#They don't get around to other thoughts bc they get harassed by this one person for the foundational thought 'she has interesting flaws'
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wardensantoineandevka · 1 year ago
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It really is so funny the ONE person going around harassing everyone for having any opinion about Imogen that doesn't priorize framing her as a Suffering Martyrdom And One Of Angelic Intent, i.e. any post trying to unpack and examine what she is fighting against in herself in her journey to become the good person she wants to be and is working toward, keeps going "we don't care about your stupid opinions" and yet has spent literally a year ruminating on other people's opinions and creates multiple burners just to block evade to tell people about it
second funniest thing is how they're constantly complaining about people prioritizing men, and then thinking that Matt (a man) liking a tweet that says the same thing a lot of these people they're harassing have BEEN saying for, well, the entire campaign is the ultimate validation, like, what happened to "of course you're prioritizing a MAN".
in general, it's actually funny this entire discourse is happening because, like, actually a lot of people on both sides are saying the same thing vis a vis Imogen's flaws, it's just that there's a disagreement because some people (especially, especially, especially the person referenced above) perceive unpacking her flaws and what she is fighting to make better in herself without spending every other sentence going "but she's a good person and she wants to be kind" equals attacking and hating on her. she does want to be these things, nobody being attacked has said otherwise, and this idea that trying to understand what parts of Imogen are preventing her from ALREADY being the person she is trying to work toward—you wouldn't need to strive for it if you believed yourself already that person—is criticism or hating on her simply bc it doesn't focus on her better intent and what she intends to be is kind of ridiculous. honestly, we can't quantify what "good" means here without first examining what she is working with and what pitfalls she is avoiding. to understand what "good" looks like for her, what does "bad" look like for and in her?
it's simply interesting to many to really examine what she's fighting against in herself on this journey toward being better and good. it's very opening line of Anna Karenina in that way, and striving to understand what she's rising up out of isn't criticism or hating on her simply bc it doesn't spend half it's word length reminding everyone she's trying to be good. (especially when the post is trying to be focused and not bog down on every thought ever. talking about carrot cake doesn't mean op thinks yellow cake is a travesty.)
And, anyway, if you're going to keep pointing at a tweet comparing her to villains in Exandria as some ultimate gotcha, you have to let people actually talk about the ways in which she IS similar to those villains (just as all PCs are similar to many villains, really, 'tis the point of a villain), tendency toward self-focus and ambition and unkindness and hunger for power and uncharitableness and all. for her to want to be kind and good and to choose instead to be kind and good, she does have to face that part of her feels an impulse otherwise and that part of her tries to draw her to make the lesser choices. she is trying to ignore that impulse, to varying degrees of success in each moment but with an overall trend upward, but that part exists and is what people want to talk about to help track and contextualize her trajectory. without that part of her that is self-centered and mean and uncharitable etc., her choice to strive to be good and kind instead is meaningless.
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bonefall · 7 months ago
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i found a god awful doc about this one person (who, too, is a god awful being) trying to reason why mudClaw would be a bad leader. I'ma try to find the doc but meanwhile I'll submit this because someone could have the link, I'll need your honest thought about it bcs why are we defending oneWhiker now
Anon, buddy, I'm gonna have to sit you down and gently discourage you from casually calling random human people "god awful beings" in my inbox like this. Not when you're just talking about relatively basic media analysis. That isn't ok or normal.
I hope that when I speak harshly, it's coming from a place of condemning hurtful actions and the tangible harm that they cause. I don't appreciate people trying to get me to directly beef with other people directly by requesting I break down their individual posts or analysis documents (when I ask for people to share links, it's so I can see and prepare to counter the ideas because they usually "float downstream" if they get popular); but in a second ask, you linked this document and there's nothing harmful in it. In fact, it's got a far more neutral tone than I'd take if I was writing an analysis about Mudclaw.
If you couldn't tell the difference between a document like this and one that contains active abuse apologia rhetoric, I would be filled with concern. But I don't think you read it. I think you maybe skimmed it and stopped reading, or just heard the title.
Because this document literally says this;
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and your takeaway, something you felt so strongly about that you came to me hoping I'd validate it, was "Why Are We Defending Onewhisker Now."
Art is a tool we can use to explore our own biases, and teach us something about ourselves. That overwhelming sense of anger and disgust that you probably felt when you saw "Mudclaw Would Be A Bad Leader" made you jump to an emotional conclusion and you assumed something that was not said. I know the feeling. You might have had a reactionary impulse.
You are not a bad person for doing that-- you're human. You can grow.
Why did it upset you this much, though? Is there something very personal about this that set you off? ...are you spending a lot of time in spaces online that keep you angry? These are questions for you to reflect with.
I do not know the owner of this document or "what they've done," if anything, so I will not link it, because their Discord is at the bottom of the doc. If they are truly a "god awful being", please do not engage, just block and move on. Nothing is accomplished by following around 'A Bad Guy' and boosting their cat takes.
But something VERY bad WOULD be accomplished if I indulged an anon for a situation I know nothing about and unwittingly became part of a harassment campaign. How do I know that you've got good intentions?
I usually just delete unsolicited links to docs and videos that are 'fightbaiting' like this-- trying to get me to beef publicly with a 3rd person. But I've seen more of these than usual lately so I would like to try and cool it down.
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maoam · 4 months ago
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I love how sakura and hinata fans say sns shippers are misogynists for not liking those girls and the ships when really I think me being a man-hating-radical-feminist is what makes me not like them lol. Like I have self respect which is why I don't like someone who's entire purpose is to be a man worshipping housewife from the 1950s with no backbone and doesn't stand up for herself at all (hinata) or someone who's pretty much a male in female form who mimics real creepy male behaviour to a T like constantly harassing someone and trying to force them to like you back despite constant rejects, treating them like a sexual object only, centering yourself around their life and not even actually caring about someone they claim to love (sakura). Also if you take it a step further, I can even say the reason sasuke's my favourite character is bc he's female-coded. Like almost every way he gets treated both by the narrative and by real fans is how a lot of ppl treat real women. (think they know better for him, hating him for being attractive and able to get anyone's attention, hating him for having agency and not caring what ppl think, not caring to follow paths others want him to follow, etc) these are all things that most women get hated on for irl. It also says a lot that most of his haters are male lol, while other male characters with the "coolness" factor like sasuke are still worshipped (like his own brother, kakashi, even naruto). Also gaara getting more popular after he started worshipping naruto and leaving his cool backstory and interesting character behind also proves my point. If sasuke just became a naruto fanboy halfway thru and didn't bother with his revenge and only started loving naruto (not romantically tho, ofc, bc that's gay and we're alpha males who fuck bitches only 😤) he prolly wouldn't be as hated. Just like if sakura switched her affections from sasuke to naruto halfway thru, the dudebros would stop hating her. It's all about naruto worship, and the characters who end up doing that always end up being the shell of the interesting characters they once were (like gaara, hinata was never an interesting character, she's the only one who was meant to be his cock worshipper since the beginning) and that's what makes me hate all dudebros and some female fans who think this too. Like sometimes I start hating naruto myself bc some of the sasuke only stans on tumblr make really good points about how naruto's basically a male power fantasy series. Almost everyone ends up worshipping him, and even sasuke (if you wanna see it that way) ends up doing that. I personally like equal power in relationships so I like to see them as equal in the end, but some ppl who only wanna see their self insert incel mc be worshipped, they can see it that way. Sometimes I only like naruto in sns and sasuke individually, and hate everything else about this series. Anyway that got kinda off topic but yeah.
