#Transfeminism

[witchytakes]

Like the most average situation for trans women?

but they don't have the choice between the making the old man chicken nuggets, they get kicked out of their jobs because they are trans, so they had to go back to choice one

And by being trans they know they would get less money from it, so it's just sex work for the survival of a single person, you guys never talk how much of most trans women are forced to sex work by being trans

your solution is "they could stop being trans" or that we choose to be trans, yeah they fuck for money, they fuck a lot for money, more than any women around, you guys only pick on the lucky minority ones who got internet access, while most of them are on the streets, working their asses off to get a single plate of food, this is the reality of trans women

the current state of r/lesbianactually

these are tims btw

[velvetvexations]

not to be all chuni but the avalanche of trans women speaking up about how fucked this site's definition of "transfeminism" is will not slow down until the radfem gunk is yanked out of it and we have something that actually concerns itself with more important things than the right to call other trans people 4chan slurs and make jokes about killing them <3

[troutreznor]

yknow it was actually a brush with the transandrophobia truther phenomena that reignated my passion for feminism (and eventually activism as a whole) - I had reached a point of political apathy just really jaded and depressed and found myself on the fringes of edgy reactionary circles online, and some of the guys i hung out with were transandro bros, and some of what they were posting made sense to me - but pretty quickly i also picked up on negative response from transfems and the harassment they were getting in return, and admittedly the term itself "transandrophobia" itself had never sat well with me, so i made a point to follow more transfeminists and refresh my intersectional feminist media literacy with punk music and memoirs and i talked to trans women about the divide in the trans community and what they needed for it to heal, and it just became abundantly obvious that the concept of transandrophobia is incompatible with feminism and, frankly, with the actual material lived reality of trans people

idk why listening and learning is like an actual impossibility for some of yall tbh

[agendercryptidlev]

If your feminism is so based in the gender binary that you have to create binary categories to sort non-binary people into to make it work than don't even bother calling yourself a transfeminist. In order to create feminism truly inclusive of non-binary people we need to let go of the idea that non-binary people's experiences are neatly sorted into arbitrary categories such as AFAB/AMAB, Female Socialized/Male Socialized, Transfem/Transmasc, TMA/TME, Non-Man/Non-Woman, etc. I want trying to fit all non-binary people into these binaries to be a thing of the past and to create feminism that truly centers trans people, even the ones that don't fit neatly into the binary that cis feminism is based on.

[antiamericanaction]

also "trans women are protecting rapists just because they're trans women" is a top 5 most common terf talking point and the one that is the most demonizing towards us

these dudes are making it really obvious what circles they run in

"trans women can be abusers and predators too!" Yeah but did you know trans women can also be people? You never seem to see us as people, just as pieces in an argument.

[antarctite]

makes post about another trans woman who saw radfeminism in trans women’s spaces

your post gets picked up by radfems who agree with it bcuz its exactly the same rhetoric word-for-word as theirs

lol. lmao

[boreal-sea]

Non-patriarchal masculinity and manhood

I haven't made a post about feminist theory in a bit, so let's do this.

I am speaking on the subject of people who are masculine-inclined or who are men at least some of the time. I speak especially about the cultural impact of people who do these things in ways that defy the expectations of the patriarchy.

The patriarchy is utterly dependent on a rigid, binary hierarchy. You have cisgender men on top, and you have everyone else below. This hierarchy is based on a belief in the union of sex and gender - men are male, women are female, and these traits are assigned at birth and (ostensibly) determined by one's chromosomes.

Only one specific kind of man is the recipient of the true benefits of the patriarchy. In America he is the Christian cisgender heterosexual abled white man of moderate or better means. He is the only class of man that is allowed to access the penultimate form of patriarchal privilege.

So what of those who "should not" have access to the privilege of American Patriarchy? What of those who ostensibly have access to some or all of these privileges, but are doing manhood, masculinity, or maleness "wrong"?

They are threats.

This is where masculinity, maleness, and manhood can become axes of oppression, not axes of privilege. It is unfair in any feminist analysis to claim these things are always forms of privilege when the world blatantly shows they are not. This inversion is expressed in many ways. I cannot possibly list every single example, so the following is an incomplete list of examples that I encourage others to add upon.

