#XY roth

[marimbles]

I hope your week gets a better, at the very least we have some solidarity in our disappointment. If you’re still up for doodle requests, maybe some LuXY? It’s been a little while since I’ve seen those guys <3

this is luxy 2 me 🫶

[thatoneautisticfnaffan]

Can we talk about the parallels here????

[miraculousfanworks]

Happy birthday to Benjamin Diskin, voice actor of Sass, Nino (S1-S3), Nooroo, Max (S1-S3), XY, Harry Clown, and many more! Thank you so much for all your hard work!

[megatraven]

happy pride to luxy otp <3

[fabseg-creator]

Second part sketch of Miraculous: Inversed Personas (Opposite AU).

List of Opposite characters:

Bob Roth, music producer. Married to Anarka.

Anarka Couffaine-Roth, Bob's "wife". She has issues with her husband (Not good relationship).

Xavier-Yves Roth (X.Y.), essayist. He abandoned his musician's career for becoming novelist/writer. He rejects his father.

Jagged Stone, classic music player/pianist (instead of rock'n'roll). He's afraid of alligators.

Alim Kubdel, director of the Musée du Louvre.

Tom & Sabine, bakers and Marinette's parents. They died in the arson of the Bakery when (Opposite) Marinette was 10-11.

Rolland Dupain, Marinette's grandfather. He's in good terms with young people ans kids.

André Bourgeois Anaximandre (spoiler from season 5), film director. He has never run for the mayoral election. He's hypocrite and arrogant (He fires Thomas You-Know-Who from the staff).

Clara Nightingale, pop singer. She's arrogant and annoying (similar persona to Canon Chloé).

Harry Clown, comedian and actor. He's known for playing dramatical movies, dramas and B-movies (like Captain Frite).

Wayhem, casual boy. He doesn't like celebrities (especially Adrien). He's an activist on Justice, Human rights and Climate. He's humanitarian.

Domino Brothers, Colt's twin bodyguards (based on bodyguards from Ladybug PV)

M.D.C., class representative from Fathom Academy (identity will be revealed soon).

Cash, Colt's intermediary/negociator in business. Mobster too.

Miss Secretary of Fathom Company (OC) (based on Sphinx's secretary from Ladybug PV).

Verdi (OC), Fathom Academy student.

Sheep (OC), Fathom Academy student.

"Rossi" girl (OC?), Fathom Academy student. Lovesick(?) for M.D.C..

Fei Wu, student transferred from Shanghai to Paris.

Opposite Marinette and Opposite Adrien will be introduced soon.

[zoe-oneesama]

A bunch of rude dudes (and also the Butler)

Main Cast Class Agreste Employees Adults 1 Cesaires and KIDZ+ Adults 2

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[xy-imagines]

xy may not be emo but he has an emo heart...i know. like just imagine xy gets akumatized and his akuma form is the most emo thing you've ever seen and he can finally tell his dad "FUCK YOU DAD!!!" because in the end he is a tortured soul who's bound by idol life...

srry this took me a rlly long time to make bc i was crying so hard 😢 pepple jus dlnt understand him

[samsimisauser]

Yeah, Extreme emotions aren't allowed for XY

anyone else concerned for XY? If Bob treats other children like property, how badly must he treat XY, who's his own son?

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

IOTA Reviews: Illusion

You know, It's really sad how this is a Lila episode, and she somehow isn't the most annoying character to come out of it.

Let's get into the fifth episode of Miraculous Ladybug's fifth season: Illusion

We start off with a news broadcast where several people are interviewed about the recent developments this season. There's an attempt made to show differing perspectives, but while half are recurring characters who are confident Ladybug and Cat Noir will beat Monarch (Xavier, Mr. Damocles, and Alec), the other half are antagonistic characters who either blame Ladybug for everything going wrong or are too stupid to care about the bigger picture (XY, Chloe, and Bob Roth).

