#Wtnv thoughts

[eonian-nightmare]

Okay, I'm definetly on board with the theory that Carlos is a completely normal scientist, and the weird science we hear in nightvale is just Cecil's brain trying to comprehend what his husband does for work.

WHY YOU ASK,

Because I to, started to sound a bit like Cecil when I tried to explain my partners new science job to my parents.

HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE WEATHER AND POLUTION, - CLIMATE MAYBE AND ALL I HEARD WAS HES USING THE MAGIC OF SCIENCE TO PUNISH COMPANIES THAT ARE BULLYING MOTHER NATURE. AND WHATEVER VIALS OR NUMBERS HE USES TO DO THAT SOUNDS BADASS

[a-slight-sweet-fiction]

I'm working on one of my New Year's Resolutions: finally listening to the UOWII arc! My thoughts on Janet Lubelle as I go are as follows. I've been spoiled for some things, including her character's method of exit, so I'm prepared to probably have mixed feelings. That being said, here we go. Episode 210 - Ten Years Later

Okay. VERY first impression was: huh, okay! She seems reasonably friendly. (Which has never ever been a red flag in the Night-Vale-Verse before, so surely that's fine /sarcasm)

But relistening to that section...I really caught that derisive laugh when she said, "Your--heh. Your weird little...'desert town...'" And I'm so used to hearing Night Vale described as 'weird' as just a descriptor, but I'm definitely questioning how she means that.

"We're going to find an explanation for every little thing. Okay? Don't worry!" The 'don't worry'...has me worried, haha. I wasn't worried, thanks, but now I am. And I don't know the details, but I'm aware that her "finding explanations" can be immensely destructive, so that's also concerning. But I guess until I see how The Explaining works, that's taking a backseat.

"Don't worry!..." I wonder if that would be standing out, without the spoilers I've seen. But it holds a hint of condescension.

Overall I'd say: if I didn't know better, I wouldn't be very concerned at all by this introduction. Maybe a little, based on them coming to look for Carlos previously, and the fact that he doesn't like talking about his past, but ultimately my response would amount to "lol, good luck with that."

In the ways that I DO know better: I'm intrigued. I'm excited. I hope this hits me like a train.

(Oh also, I loved this episode with my entire soul. Hearing from Carlos always warms my heart and I loved the way he spoke about belonging. And the Ten Years (in the DOW) reveal!! Oh wow!! And Cecil's going to listen back later and hear that!!)

[moved-to-piersgender]

There was a fair bit of speculation that this latest arc in WTNV would turn out to be the series finale and that ended up not being the case.

What I suspect is going to happen is that the true herald of the podcast's ending will be an arc heavily featuring the Dark Planet Lit By No Sun. It is intrinsically tied to death, inevitability and endings in a way that's bittersweet and almost peaceful, and it's one of the few recurring motifs that's never been played for absurdist humor.

[arthurtaylorlester]

wtnv liveblog ep. 222 Makarov The Magical

the episode description scares me

wtf was that intro (the distorted happy valentines)

oh no :(( the glow cloud (All hail) rip

smh don't be scared of pigeons they're great

pamela you alright

oh? please tell me the kid is ok at least :(((

ah yes jazz dance the best science

oh it's smart to be lie low

DATE NIGHT !! MAGIC SHOW!!

ngl I forgot dark owl closed

oh what tge fuck is wrong with you michelle

AND FUCK THE UNIVERSITY OF WHAT IT IS

WHAT DO IGUANAS HAVE TO DO WITH MUSIC??? SEE IM RIGHT THEY ARENT EXPLAINING SHIT YHEYRE FORCING ANSWERS

also I forgot that she isn't a teenager anymore wdym she's 50

I mean who DOESNT love being lied to

carlos wanting to keep the mystery of magic is so sweet 😭

what is a sobriquet or nom-de-gair (?)

ooh I like makarov

man fuck blake jones like just let tge road do whatever

my guy you just TRY to leave night vale

DANA !! PLEASE DONT DIE (AGAIN) !!

