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clock-06 · 2 months ago
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Is it midterms week? Yes. Has the idea and dynamic of Nathalie, Gabriel, and Emilie from Mircaulous, especially as it relates to my fic, just absolutely devoured my every waking thought? Also yes. So at the advice of a friend, I’ve set a thirty minute timer to get all this out on tumblr. I may hit the word limit <3
THEY MAKE ME SICK. I love the complications in the idea behind their relationship.
Quick rundown, Nathalie first falls in love with Emilie when beginning to work for her, and only truly catches feelings for Gabriel when she’s taking care of that pathetic wet rat after Emilie becomes comatose. Emilie is in love with Gabriel, but is more than happy to have multiple people infatuated with her and actively uses Nathalie’s feelings to boost her ego & leads her on (at most they hook up, but it’s probably just a drunk kiss here or there). Gabriel is in love with Emilie, and is begrudgingly ok with Nathalie’s feelings for his wife, especially because it means she’ll be a more loyal worker, and starts to develop feelings for Nathalie when he grants her use of the Peacock miraculous very briefly, and is then wracked with guilt about having feelings for her while Emilie is comatose.
TLDR Emilie is using Nathalie, so is Gabriel until feelings hit him like a truck, and Nathalie puts the Disaster in Bisexual with her horrible taste in people
Both Nathalie and Gabriel are fucking heartbroken and go into deep mourning when Emilie doesn’t wake up. Eventually they lean on each other, but their fangs are both still bared and there’s lots of fights, which lead to them both saying things they regret (ie; “If you hadn’t played with fate and the laws of magic, she’d still be here” from Nathalie and “The only reason I keep you around is because she wouldn’t want me to discard you like the trashy lowlife you are.” from Gabe). They mourn in very different ways, as Nathalie isolates herself and spends a lot of time reminiscing, but Gabriel actively stays in the denial stage for uh. well. forever. you’ve seen the show, if he had accepted losing her he never would’ve become hawkmoth. He also is incredibly irritable and desperate, lashing out at anyone within range. Because he’s constantly erasing Adrien’s memories of this abuse, he gets actively frustrated when he can’t do the same to Nathalie, and she initially buys extra locks for her room so he doesn’t try anything crazy like lobotomizing her (he would).
The locks come off after Gabriel comes to her room, pounding on the door before a very loud thud, at which point she opens her door to find her boss pale and shivering on the floor, eye bags deeper than a sea trench, bleeding aggressively from his hand. She wraps and tends to his wound, and discovers him incredibly feverish and dehydrated. (Nursing back to health enemies to lovers arc!!) After this point Gabriel ends up trusting Nathalie enough to lend her the Peacock miraculous later down the line, but stops cold and snatches it back off her the moment she starts exhibiting symptoms; he’s already lost one woman he’s loved to the damned thing.
Nathalie ends up having underlying chronic health problems (KEEP HER IN THOSE COOL MECHANICAL LEGS OMFG I LOVE THEM), but because she relinquished ownership, the symptoms don’t get any worse.
Gabriel is actively evolving due to his use of the butterfly miraculous, which doesn’t make him a better father to Adrien but DOES make him a better partner to Nathalie because he’s horrible like that <3
While they are kinda romantically affiliated, that doesn’t stop Gabriel from akumatizing her when it’s useful. While some of the times are like in the show, where they’re kinda playful with each other, there’s a time Gabriel goes too far.
Because he’s emotionally distanced from even himself, Gabriel spends his (dead) wife’s birthday waiting for a master akuma to make, and finds it right under his roof in the form of Nathalie, who has been hit hard with grieving. And despite a warning from her, he goes forward with it, and creates [REDACTED]; the akuma I’m most excited to write and design because OMFG this battle is so fun.
Anyways that’s pretty much it.
Nathalie is very Mitski about losing Emilie. And Gabriel’s curiosity-created-the-nuke mad scientist self is more so a caged animal about her. And they find each other through it.
Important thing to keep in mind is that Nathalie is the only healthy component in any of these relationships. Both of these people are incredibly bad for her, but they give her what she craves so she stays.
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zabortseva-liza · 1 year ago
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She’s so gorgeous!
I’m excited for her costume
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peonyfanart · 7 months ago
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Met Akuma🦋
Redesigned akumas as Met Gala outfits💃🏻
Before you ask:
❓ Why the characters look different, Sabine and Rose are shorter, and have different eye colour?
❗ Because they are not the characters. There's no Sabine, Rose, Nathalie, etc. There are models as the akumatisations.
The list of depicted akumas:
Season 1
Lady Wi-Fi, Stormy Weather, Princess Fragrance
Season 2
Reverser, Frightningale, Zombizou
Season 3
Desperada, Party Crasher, Chat Blanc
Season 4
Lies, Quilin, Wishmaker
Season 5
Ryuko mori, Safari, Plastic Queen
Paris Special
Ubiquity, Ladybiquity, Celesticat
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theartofnieriel · 2 years ago
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Nathalie Sancoeur, “Heartbreak”
She emits a silent scream only heard by those who suffered a heartbreak. The scream has the effect of bringing back the feelings the person felt in that moment and has them relive it in a neverending loop.