This is one of the overarching problems with the show, its refusal to show any nuance in its arguments. We already know how easy it is for the writers to blame Marinette for things whenever there's a conflict, but whenever there's an argument where both sides make interesting points, the opposing side is almost always represented by an antagonist or jerk who frames their view in either a condescending or idiotic way so it's easy for the viewer to brush them off, and the same can be applied to their side of the argument as well. Hell, it's already happened twice this season with Lila and Chloe (Multiplication, Determination). It just comes across like the show is pretending to act like its conflict is deeper without actually showing any real nuance with it. I get that some arguments aren't morally gray, but if you're trying to discuss Ladybug's past failures, put more effort into showing how the people of Paris would see something like this without knowing the full context.

Also, this is a minor thing, but I actually like how when we see Alec on the talk show, he's wearing a wig like the one he had in “Wishmaker”, and has the same positive outlook on life he had at the end of that episode. For a show that usually plays loosey-goosey with its continuity, it's surprising to see the writers actually acknowledge the character growth of someone as insignificant as Alec.

Congratulations, Miraculous Ladybug. You managed to give a very minor side character a consistent arc. Now if only you could put the same amount of effort into writing your main cast.

We cut to Adrien's room where, shock of all shocks, he isn't exactly a fan of his image being used for a high-tech ring without his consent. He storms off to see his father, but it turns out that Gabriel is experimenting with the idea of not being such a terrible father for once. He's making breakfast, saying that Adrien can call him “Dad” now, and even admits that he's been very neglectful towards his son ever since Emilie “disappeared”. Yeah, he's cooking breakfast in his white suit and haircut that makes him look like a grandpa for some reason, but hey, at least the kitchen isn't on fire.

Of course, Gabriel still isn't really good at comforting his son, as seen with his response to Adrien's concerns about Alliance.

Adrien: Speaking of which, Dad, I'm not really comfortable with having my face on all these rings. That's actually why I didn't want to be a model anymore, to avoid that. Do you understand?

Gabriel: Of course, I understand, my son. But that's the point; it's just an image, it's not you! And since this image frees you from your obligations, we, the Agrestes, are able to spend more time together. But if you'd rather everything went back to the way it was before, just say the word.

Adrien: You're probably right.

Gabriel: You'll see, my son. Alliance will bring us closer.

“I know you're concerned about me using your image for something that I could have hired literally anyone else for, but if you would rather go back to being a model on a strict schedule, just say the word.”

Father of the year, ladies and gentlemen.

We get a decent interaction between Marinette and Alya where they discuss ways that Monarch could be giving Miraculous to his Akumas, unaware of what the Alliance rings do. Alya comes up with an interesting hypothesis that Monarch is using the Dog Miraculous to swipe them back, and honestly, that sounds like a much better plan than “develop a cutting-edge AI ring and hope whoever I akumatize had enough money to buy one”. I like this bit, as it shows the two thinking of ways to stop Monarch beyond beating whatever Akuma he sends out next. It honestly could have been a really interesting story arc to see Marinette, Cat Noir, and Alya learn more about how Monarch is using the new Miraculous he got instead of having us know what he's doing already.

After class ends, Nino talks to Adrien about an underground resistance he's forming with his friends, deciding to give each member a condiment-themed title.

Alya: What's up with the sauces?

Nino: What's up is Ladybug and Cat Noir don't have us to help them anymore.

Alya: (nervously) Um... uh... what do you mean, “us”?

Nino: Well, us, you Rena Rouge, me Carapace! (Alya kicks Nino's leg underneath the table) Ouch! What's the big deal? We can tell Marinette and Adrien we used to be superheroes. It's not like we have any Miraculous that Monarch could steal from us. The only ones who need to protect their secret identities are Ladybug and Cat Noir, not us. And anyway, I already told Adrien about Carapace.

Adrien: (chuckles nervously)

Marinette: Adrien knew?! Alya, did you know that he knew?!

Alya: What, no, I swear I didn't know at all! (kicks Nino's leg again)

Nino: Ow! Come on! He's my best bud, I can tell him stuff! You and Marinette tell each other stuff, don't you?

Alya and Marinette: No we don't!

