#ace/lister

[ocean--grey]

I really like the idea of Dimension Jump kind of acting as a “catalyst” for eventual Rimster.

Ace and Lister were so close and friendly with each other in that episode (such as with their nicknames, Ace singing Rastabilly Skank with Lister, etc.), and Lister genuinely liked spending time with and talking to him. If they genuinely hooked up during that episode, I think that would be the prompt for Lister to realise he may have positive feelings for Rimmer (rather than just hate and irritation).

In a way, I’m imagining Lister crushing on Ace, and when the feelings are reciprocated, him realising that when Ace leaves he’s going to be on a spaceship with Rimmer and a LOT of unresolved feelings.

[the-golden-oath]

Stroke Me a Skipper

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Summary: Lister doesn’t want Ace to leave. Not just yet.

Words: 3,757

Chapters: 1/1

Rating: Explicit

Archive Warning: No Archive Warnings Apply

Category: M/M

Fandom: Red Dwarf (UK TV)

Relationships: Dave Lister/Ace Rimmer, Dave Lister/Arnold Rimmer

Characters: Dave Lister, Ace Rimmer

Additional Tags: Episode: s04e05 Dimension Jump (Red Dwarf), just guys being dudes, Cigarettes, Shotgunning, Hand Jobs, Rimmer’s not in this but Lister thinks about him almost constantly, one instance of fag used in the gay way and several in the cigarette way, listy does not stop thinking about dear ol’ rimsy the entire time, I cannot stress this enough, no beta I’ll be back for breakfast

[o-bromio]

Red Dwarf as text posts part 4

(part 1) (part 2) (part 3)

[odo-apologist]

"I can fix him" "I can make him worse" yeah well I can encourage him to take on the identity of an idealized version of himself and leave everything he ever knew behind including me

[theodorasbistuff]

I did a thing.

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Edit:

Image description: a photo of a cross stitch. blue letters read 'Smoke Me a Kipper, I'll Be Back For Breakfast.' to the left of the text is a herring flicking its tail. end ID

(ID courtesy of @what--the-helliot)

[red-wop]

Guys, I know we've all watched Dimension Jump and gone "God, Lister is so starstruck with Ace" but theres a moment which I'm not sure I've seen anyone comment on from Rimmer and Lister's conversation at the end of the episode:

And I'm probably reading too much into everything but the moment where Lister pauses, to me at least, looks so much like he genuinely considered Rimmer's statement for a moment before realising that it's just another version of Rimmer he just imagined that with. And it's Rimmer, the person he's told himself that he really shouldn't like and who he knows probably really doesn't like him either. But yet he's just momentarily imagined getting married to some version of him anyway.

It's also the breath he takes which my over analysing brain has gone and taken as a steadying himself breath from that thought of marrying Ace.

And also, you can only just tell, but just before he begins to speak it almost looks like he was intending to say something else?? Before then realising that he needed to actually respond to Rimmer.

ALSO! He never denies any of the stuff Rimmer says about him and Ace, it's always just a subtle change in topic like "I don't understand your attitude Rimmer, he's you". It's more like he's responding to Rimmer's general and more intense snideyness towards and about Ace instead of the claim that Lister and Ace could be together, very subtly avoiding the topic

ANYWAY, tee hee I love over analysing things which were almost certainly not intentional by actors. The pause and breath could very well just be Lister being shocked that Rimmer's being quite so jealous about Ace

Idk lol

[itsfuntobeavampiree]

[grimlers]

Some red dwarf posting..

[divinity-in-chaos]

Thinking about Rimmer and he is the most character to ever character, huh?

He’s an asshole. He has a crush on Jesus yet is not Christian. He makes most things worse for himself and blames everyone else. He’s a coward. He’s rude and unfriendly, yet still makes that fucking heartfelt sandwich speech. He once lived with a clone of himself and drove himself to move out because he couldn’t stand it. He’s autistic. He severely hates himself yet has a massive ego. He literally almost killed himself through a being that was born from his own self-loathing. He’s so deeply in the closet that he’s misogynistic. He’s canonically asexual and has only had sex once for 12 minutes before he died. He has been dead for 3 million years and is entirely composed of light and machinery. He gets uncomfortable when his female self flirts with him. He has failed the same exam over 11 times. He has cross-dressed. He absolutely can’t stand his alter ego even though everyone else loves him. He’s been bought back to life and he kneed death in the nuts when he was about to die again. His first kiss was his uncle who woke him up snogging him thinking he was his mother. He claims to be unable to stand his roommate but has been living in close quarters with him for 30 odd years. Oh and best of all: he committed genocide which killed everyone on his ship as well as himself- and it was an accident.

[iiep-wop]

YALL IM FINALLY OUT OF MY EDIT BURNOUT!!!!

Anyway Dave Lister everyone!!

[haventacluewhatimdoing]

Just watched Stoke Me A Clipper for the first time and I am FEELING things. The first 2 eps of s7 are the first ones where there's no real animosity between Lister and Rimmer at all - the odd friendly insult but really not much more. The genuine animosity of the earlier series slowly evaporates series by series, but by s7 it has GONE. Rimmer's smug expression when Lister ate the guy in Dallas is testament to that - he finds a laugh and a tease, but he actually barely mentions it, something that NEVER would have happened in s1. And the whole Lister training Rimmer is just so sweet and wholesome, and Lister would never have done that back in s1. There's just so many tender and loving moments between those two where you can see they care for one another, and just as I settle into their first proper friendship dynamic, Rimmer goes and LEAVES. Not to mention that final hug broke me just a little bit. But Rimmer bares his soul to Lister when they're standing by the railings, something he would have rather died than do even a series or two ago without being spectacularly drunk. They really do get on now and I'm crushed that that dynamic has been scuppered by Rimmer leaving (which I always knew was coming, but was still a bummer). BUT I haven't seen any of the rest of s7 yet, so I'm interested to see where it goes!