Sakura also does not stand up for herself when it comes to Sasuke.
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Hinata's body language is always timid, but Sakura's becomes one too in the presence of Sasuke. Because she tries to make Sasuke like her, but since she doesn't understand Sasuke she also doesn't understand this is not what Sasuke wants nor needs. Sasuke wouldn't like it either if Naruto acted this pathetic.
Hinata is literally a tradwife dream, she is docile, submissive, doting and her only goal in life is to support Naruto and become Naruto's girlfriend/wife and have his kids. She has no thoughts about anything else. This is what many men want from a woman. It's really pitiful to read/watch people try to come up with something in order to make Hinata look like a decent character. It all comes down to "she liked Naruto since the beginning", "she sacrificed herself for Naruto", "she has had more kids than the other female characters".
I don't know about the use of "female-coded" as a term (I talked about it at one point), I think it's the homoeroticism that largely contributes to this (especially how Sasuke is made to be desirable to both men and women). But I do see where you're coming from. Sasuke does piss off many men but a lot of it is due to incel mentality. Some of it is due to main character entitlement, as in Sasuke takes too big of a chunk out of the manga when it comes to screentime. Ironically, there are many of them who think Sasuke should have been a female character so Naruto's obsession with him wouldn't make them so uncomfortable.
I also find it annoying when so many Sakura videos I watch have men ranting about how Sakura still likes Sasuke despite the fact Naruto saved her. Like you can tell they think a man should be able to buy woman's sexual interest by making her owe them. But thankfully, I have come across also videos that make very good points about her character.
Naruto and Sasuke's fight (or more like the aftermath) annoyed some men because it was physically basically a draw and Naruto even said to Sasuke "this isn't about winning or losing". Sasuke lost to his feelings, basically him admitting defeat was him accepting to be loved by Naruto LMAO no wonder dudebros were mad. Many of them whined because they hated how Kishi had to make it so gay.
Shonen tends to be a male power fantasy. Luffy also gets everyone to fanboy/fangirl him. And shonen mcs usually have one of the worst stans for this reason. It's funny (or not) how the same pattern can be seen in every shonen fandom when it comes to the main character. There are men who self insert into them and act like everything needs to be about them, and bash other characters especially if they take even a little from their mc. Meanwhile there is a subset of women who create this yaoi harem shit around the mc, him as feminine uke bottom that every other guy just wants to rail. And they also might wrote posts on how other characters are irrelevant and boring compared to their beloved mc. It always happens. If it makes you feel better, Naruto always saw Sasuke and Iruka as different from the rest, because he didn't need to prove anything to them, they just cared for him even when he was a loser. And to Naruto, Sasuke is the best in the world. Even to Sarada he started ranting how Sasuke is hot and cool and the best shinobi in the world lol. But yes, I think Gaara and Neji lost some edge of their characters after they were saved by Naruto.
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xo-cod · 1 year ago
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OP plz i am o b s e s s e d with all the bg!Simon stuff u put out bc it's just so *g o o d*, it's my Roman Empire fr fr ✊😔😩🖤
On that note,, I'd love to see the 141 as their whole security team esp when popstar's made it really big, so reader needs /all/ the big burly men protecting her 🫣
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this was so cute!! i write this au just for you and the two other people that enjoy it frfr 🥹🩷😙 lmk if you'd like a more in depth version! :")
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the way bg!ghost would see you getting anxious at the sight of his team. he might be the most biggest but his team certainly do not lack their own respective height and muscles 😮‍💨🫶
his first thought would be to immediately calm you down, he knows they all can look incredibly intimidating together
"s'ok, they're with me alright?" ghost's voice is gentle, soothing as he speaks to you
he needs a clear word to see how you are and where your head is at and when you start to warm up to the team, he's right behind you
soap, gaz and price are dressed in formal wear just like ghost, their muscles all but bulging and straining against their shirts.
a range of weapons are strapped to their waist, hidden discreetly under their blazers
each of them donning a pair of sunglasses, standing tall in their stance
you can feel ghost's hand touch the small of your back and usually under any other condition, you would've taken the time to appreciate how good it felt against you
but a set of three different eyes analyses your every movement, your breath held as you await the criticisms but there is none
to your surprise all three men crack a small smile, each one different yet almost tender in their own ways
"easy sweetheart, we're just here to help" gaz's voice is gentle, calm, trustworthy.
"yeah, you won't even know we're here hen" soap is next, removing his sunglasses as he takes a cheeky smile at you
"you'll be safe with us, we're here for your protection" price's voice is soothing, his deep voice echoing pleasantly in your ears as you take in all three men carefully
and once you get acquainted with them, you get along with all three fairly quickly
cue ghost getting jealous when you start going to them instead of him :(
but they're seriously intimidating, sometimes without even trying
whenever a supporter wanted a picture or an autograph, all four men were stiff and rigid around you. like four impenetrable walls, caging you inside safe and soundly
it was a nightmare to even use the bathroom alone
whenever someone calls your name, all four men snapping their heads so worryingly fast you'd fear they get whiplash with the way they turned
if paparazzi was harassing you, they'd just need one collective look from the 141 to back off immediately
the dominance each man exudes is different and dependant yet potent, you can tell they don't mess around with their job and the tasks they've been assigned <3
also when someone attempted to try and throw something at you, resulting in said object hitting ghost's broad chest and bouncing off to the floor in front of his feet. the man barely flinching through it all as he looked back up to the person who threw it.
ghost's eyes burning behind his balaclava, taking an intimidating step forwards
soap and gaz immediately grabbing the man by his arms, barely using any of their strength to restrain
"now you've gone and done it, huh" price chuckles but it's not the one you're accustomed to. no, this one was was sharp and cold. this meant business
and for all their hard work you, of course, spoil them. which also turns soap and gaz into little children opening presents when you get them something they had been dying for, pouncing on you for a hug
price chuckling and telling you that you didn't need to do this but you obviously bought something for him too. his heart melting as he looks back and forth from his present and then to you. bringing you in for a gentle hug and a forehead kiss
ghost watching with a roll of an eye but a hint of a chuckle, his eyes on you the whole time. though he thinks he's being neutral, you note how his pupils dilate when he's by you
for a look that's only reserved for you only, "that's my girl"
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jittyjames · 4 months ago
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so kinda want to talk about something that happened in the past few days and an ongoing issue within the ham community atm. i know y'all have seen all of the stuff going around, people hiding behind anonymity to tear each other down, name dropping accounts to get them harassed etc.. the blog was fun at first, and i even enjoyed putting in harmless opinions on women's representation and aaron burr being my favorite character, but it quickly devolved into something concerning. but hey! you can't censor people by deleting or ignoring posts on a confession blog right? that would defeat the purpose. so of course all of this discord will be allowed.
except the moderator had no problem taking down my anonymous post that called out the undermining of harmful slurs being used by the community.
i blurred the person's name i was referring to because although it was all over the confessions blog and they have no problem with airing this minor's name after she's already gotten death threats, i don't want to spread it outside of there for people not involved. so here's the following conversation that took place.