Yeah, remember how shocking it was for Nino to reveal that he and Alya were Rena Rouge and Carapace to Adrien in “Rocketear”, and how we thought this reveal would play into something big like the Season 4 finale, possibly splintering the trust several characters had with each other? This is what it culminates in. Wasn't waiting over a year since that plotpoint was established totally worth it for that gag that once again ignores the secret identity rule?

Also, just because you don't have a Miraculous, it doesn't mean Monarch can't target you like he did last season (Optigami, Sentibubbler), you dumbass.

For the first time in God knows how long, Lila actually becomes relevant when she asks to sit with the four, only to be rebuffed by Marinette and Nino. Using some more condiments and food as props, Nino explains his plan.

Nino: We're gonna film an akumatization.

Alya: And how are you, Comrade Ketchup, gonna be in the know when and where this akumatization takes place?

Nino: Easy, Comrade Beurre Maître d'Hôtel. I'm gonna make it happen.

Yep, this is the plot of the episode, people. Nino's going to try and get someone akumatized. Now I know what you're all obviously thinking: Isn't this cruel?

Adrien: Isn't that cruel?

Alya: Totally! To make someone suffer just to discover Monarch's technique? Super cruel!

Nino: No, it's not! You forget Ladybug always fixes everything in the end with her magic ladybugs! The akumatized victims forget what happened to them.

Oh yeah, this is totally ethical, you guys. Who cares about the emotional trauma an Akuma victim would go through, much less any civilians endangered by their rampage?

To make things even better, guess who Nino wants to get akumatized?

Okay, putting aside what we, the audience, already know about Gabriel that Nino doesn't, why would he think pissing off one of the most influential fashion designers in the city of Paris is a good idea? He says he's targeting him because it's easy to do so during parent-teacher conferences, but why not target someone else who has been akumatized more often than him, like Xavier/Mr. Pigeon? I don't think the idea of a more morally gray plan to stop Monarch is a bad one, it's just that this plan is so stupid, and the writers only go over the ethical implications, and that said plan is so ludicrous, Nino is basically asking for a restraining order.

While Adrien and Marinette agree to Nino's plan, Alya only hesitantly goes along with it, but unbeknownst to any of them, Lila was overhearing their conversation, so she goes to tell Gabriel what they're doing. During the conferences, Marinette barges in and pretends to trip and drop some pizza onto Gabriel's clothes, and I'm going to assume that either the pizza was cold of Gabriel is really good at keeping a cool head because there's no way taking a hot pizza to the chest wouldn't hurt like hell. Adrien and Alya come in with more food, and we get the one funny joke of the episode with Alya half-assing her performance as the half-heartedly throws some cake onto Gabriel's suit. Pretty funny how Nino is conveniently the only one who isn't taking the risk by attacking Gabriel in front of his teacher by filming the whole thing, isn't it?

Gabriel has had enough and does a 180, planning to take Adrien out of school and somehow, Marinette blames herself for going along with the plan... even though she was the only one to not approve of it, while Adrien and Alya did, and even then, the latter two were very hesitant. It turns out this was all part of Gabriel's plan, as we see him transform into Monarch as soon as he gets to his lair and uses Trixx's power to create a Mirage of his civilian form, having a breakdown so dramatic, I'm surprised he didn't end it by saying, “YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, MARINETTE!”.

The illusion of Gabriel turns into the Collector again, and now he supposedly has the Horse Miraculous' Voyage as a power. Adrien and Marinette transform into Cat Noir and Ladybug respectively, and try to fend off the “Akuma”. Back in Monarch's lair, we learn that he somehow has the ability to unify with five different Miraculous at once, choosing to do so with the Bee, Mouse, Horse, and Rooster Miraculous. Why is he able to do this now?

