#The movie adaptation in my head

[capricorn-0mnikorn]

After my "Persuasion" deep dive: How I'd adapt it to a visual medium

When I started my Persuasion listen- and read-along, back in August (First post in that series, here), my goal was to provide an alternate introduction to the novel other than the butchering job that Netflix gave us, this year. This was actually my third time reading the novel, but the first time I read it with an eye toward explaining why I loved it to other people, and so it was really the first time I read it in depth, instead of just letting it wash over me.

As I was reading, I couldn't help but play "Movie Director," and imagine what my own adaptation would be like. Most of all, I'd take my cues from Jane Austen's use of Free Indirect Discourse (where the author's voice slips from outside observation to the voice inside a specific character's head), to decide when to show a scene from different characters' points of view:

Especially these bits (contrasting with the these scenes as they were filmed in the two previous adaptations I've watched)*:

From Anne's P.O.V.: from the end of Chapter Three / beginning of Chapter Four. Start with a scene of her walking in the family gardens, fade to a "silent" flashback montage of her first romance with Captain Wentworth, through the moment of her retracting her acceptance of his proposal, so we can see what she saw when she first fell in love with the captain, and also she was when she was happy, and witness her sinking into depression and regret as time passed.

From Anne's P.O.V.: The surprise visit of Captain Wentworth from the middle of Chapter Seven -- after a very brief shot of Captain Wentworth's face (the length of a half-glance), and his automatic nod/bow, shift to Anne staring down at her hands/the carpet, and the voices of the others somewhat muffled by the sound of her own heartbeat, to capture the feeling of:

she heard his voice; he talked to Mary, said all that was right, said something to the Miss Musgroves, enough to mark an easy footing; the room seemed full, full of persons and voices, but a few minutes ended it.

From Captain Wentworth's P.O.V.: The scene at the end of Chapter Seven, where he's talking with his sister Sophie , about the kind of woman he wants to marry -- have him in speaking in voice-over, while showing a flashback of him with Anne Elliot (a reprieve of Anne's flashback, except from his point of view, to show how each of them is haunted by the same memory).

From Captain Wentworth's P.O.V.: the scene of the Country Dance at the Musgrove's party, at the end of Chapter Eight, where he's watching Anne play the piano, and asking if she never dances (have the camera move with him, but keep the focus on Anne).

From Captain Wentworth's P.O.V.: The scene in Chapter Nine, where he comes into the drawing room at Uppercross Hall, and being surprised by finding himself alone with Anne and little Charles on the Sofa, until the moment he goes and stands by the window, awkwardly.

Also from Chapter Nine, where Anne is trying to get nephew Walter to leave her alone, we only see the pair of hands lift toddler Walter off her neck, and then, from Anne's P.O.V., turn to see Captain Wentworth holding and chatting with Walter to entertain him.

From the end of Chapter Eighteen, as Admiral Croft is talking to Anne, and saying:

“Poor Frederick!” said he at last. “Now he must begin all over again with somebody else. I think we must get him to Bath. Sophy must write, and beg him to come to Bath. Here are pretty girls enough, I am sure. It would be of no use to go to Uppercross again, for that other Miss Musgrove, I find, is bespoke by her cousin, the young parson. Do not you think, Miss Elliot, we had better try to get him to Bath?”

Have this be spoken as voice-over, as we see Captain Wentworth enter a carriage, and then see that carriage on the streets of Bath.

From Captain Wentworth's P.O.V.: The scene in Chapter Nineteen, where he enters Molland's, along with the group of men and women acquaintances, and is surprised by the presence of Anne. And again, after Anne leaves with Mr. Elliot, have the camera stay at his spot, but focused on Anne leaving while the women in his group gossip about how Mr. Elliot is spending so much time at Camden Place.

From Captain Wentworth's P.O.V.: The Concert in Chapter Twenty, as Anne overhears her father and Lady Dalrymple discussing Captain Wentworth, establish his position in the room, and then, from that angle, focus on Anne sitting between Lady Russell and Mr. Elliot, while overhearing how Mr. Elliot is flattering Anne.

From a general/omniscient P.O.V.: The scene at the White Hart Inn, in Chapter Twenty-Two,** where everyone is visiting and chatting with the Musgroves, cut to Anne's P.O.V. from the moment Elizabeth personally hands Captain Wentworth her invitation, and she watches him stare at the card with a frown.

[Anyway, those are the key scenes I'd include to show the lasting bond between the two leads, so that the declaration of love in Chapter Twenty-Three doesn't seem to come out of nowhere, you know?]

*(The 2007 TV movie, created for the American TV series Masterpiece Theater, and the two-part 1995 adaptation made by the BBC, and later released to theaters as a feature film)

**This scene is in the 1995 adaptation, but greatly abridged, to cut out the unnamed (but gossiping) friends of Mrs. Musgrove, and also to cut out the moment when Sir Walter and Elizabeth sweep in to invite everyone to their evening card party.

[jackklinemybeloved]

[…]

Percy’s warning to fellow half-bloods in the audience, across different mediums.

The Lightning Thief by Rick Riordan (2005) The Lighting Thief: The Percy Jackson Musical (2017) Percy Jackson and the Olympians Series Teaser (2023)

[ktstrophic]

Spider-Man 2 but instead of getting hit with suncharged shrapnel Alfred Molina gets hit with some cosmic blue jizz

[beatx-mavie-archangelx]

there should've been at least a full view of Fíli's body in the funeral scene

"Fíli you didn't deserve any of this" we all say in unison

[chodzacaparodia]

A popular teenager from a good home has everything anyone could want. He is the best student, the object of desires and the future heir of his father's prosperous company. However, something is missing in his life. Deep inside him there is a dream about something just for himself...

