#YouTubeDrama

[cherrytea556]

Hey everyone, I uploaded Mamamax's shitty apology video in case it gets deleted later on internet archive, Idk i just think cases like him needs preserving

[news-of-news]

Karolina Goswami Claims Threats from Dhruv Rathee Fans; Sends Strong Message

YouTuber Karolina Goswami, who has a channel called "India in Details," recently shared a video on Instagram. In the video, she is walking with two security guards in India. The message says, "We won't be scared. We will keep living in India, no matter what." This comes after she says she was threatened by fans of another YouTuber, Dhruv Rathee.

#KarolinaGoswami #DhruvRathee #YouTubeCommunity #KarolinaGoswami #DhruvRathee #YouTubeDrama #IndiaInDetails #YouTubeControversy #SocialMedia #SupportCreators #FreedomOfSpeech #OnlineHarassment

[fitness-trending-content]

The iilluminaughtii Situation Somehow Got Worse Than Ever 🎥📱💰 https://newsinfitness.com/the-iilluminaughtii-situation-somehow-got-worse-than-ever/

[edgepunk]

Rosanna has been on that hater grind for about a year and now she's going all in

[uncommonsunlight]

Holy shit this situation is so unreal. Someone posted the patreon letter on reddit and guess what? PATRONS GET SCREWED TOO.

so people who were already giving these guys a minimum $5 a month are now getting downgraded content AND being asked to subscribe for regular content too! What a fucking set of balls on the watcher team!

here is the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1c7yxmq/comment/l0c3fu2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I also saved a copy in case it gets removed because WOW. For them to shaft us plebes is one thing. But for them to shaft the real ones, who were putting their faith and money in their company already? (/s obviously no one should be shafted and yet...) WHOMST thought this was a good idea???

ALSO I just found out that by the time I joined the circus they had walked it back but apparently ALL their videos were privated this morning and the intent WAS to remove content from youtube until the backlash started.

AND Steven Lim is being incredibly salty and rude about it on instagram because he doesn't like how many people watching them aren't rich and fuck us I guess. FUCK these clowns. eta: Steven Lim's post has nothing outrageous in it, other than marketing. People are making things up in the comments of the various posts. Someone is claiming a cat account is the social media manager and other off the rails things. It's easy to get riled up in this kind of drama but I don't want to spread false information.

Also Steven may have been spearheading this idea, but the other two owners of the company had to agree. As I'm reading more threads I'm seeing a pattern and I don't like this piling on one guy just because he isn't a ghoul boy. Be fair, they all pulled that gold-flaked lever together.

[purpledemonlilyposting]

Thoughts on this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1glw2qf/courtney_peet_lily_orchards_sister_calls_out/

Honestly lots of nuanced perspectives on the situation. I think alot of people have it right: someone like me, or Anthony or Crim really have nothing to add to the conversation about Lily's accusations. I reference them but I'm not qualified in any sense of the word to handle something like that in depth.

Like I said on last night's stream I got no bad blood with Courtney from my end and I'd be happy to help her get the attention of Swoop who I believe does excellent work and would be the absolute best person to cover Lily's allegations.

She's a survivor, a great researcher, a talented documentarian and her catchphrase is: it's not drama, it's dangerous.

[chaifootsteps]

Hey not sure if you’ll remember this, but I’m the anon who mentioned posting sources discussing Vivziepop’s abusive behavior on r/YouTube youtubedrama and having people rush to her defense. Well guess what? A day later my account was SUSPENDED because fans mass reported me. Fans will literally suppress anyone who brings Vivziepop’s behavior to light.

Because deep down (or maybe not so deep down), they know damn well it's true, and are afraid that an abusive person suffering some measure of consequence will cost them their precious cartoon show.

[blackgryph0n]

BillieBustUp: A Boycott?