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(context for anyone who's had the great fortune of not running into this blog: someone had said a homophobic slur in a derogatory way and there was a question if they could reclaim it or not.) (rebuttal is also not the right word, but my mind was racin and that's what we got. i meant response.)
at first, i thought there was a misunderstanding. that someone had asked them to take something down and they mistook my post for it since they made a post saying they did in fact take down a post by someone's request. but i had a feeling it was something more. clearly, the moderator values someone who doesn't want people speaking out about an issue of homophobia being down played's opinion over an actual member of the lgbtq+ community. it's 2024 and we're still having to have the conversation about if slurs are bad or not, and it's frankly exhausting.
i might have adjusted my original post a bit more in the actual tumblr inbox, but this was the gist of what it said bc i always write down what i want to say first outside of the app (social anxiety says hi 🤪). as you can see it lines up with the conversation at hand— the conversation that was allowed and was still up, i might add— and i was polite about everything— unlike the actual hate mongering on the account. i really don't know where this attitude came from or why my specific post about queerness was targeted out of so many, but as you can see, they did so clear as day. to my knowledge, no other post has been taken down despite there being multiple continued conversations that are vague enough to not specifically be about fandom (like the morality of long distance incest, arguing over which hamilton artist they don't like, and people complaining about the drama going on across the blog.) those were allowed to be up, and i believe they should be if those are the conversations that people want to have about the fandom space. so why the detestation in these responses? it's not even veiled disdain. you would think i was the one bullying random minors just because i didn't like their art style or the one sending death threats. when a marginalized person expresses concern over something happening under your watch, why is the first line of action to be hateful and flippant while making excuses that don't even make sense and referring to rules that aren't even followed. despite all of this, it's my opinion it didn't even break said rules. the conversation at hand was about slur usage in the fandom. why did the posts claiming people were basically dumb for finding an issue with it stay, and mine get deleted?
why has the biggest crime on that blog—by the moderator's standards, the post so horrible they had to step in and delete and tell the person to leave the page—a gentle reminder that some people find the use of homophobic slurs a disrespectful practice when the word is in the wrong mouth. even if someone disagreed with my post, which is their right, why was it erased completely?
but that blog was taken down. and we thought it was over. but strangely enough last night, my anon box was filled with so many hate comments i had to turn off anon, and i have no plans of turning them back on. and it appears the blog was remade with rules but only one specific rule.
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now here’s the issue. whore can’t really be compared to homophobic slurs or racial slurs due to the way it’s evolved in culture. and let’s say whore is a slur. let’s go with that. just because you listen to music or consume content that has people reclaiming slurs, it does not give you the right to reclaim them and say them for yourself. that is ignorance. you can't silence a community by saying they can't take issue over SLURS with this excuse used over and over again when it's not even an appropriate once. something that will always stand is people should not be saying slurs they can't reclaim.
you all can keep playing around with that blog if you want. just remember while you're arguing and cursing each other over fictional queer ships, actual queer issues are being censored by the person hosting y'all for no apparent reason other than some unnamed person asking for it's removal and the moderator's apparent disdain for queer people asking people not to use harmful slurs. which makes no sense to anyone if you think about it for more than two seconds.
i'm just a blip in this fandom, and there's so many of you i haven't gotten the fortune of talking to, but you need to sit down and ask why you guys are doing this to yourselves in the first place. why are you continuously feeding in to a bullying platform when you know how it's effecting people? when you know the moderator's intentions have been made clear in just want hatred bred throughout the fandom? why are we so dead set on being mean to each other? maybe you think i'm trying to stir up trouble or be self-important by butting my nose into people's business, and that's your right to think that. but this account has split the fandom in two and made it's fun diminish for everyone involved. you can say that every fandom is like this, but i've been in the fandom since the beginning and active on this account for almost three years and i've never seen anything like this. if you want to see change and for the fandom to go back to normal, stop torturing yourselves and calling it entertainment. the drama was silly and fun in the beginning, but now with specific attacks on minors and disparaging an entire community by telling us to take our "queer concern" elsewhere and saying we can't speak out against people using slurs, it's gotten worrying.
obviously, i'm not going to tell anyone what to do or fault them if they continue to play the intoxicating game of ganging up on someone because they don't know who you are and you know you won't face any repercussions. but just realize it could be you or a close friend being endlessly harassed and silenced. i used to think there was no place in this community for things like this, but there's always something that weasels it's way in.
it's basic and you've heard it from every single adult in your life, but think before you post. think about what the intentions are. think about why you find all of this fun. think about why this person behaves the way they do.
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darkosomatsuconfessions · 1 month ago
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hi. i run a decently popular ososan blog (well, it's a bit dead nowadays, but still), and i've been pretty vocally anti-blmatsu for its entire run. i've been diligent in keeping every post free of any of it, and that's not going to change anytime soon, for the sake of that blog's remaining follower base who rely on it being a safe space away from the proshipping, but...
well... i just made a blmatsu sideblog. and i've been feeling a lot of conflicting feelings about it and about my personal sense of morality considering my previously strong stance against it.
something simultaneously really funny and really sad to me is that i actually still don't ship or support incest shipping in any other fandom. (i've never supported harassment over any kind of shipping though. so idk if i count as an anti or more of a neutral party with a strong opinion? well i guess none of that matters now bc here i am, shipping blmatsu lmfao)
i still find incest to be morally wrong, but my hypocrite ass just... eats blmatsu up for breakfast lunch and dinner. i'm tired of fronting like i don't. how do i reconcile these conflicting beliefs? how can i be an anti and ship it at the same time? GOOD QUESTION, UHHH, LEMME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE IN LIKE... NEVER YEARS
i'm gonna put my inner conflict in a bottle and try really hard not to think about it <3
i've wrestled with myself about this for a while actually— i used to have another blmatsu blog, way back in the peak of the fandom, that i deleted out of guilt shortly before making my current main and taking my opposed stance to it. part of me still feels like an awful person for "sliding backwards" and taking part in something i previously thought i was "over".
i really don't even have a good defense for it, if im honest, so i won't even try. i've heard every argument against it because i used to make them. in the end, it just feels right to me that the only ones desperate enough to get with these losers are... these losers.
i could never ever endorse irl incest because i'm a victim of it, and i feel like that alone should have ensured i would never touch blmatsu!! it adds heaps to my guilt about all this, because i feel like in a way i could be failing my fellow victims... but seeing blmatsu art makes me just as happy as seeing platonic art of them does. i just keep coming back to it no matter how hard i try to repress it. it's practically unavoidable around here anyways, sooo...
sooo. i'm done repressing! if that makes me a bad person, then i'll see you in hell. oh yeah, and if you like karamatsu ships you should come follow me at todokaras on tumblr <3 (no, i'm not THAT todokaras, i just stole their name)
TL;DR: I run a blmatsu blog and an anti-blmatsu blog at the same time and i feel pretty guilty about it. oh the thrill of a double life
Congrats! It’s actually pretty common for antis to secretly like « problematic » things, because puritanism inherently goes against normal human behavior such as kinks and catharsis. It’s sad that we have to hide to avoid abuse and harassment, but that’s how it is for now.