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reblog, don’t repost. thank you
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starguardianniom · 2 years ago
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Best Miraculous Ladybug antagonist
All choices are perfectly acceptable. I'm honestly torn between the last 3 and Lila, all 4 of them are so great to watch.
Seriously, the akumatized villains are the biggest threats sometimes, Gabriel could be taken down by Nathalie, Lila and Tomoe most likely.
Marinette's greatest foes are her obsession *cough* sorry "love"*cough* of Adrien and her lack of communication with people in general. I swear the main villains could almost just roll their thumbs sometimes while Marinette makes a mistake while blinded by love or fear of not being in control of everything or leads her to also not communicate things that she definitely should or others communicating more their insecurities instead of letting them pile up, and they would win, actually gets them some pretty good victories in the show. Love and Fear for the win in best antagonists!
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chronicallylatetotheparty · 2 years ago
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Ephemeral Shadow Ch. 4: Birds of a Feather
Summary: Mother knows best.
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Nathalie stared at Gabriel's creation with a grim determination.
Adrien's great wings staring through her paper thin mask to the sins beneath. It was unnerving to see that look on his face.
She stepped forward as the Gabriel employees ran from the offices. Wind from the broken window scattering paper about her feet. "What happened?"
"You tell me, Nathalie." Adrien cocked his head as though seeing her clearly for the first time. "What do you think Papa Moth did?"
(continued on ao3)
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raetreaderarts · 1 year ago
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Made a Miraculous Ladybug oc because I watched the movie with my friends and realized I’m extremely in love with Nathalie. I imagine she’s hired to work at the Agreste manor as long as she swears up and down on her life not to go snooping anywhere she shouldn’t be snooping. Maybe one day I’ll make a separate post about her relationships with Gabriel and Nathalie cause that’s a whole story but knowing me I probably won’t lmao
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40cleverways · 2 years ago
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I can't decide whether or not to lineart this so take it while I deliberate.
I saw that screenshot of Nathalie yelling at Gabriella while dying on the train and my brain filled in the gaps SO fast. This is the result. I *still* haven’t seen that episode so this is complete nonsense.
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Also I recognize that it's Felix on the train, but that's not important right now. 🤫
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sillysiluriforme · 6 months ago
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It might be a good idea to make a master post. Also if all the heroes are getting side effects what about the villains? Do they get any?
la terreur au.
in la terreur everyone gets FUCKED and Gabriel and Nathalie are prime examples. for the peacock holders, im going to quote @wisteriasymphony because she put it better than i could (and its her idea):
"alexithymia. Difficulty to identify your own emotions. because all your emotions run high on peacock mode so otherwise you're super emotioned out like the users are kind of emotionless husks from overuse. the mood swings happen while transformed as emotions overload you all at once."
The butterfly creates a link between the holder and those they've akumatized before. the more frequent the akumatizations are, the stronger the link. The holder will, while un-transformed, feel strong emotions or even almost hear other's thoughts.
i wanna make an actual miracle exposure page for them but for now have this
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zoe-oneesama · 6 months ago
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So since Choline is a Sentimonster (Sentiperson is probably a better term) probably created from Nathalie's exasperation over how the Miraculous's had ruined the Agreste family (and possibly some Love for Emilie in there), does that mean she has a generalized "can undo any effect from a Miraculous, good or bad?" power, or is it strictly a "undo negative effects from a Miraculous?"
She specifically heals humans who've experienced adverse effects from using the Miraculous.
She can't, like, heal a person who was turned into a banana by Akumatized Queen Banana.
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fanficriter · 8 months ago
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Adrien Agreste from Miraculous Ladybug with a friend who has bad luck and dodges death almost everyday -🐇 (Bunny Anon)
(Take this request when you want to)
My first emoji anon this is so exciting hello
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Adrien Agreste with an Unlucky! Reader
Warnings - Being held hostage of the Eiffel Tower, canon level activities
Notes - Not the best and probably a bit ooc i havnt watched the show in a while soz!!!
Gender Neutral Reader
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- Oh geez
- Just doesn’t know how you do it
- The way he has to swoop in and save you because you’re once again being targeted by an akumatized villain is beyond him
- Not to mention how he’s always keeping an eye on you at school with the amount of times you’ve almost fallen down the stairs ❤️
- Telling him stories about how you almost died so casually at the lunch table
- “Oh yea i almost got hit by a truck yesterday!”
- “WHAT?”
- He worries for you 😭
- Poor guys always texting you asking if you’re alright
- Learned some first aid from Nathalie just incase
- One time he saw you walk under a ladder and freaked out
- “I read that walking under ladders gives you bad luck, you should look where you’re going!”
- Read that black cats bring bad luck
- Lowkey thinks he might be the problem
- Tells plagg to keep his distance 😭
- Every time a villain has a hostage it’s always you
- Alya’s blog is just filled with you being held off of the eiffel tower by some villain in a funky costume
- “Look! They’re holding someone off that building!
- “Oh geez, not again…”
- When there’s a villain around, he’ll always get you to a hiding spot before transforming
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This definitely is not my best work so sorry it’s like 2 in the morning i’m tired
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kisilinramblings · 19 days ago
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The list of ML S6 episodes title has appeared and it feels like it is the real deal.
I know others have written about it, but here is my analysis and speculations based on the episode title down below.