[therimmerexperience]

Smegtober- Day 7 (Sacrifice)

“I need to go home,” Ace, Rimmer, told Wildfire, his voice nasal and whiny; he was ready to be himself again. 

“As you wish,” replied the disembodied voice from the cockpit, her tone, as always, indifferent and cold. She scanned her dimensional records with a beep. 

Rimmer's eyes widened in disbelief as he laughed bitterly, “it was that easy? You could have taken the others home at any time too?” 

“Yes, Arnold,” she replied, still indifferent. 

“Why?” He tore the wig from his head, tossing it to the arm of his chair and missing. He left it on the ground.

“Why what?” 

“Why did you never take any of the others back?” He glowered at Wildfire's control panel as if she could see him, as if she had the capacity to care. If he had known, if any of them had known, that they could have just asked to go home, the Ace Rimmer grave planet would be a ring system short of a war memorial. 

“They never asked,” she, once again, answered plainly.

Rimmer shook his head, opening his mouth though the strained feeling in the back of his throat prevented anything from escaping. Eventually, he gave up. Lecturing an unemotional machine on human decency seemed redundant. He felt foolish for even getting upset at her. 

“Just take me home.” He finally relented. 

Wildfire buzzed, a swell of blue expanding in the ink before them and swallowing them whole, spitting them back out in a similar blotchy scene, speckled with stars, only with one major difference; a large spacecraft hung in the sky to the right of Wildfire, dusty rouge and just as tasteless and magnificent as he remembered it. It was home. 

Boarding the dwarf, stepping, for the first time in decades, onto the landing bay, he was greeted by Kryten first, the rest of the crew behind him, his head wider and his body a brighter shade of silver than before. He had aged. Could mechanoids age? Rimmer pushed away the thought. It made him feel old. 

“Mr Ace!” he gushed, a veil of perplexion shrouding his features while his eyes scanned the wig pressed curls on Rimmer’s head. A smug, knowing smile tugged at Lister’s cheeks, the creases around his mouth deeper than Rimmer remembered, his eyes lined, crows feet forming in the corners. He pulled him into a tight hug, much like when he had first left though Lister definitely felt softer.  Rimmer supposed time had done the same to him too.

Red Dwarf itself had changed. Rimmer had noted all of the small differences mentally while on his way to Lister’s room: hallways seemingly stretched further, the ceilings panels no longer resembled styrofoam and he could have sworn there never used to be that many elevators. He wondered if the diesel desks had changed. His next spontaneous getaway the next time someone fell ill would surely be more interesting than the time Lister contracted space mumps- for one, he had an actual body now. 

 Looking around, Rimmer felt like he was in a funhouse, the room distorted compared to the one in his memory; he was still trying to wrap his head around the nanobot resurrection, let alone the changes the resurrection had caused; since when were bunkrooms that big?  It was remarkable how pleasantly sized beds were supposed to be before the JMC budget cuts. He shrugged off his hideous silver flight jacket, throwing it out into the middle of the room and watching it dissolve into light before it hit the floor. 

“So,” he turned to Lister, who was slumped in a chair by the table, “Where did the other me go? The one who was resurrected.”

“He’s hiding,” The scouser chucked, “down in the cargo decks. I think he’s scared you're here to replace him.”

Rimmer settled in the chair opposite Lister’s, resting his hands lackadaisically on the surface in front of him and shooting him a playfully suspicious glance, “and why would he think that?”

“Because that's what I told him,” He grinned idiotically, much like he used to back in his twenties, “It’s not my fault he believed me.”

Rimmer couldn't help but smile in return, “I was never that much of a tremendous coward, was I?”

“Well, he is only human.”

They stewed in silence for a moment. Considering his next words carefully before he let them tumble from his tongue, Rimmer pressed his mouth into a straight line, his brow creasing. He watched his former crewmate tap anxiously on the metal tabletop expectantly for a while. 

“He won't want to take Wildfire,” Lister beat him to it, still tapping, “I think he's worse than you were.”

Rimmer nodded; he knew exactly what he had meant by ‘worse’; he was less adjusted, more cowardly, meaner and so much more bitter- all of the things that made Rimmer 'worse’ than most other people. A hand slid over the top of one of Rimmer's, brushing its thumb over his reassuringly and squeezing it lightly. Lister’s eyes met his, unchanged, still the same shade of brown they always had been: a sickly sweet hue of honey.

“I don’t want to leave,” the hologram admitted sheepishly, withdrawing his hands, “I’ve been Ace too long, Listy. Longer than any other Rimmer.”

“I’m sure I can convince him to give it a go,” he winked, “I’ve done it before.”

—-

Rimmer climbed into the cockpit of Wildfire, gaudy, senset blonde wig askew and flight jacket rubbing the wrong way on his skin; he wasn't ready. He waved to the man who looked just like him, who saluted in return, the H on his forehead shimmering in the light of the landing bay. Lister smiled thankfully, a semblance of guilt on the curl of his lips. How could Rimmer have said no? It wasn't as though he truly belonged here. He was merely a spare part.

“Come on, old love,” Nano-Rimmer prompted Wildfire in an Ace impersonation, still yet to be perfected, “We better be off.”

[a-literal-toaster-wtf]

anyone ever think about how collectively the aces ultimate goal is to die because . boy do i

[thatsnoneofurdamnbiz]

they're so tragic ugh 😖😖

[astralbondpro]

Red Dwarf // S07E02: Stoke Me a Clipper

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