Anyway, going against the shame a cult has pushed into you must be hard, but it’s great that you’re taking that first step to understand and express yourself free of shame!
I also feel honored that you came to my page to confess this ^^
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johnslittlespoon · 11 months ago
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sorry i dont know how to be happy...and slight cw for implied sexual harassment feel free not to post this <3
but. bucky having a close call incident with one of the guards in the camp- the first person he runs into after *isn't* gale but the get the vibes of what happened and know they need to get *him* to gale asap. and gale is so angry and hurt but tries so hard to push it down to comfort him </3 his poor sweet boy has been strugglig enough and really didn't need one more thing. sobbing in gale's big arms telling him he's sorry, gale rocking him shushing him telling him he has not one thing to be sorry for he didn't do anything wrong.
giving me angst asks is so dangerous rn while i'm still in post–finale grief lmfaoooo count your days (buckle in, i think this is gonna get lengthy and i should probably just write a oneshot bc i have many thoughts but we'll see) (and yeah, cw for assault)
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i haven't seen anyone talk about this happening to john (might've just missed it tbf) and in a way i get it, because y'know gale is 'visually' more likely to be a target of things like that and we don't see what he goes through at the camp before john gets there, but i'm also surprised that i haven't seen more posts talking about it the other way around because i mean john literally comes into camp with a reputation, we see it right off the bat when the interrogator basically calls him on being a man whore lol.
i can see guards (hypocritically, bc they'll turn around and hurl slurs in the next breath) making offhand comments and passes at him, "nothing that i can't handle" when one of the others catches it happening one day, and the way john is so nonchalant about it makes them wonder how often it happens.
but one day a guard doesn't like the way he mouths off at them when they say something gross to john, and it results in john being shoved to the ground with the guard atop his back in a quiet corner of the camp, and he doesn't even hear half of what's being said because his ears start ringing and all he can remember is the feeling of the cold cobble street beneath his face and the shouts of the riot around him.
vaguely registers the guard moving to feel him up, his skin crawling, bile rising in his throat, but it only takes a few seconds before someone else is approaching and the guard jumps up so as to not cause suspicion. john drags himself back to his feet in a daze, stumbling away in the general direction of his block with his head buzzing, flinches hard when he feels a hand on his arm but realizes it's just brady looking at him with concern, brady who'd caught the guard on top of him.
gale looks up from his bunk when the door opens and he sees brady ushering john in, watches brady sag with relief when he sees gale's there, and gale only has to glance at john to know something's happened, rolls out of his bunk immediately and looks at brady in alarm. he sees red when brady tells him how he'd found john, but john is staring into a corner of the room and he knows anger isn't what he needs right now, so he swallows it down, moves to stand in front of john instead as brady leaves the room, reaching up to cup his face in his hands.
john's eyes move to look at him, but he's not really looking at him, until gale murmurs a "hey, you're okay", brushing his thumbs over john's cheekbones, and then he watches john crumble and his heart sinks. and maybe any other day, john wouldn't break like that, but gale knows he's already had a hell of a week and whatever went down must have been the final nail in the coffin because as soon as he's led john to the closest bunk, john's collapsing into his arms and he can feel hot tears against his neck and gale feels sick and has to keep swallowing to fight his own tears back.
he can feel how tense john is in his arms, like he's still trying to hold back from really showing his emotions even now, and gale pets his hair, assures him it's okay, "you don't have to hide from me, bucky." and his heart shatters when he starts getting whispered apologies through hiccuped sobs where john's face rests on his chest, gale shaking his head immediately, promising him that he has nothing to be sorry for, squeezing him tighter as he rocks him gently.
gale thinks about all the different ways he'd like to go out and murder that guard, almost scaring himself with the aggression he feels, but he shoves it down so john doesn't pick up on the red–hot anger, focussing that energy on holding john tight and whispering words of comfort until the sobs become quiet shudders, feeling him finally, slowly start to relax in his arms.
(gale probably hears john huff out a shaky little laugh when he tells him "that guard better sleep with one eye open until we get out of here" because the thought of gale actually being violent is laughable to him; he doesn't realize how much gale would really do for him, how much it hurt gale to see him stumble into the room like that.)
i definitely want to properly tackle this concept in a oneshot someday so forgive me for being vague in some areas, i don't wanna fully brainrot it out and then not feel the need to write something longer about it, you feel? <3 but hopefully this is sorta what you were envisioning. they both deserved better :(
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tithe2hell · 2 months ago
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Oh yeah I also watched LPs of Mouthwashing!! I really liked it. I can see exactly why it exploded in popularity because it does the thing of telling a very tight, self contained story, that doesn't really digress into a ton of backstory etc but bc the characters are built to feel functional, but also more "archetypes" that reflect types of people most of us are familiar with, it inspires people to connect to and imagine more scenarios with them inside and outside of the closed-off scenario that we do get.
Very good Very Straight Man Jealousy-solidarity Bro-Code yaoi built upon a strong foundation of Womansuffering (insert that one Marilyn Frye quote "all that pertains to admiration and imitation is reserved for other men / heterosexual male culture is homoerotic, it is man-loving"). The most gentle moment between guys being 1) Curly taking over doing the psych report bc Jimmy has been using it to sexually harass Anya by joking around and 2) Curly saying "dw bro....I gotchu thru these hard times just like before " (🤔)
I really liked Jimmy's character and how they wrote him as a shitty person basically from the beginning. I feel the way sometimes people write shitty people characters can often come across cartoonish and unsatisfying to me, but in this case i thought it worked really well. I think the reason why it does so is because of the efficiency of the story; we don't really need a lot of external things verbally telling us to condemn him or huge drawn out reactions to his actions; it simply shows us what he does, how it affects people, and leads that for the audience to participate in the reaction, in experiencing it. I think leaving that space for people to react to a story and have their feelings is pretty important in a work.
I think these takes of his character I read were one of the best I came across; (here and here, from a jimanya shipper lol so just heads up if u read other posts). The ordinariness of the situation I think is what connected me to it. Jimmy isn't a highly unusual sexual deviant separate evil species or anything, but a very sadly common type of man in these settings whose selfishness and demeaning of women is enabled by the Bro-Code support or cluelessness/apathy of people around him. He and the others are also in an exploitative and dangerous work environment that doesn't incentivize conflict or speaking up about ill treatment even if individual people are "nice." The connection between rape culture not just to the Bro-Code relationship but also to the overall working environment felt very clear to me, kind of made me think of reading Ducks last year for more complex and irl personal exploration of capitalism, environmental disaster, and experiences of women in male-dominated industries. It strikes me in that scenario that the men in those situations often are indeed exploited and under lots of stress, but still don't think of their fellow women workers as people...