Enjoy!
601 - Climatiqueen Sounds like Stormy Weather got an upgrade (her french name is Climatika). Nice little nod to the pilot of the previous arc too.
602 - Dessinatriste A nod to "le Dessinateur" (Evillustrator)? With this time the adjective "triste" (sad) included in this new name. Although, it could be a girl character as the name does sound like the feminine form (Dessinatrice).
603 - Sublimation Sublimation is the superpower name of the Rooster, so the episode might be about Marc, but it could also be the name of the olympic themed Akumatized we can see in the S6 sneak peak that was going around. The audio said she is looking for people to be the better version of themselves. Sublime is a word to qualify high morals and esthetic qualities. Could also be a kid-friendly introduction to what Sublimation is in psychanalysis if it has any value left. Sublimation is about transforming impulses into more productive behaviors.
604 - Daddycop Most probably a nod to Rogercop. An episode about Sabrina's relation with her father perhaps? On a side note, the title reminds me of the Daddy Cool song.
605 - Papys Garous Papi (or Papy, both writting are accepted) is a casual and affectionate term for someone to talk about their grandfather. So Papa-Garou (Weredad) but also involving at least Marinette's grandfather. Because Papy is plural here. Does Tom consider himself to be an old man?
606 - Princesse Syren Ondine as Syren is getting an upgrade as well.
607 - El Toro de Piedra Sounds like Ivan will be involved in that one. After all, he has the Ox Miraculous and his akumatization was called Stoneheart. Although the Spanish is new. Perhaps the akumatized will be a relative of Ivan?
608 - Vampigami I think everyone's first thought was seeing Kagami as a Vampire. Is Kagami a fan of either Dracula or the Twilight series? Considering it is canon that she read romance mangas (Glaciator 2), I wouldn't be surprised for the latter. Still, we did have an episode before that did end with "gami" but wasn't about Kagami (Optigami which was a portmanteau of Optic and Origami).
609 - Monsieur Agreste This feels like a follow up to the Gabriel Agreste episode from S4. Is someone pretending to be Gabriel? Or could it be the Adrien's grandparents episode that was hinted by Gloob? Or is Argos involved?
610 - Le Château Noir I know the speculations are about that episode being around Chat Noir, but I am not sure it is a pun with Chat due to the word Château (Castle) keeping its accent. But you know which Medieval Akumatized we had before? Le Chevalier Noir (Dark Blade).
611 - Revelator Not much to go with there. We can expect the Akumatized is a guy and that there is a risk of revealing things. Although, we did have an episode called Revelation which featured Infox (Hoaxer), but I am not sure they could be related. Again, the title doesn't give much to work with.
612 - Psyconductrice A portmanteau of the words Psycho and Conductrice which could either be a female driver or a female conductor. However, ML Paris has turned a page on cars under Mayor Bustier, so it is probably more related to music or leading people.
613 - Yaksi Gozen Obviously, we think of Ikari Gozen and Matagi Gozen (Pretension). So Tomoe will be once again akumatized. I have looked for the name Yaksi and it looks like it is a sanskrit word. The wiki page I've found said they are similar to fairies or nymphs in the hindu culture. Although, I find the use of sanskrit special for Tomoe. As far as a remember, the only other sanskrit name we got was Mayura. So, could it be that either Nathalie or the Peacock Miraculous is involved in that episode as well?
614 - Couchorak Goldorak reference spotted! The other word in that name is Couche. Which actually have several meanings. It could notably be either a diaper, a layer or a bed.
615 - La Redresseuse As a francophone, all I am thinking about is "Dresseur Pokémon" (Pokémon Trainer) ^^; Anyway, something to do with training an animal or correcting bad behaviors. If Sublimation isn't the olympic themed akumatized, then this is my best second guess.
616 - Noe At first glance, all I am thinking about is a negative Zoé. Even though Noé (with an accent) is a boy's name (the French version of Noah). So maybe a new Bourgeois family member? Another possibility, since this is the French episode list is that Noe is a dimunitive for Noël, which is the French name of Nino's little brother.
617 - La Fée de Beaux Rêves Nice little pun there. The actual sentence is "Fais de beaux rêves" (Have Sweet Dreams) but with the word Fée instead of the verb. This seems to align with Pigella's power as well.
618 - Les Crassetastrophes Portmanteau of the words Crasse (filthy, dirty, scum) and Catastrophe (disaster). This one feels like it will be very smelly and disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if this one is about pollution and if so, Polymouse will be involved.
619 - Riginarazione So, we got the words Rigid(?), Regina (either it is the Character name or the word Queen) combined with the word ration in Italian.
620 - Renverse-coeurs Reminds me of Dislocoeur which Dark Cupid's French name. So, we could theorized that Kim would be involved here.
621 - Les Titans Chaînes This one is giving me trouble. even in French because the name isn't a natural combination. It would be more normal to write it up as "Chaînes Titans" instead. "Chaînes" could be literally chains (in the sense of shackles) but in French, the word could also refers to a series of something. Like a mountain range, a production line or food chain, but also a channel (like a TV channel or Youtube channel). I do see the pun with the word "Enchaîne" in the title which either means to align or to shackle. Wasn't there an episode confirmed about influencers? This might be that one. Especially as Titans are not only huge figures, they even had a war in the greek mythology against the Olympian Gods (Titanomachy).