aww she's traumatised :((

AND FUCK LUBELLE

man I have missed cecil just ranting about carlos :))

oh no what happened

oh wow such a discovery yall can't eat invisible pie

GO OFF CECIL

BLAKE IF YOU KILL LAURA ILL FUCKING KILL YOU

dr jones u r so dead

NO HE WHAT

HE WAS CARLOS' REPLACEMENT

CARLOS BBG PLEASE GET REALLY ANGRY

Did he call carlos a failure

GO OFF CECIL PUNCH THAT FUCKER

yo tye weather slaps

tge way he said wow time for the weather was so cute !!

wow really no one you didn't punch anyone ever?

HE MISSED ???

CECIL IM SO SORRY TAHT WOULDVE HAPPENED TO ME TOO

oh makarov you are so right

wonder is magic

carlos you are allowed to be angry :(

... he's right

they are so perfect for each other ill cry

oh cecil please stop telling me about your sex life

violence isn't the answer :D

its the question /j

BUT YALL AILL WIN AGAINST LUBELLE

great episode! was missing cecilos and im glad to see carlos be leveraged he's so smart

goodnight nighvale, or we'll good lunch?

[bingusappreciator]

I have a theory/headcannon

So, when we cut to weather in nightvale, I imagine that the glow cloud (all hail) is sitting glowing about their day and we hear the songs playing in their majestic head.

[enjoy-purple-skies]

Wtnv 210 - ten years later

I am crying. So so much. I wish i can write coherent thoughts in this website but my Emotions are everywhereeee i can’t even think properly

I started listening in 2015-6 (can’t actually remember) and quickly got so obsessed with this strange town at the other side of the world but because i had no one to share night vale with the same level of fixation, i soon moved on with other media to consume

But wtnv is such an integral part of me. It’s a cornerstone of my personality. You cannot take cecil palmer and carlos and the vague yet menacing govt agency and helicopters and the dog park and khoshekh and dana cardinal and station management and the sheriffs secret police and the lights above the arby’s and huntokar and pamela winchell and tamika flynn and michelle nguyen and the angels all named erika and john peters (ykno, the farmer?) and kevin and desert bluffs and maureen and the man in the tan jacket away from me without destroying me. I love eye imagery. I draw an eye on almost every artwork i do as my signature. And to me, it will always be a real place. it’s my precious haven where i dont need to be serious or taken seriously because that’s just how it works. where every mystery is not always solved and i can learn to make peace with it because time is weird and logic is not logic and that’s all right.

Anyway, brb gonna have an hour-long crying session

[just-raphael]

WTNV rumbling, as always.

Episode “108 - Cal” fucking crazy.

It’s so different from the others, idk what about it is different, the way it makes me feel ig. It’s just something more upsetting.

This whole arc, about memories and stuff messing with reality is a lot harder than others, maybe it’s just me but the thought of remembering things wrong or lacking a memory that should be there is terrifying (probably because I have lost some of the memories of my childhood). This episode just hit different idk what to tell you.

[snakespeare]

I. Couldn't sleep until I made this

[makeshiftloops]

Listen, I’m only 6 episodes into the podcast, but you can’t tell me this isn’t just Welcome to Night Vale

[eonian-nightmare]

Okay, yes the new episode was alot but its making me think about time and space and science again. Like our resident scientist often does. And like.... can we talk about how everything with carlos related back to "time".

Like okay, let's talk seriously, we know that Carlos has had a few interactions with weird timelines

He was apparently missing from the main world for decades.He was in the DOW for 10 years, He didn't age in nightvale for a large portion of the time he was there.

But that's hardly scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Like honestly, has anyone sat back and thought seriously about this, about why everything about carlos comes back to time.

He'll, his first major interaction with us was him trying to pick apart and measure time in a realm he was not used to. He got annoyed when cecil told him to just drop it. It's almost like he wanted to control it.