Monarch uses Voyage and heads to the sewers, activating Venom before using Multiplication to create eight smaller clones of himself, finally using Sublimination to give the copies the power of invisibility. Strange, wouldn't wanting to be invisible count as a wish? While looking for “the Collector”, Ladybug uses her Lucky Charm, getting a bag of shredded cheese. The two chase after the illusion, only to fall through a Voyage portal into the sewers, where Cat Noir is almost immediately stunned by one of the clones. Hey, it took five whole episodes this season for him to be incapacitated by an Akuma to pointlessly raise the stakes this time! It's a new record! Ladybug throws the cheese to reveal the clones, who are then chased off by some nearby rats.

Monarch goes back to his normal form, and after a small pep talk, the illusion pretends to reject the Akuma entirely before falling into the water. The real Gabriel detransforms and then pretends to have gotten out. So Gabriel tricked the heroes with his foolproof plan... except for the fact that Ladybug and Cat Noir should have recognized the use of Venom, the hidden clones of the Collector when the video Nino got only said he had the Horse Miraculous' power, the akuma somehow purifying itself when Ladybug still needed to de-evilize it in “Rocketear” and “Penalteam”, the fact that Gabriel should be soaking wet from falling into the water, and the—okay, you all know where this is going.

Meanwhile, Nino sees the footage of the illusion and sees what he believes to be the way Monarch gave the Collector the Horse Miraculous' powers. Nino then apologizes to Gabriel for attacking him, Gabriel forgives him, and Nino invites him into the Resistance, with a bunch of new members. The final scene reveals that in addition to Nino, Alya, Marinette, Adrien, and Gabriel, the Resistance now has Max, Kim, Rose, Juleka, Ivan, Mylene, and to Marinette's horror, Lila. Also, there's a post-credits scene where Gabriel explains what he did to Tomoe when literally everyone watching was able to figure it out.

Okay, so let's summarize. The first mission for Nino's resistance involved assaulting a private civilian, was easily discovered before it could even be implemented, was just as easily foiled by an illusion, now Monarch and one of his allies have infiltrated the alliance as moles, and Nino isn't even aware that his plan was a colossal failure. This resistance isn't exactly going to be like the Rebel Alliance, is it?

Yeah, this episode sucked. It's easily the worst one so far in my opinion. There were a handful of decent moments and ideas here, but my God, the story was just terrible. Morally gray subject or not, it's hard to get behind the heroes when they try to intentionally piss someone off for a plan that the audience knows is going to fail, especially a plan as stupid as Nino's. This episode features Nino at his most obnoxious and unlike Alya, Marinette, and especially Adrien, he doesn't even feel bad for what he did to Gabriel when it ended up being (as far as we know) completely pointless. It feels like the writers wanted to gloss over the ethics of Nino's plan by making Gabriel the victim, because if it was anyone else, it would have made him look like a colossal prick. The fact that he learns nothing and thinks his moronic scheme was a success really doesn't help.

The other characters thankfully weren't as bad. It seemed like the writers were trying to show some self-awareness by having Alya, Marinette, and Adrien object to the plan in one way or another, but it never really went much other than them begrudgingly going along with it, much less calling him out for his actions. At the same time, they all got some decent moments, like Alya and Marinette's discussion about Monarch and Adrien struggling to convey his feelings about the Alliance rings to Gabriel.

It's also kind of weird that it took us about five episode into the season for Lila to finally be relevant again after she did absolutely nothing for the last three episodes of Season 4 and the first four episodes of this season. It was only three and a half years since “Ladybug”, the last major Lila episode premiered, right? But hey, at least the writers didn't overindulge in the dumb Lila lies like her other episodes, and was used more as an informant to kick off Gabriel's counter to Nino's plan.

Putting aside how terrible Nino's plan was, Gabriel's plan still had a lot of problems to it. Like I already mentioned, it's a little strange that Ladybug and Cat Noir never talk about the tiny clones they fought, or the fact that Cat Noir was stung by Venom. I can kind of suspend my disbelief by saying Ladybug was too focused on the battle to think, but why the hell didn't Cat Noir say anything? You would think after working alongside Queen Bee and Vesperia, he would recognize what being stung by Venom must look like. Yeah, Ladybug and Cat Noir didn't know Monarch can now use more powers for some reason, but it still really bothers me, because they should know the Collector can't multiply himself. It's also strange that he made his trick so hard to find when you would think it would be more obvious to see

But overall, this one was just a chore to get through. It feels like the writers saw how much some people didn't like Nino in “Rocketear”, and were like, “You call THAT character assassination?” And speaking of...