In the end the story is fairly simple, I think I liked that it was short and had good emotions in it, very strong and impactful design to carry things along, movie-ish in that sense. Its also bc of its short length one of those fandom pieces where I can see it starting to cannibalize itself already since the original work only has so much material to offer, so fandom will just have to start eating itself and coming up with increasingly divergent works before settling down. Still, glad to be able to share the experience as a person of non-gamer experience
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ok i REAAAAAALLY need to make a dedicated sideblog for this shit now i realize bc this game is gonna fucking fully get me dragged into this discourse so i'm gonna make an active effort to stop putting these on main, but i can't see myself saying more beyond this in general but ANYWAAAAYS
so i recently made this post about the cognitive dissonance regarding this game and people using fucking CALL OF DUTY a game that is more or less a recruitment drive to make the US military look cool and try to get kids to join up and that GTA's wanted system is actually NOT rewarding you or something to try to play a dick measuring contest with coffin but this interaction really interested me and i wanna talk about it bc i just blocked them after they refused to answer the last question but this is a very specific kind of gaslighting tactic i'm very familiar with from my own days as an anti
i think p much all of us who are used to engaging with this discourse are used to like y'know, being called awful horrible disgusting things. this is not the first time some fucking weird random person came onto my content asking me if i was a kid didler or wanted to fuck my brother. ain't gonna be anywhere near the last time either folks, but i and Lord God knows that's not the case so i don't care what a rando on the internet says but here's the thing: you can't "win" this, but they want to win it. no matter what you say you are the absolute worst kind of dreg of society that should be shot behind a barn and no amount of anything would work. if i actually pulled a list of sourced all that would have happened was they would've doubled down on calling me an inc*s*ious p*d* that I would be willing to use articles probably written by "people like me." because YOU don't care about "winning" this argument, you just wanna get the facts out on your end. it's a catch-22 folks, nothing you say will get you out of it!
i started by calling them a karen, they immediately escalated the living FUCK out of it and tried to trap me in this catch-22 to keep feeling morally superior to me. me saying i don't have such desires and never will isn't enough because i like this game. nothing but me renouncing it will change it.
but here's the thing about antis- they fucking HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE it when you turn it on them. look at the difference. look at the difference between they were the one throwing the catch-22 at me vs. the other way around. what about you? you just came onto my post to harass me, so i'll say it back. how about you? are you just accusing me of these horrible things because you are projecting your thoughts on me? you told me to get a therapist: so maybe you're the one that needs help if so!
violent video games must encourage violence, riiiiight? and you support it because it's violent. Game of Thrones had in*e*t in it so everyone who likes it also is the same. and Demon Slayer, where the pfp is from is violent, so you support it. the main protag's little sister also gets a superpowered form where she gets physically older and a tits out kinda look. so clearly YOU want to see your sister in the same way, right?
and it went as expected. you can see the tone going from smug jerking off with a shit-eating grin to just annoyed while smelling their own farts like it's a rose. and the moment i started doing the same uh i got NO fucking answers and they stormed off. i waited half an hour for a response before blocking them
so why am i typing up this walltext? because i used to be an anti. i fucking guarantee you i would've called everyone who liked this game [insert horrible things] like 7-9 years ago. so let me tell you, you know what pisses off antis more than anything? more than ANYTHING? turning this catch-22 bullshit on them. this is the only way you can end this miserable conversation without blocking them.
it's all one-sided bullshit and the moment you turn it on an anti it IMMEDIATLY shuts it down. this fucker KNEW the answer and you know it. so i wanted to share that, if you ever struggle with this shit: well the best thing you can do is block them and to give a fuck about winning their imaginary argument, but this is the only way to make the headache end otherwise. just throw the catch-22 right back and that's the end. thanks for reading!
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Wow I'm new here, what happened with you and the hk fandom on Tumblr?? You are so cool what ...;;;.;.; You don't have to answer this of course, I'm just curious :(
Oh it really wasn't the HK fandom in general, more a few select people I think- probably 2-3 at most. Basically, I got semi-popular in the HK fandom for both ficwriting and my frequent headcanons/lore analysis essays, or at least popular enough for people to start thinking of me as such. Around the summer of 2023 or so, I got an ask that had something to do with the concept of Ghost as an adult trapped in a child's body which I said was kinda weird and sus, bc at the time the only exposure I had to the concept was from shitty porn art; pretty much everyone I spoke to previously worked off the concept of Ghost being mentally a child, in a child's body. Well, whoever sent that anon got really upset at me for 'labeling them a pedophile'- even though I didn't say that, I just thought it was fuckin weird- and the whole thing, as you imagine, quickly dissolved into a shitshow that I honestly still really don't understand.
I'd get constant anon messages from this one person about how I ruined their life and opened them up to bullying and harassment because people looked up to me, and even if it was never my intention, it was still my fault bc I was popular and needed to know that I had power over what other people thought/needed to be held accountable for that power. I also got anons from a supposedly different person who said that they hated how I conflated my headcanons with canon and how I came off as a really rude, pushy person, which only got worse bc, well, I have a pretty shitty temper and a bad habit of not letting things go- which resulted in said people claiming that I had a victim complex, and, when I apologized for that and explained that the reason why I tend to be so defensive was bc I grew up in an abusive home, told me that I was just as awful as my father. I turned off anon asks for like, 6 months and then when I reopened them I instantly got a message from them talking about how awful I was and how I was just another popular kid who wanted to tear people apart for clout.
As you can imagine, that really upset me, bc I'm an autistic introvert with paranoia issues who has basically no concept of what people think of me, nor any desire to become popular; social status doesn't mean shit, I don't want people to look at me just my posts, etc etc. I just come onto my tumblr blog to infodump, and my interactions with fandom are more about me just releasing stuff into the wild to categorize them, hopefully gain some fun interaction with like-minded people (I don't know how to initiate conversations and one-on-one DMs often scare me). I'm also one of those autistics who struggle hard with using tone tags/hates misinformation and will try to correct it en loop without realizing people are saying shit just to provoke me (the sharks are smooth thing is something i hate SO MUCH because its NOT TRUE and i DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SAYING LIES IS FUNNY) and me growing up socially isolated in an environment where anything and everything seemed to provoke a screaming match kinda didn't help with figuring out how to diffuse situations. So from my pov, I fucked up and said something out of ignorance, got defensive, realized I got defensive and was being an ass and apologized, but it just didn't stop. Highly triggering, pretty upsetting scenario. Doesn't help that the concept of 'adult mind trapped in infant body' is one of the very few horror things that give me the ick due to aforementioned abuse reasons, so I couldn't exactly pretend to be sympathetic towards that headcanon either
(and yes, me pointing this out resulted in them claiming that i was using my disability as an excuse, rather than pointing out the legitimate role it had in me not knowing what the fuck i was doing wrong in the situation)
It hasn't killed my love for the game or my desire to write fic for it (I've just been obsessed with Destiny/my Destiny ocs since I started playing DnDestiny with friends, but even though it's on the backburner for now I can still feel the special interest there, lurking underneath), but it's fullheartedly destroyed my desire to write/post longform essays, headcanons, or lore explanations, because I just feel like I'm coming off as an insufferable know-it-all who's trying to correct everyone in my path. I came pretty damn close to just deleting my blog bc the thought of being a popular blogger with unknown influence on other people's behavior gave me panic attacks- and am honestly still pretty tempted sometimes- but the amount of TERFs I would have to block and tags I would have to filter is what kept me from doing it. I just stick to Discord for my infodumps now, pretty much.
So yeah, that's what happened. Again, logically I know that it was probably only a few people at most, but bc it was on anon, I couldn't tell. You'll probably be able to find the whole fiasco on my blog somewhere if you look, I didn't delete it because I didn't want to seem like I was trying to cover up how much of an ass I was being. Judge it for yourself as you will.
