#alastor critical

[doodler16]

Anyone know which livestream has Vivziepop mentioning that Alastor didn't really care about having the overlord title/him only doing what he wants. I know the pilot illustrates that aspect very well but I rather hear it from her Vivziepop’s mouth, herself admitting it. I mainly want it as further evidence when I drag series Alastor’s lame ass in a future video.

[ms-cartoon]

Alastor as a powerful demon is a little disappointing.

No really . . . he was honestly lame this season. Viv really hyped him up to be this scary, strong, intimidating overlord who's not to be f**ked with under any circumstances only to show him off as a joke, like the rest of these villains.

Alastor is not intimidating at all. If anything he's more predictable. . . Or I guess predictable is not the right word, but it gives off the feeling like an "I've seen it all before" kinda deal. I mean- I would expect little more than this-

I mean seriously writers?? . . .A giant with tentacles??!! He's not even all that different from his usual appearance?? It doesn't feel original. It's like Viv thought "Yeah, you guys remember when Ursula from The Little Mermaid turned into a giant. Let's do that with Alastor but with less effort." Hell, at least with Ursula, it was scary. Alastor just felt . . . lazy.

And not only that, but his fight with Adam left a sour impression too-

Granted he did better than the scene where he turned into a giant out of nowhere, but this whole fight was left with a rather unsatisfying result. Alastor's fight with Adam lasted for like- a minute and now all of a sudden, he wants to melts into ooze and disappear somewhere??

So you're telling me this so-called "OvErLoRd" got whacked with a guitar ONCE and that was enough for him to bleed and get weak??? He suddenly can't use magic like he's been doing since fighting Adam?? And he just leaves like a sore loser??? I don't care if the guitar was an angelic weapon, it didn't leave that much of an impact. Alastor could've held his own a little bit. It wasn't like he was STABBED to death.

Don't even tell me that it's because his staff was broken that he's suddenly weak, cuz he magically reappears in the final song and is all healed up like nothing happened (cuz pretty much, nothing did happen).

Overall, for an overlord, Alastor is not as strong or intimidating as Viv wants us to think he is. It just looks like he's trying to hard.

[peachi-blossom]

Non-Hazbin Hotel characters that are better than Alastor

I hate Alastor because he comes off as an edgelord and he has DIFFERENT SHADES OF RED TO THE POINT HE BLENDS IN THE BACKGROUND. Also again with Vivienne Medrano coddling her precious babies who are actually terrible people who do terrible things to people who didn't do anything wrong. It's genuinely annoying.

EDIT: 7/5/24

I have written what Alina and Yuu wished for.

EDIT: 7/7/24

The reason I put Shadow the Hedgehog on my list because people were calling him edgelord in the past, but this year, Alastor has surpassed him. Now everyone, the reward for being the ultimate edgelord goes to... "drum roll" "drum roll" "drum roll"

Alastor! Congratulations, you are now the ultimate edgelord in all of history!

EDIT: 7/9/24

I replaced Imposter from Among Us with Mortimer Handee because he uses Voodoo for evil purposes.

[trashogram]

How would I improve Alastor?

• Open the first episode of Hazbin Hotel with him doing a live broadcast that serves 3 separate functions:

> To advertise the hotel/recap the premise.

> To inform Hell that he’s returned after his 7-year long absence.

> Warn Overlords and Sinners that he’s going to be making good on overdue deals.

• Have the Live Broadcast visibly reach all ears in the Pride Ring whether or not characters have a radio. Show that Alastor is capable of manipulating technology of all kinds when it calls for it.

> This can tie into his rivalry with Vox nicely

• Alastor views Vox’s attempts at stirring up drama with him as petty and childish and does not engage. Show that Alastor thinks he is above petty squabbling with others that are technically in league with himself.

• Have him remain a passive presence within the hotel for the most part. He may do something “helpful” here and there but is mainly around to enjoy himself and this is apparent throughout.