THE BIGGEST IDIOT OF THE EPISODE IS... NINO

Was there ever any doubt? The dude talked about his identity in a public place, nonchalantly blew him and his girlfriend's cover when he had no reason to for his Resistance, tried to get his best friend's dad akumatized while not caring about any potential damage, showed no remorse for what he did when his plan blew up in his face, tried to tell Ladybug and Cat Noir about what he learned while they were fighting the Collector, and all that was for a plan that didn't even work because the intel was discovered with ease, to say nothing about how he unintentionally let two enemies into his own Resistance. I've seen a lot of stupid decisions in this show, but never have I seen a single episode where a character makes screw-up after screw-up and doesn't even realize how much of a colossal moron he's being. With the past five episodes I covered and awarded Biggest Idiot Awards to (Ladybug, Alya, Xuppu, Mr. Damocles, and Luka), it was more them not seeing the bigger picture. Here, Nino is honestly trying to help Ladybug and Cat Noir, yet he failed at his job in every way.

[danganronpaisbest]

Miraculous Ladybug (After Silencer) AU/WHAT IF

Luka: Thanks for coming with me back to the radio station Marinette.... I can't believe Alec wants to do an interview with us

Marinette: Yeah, we're finally getting the credit we actually deserved 🙌

Bob Roth: Well, if it ain't little miss Marinette and her emo boyfriend

Luka: Ok, Mr. Roth... first of all, she's not my girlfriend... and second of all... weren't you banned from ever entering here again?

Bob Roth: I'm just here because my son wants to watch the interview, and he couldn't trust me to be home alone

XY: *Walks out* ........

Marinette: Oh hey XY, how are you?

XY: ........... *Walks away*

Marinette: Is... he ok? He looks upset

Bob Roth: Yeah, he's fine... he's still a little shaken up from the akuma attack yesterday

Marinette: Im not so sure.... it looks like he was about to cry or something

Both Roth: He's been ignoring me all day... tch I can't understand what teenagers tiny brains are like now a days.... I'm sure he's fine

[imsparky2002]

Class of Heroes - XYston

Xavier Roth - Gaston

The demigod son of Hades, known in human terms as "Bob Roth". While he's beloved by most girls in his village, at school he's seen as the arrogant jerk he truly is.

He is obsessed with beating Kim, as the boy is the demigod son of Zeus, Bob's rival. He also can't stand that they prefer Kim's modesty and biceps.

He keeps trying to woo Rose to be his future wife, as she always turns him down. Xavier has to be wary of a certain beastly princess if he wishes to avoid getting mauled for his harassment of her girlfriend.

To say he is bigoted towards hybrids is an understatement. Xavier has been suspended before for attempting to brutally attack them. He has experience in hunting animals.

Xavier desperately wants to make his father proud, something Bob takes advantage of.

He has plenty of antlers for decorating. A surprising yet fitting choice for XY. BTW, he's not as buff as OG Gaston, more like a lean-buff. Make sure to check out Class of Heroes. @artzychic27 @msweebyness

[thatoneautisticfnaffan]

ML rich kid posting hours ft. my completely accurate classifications.

[plumsaffron]

Miracubozos roast pt. 9

Are they trying so hard to be Asian but continue to diss Alya and Adrien? Even if those two were annoying at times they didn’t deserve the hate from the so-called Marinette Stans. Besides even though I’m kinda neutral on her, canon Marinette wouldn’t approve of the crazy fans taking things too far. Though I understand why some people detest her and that’s fine by me. Though ngl, there used to be a lot of Adrien/Cat Noir stans before the Lila debut. They’re still coming to his defense even to this day.