622 - Lady Chaos Honestly, your guess is as good as mine here. Because the ML verse counts a few Lady Something, like Lady Wifi or Lady Dragon, so this title doesn't mean it is about Ladybug directly, but it could be related to her as it is in opposition with what Ladybug does and represents.
623 - Tristanansi Nora is akumatized again and she will be sad this time around.
624 - La Reine de Frayeurville Spooky episode in perspective. Frayeur means Fright. So literally, the Queen of Frightville.
625 - Protocole Secret Feels more like a code name to a project than an akumatized name. My money this is Tomoe's plan.
626 - Nemesis Nothing to add besides that it sounds promising. I wonder what our new Butterfly Holder has in store in that one.
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drtwit · 4 months ago
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Random Fic Idea
Since I've been seeing more people reading this post, just a heads up: the fic has been made.
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You know, we have a lot of 'Villain Chat Noir' AU fics, but is there any that have it be positive?
Like, Adrien getting to work along side his father actually leads to more father/son bonding because their villain identities are both goofy drama queens who finally found something they have in common. As well as both having outlets for the frustration of what they have to pretend to be in their real lives.
In the day time, Gabriel is sitting in his office, lecturing Adrien about upholding the Agreste name and dolling out his strict schedule. By night, Hawkmoth and Chat Noir are hold up in the lair, brainstorming puns and quips while Chat gently tells him to stop akumatizing Mr. Pigeon.
Their version of a fishing trip is stealing from the Dupain Bakery. "We're rich, can't we just pay?" "No, because we're evil." *Chat proceeds to leave money on the counter anyway.*
Gabriel coldly reprimands Adrien for getting anything less than an A, while Hawkmoth akumatizes the teacher who dared give his son a B+.
Ladybug is like 'Oh my god, there's two of them.' as Chat and Hawkmoth synchronise their team rocker-ass intro speeches and Mayura's just shaking her head because she has to live with these two goobers.
Gabriel's making a snobbish speech about those damn hooligans wasting their time with silly shenanigans, all while Adrien's resisting the urge to laugh 'cus Hawkmoth akumatized a baby yesterday and spent half of the fight trying to get the baby to pronounce his name right.
Master Fu wonders what horrors the villains are putting his innocent kwamis through, and it just cuts to Nooroo and Plagg dropping the beat.
Chat: *Starts helping old ladies across the street.* Hawkmoth: I knew that Marinette Dupain Cheng was a bad influence on you!
Adrien in the middle of class having a heart attack as an akuma flies straight into the window trying to get his attention. Adrien: Father, now is not the time! Hawkmoth: I just- I just- I just want to check if Chloe's pissed anyone else off yet. Adrien: Didn't Nathalie say no akumatizing until you finish your paperwork? Hawkmoth: She's not the boss of- Nathalie: Gabriel, I can hear you monologuing from the dining room. You better not be interrupting Adrien's education! Hawkmoth: Gotta go!
Adrien: Father, can you not akumatize one of my friends for five minutes?
Hawkmoth: Young man, what do you think you're doing? Plagg: Don't panic, Kid. Show him who's boss. We don't take grief from anybody. Adrien: I'm r-rebelling, Father. You don't own me! Hawkmoth: I do, however, own all of Plagg's cheese. Plagg: ...Okay, Kid, let's think about this-
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missallanea · 6 months ago
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...come again? Nathalie hadn't been particularly concerned about the appearance of the so-called villain upon their first arrival, but had quickly found herself caught in the middle of everything, and god damn it, she was going to kill him — when as quickly as everything had begun, it ended.
Like nothing.
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"I'm..." confused, and she narrows her eyes a moment before pushing back to her feet. "...fine. Thank you. I... I'm sorry, how did..." A slip of the tongue, and she shakes her head before she can oust herself, by asking how he had done that so simply.
@missallanea liked sc [for nat]
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"It is alright, Miss. You are safe now. I am Hesperia-- rest assured I will assist in vanquishing this villain." He turned, and with a snap of his fingers, the akumatized villain who had been attacking the area stopped and returned to their civilian identity. The butterfly turned from black to white, and fluttered away.
"Are you quite alright?" He turned to face her, flashing a charming smile.
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immaturityofthomasastruc · 1 year ago
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IOTA Reviews: Representation
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Oh, so NOW child abuse is bad. Could have fooled me last episode!
Let's get into the twenty-fifth episode of Miraculous Ladybug's fifth season: Representation
We start off with an English news report recapping the ending of “Revolution”, stating that Ms. Bustier is going to run for mayor, conveniently ignoring her attempted coup in “Collusion”. We also see that Gabriel and Tomoe are still uncomfortably focused on making Adrien and Kagami appear to be a couple in public, much to their dismay. While Kagami is visited by Argos (who once again sneaks up on her, like he usually does), Adrien realizes he can transform into his space form and see Marinette whenever he wants and transforms into Cat Noir, planning to reveal his identity to Marinette. Hey, did he even tell Ladybug about his sudden departure? Because it didn't go well the last time he left Paris without telling her (New York Special).