• No swearing or overt violence. Alastor is the Charming Bastard trope incarnate as he considers himself a respectable gentleman despite the fact that he is a monster. He prides himself on an impeccable self-image and manners that separate him from the “rabble” of average sinners and uncouth Overlords.

• Voodoo is not part of his character whatsoever because 1.) The creators haven’t proven themselves capable of implementing this aspect respectfully nor have they consulted with the communities that have history with it or practice it and 2.) Alastor already has a lot going on and doesn’t need this aspect to be an interesting character. Just leave it on the cutting room floor.

• No Kaiju-sized Alastor.

• Alastor does not antagonize Lucifer. Any negative feelings he has regarding the King of Hell are hidden extremely well. At most, have Alastor treat Lucifer like anyone else, but subdued as far as quips or condescension.

• Establish how Alastor utilizes the souls in his employ to do his bidding. A possibility I have in mind is that the darkness/shadows he conjures up to travel, use in song and dance numbers, manipulate objects and other people, etc. are manifestations of other demons he made deals with.

• Show us a key moment or moments where Alastor is treated as rudely as any other sinner until he speaks genteelly. Have his politeness be met with terror as the ones who harassed or mistreated him realize he is the infamous Radio Demon.

[tategaminu]

One is a scary deer demon character from a colorful musical 2D animated show

The other is a character from Hazbin Hotel

[lust-for-ultraviolence]

Angel: I am an SA victim and addicted to drugs 😢

Husk: 🎶 you're a whiny bitch somethin' somethin' you're a loser baby🎶

Angel: lmao true! I will continue to be a sex pest towards you and Alastor. My trauma only shows up to be teh smexy uwu!

Bonus

Charlie: oemgee! Alastors victims that he ATE are gonna be so HAPPY to see him when he gets redeemed and goes to heaven.

Bonus bonus

Vaggie: heyyyyy babe. We're in bed....together.......and I'm not wearing underwear.

Charlie: that's weird, ya silly billy. Did you poopoo yourself? I'll go get you a new pair.

Vaggie: *sobs in sexual frustration*

[littledemon55]

The only Alastor I respect ✋😔

(His name is actually Alistair, but it sounds exactly like Alastor)

He's from Barbie in a Mermaid Tale 2 btw, which is a solid experience ^°^

[oneandonlyfazimus]

Not gonna lie, the Ink Demon from Bendy and the Dark Revival is what Vivziepop tried to make Alastor, except actually effective(Vague spoilers for Batdr).

He's a powerful demon who has been missing for some time, is feared by everyone, he likes to talk himself up, has a dark and mysterious connection to the female main character, poses a threat to her goals but at the same time helps her out of his own ulterior motives, and absolutely despises her father.

The only difference is that the Ink Demon isn’t a tryhard.

[k1ttygam3r]

This is probably a hot take but I think that American horror media should come up with their own cryptids instead of taking from Native American folklore

[hallows-personal-hell]

hot take: people who associate anything related to asexuality or aromanticism with alastor hazbin hotel are really annoying.

(yes I am an alastor hater)

(normally I wouldn't complain about the representation, it's just the people who make everything about him)

[doodler16]

If you asked me during the hazbin hotel pilot era who my favorite character was, it be Alastor 100%. He unironically stole the show with his mystery (if the pilot didn’t have Vaggie lore dump unnecessary I would’ve enjoyed a bit more), personality, voice, charisma, and heck even his design especially his consistent smile intrigued me. Even the way he interacted with the entire cast made me excited.

So what do I think of Alastor now? Alastor to me is a loser, unironically an attention whore in terms of screen time and merch, an egotistical, petty person, and a man child edgelord. He lost most of his mystery and charisma throughout the show (though I will admit I am interested in his backstory but I won’t be surprised if he, himself has daddy issues. And, I did find some of his jokes funny).

The pilot portrayed Alastor as this powerful overlord who didn’t care about his status which made him so unique. He wasn’t gloating about how he’s the radio demon about to end your fucking life. Alastor in the pilot was subtle. At the snap of his fingers he destroys Sir Pentious with no hesitation and no exchange of words. Meanwhile, Alastor in the show has to blab and go this tangent of how sloppy, slow, and unprofessional Adam is only to get his ass handed to him.