Cisgender butch women do not gain male privilege for performing masculinity, because females are not supposed to be masculine.

Black men's manhood is used against them for the same traits revered in white men.

A trans man is not granted male privilege even though he may in fact be male because the patriarchy does not recognize him as such, except to assign fearful traits of anger, violence, and disgust to him.

Trans women do not have male privilege either - and just like trans men, the patriarchy uses masculinity and malehood against her by leveraging the most violent, feared parts of maleness, even though she is not male.

Intersex people are oppressed no matter what choices they make, because they fall outside of the rigid sex binary demanded by the patriarchy.

The patriarchy will gladly be a hypocrite. It will uphold a certain type of man as the ideal, then use his very traits to demonize those who do not remain in their assigned place, or those who break the rules. People who violate the rules represent an existential threat to the patriarchy.

And it is possible, in so many ways, to be masculine, male, or a man, in a way that the patriarchy does not approve of. It is more important than ever that we do so, to stand strong, to fight against the patriarchy.

[witchytakes]

TERFs back then claim that trans people do change sex (sees Janice Raymond in her transphobic book)

nowadays they don't

maybe now we aren't bending so much our knees because we always said we changed a lot, now with the bimodal sex theory it's even more clear what trans and intersex people belong

back in the day trans people wanted to simply get an F or M in their license, to get a official name change, to get better access to HRT, we didn't even had the basic so we had to bend our knees for basic rights we didn't have, we simply don't want to have shitty rights anymore, we don't want to be pigeons waiting for an old man giving some drops of his bread when we could have the whole bread

isn't it kind of crazy that even a few years ago you would have TRA's loudly proclaiming things like, "Of COURSE trans women aren't biologically female, literally NO-ONE is saying that!!" and now a male US elected official is on record saying "We're every bit as 'biologically female' as cis women"...

[taliabhattwrites]

The Third Sex

After months of research and painstakingly connecting the threads of transmisogyny theory, queer activism, and field-wide epistemic injustice, I would like to present "The Third Sex": my treatise on a third-world transfeminism.

[hazelsmask]

You don't understand it's totally your responsibility as a trans women to deconstruct gender roles. And you do this by not transitioning. Women can have body hair so you shouldn't get electrolysis. Women can have flat chests so you shouldn't start hrt. Women can have deep voices so you shouldn't voice train. It's incredibly important for me as a woman that you don't transition so you can challenge gender norms! Trans women shouldn't transition trans shouldn't transition trans women shouldn't transition!!! It's for feminism and not because I hate trannies

[femme-ressentiment]

“unlike Other Men, we [marginalized] men are actually structurally incapable of misogyny” is a disturbingly common belief that goes unchallenged on here

[madmanbear]

I have a lot of criticisms of the transandrophobia community, as you may see on my blog. I believe it is a toxic online community which facilitates harassment. So far I have only seen transmasc-on-transmasc harassment, but I wouldn’t put anything past them. I don’t doubt that these users will harass transfems, although I have never read such allegations myself.

However, I would like to caution against accusing online transmascs of being TERFs for being orbited by TERFs. Radfems generally do not respect our boundaries.

No matter what we say, no matter what our opinions are, they try to infiltrate our online communities. Even if we are very vigorous about weeding them out, they still manage to take screenshots and drag us, even if our communities are private or invite-only.

They’ll fear monger about transition, or will make sock accounts posing as trans guys, and yes they do sometimes try to steer us away from aligning with other trans people in various ways.

Something sounding “promising” to a TERF could be literally any conflict within the community no matter how small. Doesn’t mean the conflict doesn’t exist, shouldn’t be talked about, or should be ignored, just because TERFs think they can use it as a wedge. They’ll try to use anything as a wedge, and if they can’t find a wedge, they’ll make one.

[ID: A Tumblr post from user @/scintillatingscotoma which reads: “The ‘transandrophobia’ posts I’ve been seeing from TIFS lately are very promising, I can tell they’re getting increasingly fed up with the sexism toward them from TIMS and I think they’re going to snap and become ‘transmisogynists’ soon. We can only hope.” The user is marked red on shinigami-eyes.]