We then cut to Marinette right after the events of “Revolution”, going to the end of the year dance... even though when we saw Adrien and Kagami in London, the sun was still setting, and France's time zone is only about an hour later, meaning Adrien and Kagami must have flown there at ludicrous speed.
Meanwile, Argos and Kagami somehow got from London to Paris offscreen, and watch Marinette from afar, with Kagami revealing she knows she's Ladybug. They decide to tell Marinette that Felix knows who Monarch is in order to ensure his downfall. Nah, I'm just kidding. Here's the real reason they're coming to Marinette for help.
Kagami: My mother and Gabriel Agreste will never allow us to love each other freely. Only Ladybug can help us.
Yep, rather than prioritize the fact that Gabriel is endangering the citizens of Paris on a daily basis, Kagami is seriously more concerned about her relationship with her boyfriend being tampered with. This is like saying Lex Luthor is evil because he cheats on his taxes. Argos transforms back into Felix, and... oh, for the love of God... he disguises himself as Adrien in order to get closer to Marinette. You can't keep portraying Felix as this master of disguise if he only has ONE disguise!
Marinette sees “Adrien” and assumes he came back from London from her, assuming her boyfriend is much more active that the writers actually believe he is, so she tries to follow him while avoiding the guests at the party. Meanwhile, Gabriel and Tomoe learn their children are gone, so he goes to talk with Nathalie and—why the hell is she like that?
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Seriously, this has never been established as something that happens when someone uses the broken Peacock Miraculous. Why didn't this happen to Emilie? She looks pretty healthy in her little coffin, and I doubt Gabriel is an embalmer.
Anyway, after Nathalie once again reminds us that she hates Gabriel, but not enough to call the cops on him, Gabriel transforms into Monarch and immediately detransforms back in order to akumatize himself into Nightormentor.
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Nightormentor is a pretty average recolor of the Collector's design, which kind of makes sense, considering that Gabriel himself intended the Akuma for himself. The star pattern is okay, but there's not much I can really say. As for his powers, he's just another Sandboy, being able to force people to hallucinate their worse nightmares, only instead of a pillow, his weapon is a staff created from a pen containing the Akuma, with the Horse Miraculous' Voyage to boot. Why he didn't just give himself the same powers he gave Truth when he's trying to find Adrien is anyone's guess.
Cat Noir arrives at the Eiffel Tower to talk with Marinette, just as Nightormentor appears. The two fight, and after a few civilians get caught in the crossfire, Nightormentor escapes through Voyage. As Cat Noir heads to the Dupain-Cheng bakery at the advising of Max, Alya and Nino decide that the totally not useless Resistance should get involved.
While Marinette gives chase, Felix leads her into the school's art classroom, where he transforms into Argos and creates a Sentimonster using Kagami's ring. Felix and Kagami use the Sentimonster's power to do... uh... whatever the hell this is.
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Yeah, this is basically a flashback, but the animators probably blew their budget needed for the new models on Ms. Bustier's baby bump, so we're getting this instead, thanks to the Sentimonster Argos created. There are several scenes of Cat Noir and Nightormentor interspersed, but like what I did with Marinette's flashback in “Derision”, I'll give you the summary before I talk about my problems with this.
When Adrien's mother and aunt, Emilie and Amelie, were born, Emilie (who was born seven seconds early) was trusted with the family heirlooms, the two rings we first saw all the way back in “Felix”. Even though this meant she would inherit the family name, Emilie didn't really like doing... whatever the Graham de Vanily family wanted her to do, but Amelie did. Eventually, while studying abroad, Emilie met Gabriel, and the two fell in love. Before marrying Gabriel, Emilie gave up her role as the sole inheritor of the Graham de Vanily family's vague legacy, while Amelie married a man named Colt to please her parents. Both couples wanted children, but it's heavily implied that Emilie and Amelie were infertile, so their wishes weren't able to come true. Emilie finally managed to get a bun in the oven thanks to the Peacock Miraculous, but this made Colt jealous that he couldn't have a child. Out of the goodness of her heart, Emilie asked Gabriel to give the Peacock Miraculous to Colt, in exchange for letting the Gorilla guard Adrien in the future. Using his own jealousy as a source of power, Colt got Amelie pregnant, though at the cost of his health. Colt figured this was the price he had to pay for using “sorcery”, and used this as an excuse to treat Felix like a monster and ordered him around using the ring containing his Amok. Felix himself was unaware that he wasn't human until Colt accidentally broke the ring (which wasn't one of the two wedding rings used to control Adrien and was an entirely different ring containing Felix's Amok), which he stole as soon as Colt died. This is meant to explain why Felix decided to steal back the Peacock Miraculous, in order to save his life. Felix later met Kagami, and the two explain that they need “Someone like Ladybug” to help them.
Now if your only information about this episode is through my summary, it seems simple enough. For everyone else who actually saw this sequence in the episode itself, I'm guessing your thoughts were about the same as mine.
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Let's go over every problem I have with this scene, starting with...
#1: The Way Kagami and Felix Explain This
Let me just ask something: Why can't Felix just talk to Marinette about what he knows since he now knows she's Ladybug instead of telling her everything through this weird play? You can still tell Marinette all of this without your two-man show. In fact, why did Felix have to wait until he knew Marinette was Ladybug instead of just talking to her the next time he saw her? Yeah, you could argue it's easier this way, but like I've been saying since Season 4, Felix has had no excuse to wait this long to tell Ladybug about the fact that he knows who her greatest enemy is.