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th3-c0ll3ct3r · 4 months ago
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Go support Vtuber Froot
TLDR IN COMMENTS
And before I see the comments about her allegedly cheating I just locked into it on my Twitter and the person who claims she cheated has publicly stated before this she hate Froot, was found to be editing screenshots, putting racist and allowing racist things to happen in her discord server, starting deleting nudes of vtubers for no reason, made up the "everybody makes mistakes" story by editing together out of context clips and creating a narrative and their only defence was that their edgy.
https://youtu.be/ulT3URmd5-g?si=c7X4wFXJ1UHMaTGD
https://youtu.be/jXRHToTzOuY?si=cu6e9pMJe_TMAe5_
People taking the story that face value is wild. I'd like to tell people that's saying that she cheated was a cover up because it's a manipulation tactic used by abusers and people who don't like you to basically get the first word in before something happens so it can be used as defense in the long run.
Like you do one thing someone takes it out of context and now you're at fault, and you can't say anything anymore because of it.
It is clear, Amt-hme (hime??) Did not like Froot. It's clear when her discord server and it's clear everywhere else. So for her to go out of her to scrap together alleged screenshots and alleged accounts then editing them together to make it seem as something it was not is the exact thing that I predicted would happen. Because now she's got little thing out and it was copyright striked and taken down people thought they were trying to silence the truth in actuality there was no truth there. I've linked someone who found some edited screenshots from the now apparently deleted documentary (another version is up but I do not know what this the original), it's clear most of it is not true, people don't even know if that's actually her discord, and Froot addressed it because the clips of her addressing it were edited together out of context. The only person who says anything about it is Ironmouse, who says that it's weird people are harassing her over something she didn't do and then taking pictures of themselves next to her leaked nudes, stolen off of a Google Cloud.
Ex husband, has not said a single thing. I thought he did but I was wrong. He has never in the entire history of the abusive relationship called around for allegedly cheating on him with five men from discord. He tried to claim she was cheating for other reasons which was disproven by her and you can check the timelines. The only person to have everything about her cheating is someone who would publicly hates her guts, and has edited screenshots in her favor.
Those accounts from those people who say "yeah she did", do not sound confident. You can hear them agreeing with what ant-hme says and it's almost like they're reading a script and then putting it into that own words, they are also been on her discord long enough to know that ant-hme (who I'll be calling AH not bc it's funny but bc it's shorter) that she despises Froot.
She literally came in with a point and no evidence. You can dislike someone but making a whole two hour documentary with edited screenshots and alleged Witnesses who do not know what they're doing is something that goes beyond the level of shady.
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*gasp* I've been curious about those people for quite the long time! But I'm way more curious about their backstories
1. Donna — Why's her surname redacted? At some point she had to be saved by Mr. B, who apparently set several hits on people that would angst Donna enough to go behind her back to do it.
She has several cops in her family, which must be important enough? Mr. B is with her birth certificate though... Maybe she had to be saved from her family and those hits were them.
Why not even the Angels can have something like her surname? And specially Finney who is her childhood friend, why he had to beg Mr. B.
2. Robin — Logically, it makes sense his mom is hiding, she's the mother of a influential mob boss, and it's canon that his dad it's dead. You said that her reaction to Finn would be a spoiler... I wonder if his uncle would make any more appearances?
I still wonder what that murder about Mrs. Rosella was about. I'm DYING to know how he met Vance and Billy "connected through whores and spa nights".
The Arellano cloak passed to him just after his dad died? How old was he? 10? Why his uncle or some other important mafioso took it?
3. Lenny — Once I asked Lenny's intentions before the revamp. You said that he was good, and was very enamored by Griff and was found of him. Of all the coworkers he's the one given the most importance, does he have any other purpose other than being kinda an obstacle for Billy and a friend to Griffin?
Who IS the spy that helped Billy? Maybe a crazy thought but what if it's him, and that's why he so nervous, specially around Bill and Griff. (Getting anxious when Griff asked if he was taking him to second location and all that) Why couldn't he just report Showalter for harassment? I don't know, he always seemed a little off. If he's working for Billy than it makes sense that he's scared of him and for Griffin. I'm probably overthinking it.
4. Billy — I have so many questions. Apparently he has PARENTS NOW? Wasn't he in foster care? Well, but he never mentioned being orphan, maybe his home life was very unstable, or his parents are already in the crime scene and that's why he was taken away from him...
The whole warehouse boy thing? What that has to do with him and why does it evoke so many emotions (sadness, anger, etc), it's been years. Certainly he killed the boy, but why take the heart if he's only a experiment? WHY IS HE AFRAID OF BLOOD? Okay, it can be a he thing, but afraid of blood in this line of work? Weird.
5. Mr B — He's a creature, I don't personally like him, but that's more because he's a billionaire lol. We haven't been given a lot of him screen time, but I assumed he once was a special agent too? Because Bosley joked that he was like the Angels that didn't knew how to do report?
When was Red Eyes created? What does he get out of it? He cares for the Angels but not enough to instantly take them out of the mission if something is about to go wrong...
6. Charlie — He's wholesome until now, I want to know his history with Griffin, some time ago before the revamp you said that he's a big part of Griff's life and past. We know just some basics things about how he contacted the Angels. I'm so curious to see his POV in the fic. How he landed the job? What are his personal thoughts?
Sorry for the long rant and for bombarding you with questions... I'm just excited for tomorrow/today/maybe not tomorrow updates! I probably had more questions but I forgot them with time, thanks for reading take lots of care <3
1. Her surname was redacted because she simply requested it. She didn’t feel like having it be knowledge within the RE & she never bothered to tell anyone why; Mr. B had his own reasons for hiding it though, mostly to do with the hits he stashed away in his office.
2. Mrs. Arellano 😍 you guys r gonna love her I promise!! the Mrs. Rosella case DOES get solved before the last chapter, bc i refuse to leave that unsolved. it started this whole thing n it’s gonna end this whole thing!!
also, yes Robin’s dad died when he was eleven but he actually didn’t take on the mantle until 15–which is the age most of the Arellano men (or women) take over.
3. Lenny is just a silly little guy I love him😭 but no he’s not Billy’s spy that’s a surprise that I think you guys are gonna like actually !
4. billy has foster parents yes! not his bio parents but his parents regardless!
warehouse boy was an unfortunate accident i fear n it definitely sparked his fear of blood. he was 17 n a little… obsessive.
5. Mr. B was once an agent! Although the Red Eyes is now full of younger agents—back in its conception, he was an Agent who amassed money to become a billionaire. Now, instead of an Agent, he is their prime beneficiary and director. The Red Eyes was established in 1967 but it took until 1987 for them to gain notoriety within governments and world leaders across the globe. In all honesty—he’s just keeping tradition alive. Doing good, doing jobs, investigative work too. Money (and spies) make the world go ‘round. Plus what billionaire wouldn’t want an army of elite agents?
6. Charlie worked his way through the ranks at the FBI! Very hardworking. In the revamp he is still a big part of Griffin’s life and he is so beloved. Although he doesn’t have a POV until the very end 😔 but he loves his boys!!
and thank u for the questions they make my heart full🥹🫶🏽
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"sometimes the actions of one character will hit a little too close to home for someone and so they'll hate that character. so what? it gets really weird when people who love riko or thea or whoever start acting morally superior for empathizing with how the characters suffered & loving them. it is equally weird when people who hate those characters act morally superior for.. what? disliking a problematic character in Problematic Characters: the Book."