Hazbin Hotel is implicated, too.

cw: child grooming

Short version: BillieBustUp hired a known child groomer Blackgryph0n/Gabriel C. Brown, and the lead dev Katie Nelson is digging in their heels defending him, claiming that the groomer says he's innocent, and the "haters" are all sockpuppets for his wife/victim's abusive father. The evidence against him is piling up, and it seems like BillieBustUp, a game founded on LGBTQIA and disability representation, will instead be the face of uplifting pedophilia and child grooming. Gabriel is also the voice actor for Hazbin Hotel's Alastor, but only his singing role in the pilot, the song "Insane" which has risen to some popularity.

On June 14, 2024, Twitter user dagobbiEST posted a Twitter thread that implicated the creator of BillieBustUp, an upcoming indie game helmed by Katie Nelson/KatieBlueprint, in defending the actions of the voice actor Blackgryph0n, aka Gabriel C. Brown, who voices the character Barnaby. For those who were present in the My Little Pony fandom during 2014, you will know BlackGryph0n best either for his videos or perhaps for his most infamous accomplishment, which was creeping out many fans with his overly-familiar relationship with voice actress Michelle Creber, who was 14 to his 24.

Blackgryph0n went on to groom and subsequently marry Claire Corlett, Michelle's coworker and friend (and fellow 14 year old) when she turned 20, who was then isolated from her entire family, citing abuse. (The author does not deny that she may have been abused; it is typical for a groomer to pursue a minor who has a strained/difficult family situation.)

The facts are simple: Gabriel met Claire when she was a child, only 14/15, in a position of authority over her as a sound engineer at her voice acting job. The fact that they then later pursued a relationship, even if "she initiated it", implies that there was grooming taking place over the years in between. The groundwork of a relationship was built with a minor, even if it was not overtly romantic until later. For more information on grooming, please see here.

Scads of screencaps were rapidly produced on Twitter after the initial screencaps of the BillieBustUp Discord were posted, including many tweets with proof of Blackgryph0n's inappropriate flirting with the child actresses back to when they were 15 and 16. Gabe's claims that they "became friends only four years ago" (conveniently when she was 20) were quickly debunked as lies, due to all of the overwhelming Tweet and video evidence.

A list of links with more information:

A gathering of some of the most damning tweeted evidence to dispute the "only befriended her when she was 20" claim by Gabe.

A Reddit thread from r/YouTubeDrama concerning the recent allegations and firsthand witnesses to creepy behavior at conventions. Key quote:

"To provide some context, Gabriel knew them from that age because of his work. He is the only notable brony who concurrently worked on the show, though only peripherally as a backup voice/sound engineer for the sound and music team. However, he was around early on, and thus had access to FiM's voice actors, including the then-child VAs of the Cutie Mark Crusaders (Sweetie Belle (Creber), Apple Bloom, and Scootaloo). That's why he knew her from that young age, because his job provided him the opportunity to engage with those teenagers—to a professional limit, but he took it further than that with at least 2 of them." (d_shadowspectre3, who misidentified Creber - Creber voiced Apple Bloom, and Corlett voiced Sweetie Belle)

An informational Twitter thread from 2023 by BronyFandont discussing the grooming with more screencapped evidence.

A google doc of various screenshots, including a first-person witness to Gabriel's inappropriate behavior at a Brony con.

A Twitter thread with eight screencaps debunking the timeline Blackgryph0n tries to lie about, claiming he only met Corlett for extended periods when she was 20.

A Twitter thread by user Wootmaster discussing the allegations back in 2022, in which he adds that several big fandom names - including Saberspark, ACRacebeast and PaleoSteno - closed ranks and defended Blackgryph0n at the time, including leveling harassment at Corlett's father. Saberspark coined the deeply unsettling "It's creepy, but legal" in regards to the situation.

Some of Gabriel Brown's previous brushes with racism also came into discussion, including

A full blown minstrel skit with Michelle Creber (a minor at the time) with giant afro wigs, blaccents, and the fake names "Nikisha Abagale Safron" and "Latoya Aloofa Williamson", posted by ACRacebeast under the title "Bronies React: MLP Generation 3."

Another Twitter thread with screencaps of Gabriel Brown's racism by Helluvareceipts.

Screencaps of the BillieBustUp discord, with clumsy defenses by Katie Nelson in lieu of any official statement.

More of Gabriel's racist and C*vid-denial tweet "likes" have been dug up.