Alastor in the show frequently mentions his status and gets pissy when most don’t care that he’s back or straight up not recognize him. Meanwhile, in the pilot you will notice that it’s the opposite, Charlie (the princess of Hell) and Vaggie are freaking out that Alastor is here at their door. It truly shows much power and control presents in the pilot without even trying.

The thing that disappointed me the most was his lack of interaction with the main hazbin squad. It was the driving point of why I was excited for Alastor and how his involvement was going to shake up the hotel for better or worse. Only to find out He barely interacts with them and I’m supposed to “care” when the most of cast members hug and get excited that he is alive in episode 8.

Speaking of the hotel, he barely contributes much regarding the hotel and fucks around. Like I was expecting him to at least help Charlie and Vaggie brainstorm activities for the sinners to do or even take control in his own of how he would handle Angel dust and Sir Pentious. Heck or even go outside with Charlie and Vaggie to promote the hotel to other sinners via singing and cause some drama/mischief along the way. Specifically talking about the hotel, the only things he did was do the commercial, fix the walls, and protects the hotel twice. But That’s it.

As I mentioned earlier, Alastor is an attention whore in terms of stealing the spotlight in the actual show and being in most episodes, which may be good for Alastor fans. They got the full course meal but Vivziepop needs to focus on other undeveloped main characters who desperately need the attention and development. Which why Alastor should be used sparingly, this would also make the audience more interested with him and creates more mystery.

For example: Episode 5, Dad Beat Dad: you would think the episode would focus on Charlie and Lucifer’s relationship which it does for a small portion but we also gotta have Alastor in there so he could drop the biggest F bomb to Lucifer to show that he means business and hatessss him. We also gotta dedicate a 2:30 minute song duet between the two men having a pissing contest, along with our home girl Mimzy being a plot device/prop for Alastor in order to HYPE HIM UP and tell his origins. Because Alastor soooo mysterious and such a hunkkkk. Oh yeah, Charlie is there I guess…

Also, Alastor’s smile in the show bothers me personally, more specifically the way it’s drawn. It’s to jaded and sharp, so it’s pretty obvious to tell how he feels and emotions Alastor goes through. Meanwhile, in the pilot his smile and energy is so goofy and I miss that. That really added to mystery because not only keeps you on your toes but you don’t know what’s on his mind for the most part or his long term goal.

This is by far my longest post and I wanted to get this off my chest regarding Alastor. 😭

[ms-cartoon]

Since I talked about Husk and his choice of a voice actor, might as well talk about some other characters I don't agree with.

I don't mind Stephanie Beatriz as Vaggie, but her voice direction could use some work. In the pilot, Monica Franco as Vaggie felt more fitting because there was more emotion and feeling when she was speaking. When talking to Charlie, I could hear the amount of concern and care she expressed when she voiced her worry to Charlie, especially about not wanting her to sing. When talking to Angel, she sounds really angry and annoyed over what he did as if she really wants to strangle him, which is a good way to show us how much of a hot-tempered individual she is.

However, when I hear tv show Vaggie, her voice just sounds . . . dead I guess is the word. It almost sounds like Stephanie didn't wanna be on set and is just completely bored. There's barely any emotion to whatever she's saying. In case you don't get where I'm going here, let's just say the expression on her voice doesn't match the expression on her face.

I don't like Alex Brightman as Sir Pentious.

He barely sounds anything like his pilot version. As a matter of fact, the only thing that stood the same was high voice. He literally sounds like Beetlejuice/Fizzaroli trying too hard to pass off a British accent. Plus, he's already voicing like, two people who are recurring characters (Adam and Fizzarolli) he does not need to fill the role of another character.

This is the miscast that makes me laugh.

I feel like the only reason why Viv chose Brandon to voice Katie was cuz she happens to resemble one of the characters he portrays, Bryce Tankthrust, and decided at the last minute that he should voice Katie using the Bryce Tankthrust voice.

