for breaking the rules of the Jedi order you are placed under arrest. You will be stripped of your weapons and taken before the Jedi Council to be judged.” The other guards surrounded him, taking his lightsabers and igniting their own creating a block between him and the avengers. “Master Dia. You and your padawan shall return to your original assignment of protecting the Alderaan system. Do not make us return for you.” Master Dia bowed at the man. “Of course.” The head guard turned and walked back up the ramp. (M/N) gave one last look at the avengers and saw how his dad looked so confused, sad and angry. Then he was being pushed forward by the guards.
The door of the ship closed and (M/N) wondered. What was going to happen now?
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peppersonironi · 4 years
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Batfam/Avengers Crossover Chapter Six: Blooming Bromance
Tagging (Let me know if you want to be tagged): @the-fair-maiden-of-fandom
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Category: Gen
Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types, The Avengers (Marvel) - All Media Types
Relationships: Selina Kyle/Bruce Wayne, Natasha Romanov & Damian Wayne, Clint Barton & Cassandra Cain, Tim Drake & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Tim Drake & Duke Thomas, Pamela Isley/Harleen Quinzel, Tim Drake/Kon-El | Conner Kent, Dick Grayson/Wally West, Roy Harper/Koriand'r/Jason Todd,
Characters: Bruce Wayne, Selina Kyle, Jason Todd, Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Damian Wayne, Cassandra Cain, Stephanie Brown, Barbara Gordon, Justice League (DCU), Alfred Pennyworth, Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanov (Marvel), Clint Barton, Thor (Marvel), Bruce Banner, Peter Parker, Alfred the Cat (DCU), Bat-Cow (DCU), Goliath (DCU), Selina Kyle’s Cat Isis, Kate Kane (DCU), Duke Thomas,
Additional Tags: Batbrothers (DCU), Avengers Meet The Batfam, MCU/Batfam crossover, Crossover, no beta we die like robins, rated T for Jason’s language, I bleeped it out though. Just to be safe, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, canon? What’s canon?, Deaf Clint Barton,Deaf Character, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Happy Batfamily (DCU), Birdflash and joyfire are implied/referenced,
Summary: Tim hangs out with the youngest Avenger. A bromance is blooming.
Tim sighed into his mug of coffee. Everyone in his family - minus Stephanie and Babs, since they didn’t live at the manor -  had been gathered in the cave to discuss the ongoing conversation between some of the interdimensional visitors. They - consisting of Natasha Romanoff, Clint Barton, Steve Rogers, and Tony Stark - seemed to have been really freaked out by some of Jason’s snide comments, and were now discussing if the bats were in fact trustworthy.
Tim blamed Jason for this whole mess. Jason couldn’t hold his stupid tounge, so now Bruce had called everyone - after Cass told him what was happening -  together to spy on their guests and work out a plan.
Their conversation wasn’t that interesting either. It was everyone going back and forth, never changing their own arguments. The most interesting thing that happened was when Stark hopped on a computer and started to do research on them. Not that they found much.
“No way in f*** are we amicable!” Jason exclaimed when the article was brought up and read aloud.
“Aw, you sure little wing?” Dick asked, elbowing Jason.
“T-t,” Damian said, rolling his eyes. “Will you two imbeciles shut up? I’m trying to listen.”
Turns out there wasn’t much more. As soon as the Avengers dispersed, Tim turned off the computer. “Now what?”
Cass frowned. “They need trust. Show them.”
Bruce nodded. “Yes, it would be best if they trust us, as we are the ones sending them home. Lack of trust might provoke unnecessary responses from them. It would be best if we can work well together.”
“Show them.” Cass repeated vehemitaly.
“I agree with Cass,” Tim replied. “We shouldn’t just tell them to trust us. That could be taken quite badly. We need to show them.”
“How?” Duke asked. “I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but you are definitely not good at showing your emotions well.”
Bruce sighed heavily. “Yes, Duke, you have made that abundantly clear in the past.” Duke smiled at that, looking rather sheepish. Bruce frowned in concentration. “Let them make the first move. If they try to question you, don’t hold anything back. Try to be friendly.” Tim noticed he directed that last part at Damian and Jason.
“Don’t hold anything back?” Jason asked, an evil smirk growing on his face. Tim shuddered inwardly at whatever gruesome tale Jason was planning on sharing.
“Within reason,” Bruce growled.
Duke stood up. “Well, that sounds good for you guys, but I have Gotham to patrol.” Duke strolled off with a decidedly self satisfied smile on his face. He clearly thought that he was getting out of sharing his life story.
Bruce sighed once more. “Very well, Duke. Good luck.”
Duke nodded his thanks as he made his way to the changing rooms to get ready for his patrol.
*****
“Dude, this is incredible!” Peter had given Tim a chance to look at his web-shooters, and Tim was being a total fangirl over it.