And why the hell is it presented this way? Why does Felix have to recontextualize the story of his family's history in the form of a play? Why turn it into a stereotypical fairy tale that leaves out the names of all the important people, like Emilie, Amelie, Colt (whose name I only learned through the transcript of this episode), and Gabriel? If it was like a hidden message Felix and Kagami wanted to convey to Marinette, that would make sense, but why do they have to be so cryptic when they're only putting this show on for one person? You could easily avoid a good chunk of the questions this raises if this was a show Felix and Kagami put on for the public that Marinette was able to learn the information from. Yeah, it still wouldn't explain why Felix can't just tell Marinette about who Gabriel really is, but at least it's something.
The way it all happens kind of reminds me of this scene from this old Halloween special I saw a lot as a kid, Scary Godmother: Halloween Spooktacular. In that scene, some of the kids act out a scene of this little girl's parents entrusting her with a flashlight to explain why she carries it around, in order to scare off any monsters she runs into, using the graveyard they were in as a makeshift set. This scene works a lot more because it's done in more of a tongue-in-cheek way, with some of the kids breaking character to boost their own egos (for example, the kid playing the mom comments about how responsible she is), and how one kid in particular gradually gets fed up with the whole thing. The scene does its job at delivering exposition in a way that isn't meant to be taken too seriously, and it's clear this is being done by some kids goofing around in-universe.
With this episode, it's clear that the writers want the audience to take this whole backstory seriously in spite of how absurd it all is. Seriously look at this.
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We are seriously expected to take this backstory seriously when it looks like some theater major's midterm project. The animators want it to look artsy and unique for the sake of making it look artsy and unique. Why does it look like a play these two put together themselves if they're supposedly using a Sentimonster's power to do it? If the unnamed Sentimonster's powers is how Marinette is seeing all this, why can't it actually be seen as a flashback? Was it always intended to be a handmade play that was changed to the product of a Sentimonster at the last minute?
I get that the animators probably wanted kids to pick up on the visuals of the play, but even then, it makes it hard to really stomach the serious themes this backstory brings up, like infertility and child abuse, with the way they're presented. Not only do Felix and Kagami all play the characters using these white jumpsuits and masks, they also do all the voices, meaning that the only “dialogue” we hear from Colt is delivered by Kagami putting on a deeper voice. Let me repeat that: the only times we hear Colt, the abusive parent and all around garbage human being, talk, it's done by a teenage girl trying to make her voice sound deeper.
But hey, maybe the goofy voice will be overshadowed by the nuanced depiction of child abuse, right? Right?
#2: The Portrayal of Colt and the Double Standards Regarding His Treatment of Felix
I have never seen a single show struggle this much to convey a lesson as simple as “Child abuse is bad”.
When it comes to the parents in this show, terrible parents like Gabriel, Audrey, and Tomoe are almost never held accountable for the way they treated their children. If the writers aren't claiming they really love their children deep down, they're either downplaying how cruel they are at best or playing their behavior for laughs at worst. But here we are, the penultimate episode of the fifth season, and we finally have a parent who is unambiguously treated as a terrible human being with no redeeming qualities... and I still have problems with this.
This flashback really goes out of its way to let the audience that Colt was a real piece of scum in life. He only wanted a child out of jealousy, used his Amok to force Felix to do whatever he wanted, was heavily implied to have physically beat him at times, and blamed him for his poor health on his deathbed when he was the one who wanted to use the Peacock in the first place. Now that I think about it, why did Colt even use the Peacock to create Felix instead of Emelie? Was the episode so determined to paint Colt as a bastard that he wanted to be the one to create Felix himself?
The point I'm trying to make is that the show doesn't really explain why Colt was like this. Why was he such an angry man who treated his only child like crap? I don't know, because all the show's telling me is that he was just a dick. He honestly feels more like a caricature than anything else. He's only as terrible of a person he is in order to make the audience sympathize with Felix. I'm not saying that what Felix went through was okay, but it has the same energy as scenes of Gabriel talking to Emilie's body. It's mostly there to make the audience sympathize with an antagonistic character in spite of all the things they've done.
What's really weird is that even though the whole point of this play is so Felix can tell Marinette Gabriel is Monarch, so what does Colt have to do with this? I'm not saying he's not worth mentioning, but it makes no sense for Felix to tell Marinette about his abusive father before he tells her about Gabriel. It feels more like Felix wants to find a way to excuse his actions before telling Marinette about Gabriel being Monarch. And remember when “Derision” made a big deal about Chloe's terrible parents not excusing her actions? Funny how that conveniently doesn't apply to Felix in this episode.
In fact, let's talk about the elephant in the room: The fact that this episode aired right after “Revolution”, an episode that literally said a character living under an abusive and controlling parent was a fitting punishment for her. HOW THE HELL IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT FROM THAT? If anything, this episode really shows the double standards this show has about child abuse, how the only way your situation can be taken seriously is if you're a “good victim”. Chloe's a “bad victim”, so she doesn't get any sympathy when her mother outright says she's going to take control of her life, yet when Colt actually takes control of Felix's life, we're supposed to sympathize with him now. Why am I supposed to feel bad for Felix now when you just told me I shouldn't feel bad for someone in a similar situation last episode?