A deleted racist tweet from Blackgryph0n.

A Twitter screencap of Blackgryph0n getting banned from Babscon due to racism in 2021.

During the uproar, BillieBustUp and lead dev Katie Nelson remained notably silent, which resulted in a Tweet about the game's LGBTQIA representation devolving into repeated demands for answers, which were also ignored.

There was an unofficial statement made only on the BillieBustUp Discord group on June 15th, but it wouldn't be until June 17 that an official "rebuttal" was posted on Google Docs by "Katie and Ash". The entirety of the rebuttal can be summed up with 'Blackgryph0n says he's being targeted by sockpuppet accounts and promises he's innocent, and I believe him.'

June 17 also saw a very strange, inappropriate, and immature response from Michelle Creber, peppered with "Y'all"s, emojis, and inappropriately casual slang like "take the L," considering the seriousness of the allegations. She not only stated that Gabriel Brown (a member of the US Navy) is an "incredibly brilliant but brilliant autistic bean" and thus so harmless he wouldn't hurt a spider, which errs so far on the side of infantilization it seems insulting at best, and ableist at worst. Any Twitter accounts that requested clarification or answers were blocked by both Creber and Brown.

What does this mean for you?

What this means is that the BillieBustUp and Hazbin Hotel fandoms now have to contend with the fact that their creators have knowingly and purposefully invited a child groomer into their fandoms, and given them social cachet that they might use to take advantage of minors, as he did during his job as a sound engineer on My Little Pony. The BBU dev team is also ignoring any concerns about a potential threat. This may also mean that, if there are inevitable fandom events like panels, the child groomer Gabriel C. Brown may be present where there are also children and teens, who may not be aware of his history.

The decision of whether to boycott or not is your decision; I cannot in good conscience spend money on a game that will put money into a groomer's pockets and add to his resume. The decision is yours. This post is to shine light onto what the BillieBustUp team and Blackgryph0n/Gabriel Brown desperately want to keep in the dark, and to spread awareness to other social media platforms. And, most importantly, to protect any minors who might be in these fandoms, who may not realize that their idols are not someone they should look up to, defend, or even be in private contact with.

Stay safe, and thank you for reading.

[dwtdog]

There's some positive shift in reviews about Dream on r/youtubedrama too.

The Truth made an impact and he is slowly getting his reputation back : we just need to keep being positive. He is coming from extremly far, it's normal that it keeps slowly shifting

yesss omg there was that post on youtubedrama that was like which cc do you think got too much hate and dream was like the third most upvoted reply when I saw it things ARE changing for the better and if he just keeps uploading consistently and staying off of twitter for the most part I think that the we are so back trend will continue

[sillylilyposting]

You asked for a source on what Courtney said, here is the source: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1glw2qf/courtney_peet_lily_orchards_sister_calls_out/

Why thank you very much!

Courtney sure has a point though

Lily is in a weird spot as most of the people cirtical of her DO acknowledge her allegations Sai has admonished her about her allegations multiple times in multiple videos Joons ENTIRE video exists

I guess people can have issues with people making #content but I also see this as one of those cases where its

Why can't people do both? In the way of saying "wow you just suck at everything, from ya job to your ability to not commit crimes"

[shoezuki]

i dont care much bout mr beast beef cuz i love myself but i am now invested cuz i stumbled on a reddit post through r/subredditdrama where they detailed how mr beast accused the mods of r/youtubedrama of removing any posts in mr beast's favour. and like. its crazy cuz of the deleted posts jimmy provided as example of the mods doin this, one of them was a fucking post where some guy was asking if mr beast is a cannibal.

like. mr beasts team (?) jus saw the title cuz the body of the post was gone when the mods deleted it so they jus saw 'mr beast alligations that seemingly have no evidence?' and im losing my mind over it.

the mods put it back up so now mr beast cannibal alligations lives forever

[velvetvexations]

Hey, just to let you know: sophie-frm-mars aka Sophie McAllister, the blog you reblogged to debunk earlier, has some pretty serious abuse allegations against her. To make a long story short, five of her ex-partners (all trans women themselves) put out a statement accusing her of abuse and assault of many kinds. Here's a link, sorry that it's the youtube drama subreddit but it was the easiest source I could find lol: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/18h7teb/sophie_from_mars_responds_to_a_letter_from_her/?share_id=von22f7ducj1x5HKer-w5

Given what happened with the original "baeddels", it seems like there's a pattern of abusers being welcomed into transradfem spaces. Especially trans women that are abusive to other trans women. I think it's a natural consequence of gender essentialism: if "TMAs" are always victims, they can never be perpetrators. And it's a good example of just how harmful that attitude can be, including for trans women.