“Thanks,” Peter replied, seeming quite proud. “The basic design is mine, Mr. Stark supplied some improvements though.”
Tim nodded as he continued to examine the device. “Are these veins turbine pumps?”
Peter grinned. “Yup! They compress the web fluid before shooting it out through the spinneret holes which cold-draws the solution and extrudes it through the air, where it solidifies.”
“And during the process the  nylon gains a four-fold increase in tensile strength?”
“Exactly!”
Tim shook his head at the brilliance. “Wow, this is utterly brilliant!”
“Thanks! Do you want to see the chemical formula?” Peter asked. He seemed really eager to talk about it with someone his own age.
“Of course!” Tim hit his forehead. “Gosh, I’m sorry! I completely forgot you came to me to see if we could make more.”
Peter shrugged, “no worries. I’m glad you like the devices.”
Tim reached over to one of the coffee tables in the sitting room they were occupying and handing it to Peter, who promptly began to write down the formula.
Upon seeing it, Tim gasped uncontrollably. “Oh my god, this is the greatest thing I have seen in a long time!” Peter had to be a genius to come up with this, Tim decided.
Peter grinned at Tim. “Really?”
“Totally!”
“You guys done fangirling?” A voice came from the door. “ ‘cause we have some people to decimate!”
Tim looked over to find Jason leaning against the doorframe, two nerf guns in hand.
“Decimate?” Peter asked.
Jason rolled his eyes. “Capture the flag on the back lawn in five. Bring whatever non-lethal weapons you want. You can get ‘em approved before the game starts.” And with that, he strolled off.
“You guys play Capture The Flag?” Peter looked excited.
Tim stood up, organizing the notes, then setting them aside. “Yup! It can get pretty wild though. Think you can handle it?”
Peter grinned. “I think so.”
*****
“Welcome to the 67th annual Bat Fa-”
“It's not annual and you know it Dick.”
Dick pouted as he looked over at Tim. “Come on, Timbo, let me have this!”
“Drake is correct, Grayson. You are acting idiotically.”
Tim glanced over at Damian. “You’re admitting I’m right?”
Damian glowered at his brother. “Of course not.” “But you jus-”
“Are we playing or not?” Someone had managed to rope Bruce into the game, but he was being pretty snippy about it.
Dick sighed, looking defeated. “Fine. Capture the flag. You all know how to play?” Everyone nodded, except Thor.
“I am unfamiliar with this specific midgardian game.”
Dick nodded. “Ok, that’s fine. Good chance to go over the rules anyway. There are two teams, each take one side of the playing area. So each team has a flag, or item of some sort that they each place in a visible yet defendable position. Part of the team defends their flag, while the other part attempts to steal their opponents’. If you get caught on the opposite team's territory, they put you in jail. Only one of your teammates can get you out, by tapping you. Get it?”
Everyone nodded. “Good. A few extra rules that must be followed,” Dick looked pointedly at Jason and Damian as he continued, “ include: no maiming. Serious injuries of most kinds are off limits. Lethal weapons are also out, unless you know how to use them nonlethally. You are also not allowed to leave the playing area at any point. Nor are you allowed to use cookies as bait in any traps. Especially Alfred’s cookies.”
Dick looked pointedly at Tim during the last rule, much to Tim’s chagrin. It had been one time!
“And finally, no touching Alfred’s shrubbery.” Everyone with the exception of the Avengers cringed at that. “Everyone understand?”
There was a chorus of “Yups” “Yes’s” and “f*** yeah, b****!” Tim didn’t need to be the world’s second greatest detective to guess where that last one came from.
“Good,” Dick said, grinning. “We’ll have two teams. Captains are Bruce and me. Let’s get into a line and start dividing.”
Tim got in line, grumbling slightly. A few of the Avengers had also joined, specifically Peter, Thor, and Banner. Tim wasn’t sure how much of a help Banner could be without “Hulking out” as Peter put it, but the guy seemed smart. It seemed like it would be an interesting game.
“Lil’ D!” Dick called, quite predictably. Damian grumbled and walked over to Dick’s side.
Bruce took longer to choose. He examined the faces of each person, one by one. “Tim.” Tim smiled, he had been expecting Dick to choose him, but with Bruce, Tim didn’t have to deal with the demon brat.
Dick chose Thor next, then Bruce chose Jason. They continued back and forth till Dick’s team consisted of Damian, Thor, and Banner. Bruce had chosen Tim, Jason, and Peter. Cassandra had opted to Referee the game, much to everyone’s relief. They could play everyone against Cass, and his sister would still win.
“Flags?” Cass asked once everyone had assembled with their teams.
“I got these from Alfred!” Dick said as he grabbed two large banners from beside a tree. One was Green, the other Blue.
Cass nodded. “You get Blue. Bruce, green.” Once Dick had handed the other banner to Bruce, Cass continued. “Ten minutes to plan and hide flags. Then go.”