In fact, one theory I have about this backstory is that it was intended to kill two birds with one stone, no pun intended. I believe that this episode wasn't just written to give us more insight into who Felix is as a character, but also to show the audience what “real” child abuse is like. As far as the show is concerned with Gabriel, Audrey, and Tomoe? They're not actually abusive parents, Colt is, so you should condemn his actions, and not those three. It's blatant double standards, which is nothing new for this show.
#3: The Way Amelie Just... Lets This All Happen
In my “Derision” review, I discussed how strange it was that so many people in Marinette's life did nothing to help her against Chloe, and the same thing applies here with Amelie.
This episode never really explains where Amelie was when Colt was abusing Felix, much less if she was even aware of it. At least with Marinette's parents, they didn't know because most of Marinette's suffering was at school. Amelie lives with Felix and Colt, so what's her excuse? She seriously didn't overhear Colt yelling at Felix or notice the orders Colt gave Felix? Was she just that ignorant to her child's suffering? Remember, this is supposed to be Felix's good parent.
In fact, does Amelie even know Felix is a Sentimonster? Yeah, “Emotion” established that Amelie knows Felix is Argos, but this episode doesn't really make it clear if she knows Felix is a Sentimonster or not. If it was clear Amelie knew nothing about what Felix really was, it would arguably make things easier to stomach, as she wouldn't know the power Colt had over him.
Instead, even though she's Felix's mother, the show doesn't really explain what she actually did when Colt was making Felix's life a living hell, especially since the flashback says that Amelie was forced to marry Colt, so you can't even say she was blinded by love here. Hell, I'm not even sure if Amelie knew the cause of Colt's untimely passing.
#4:This Doesn’t Really Do Much to Explain Felix’s Actions
Now before you say I'm being insensitive, let me make one thing clear: My issue isn't with the fact that this was done to get the audience to sympathize with Felix. The problem I have is that the backstory doesn't do enough to explain why Felix did the things he did.
Okay, Felix wants the Peacock Miraculous. Understandable, he doesn't want to die, so he has to do morally questionable things to preserve his life like betraying the only person capable of stopping the man who can kill him. What's less understandable is his plan to get the Peacock Miraculous from Gabriel. You'll notice that the backstory didn't mention Felix's first appearance, where he only stole the rings belonging to Amelie's family, and he didn't even think to look for the Peacock. Instead, it cuts from Felix realizing he's a Sentimonster to him striking a deal with Gabriel, not even mentioning that he gave Gabriel back one of the rings as part of the deal, which still makes no sense.
If Felix's goal from the start was to get the Peacock Miraculous, why did he bother stealing all of Marinette's Miraculous as a bargaining chip for the deal instead of the family ring? In fact, why did Felix even steal the ring and wait an entire season to trade it back to Gabriel for the Peacock a season later? And for someone who claims to care about Adrien, he really didn't see anything wrong with giving Gabriel one of the two rings capable of overriding his free will.
As a matter of fact, why the hell is Felix even so hostile towards Adrien? Why did he go out of his way to smear his reputation in his debut episode if all he wanted to do was make a bargain with Hawkmoth? In “Risk”, he mocked Adrien for how he talked, while Adrien himself was aware of how he made him look bad in front of his friends, and that's not even getting into how he made himself look like Adrien as part of his plan to betray Ladybug, which would have screwed him even more if Adrien wasn't already Cat Noir. For someone who claims he wants to protect him from Gabriel, Felix really doesn't care about his cousin all that much.
In fact, why does Felix even hate Gabriel at all? The show hinted that the two had a history, yet during the backstory, which I need to remind you, was told from Felix's perspective on the events, has a surprisingly generous portrayal of Gabriel. Did Felix know Gabriel was Hawkmoth/Shadowmoth/Monarch during his first appearance? Does Felix blame Gabriel for how Colt treated him growing up? Does Felix hate Gabriel for how he treats Adrien? Did Gabriel intend to get Colt sick in the first place? Seriously, what is Felix's deal with Gabriel?!
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How does a flashback organized by Felix himself do nothing to really explain why he did the things he did?
#5: The Fact That There Are STILL Several Unanswered Questions Here
For something meant to fill the audience in on several important topics, there are still so many questions about the history of the Agreste and Graham de Vanily families.
Other than the vague backstory about them being rich, we still know nothing about Emilie and Amelie other than them being rich and possibly infertile. We don't know if Amelie ever loved Colt, if she knew he was abusing Felix, or if she even knew if he used the Peacock to play god.
On a related note, why did Emilie and Gabriel decide to use the Peacock Miraculous to create a son instead of adopting? Scratch that, why did she specifically create a Sentimonster to give birth to like a normal baby? Was there some kind of Macbeth-esque guideline that Emilie had to give birth to a child in order for said child to get the inheritance? Did she use the ring to control Adrien like Gabriel does now? Seriously, this is the character the show's conflict is all based around, and we still know nothing about her other than the fact that she was nice.
This flashback just makes no sense, and is such a stupid and confusing way to deliver exposition.