Or maybe they’re just hating on white men specifically? For some people claiming to be fighting for equality, they’re dissing white people. That’s not nice, you’re just as bad as the people hating and oppressing the minorities. Most white people in modern times are actually kind, don’t hate on them! At least they aren’t brainwashed by the supremacists!

They’re just like some deviantart users, creating loads of hateful content of fictional characters and series they detest a lot. 💀 A huge waste of time and talent when they could use them for something more positive like any other fictional series that doesn’t have situations where it pisses off the majority.

Oh man, they’re one of the reasons why I deleted my TVTropes account not only due to my lack of logging in but me getting silenced for writing a review on another series. I’m guessing some of those people were that fucking butthurt about it, decided to flag it and a staff member must’ve deleted it. IMDB has more civilized users than TVTropes even when it comes to opinions and reviews.

Fan Crossovers of two or more of my liked/favorite series, without the hatedom or nostalgiatards killing the good mood: 😊👍👌 “Yay! Keep up the good work! You deserve the support! It’s alright if you’re doing an AU as long as you’re being respectful of the source material!”

Fan Crossovers of my favorite series with a series I genuinely dislike/hate, with bashing as a nasty untagged surprise: 💀🖕😡🤬 “Get out of my feed bitch! You’re getting blocked! My favorite series’ characters are way more civilized (even their worst ones) than from the ones I detest! 🙄”

People out here really believing Marinette would be cool with how they react to her friends. That’s a dang shame; Marinette better with dealing with what doesn’t go her way much better than her stans or lots in the fandom. F, cause these watchers have enough resources and awareness. Yet, still, they collapse entirely because Alya/Adrien or her friends weren’t her/their drones.

That kind of makes the senti amok thing amusing to me if they hate the fate of sentibeings because they hate Adrien being a controlled but them viewers want him and other characters to be controlled when things don’t go how they or Marinette wishes. It’s almost like they don’t know who or how people are or met or maybe or are friends with anymore.

It’s funny how people love turning against Adrien (or anyone) because of Lila. Well I guess it shows who they really are and towards him/Cat Noir and how they like choosing when to ignore perspectives and the environment or bigger things in their faces.

A lot of Deviantartists or people there be straight up insane with their content. Only like a few once in a while called these nutty bozos out. Otherwise, Fugly popular accounts their have nothing else better to do but be biased, dig too deeply to overanalyze stuff (usually hyper tiny crumbs) to establish their hatred upon specific characters, and why others should follow their way if the character is not on the hero or protagonist side. They straight up really love not listening to themselves. Also their unhealthy thirst of villainizing normal human behavior of a character they dislike at least. Then there’s a lot of art straight up made to intentional mock or shame who they don’t like (while amusingly making who they do like, worse).

Recently I’ve learned that people wanted XY (Bob Roth’s son) dead cause Jagged Stone. Not even gonna talk really about the Lila insanity they have against her in there or the bizarre stanning for Chloe suffering there. Still, what did XY do that was so offensive?

Seems like the only thing that prevents these unstable people is if who they see are good obedient pups. Not so good character unlikely appearing and unlikely stirring up trouble and leaves people alone just ain’t enough it seems.

[flightfoot]

Just off another question someone asked:

In the no one probably cares bit it could be fic fodder category: XY fits the senti-profile.

Does whatever dad says

Dead parent

Completely unscrupulous parent

Papa part of the cult.

I've seen XY brought up before for this! I think that he's at least somewhat likely to be a senti for the reasons you've outlined (though again, we don't actually know whether one of his parents is dead, but it is true that we haven't seen or heard about his mom, so it's likely). The main thing that makes me think he might not be, is that he looks older than the other sentikids. It's possible he was just created at an older age in order to avoid having to deal with dirty diapers though.

[awholelotofladybug]

I have recently been inspired to give Emilie Agreste a bit of tragedy in her past in my Stammering Adrien AU. I thought about how she might have had one or two bad experiences in her acting career. Then I thought about Bob Roth, who clearly isn’t a nice guy. And I thought “how far should I take this idea?” I don’t want to step on any toes or over any boundaries, but I also want to take another shot at a serious subject. But I will let you decide.