And that's kind of what he was trying to do in the DOW wasn't it?. Like honestly. Think about the logic behind the science used to measure time there. It's a place where the sun never sets, time literally works different from where he's used to, the place was barren. He would have had to literally do so much testing to even just get a vague concept of time there vs nightvale. And it would've taken so long. It would've been quite scientifically interesting. Maybe even more so than nightvale purely due to this.

We could talk about the fact that one of the only things we've heard about carlos family is that his mother gifted him a clock?

How his first major gift to cecil was a watch that beat nightvale logic and could tell the time.

Can we think about how almost every special rant he has involves time in one way or another?

Can we talk about for some reason carlos' memory is never affected with timeline changes?

Can we talk about how he fixed the issue with telly and the time line, or how simply he said he would keep trying and fighting against time if cecil didn't remember him when he forgot.

Can we mention that 5 years ago carlos was supposed to be 41, but at the same time had somehow reached the level of professor and had tenure, and managed to disappear for decades. Or the fact when he told cecil he'll find his way back to him when stuck in the DOW, he was talking about hours, days, weeks, months as if it's all the same and doesn't matter?

Can we mention how the person carlos loves the most struggles with the concept of time. Has memory blanks, a fear of ageing, gets scared to look in the mirror, doesn't like keeping track of how long has past, has had numerous issues where he's gone through time and been unable to tell how long exactly has passed.

Can we talk about how nightvale was originally destroyed, how it broke time and space and pulled itself apart.

Can we talk about how something happened before carlos arrived here, something he hates talking about, something to do with a massive Phantom ocean. Can we talk about the quote from Dracula "I have crossed oceans of time to find you"...

Anyway.... I think we should talk about time more,

[fox-guardian]

As funny as it would be for there to be another sans vs reigen standoff, I Do think it'd be really funny if we got Cecil to go all the way. Especially since, in my opinion, he stands the test of time and has come all the way around to the new brand of sexyman.

Like, yes, he was, in WTNV's early days, given the twink treatment. Dapper style, youthful features, etc. But he was never like that canonically.

He dresses horrifically (affectionate), he's canonically an older man even in the podcast's beginning, and he is and never has been a twink (he is neither thin, nor fat. Implying at thinnest, straight-sized, and at biggest, mid-sized).

Obviously this doesn't change the fandom's sexymanification of him, but it does lead him to fit more nicely into the sexyman that the aging tumblr userbase has recently developed:

The Babygirl.

Listen. Apart from the above, he can't cook for shit, he's petty, he's written Jaws slash fic and had his intern beta read it, he is CANONICALLY a dilf, he grows his own weed, he loves his husband So Goddamn Much, he won't shut up about how much he carnally desires said husband, he mentions his kinks on the fucking air, AND HE EVEN HAS A FUCKING TUMBLR.

I think he fits the bill for the pathetic older queer man that tumblr has grown so very Normal about. He is so very powerful. And after ten years of being this way I think he should be allowed to go all the way to the top. I think he's earned it.

Sure, if he doesn't stand a chance in the final four, I'll accept sans vs reigen. But if it gets close enough, say, above 40%.... Maybe we could push to go all the way. For the bit. For one of the original sexymen of tumblr history. For our dear gay uncle, Cecil Gershwin Palmer. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

[xenolinn]

He wants to show off his husband real quick.

[vee-lociraptor]

podcasts are cool bc they’re either the queerest or most intensely platonic thing i’ve ever heard but either way the people involved generally love each other very much

[c-schroed]

If I had a nickel for every time an eldritch universe I love got an RPG announced on an August 1st,

I'd have two nickels.

[vvanillavveins]

"I’ve tried spending more time with dad in my dreams and in my art. But he’s- god, he’s impossible. Just give me a straight answer, man. A word, a gesture, a look at your face even. I think he was like this in real life, Cecil. I think his ambiguity, his vagueness, is why mom hated talking about him. He's not enigmatic or magical. He is fucking frustrating. All these cryptic images, but I don’t think there’s much to understand about an absent father."

[slybeholding]

I have concluded I like my men covered in blood, whether it be their own or the blood of another, doesn't matter.