Anyway, during all this, Cat Noir and Nightormentor are fighting, and for the third time this season, Cat Noir attempts to Cataclysm him someone, even when he had Nightormentor pinned down. Nightormentor breaks free and hits Cat Noir with his magic dust, causing him to hallucinate... Cat Blanc?
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Yeah, the script calls this form “Anticat”, but given how it looks like a reused Cat Blanc model coupled with the petrified people of Paris, this is clearly meant to bring Cat Blanc to mind. The problem is that NEITHER CAT NOIR OR NIGHTORMENTOR KNOW ABOUT THAT. Why would you remind audiences about an Akuma that technically never existed?
Better yet, is this what Cat Noir trying to his Cataclysm on people this past season (Destruction, Jubilation, Derision) has been building up to? The fear that he'll lose control? You could have fooled me, as he never really showed that much remorse for almost hurting people other than Monarch. Yeah, you could argue that because Nightormentor based his hallucinations off his victims' worst fears, but again, this fear had little to no buildup this season because Cat Noir never felt any guilt for Cataclysming Monarch after “Destruction”, and whenever tried to use his Cataclysm on other people, Cat Noir never really realized the weight of his actions. If you want to make a character arc about Cat Noir worrying about hurting people with his powers, go more into the guilt he feels for hurting Monarch and using that guilt to affect his actions. Don't just use some “Cat Blanc” nostalgia bait to convince the audience that there's been a character arc.
Nightormentor takes advantage of Cat Noir's emotional state to get his Miraculous, only for the Resistance to save Cat Noir by... throwing stuff at him. And this is how they defeat him. While Nino, Alya, Ivan, and Zoe distract Nightormentor, Kim and Max help Cat Noir focus, Cat Noir Cataclysms Nightormentor's baton.
Zoe traps the Akuma in a jar, Cat Noir doesn't take it, he heads off to detransform and confess to Marinette, only for the hallucination to still affect him since Ladybug didn't use Miraculous Ladybug to fix the damage, and even though he knows it's just a hallucination, he still uses it as a reason to not reveal his identity to Marinette, even after Ladybug de-evilizes the Akuma herself.
The episode ends with Gabriel and Tomoe locking Adrien and Kagami in these white rooms while under heavy surveillance to ensure they won't escape, vowing to start “Operation: Perfect Alliance”. Because these two like using the word “perfect” more than they like subjecting their children to what one of my anons referred to as “white torture”.
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Because that's a good way to keep your children under control: psychological torment.
Other than the stuff with Felix and Kagami, this episode was pretty dull.
There's just not much I can really say here. The plot was barebones, all Marinette did was listen to Felix and Kagami's story so the writers didn't have to involve any of them in the main conflict, and even Cat Noir confronting his akumatized father doesn't have a lot of weight to it because towards the end, it focuses more on Adrien's nightmare instead of his relationship with his father.
This episode is nothing more than a prologue for the final battle. It's only here to establish Adrien and Kagami's presence in London, Marinette learning Gabriel is Monarch, and even more setup for Gabriel and Tomoe's final plan. And trust me, the buildup will be far from worth it.
THE BIGGEST IDIOT OF THE EPISODE IS... FELIX
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It's amazing. The only time this season Felix goes out of his way to actually help Ladybug, and he still screws it up. He abducted Kagami from her hotel in London without thinking of Tomoe hunting him down again when that was the entire plot of “Pretension”, only decided to tell Marinette he knows who Monarch is because he's getting in the way of his relationship with his girlfriend, did so in an unnecessarily convoluted way, and even though he made a big deal about not wanting to use Sentimonsters in his last appearance, he still used one to tell Marinette his life story instead of just saying “My uncle is Monarch”.
And if you think Felix will get a chance to truly redeem himself in the finale, think again, bucko. Other than a brief cameo, this is the last thing he'll do this season. Aren't you glad the writers made this character prominent for seven episodes over three seasons and did nothing else with him?
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bigfatbreak · 2 years ago
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"Villains AU" I need to know more. Please!
short n ruff bc i have to go to bed: TDLR: a switcharoo from me to you
AU where Gabe gets the LB and CN miraculous, makes his miracle wish, but the cost is a bit... scrambled. Marinette and Adrien get the butterfly and peacock miraculous, and though Emelie is alive, Nathalie is now in a coma and Emelie is the one pushing the envelope on how to bring her back, in spite of Gabe being there - however, the rules of the miracle wish change every time reality is shifted.
Now, wishes can only be granted with the butterfly and peacock, soul and body, respectively. Tikki and Plagg's miraculous can't withstand another wish, and so the blessing goes to another pair.
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since Adrien has the peacock miraculous, he successfully retrieved his own amok and has it sealed somewhere safe. (with Marinette.)
though the butterfly miraculous has its own stipulations and downsides now, it makes Marinette's akumas are much stronger than Hawkmoth's, and are more evasive; IE, they don't flutter around uselessly once you break the akumatized object, they're fucking going street-smarts zigzag style and will actively divebomb away
Marinette and Adrien know each other's identities, but with their last timeline nuked, their shared intimacy initially comes from a place of shared trauma. they have to work through that later.
Emelie is super bi for Nathalie and Gabriel doesn't know how to feel about being second fiddle lol
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