Lemme just say, transandrophobia truthers, if a literal transmisogynistic extermination group is applauding you for being a bigoted piece of shit towards trans women, then you should really look inward. Transandrobros are the same as terfs. You should all be fucking ashamed of yourselves.

[thetransfemininereview]

THIS IS A CALL TO ACTION. Censorship affects all of us, and if Project 2025 gets its way, the entire trans publishing industry is at a significant risk of criminalization. In this article, I lay out the problem and the stakes, and suggest a broad action plan with dozens of potential response ✊

[velvetvexations]

I'm genuinely in awe of how the reblog chain with punkitt is literally just 1:1 shit you'd see in terf spaces.

The absolute lack of reading comprehension, the "Actually telling me i shouldn't tell random (marginalized) men to kill themselves is misogyny", the "So you want women to shut up about being hate crimed forever", the "you want us to coddle men and never criticize them for anything", the "I'm traumatized so i should be allowed to lash out at anyone i want however i want and not letting me do that is anti feminist"

Of course there's also the misogyny and sending women who disagree with you death wishes.

These people are literally just radical feminists now. It's indistinguishable, aside from letting trans women into the club this time.

Kind of wanna blow this website up rn

And that's always been the goal of those trans people! Getting into the club! That's all that matters to some transfems and transmascs.

You want to be a poor cis women oppressed in exactly the same way as a cis woman are? Sure, just toss out solidarity with trans men, because WOMEN don't have solidarity with MEN. They're MEN. That means they get MALE PRIVILEGE. And of course, cis people could never even incorrectly classify you as a man, because if they did, then YOU'D get male privilege! Because all MEN are privileged and have privilege! So they must see you as a woman!

You want to be a big bad oppressive bro who women are soooo scared of? Sure, okay Mr. TME, you fucking loser, but I'm not going to RP your patriarchy fetish with you, consider hanging out with Andrew Tate in a Romanian prison.

[pretty-kitten-paw]

The UK government headed and run by many transphobes has decided to make the Trans Panic defense legal. If a trans person does not disclose their gender and the other party presses charges due to this, they can be convicted with sexual assault crime.

Furthermore any trans person, (tho particularly trans women), who has obtained a Gender Reassignment Certificate (GRC) will be put into prison of their birth sex if the matter is a sex crime

With these two bits of legislation Labour have made it not only legal but easy for trans people to be jailed and sexually assaulted by members of their birth sex. We know for a fact that sexual assault in prisons happen esp to trans women. We know that placing them in female prisons, whilst not eliminating sexual assault, does make it less common.

Labour are defining a movement based on fear. Based on the fact that any cis person disgusted by their own internalised transphobia at sleeping with a trans person will have the full backing of the law to punish them. Even if sexual consent was given. Even if you both got inebriated and fucked and the "victim" found out your transness later. This puts every stealth trans woman at risk. This puts every trans woman who enjoys hook ups at risk. This puts everyone at risk.

And yet people wonder why trans women overwhelmingly date their sisters and friends.

[slayercain]

When a straight man lashes out after dating or having sex with a trans woman, he is often afraid of the implication that his sexuality is joined to hers. When a gay man anxiously keeps trans women out of his activism or social circles, he is often fearful of their common stigma as feminine. And when a non-trans feminist claims she is erased by trans women’s access to a bathroom, she is often afraid that their shared vulnerability as feminized people will be magnified intolerably by trans women’s presence. In each case, trans misogyny displays a fear of interdependence and a refusal of solidarity. It is felt as a fear of proximity. Trans femininity is too sociable, too connected to everyone—too exuberant about stigmatized femininity—and many people fear the excess of trans femininity and sexuality getting too close. But sociability can never be confined or blamed on one person in a relationship; it’s impersonal, and it sticks to everyone. The defensive fear and projection built into trans misogyny, whether genuine or performed, is an attempt to wish away what it nonetheless recognizes: that trans femininity is an integral part of the social fabric. There will be no emancipation for anyone until we embrace trans femininity’s centrality and value.

Jules Gill-Peterson, A Short History of Trans Misogyny