Anyway, you may wish to block her. Just thought it was relevant to the conversation.

Noted, and thank you. <3 I will highlight the fact that the accusers in this case are five trans women before anyone starts in on fucking "social murder."

[weirderscience]

checking on r/youtubedrama (because of brainworms) simulator

30 minute video titled "Sloopy is SO OVER" (upon googling who tf Sloopy is, it is revealed that he has like 9 billion subscribers and is sponsored by exxonmobil)

Why Is Nobody Talking About DongleDick's FBI Confiscated Hard Drives

KingLinuxGuru94, the CEO of some PC building startup, has been arrested for insurance fraud.

Logan Paul

Miss LittleDisneyPrincessLovr swatted Guyson McAnimereviewer because he brought up her white supremacy tweets

animator PinkiePieSluts (whom you may remember from 2011 when she debuted with her Pedophilia Scandal in which she groomed 20 different 11 year olds) has kidnapped a minor

Heartbreaking: Guy who makes funny vlogs fell down the antivaxxer rabbit hole

[drdemonprince]

looking at the explosion in bad-faith rumor-spreading that has occurred on the r/YoutubeDrama subreddit since Hbomberguy's video came out and... I don't think Harris did anything wrong in making the video he did, and I know his intentions were good and that he took steps to ensure he wouldn't have a financial interest in mining drama for views in the rest of his career...but... it feels like this video has unleashed a whole new wave of weird quasi cancellation attempts on Youtubers coming from the left and that ultimately we will all look back on this era as a mistake. The rest of Youtube was already a cesspit of rumors and drama and infighting, and the left sure had its dalliances with that too (sarah z and lindsey ellis shitting on quinton very publicly, folding ideas following up on that quite pettily, just a lot of weird cliquish shit), but now people are going to view making smear videos about other creators as an acceptable tactic on leftist youtube, and a lot of people a lot less conscientious and controlled than hbomb are going to take that to some terrrrrible places.

really the entire youtube leftist influencer with a whole stable of hired editorial staff model is completely incompatible with any kind of genuine leftism. it's all too highly dependent upon advertiser revenue, sponsorship deals, and individual patronage based on a viewer's emotional attachment to an individual figure as a "brand". i love a lot of youtuber's stuff, i watch youtube way more than i do movies or tv, but it's just entertainment at the end of the day. it's a profit generating venture for most of these people and they behave accordingly -- self-aggrandizing, careerist, petty shit without any sense of praxis. feels like every day we are being led farther and farther from any kind of ability to organize collectively because even our means of learning about leftist ideas are so rooted in a individual cult of personality that empowers and enriches the personality the more they train us to be reliant up on them.

and again none of this is a knock on harris, who i think is one of the most careful about this stuff and i dont think would even present himself as a leftist these days, most of his videos aren't about such subjects at all. it's about the overall culture of how people relate to these things and the incentives that drive the people that make them. it sucks.

[bwunnydream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1ex35ob/comment/lj3veam/ if anyone wants to upvote them 😭

normally i, uh, wouldn't do a call to action type thing but man. it's rough and i hate that this false narrative still gets spread so much.

i actually commented on another comment because i feel like dream's done a lot to change and grow and people can't let his past go. it's frustrating.

[wildpeachfarm]

Just saw on Reddit that there is a new article about the Beast games and it looks like Amazon had very little control over the set and there are talks about a Fyrefest style documentary about the games.

the Reddit post I saw the article is linked

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/s/NW7vWzIA1D

Woah interesting