That being said, I don't like Brandon Rogers voicing Katie Killjoy. It just does not suit her. Not sure how I can explain it, but something about this feels forced. Like just because she looks and somewhat acts similar to Bryce, Viv thought Brandon was the best choice for Katie Killjoy.

My opinion on Alastor's voice is the same as Vaggie's, Amir is an okay choice for Alastor, however, he could be better. It's just one thing though.

I really do miss Edward Bosco as Alastor. He was perfect for that role, but I'm not trying to be biased here. My only problem is Amir doesn't sound threatening or intimidating enough for Alastor's character, and when he is trying to sound threatening, it sounds forced.

[peachi-blossom]

Non-Hazbin Hotel character's form(s) that is (are) scarier and intimidating than Alastor's full demon form

I made a comparison of each character's form(s) that is (are) scarier and intimidating than Alastor's full demon form.

His full demon form looks like a edgy creepypasta OC.

[arteicetb]

I know you’re an Alastor Hater and I will respect that, but I would love to ask you if you refer the Pilot Alastor’s personality over the series or none if you were to remake Alastor’s whole info?

Pilot Alastor all the way. He was far more fun, mysterious, charismatic and actually interacted with everyone for the brief moment he came in unlike the screen hog that’s in the show.

[trashogram]

Vivienne making Alastor ace because "He only cares about himself" like woman do you even know what ace actually is ffs I think we aaaaall know people that are not ace at all, that can be either straight or gay or bi and are selfish as hell and only care about themselves. What the eff is she even talking about

That’s bigotry for you.

Viv is a good example of someone that makes a fashion statement out of social consciousness.

She’ll make bank off of people that think just including characters with varying sexual identities means an IP is a gold-star standard but do you think she actually understands what she’s putting out or even thinks about trying to?

Nope.

[velvette-hussle]

I swear, the way HH fans dick ride Alastor is so fucking irritating.

Alastor is powerful by sinner standards - and is a top Overlord by those same standards - but he’s not beating Lucifer in anything but a semi-serious verbal pissing contest, and all of the sins (like Adam) should be able to wipe his ass out without actually being significantly stunned.

[See: Alastor throwing everything at Adam and mostly only succeeding in slowing him down and irritating him, which is impressive but clearly doesn’t point to Alastor being able to beat anyone above a sinner (barring Imps, Hellhounds, & Incubi/Succubi).

Add to that the fact that the only reason Alastor was able to land the hits he did was because Adam wasn’t taking the situation seriously (a personality flaw of his that Alastor exploited to give him the leg up he needed). The moment Adam seriously applies himself to the fight, however, he instantly knocks Alastor off kilter and significantly stuns him with one blow; which results in Alastor tucking tale and running for self preservation and pride reasons because he came face to face with his own mortality and shortcomings.]

Now having established all of that - and this is just petty fandom shit, but I refuse to standby while an injustice is being committed - let’s pivot to another fandom and another show and talk about Black Hat from Villainous.

I need you bitches to be so fucking for real rn, because what do you mean Alastor would beat that man in a fight? Do y’all hear yourselves? Do you hear and recognize the sheer derangement? The delusion?

I’m over-exaggerating for comedic effect, but still.

Didn’t that motherfucker destroy a planet? With a flick of his wrist? Feasibly the only people who could challenge Black Hat would be Lucifer or God. And even if we downscale his power level to just what’s shown in season one of the show (& not what’s in the shorts) Black Hat is still shown to be something of a dual figure and threat on both earth and in the afterlife and implied to be some form of deity-like figure (who’s older than Alastor). Alastor who can’t even travel to Earth as a sinner without outside help from someone more powerful or with an extra relic (so not his own powers). So Black Hat would be at least to the level of the Deadly Sins and completely supersede Overlord status entirely. There’s no way, without using a power boost from someone else’s powers, that Alastor is beating Black Hat, showmanship and conceit be damned.

Anyway, I am once again talking shit like I get paid to do it.