Idk the other anons personnel problems for disliking these characters, but making this the reason for the average riko and thea hater to dislike them is bullshit. Riko has a huge list of crimes and is the villain of aftg so thats normal. But what people who engage in riko content complain about is people who harass them for liking riko (cap literally got his suggestive post reported despite all the suggestive andreil art out there being mass reblogged) and saying that people who like riko character (character. Not person) support his actions.
Everyone going to ao3 to read about kevin exclusively being hit on by morally correct guys bcs ew imagine liking a f/m ship and problematic media!!!! Like babe ao3 was made so that the co founder could read wincest in peace, jesus. (And problematic media in general)
This isn't even addressing the amount of utter bullshit some people give thea compared to other characters who did the same things and even to worse degrees! She teased jean for whoring around- (she didn't know he was raped. She thought it was consented. It was kept a tight secret in the nest, but you'd only know that if you were paying attention to the story and not just the gay fluff.) When nicky made rape jokes about neil. She was shunned for "grooming" kevin, when they didn't even properly meet till he was 18. She was hated for being angry at kevin in aftg but don't bother asking why! He left her on read for 2 fuking years! She was hated for the no harm no foul despite knowing she was brain washed (and being brainwashed is NOT a moral thing. "Ugh shes so brainwashed I hate her" (if you know who you are meet me in the parking lot) its bullshit. Jean condoned what riko did to him and all that other bullshit. And still THEA is hated for it. Why not hate the white male for it instead hmm? No, only the black women with a south asian last name! Lets exclusively hate her for it! We know youre just using everything she has done (and did in your head) against her to call her a bitch.
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j-onedrabbles · 2 years ago
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𝒎𝒚 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒏𝒈𝒆 𝒂𝒅𝒅𝒊𝒄𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒄𝒉 𝒕𝒆𝒏: 𝒊 𝒅𝒐𝒏'𝒕 𝒎𝒆𝒂𝒏 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒖𝒎𝒂 𝒅𝒖𝒎𝒑 cw: **THIS CHAPTER MAY BE TRIGGERING TO SOME READERS AS SEX*AL ASSAULT AND HARASSMENT ARE TALKED ABOUT DUE TO FAE AND NYMPHOLOGY IN GENERAL.** insecurities towards dating, body insecurities (i think you could call it that? idk? imma put it there anyways), food, mention trauma dump, chef lee know, mad lee know for a second wc: 1.2k a/n: I changed up some mythology for sake of story with siren/mermaids bc all I heard was the goddamn h2o meme
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Minho hummed to the music that played at a low volume throughout his apartment as he moved through the kitchen. Slightly dancing as he cooked dinner. He only started cooking when Y/n texted him she was on her way over to his place, stopping when he heard a knock on the door almost twenty minutes later.
Minho wiped his hands with the kitchen towel before heading to the front door. He smiled at the girl on the other side and invited her in. “welcome.”
“Thanks,” Y/n smiled back.
Minho closed the door and headed back to the kitchen while she set her stuff down and slipped her sneakers off.
“Smells good,” Y/n commented as she joined him in the kitchen.
“Thanks. I might have texted Jisung and asked what your favorite was,” the dancer admitted
“How badly are you trying to impress me?” Y/n joked
“Depends if it’s working.”
“A little.”
Minho smirked as he continued cooking. “Do you need help with anything?”
“I got it. Do you want anything to drink?”
“Water’s fine.”
Minho took a break from the food and grabbed her a glass of water, “Don't turn into a fish on me.”
“You don't have to worry about that. I only have my tail when I’m in the Fae realm.”
“I thought it was whenever you touched the water?”
“False narrative. I think it just adds plot to the media when we randomly get wet and become a fish.”
“Is it possible if you go in the ocean? Like, seawater?”
“Don’t know actually. Never really go to the ocean.”
“Do you want to?”
Y/n shrugged, “Maybe if no one was there.”
Minho hummed in response as he went back to cooking. Y/n watched him work, cooking looked like it was second nature to him. She really could watch him cook all day. Especially while he danced to the music that played through his apartment. If this was what dating Minho was like, she’d want this every day.
“Can I ask you a question?” Y/n asked, nerves starting to set in.
“Of course.”
“I don’t want this to come out as me seeming conceited, but uhm, why do you like me?”
“Well,” Minho sighed as he finished cooking, “at first it was because you were hot.”
“Thanks,” Y/n giggled as he turned to face her.
“But, and not to sound like a creep, I started watching how you interacted with people, or better, noticing how you interacted with people–”
“I like the latter explanation better.”
“Yeah, well, I noticed how you interacted with people– fae or human– and you were so nice, despite how some humans treat you. I think I started liking your personality and then Jisung introduced us. I don’t know if it’s because you’re fae but I’ve been, drawn to you, for lack of a better explanation.”
“Probably because I’m fae, honestly.”
“Maybe. I think if you were human, I still would have fallen for you.”
“Really? You think you would have?”
“You don’t think I would have?”
“Maybe? I don’t know.”
“Hey,” Minho grabbed her hands, “What’s this about?”
Y/n sighed and looked down at their hands, “can we sit?”
Minho nodded and led them over to the couch in his living room. Minho ran his thumb over her knuckles as he waited for her to talk.
“I… I don’t think bad of you Minho, but, there’s no way for me to say it other than, I don’t want to feel like I’m a body to you...”
“Someone’s made you feel like that before?”
“A lot of people, actually,” Y/n couldn’t look him in the eyes, “If you couldn’t tell already, it’s made me a little insecure about dating.”
“Come here,” Minho tugged her into a hug. Y/n wrapped her arms around his waist, laying her head against his chest, “I generally, never want you to feel like that, with me or anyone again.”
“There’s… more too…”
“You don’t need to tell me tonight. I can tell it was hard enough for you to tell me about your insecurities.”
“I think it’s better you know before we get serious,” Y/n sat up and looked at him
“You want to take this past hanging out at parties and drinking with our friends?” Minho’s voice was laced with a comedic sarcasm
“Even though we technically met less than a week ago, yes?” Y/n felt her cheeks flush a bit at her answer
“You’re cute when you’re shy,” Minho smiled
“Can we get back on topic? It’s serious,” Y/n steered back to the original conversation.
“I’m listening.” Minho squeezed her hand as reassurance. Y/n took a deep breath.
“You know the general mythology of fae, specifically nymphs, right?”
“Love music and dance but unfortunately they’ve dealt with sexual assault and harassment because of their beauty,” Minho answered, then it hit him. “Have you—”
“Yeah. That’s kinda why I asked earlier why you liked me. Anyone else that’s showed any interest has just looked at me as a pretty fae they can get with.”
Minho stood and paced his living room a bit. He wasn’t completely unaware of how disgusting people could be, but it hits harder when you find out it’s someone you like or someone you’re close to. “Min…?”