They split up, Tim following right behind Bruce. “Ideas?” he asked when they were all in the cover of the trees that they had chosen for their side.
“The flag will go up in the old oak tree, as high as you can get it, Peter. I want Jason on Guard Duty near the tree, I’ll be farther out doing a border patrol. Tim and Peter, you’re both on infiltration duty. Skirt the sides as much as possible. Dick will most likely be trying to cross over, avoid him if you can. Watch out for Damian, too. He'll be joining Dick. Thor will most likely be guarding their flag along with Banner. He won’t be able to resist the pun. They should be pretty easy to take down.” Bruce paused for a moment, thinking. “Dick will probably place his banner somewhere near the westward fountain. Use the ivy wall to the east as cover.”
Everyone nodded, and separated. Peter scrambled up the oak tree with ease, and placed the banner at the literal top. It’d be almost impossible for anyone to reach it, but Tim knew Dick would love the challenge.
A couple minutes later, the guard routes were established, and Tim had shown Peter the way to the flag by drawing a diagram in the dirt. Tim quickly wiped it away, however, when Cass sounded an Airhorn. Tim had no idea where she had gotten it, but didn’t bother trying to figure it out. Tim sprinted to the side almost immediately, Peter right behind them. They wove through the trees, keeping to the shadows. Peter wasn’t nearly as stealthy as Tim, but they both kept out of sight.
Right as they were about to cross over the border, Tim stopped them. “Let’s get an aerial view before we proceed.”
“Sounds good,” Peter replied as they started to climb a nearby tree. Turns out it was the right choice, because they were awarded front row seats to Bruce grabbing Damian by his collar.
“Not today, Damian. You’re going to jail.” Bruce smiled fondly as he carried his youngest son away from the border and off to the previously chosen prison.
“Grayson!” Damian shreeked. “How dare you abandon me! Unhand me this instant, Father! Grayson! You shall rue the day I make my escape! This insult has not gone unnoticed! I refuse to be kept against my will by plebeians! You had better drop everything to assist me Grayson, or -”
Damian’s outraged voice slowly faded away as he was hauled off.
“Oof,” Peter said. “Think Dick will get him out?”
Tim snorted before shaking his head. “Knowing Dick, he’ll be remorseful for a bit before completely forgetting about the kid.”
Peter nodded. “Well, one less person we have to deal with, right?”
Tim grinned. “Yup! We should probably get going.”
*****
“Mmff! Mfffff-mmmf!”
“I think we did a good job, whattaya say, bug-boy?” Tim and Peter grinned down at a bound and gagged Thor and Banner. Both trying and failing to escape their bonds.
“I think we did quite well, bird-boy.” Peter replied. “But we should probably get going.”
Tim nodded as he plucked the banner from atop the fountain, right where Bruce said it would be.
“Let’s go!” they race off towards the border.
It didn’t take them long for them to reach the wide patch of grass marked with a hastily placed length of rope, but their path was blocked. Thor had managed to get out of Peter’s webs, and chased after them. He stood  facing them, his hammer out, pointing at their chests.
“Halt! I must not allow you any further.”
Tim grinned. “Bet I can take him down first.”
Peter grinned right back. “You’re on!”
Togather, they charged the norse god. Peter was flipped over Thor’s shoulder, shooting his webs out and pulling Thor’s helmet over his eyes, though he quickly pulled it up again. Tim unleashed a flurry of batarangs, which Thor dodged. This, however, set him off balance. Tim activated a smoke bomb, and expertly navigated the limited visuals to attack Thor, who was in the process of throwing Peter to the ground.
When the smoke cleared, Thor was once again on his back, taken down by Tim. Peter was also on his back.
“You okay there, Peter?”
Peter groaned and rolled over. “Yup. You won, though.”
Tim crowed. “Hah! Yeah, I did!” He offered his hand to his downed companion. You did a good job too though. We make a great team.”
Peter stood, and together they crossed over the border holding the banner just as Dick came out of the trees being chased by both Jason and Bruce.
“Aw, crap.” Dick said upon seeing Peter and Tim already back on their own territory.
Almost immediately, Cass appeared. A newly freed Banner also appeared. Well, he limped out of the trees.
“Team Grumpy Wins,” Cass says triumphantly. It took a moment for Tim to realise what she had said.
“Wait, I thought we didn’t use team names?”
Cass smiled and pointed at Bruce. “Grumpy.” She then turned to Dick. “Happy.”
Jason smirked. “That’s an accurate assessment.”
He and Cass high-fived.
“Yeah, yeah, yeah,” Dick said good naturedly. “Good job guys. You up for another round?”
“Different teams this time,” Tim replied.
Dick smiled, “Sounds good! Maybe Dami should lead this time.” Dick’s eyes widened. “Crap! Damian!”
Everyone burst into laughter as Dick sprinted towards Team Grumpy’s jail.
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