He couldn’t be mad right now. Especially when the girl he grew feelings for over months of just admiring from afar was trusting him with something like this. He took a deep breath and crouched down in front of her. “I know, you probably don’t want to hear an apology—”
“You have nothing to apologize for Min,” Y/n held his face in her hands as she looked into his eyes. “I didn’t tell you for some pity party. It’s something I've dealt with in the past that I thought you should know. I’m not gonna lie, sometimes it still affects me. I didn’t want to keep it from you and something happen between us and I just randomly push you away…”
“Promise to tell me when you’re going through it? Even if you don’t want to be around me, rant to me. I can’t promise I won’t get mad about the fact it happened but I want to be someone you turn to with your issues. We’ll take this thing between us slow, okay?”
“Why are you so perfect,” Y/n felt like crying. Only her friends have ever gotten mad for her about something like this. “Promise me the same? You’ll come to me when you’re having a bad day?”
“I will,” Minho cupped her cheeks and wiped away the tears that hung under her bottom lashes.
“God. I didn't mean to trauma dump. I feel like I've been doing that since we met,” Y/n chuckled awkwardly
“It’s okay. Trauma tends to shape us more than we like to admit,” Minho laughed with her a bit. “Come on. Let’s eat.”
The two went back into the kitchen and Minho served the food. It hadn't gotten too cold just yet but he still offered to warm it up.
“Holy shit! This is amazing Min!” Y/n exclaimed
“Good. I'm glad you like it.” Minho smiled
“You might just have to cook for me all the time now,” Y/n joked
“I’ll cook for you whenever you want. Just ask.”
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booksandpaperss · 1 year ago
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kind of obsessed with the fact you've slowly gotten more blatant with heartstopper hate lmfao😭 it's like. fine to me it's cute but NOTHING SERIOUS IS EVER GOING ON so I gotta be in a really specific mood for it I still haven't watched s2. definitely couldn't be a fixation. and everyone fucking loves it it's the best thing since sliced bread and I'm like. why tho. and then any critique of it is sorta dumbed down to "oh you just don't like how sweet it is but teenagers deserve sweet romance" like ok but why's it gotta be boring though. and too healthy like beyond normal levels of healthy. like this is missing even the usual human levels of miscommunication. and it gets resolved too easy. sorry this was supposed to cut off 4 sentences ago I'm realizing now in your inbox that I apparently have beef with heartstopper
LKSSJJSJS LISTEN listen. I don’t even hate it. truly. I even genuinely enjoyed myself during the nick and Charlie parts bc that’s the part that thought is actually put into. I just hate how much everyone loves it so blindly
honestly my biggest beef with it is that it’s marketed and treated as the most genuine and diverse groundbreaking queer storyline there is when that’s literally so far from true and it really really shows ppls true colors when they think this bc the sapphics and POC are literal props it’s actually absurd for a show that’s supposed to be a safe space for queer ppl
and god do I hate that part of the reason it’s so popular is bc it portrays these queer teenagers as never having a single, physical thought in their entire life. there was this whole plot centered around one single hickey that Charlie had??? and something abt the physical attraction portion of it all, which they did try to show btw, felt disingenuous to me. and I know that’s why it’s so palatable to a mainstream audience and it pisses me off and again it just doesn’t feel genuine. which is ironically one of the main arguments against heartstopper criticism: “it’s not cringe it’s just earnest” when yeah maybe it’s Trying to be earnest but when u look at it from more than a surface level lens it’s not rlly succeeding
and I know the aroace storyline in season 2 with Isaac resonated with a lot of people and I think that’s wonderful, and I actually do think that was something that was done well, but how can you have a storyline around asexuality when you don’t show the contrast in how it is being an allosexual queer person. there was a whole lot of romantic attraction going on but even more tip toeing around the sexual attraction aspect. and I don’t expect it to be like sex education for example in terms of the focus on sex obv , but the lack of acknowledgment of that aspect of the queer experience paired with how much the uwu wholesomeness of it all is played up rlly rubs me the wrong way. once again: it feels dishonest
I was actually talking about this with one of my mutuals the other day and they pointed out that it is very plain that alice olseman did not consult a single queer man in the writers room. and if someone can prove this wrong be my guest but I rlly don’t think the whole physical attraction component would have been done so badly had an actual queer man been on the team. feels kind of like back in summer 2022 when byler shippers would literally shun and harass anyone who even implied that Will’s feelings for Mike probably included physical attraction meanwhile Noah Schnapp himself was making jokes about it bc he’s an actual gay teenager.
not gonna even get into right now how Tara and darcy felt even more like props this season than in the last one and I didn’t even like watching their scenes bc the writing itself felt performative. that’s a whole other post.
and man, wouldn’t it have been so nice if there had actually been people of color in that writers room. On a purely surface level heartstopper has a very diverse cast but once again, peel away even one layer and you realize it’s a bunch of tokenism, which brings me full circle back to my original point: you can’t say it’s peak representation and diversity when it’s whitewashed as hell and doesn’t gaf abt sapphics despite literally being written by one. guess she chose her whiteness over her queerness even when writing a queer story which wowwww sooooo original.
okayyyy anyways did NOT mean to write a whole essay but u discovering ur own beef reminded me of mine lmaooo
all of this was to say that basically I’m not gonna pretend I didn’t enjoy myself during parts of the show, and I don’t wanna shame ppl for liking it that is not at all what I’m trying to do here, it has its own place in queer media and if a show like this came out in like 2010 it would be groundbreaking despite its issues (but again it’s literally 2023 do fucking better) , but I take issue with people treating it like something it’s not and with the amount of love it gets I feel like I have to be really loud about my criticism of it, especially bc usually the criticism of the show that gets any attention isn’t even slandering it for the right reasons and like. if ur gonna hate on something queer and popular do it right
oh and heartstopper writers? maybe try speaking with an actual teenager once in your life before writing their dialogue they do not fucking communicate that well
okay I’m done now finally 🫡
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just-antithings · 2 years ago
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hi! Former anti here. I was first in fandom when I was like 13/14, and that was...years ago. I know first hand how easy it can be to fall into the whole "you can't ship anything remotely problematic or you're a bad person" thing. It honestly is a really sucky, self-righteous mindset. Not only did I get pushed into it by those around me, but I also didn't understand what proshipping and antis were. I thought minor x adult and incest ships were gross, and i didnt get the appeal of them, and that's what people told me being a proshipper was about. And I believed them. Everyone else, even ADULTS kept showing me it was okay to make stupid "if you ship xy then I will come to your house and stab you :)" type posts.
Anyway, I deleted Tumblr for mental health reasons when I was like 14. I still read fanfic, but avoided talking to fans/discourse etc. Came back, years later, new account, different fandoms, now an adult.
I got so fuckin sick of ship wars and antis real quick. Even though I personally don't like or want to consume minor x adult, rpf, or incest, or even some quote unquote non-problematic ships, I feel so much better just...blocking those tags??? It's so much easier than harassing people?? I felt like my fandom experience was SO much more peaceful and relaxing. That's when I started seeing the pro/anti thing again, and I realized it was never about "oh degenerates vs nOrMaL people", it was about one side leaving people be and the other harassing people about anything they personally didn't like.
Anyway, long sleep deprived rant basically boils down to this: used to be an anti, yet now, despite having no "pRoBlEmAtIc" ships, I am a proshipper! Bc I honestly couldn't give less of a fuck what others ship bc I can block tags and mind my own business :)
Side note: proshippers are actually way better at properly tagging their shit than antis. So. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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