One day, he meets a loner at school who turns out to be different from all the people he knew. This person makes him believe in his dreams again.

The object of his interest has no will to live, no ambitions. He just lives from day to day. When a certain rich boy storms in and offers him a strange deal, he finally finds his purpose in life and starts trying. For the first time, passion and determination are born in him.

A pair of teenagers are getting closer to each other every day. However, one misunderstanding can completely destroy their relationship...

A description of a typical teen romance?

Kind of.

This is basically a Nagi and Reo's story.

Cast:

Reo Mikage

Nagi Seishiro

and special guest Isagi Yoichi who didn't want to be involved in this whole situation at all

[sunnylemonss]

there's no higher betrayal than finding out your favorite book has been made into a movie and the movie turns out to be absolute garbage

[straylaughs]

lucifer from angels before man by @nicosraf !!

[docholligay]

Lestat and Louis 5ever, their toxic gay shit is everything to me what a great father's day gift to me personally, this show is my exact kind of brain candy, please never stop.

(I'm in the middle of episode 6 please don't spoil me I'm having a great time)

[nicosraf]

out of curiosity now that i saw on twitter the topic of abm as a musical, what kind of song/melody did you imagine when you wrote angels singing in your books (for example lucifer singing in the fountain with all the other angels and michael) 👀 i dont know if u thought about something specific or not, but is something i was curious about (dont ask me why but in that part i pictured them singing and dancing SAMBA😭, but also i could imagine them singing a typical catechism-like song like the ones i used to sing when i went to church as a kid idk, so i wanted to know what is in your 🫵 mind with their songs and your intentions if you had ones) (and sorry if my english is a little off, it’s not my first language)

Samba is actually pretty close to what I hear !!

So I think if ABM got turned into a musical, what direction it would go depends on the intention (a serious movie adaption vs a fun unserious stage musical adaption), but in terms of what I'm canonically hearing for angel music, I believe the music is specified as rhythm-heavy with a long of string instruments, trumpets, and I think even a cowbell-like instrument is alluded to? Could be wrong but that existed in a draft at least.

Angels have all types of music, so catechism-like songs exist but I think Lucifer is really the start of music being used as a way to worship, so that comes post-Lucifer (in my head).

I know I'm being heavily influenced by my background here, but I really do imagine cumbia and related genres to be the closest to what I hear (my heaven is super latin american anyway). My angels like to dance (!) so I think a lot of their music is that upbeat, rhythm-heavy style!

But again, they have all types of music, and I think they also have a lot of styles that are a lot weirder/alien to human ears. I've mentioned Fellini Satyricon as an inspiration for ABM a few times, and I've always imagined bizarre music (like the type in the FS soundtrack) in the quieter/stranger/more-intense moments of ABM.

thank u for the ask! :)

[junk-culture]

forget being at the club OR at the computer. she should have been running across the moors bronte style.

[youssefguedira]

if i really wanted to i could contrast the old guard 2020 and diabolik 2021 as comic book adaptations and the different ways they approach both adapting their source material i.e. diabolik as an adaptation is both paying homage to its source material constantly and regularly reminding you that it is a comic book adaptation whereas the old guard is more trying to make a regular action movie based on a comic book, drawing occasional visual parallels that won't be recognisable unless the viewer is familiar with the source material. both are also adapting the story in some way for film, but diabolik stays much more strictly to the book it's adapting while the old guard makes a lot of changes (afaik there's almost nothing from the comics verbatim) but keeps the core of the story and essential scenes in. something interesting there about diabolik reminding us of the series' origin as comics probably due to a) its long-running history and b) cultural icon status (source: me and my powerpoint) vs the old guard falling into what i might call the current style of comic book adaptation where the focus is on appealing to a wide audience, comics fans or not, to the point where you might not even know it's based on a comic outside of marketing. but also essentially i think a comic book adaptation should match the tone of its original, which they both do: the old guard is a darker, more serious, more "adult" comic, and so it follows that the adaptation largely follows that tone (save for one or two parts that to me feel very recognisably comic book style), whereas diabolik is, albeit technically also for adults, a different genre / tone. and then there's something else to be said there in the evolution of comics considered adult, e.g. diabolik considered adult in the context of its first publishing because it contained crime and killing but generally becoming considered one of the more tame examples of the subgenre it spawned, vs the old guard being adult in terms of current standards via depicting sex / nudity / swearing / violence far beyond the scope of diabolik, which is pretty much unchanged. anyway these two things are not really connected beyond "both being comic book movie adaptations released in the 2020s featuring notable italian luca marinelli in a somewhat major role as a character who says vaguely ominous things and largely emotes through microexpressions" but it's fun to think about sometimes

[ennaih]

Not Every Film I Watch In 2024

6. Persuasion (1995) -- eleventy-billionth rewatch

and bonus:

[suv-draws-stuff]

The indomitable gascon spirit and strange rat man (gender neutral), now limbified

[dye-it-rouge-et-noir]

"But it happened, and so, a breathtaking history of 3.5 billion years had begun." - Death's End

2D animated segment from 我的三体 (My Three-Body) Season 4, Episode 9 / Animated by Ye Luoxing

Watch this segment in particular here

[ID in alt text]

[princess-ibri]

I would love to know more about your Nutcracker and whether you'd introduce things from the book or ballet into a DisneyVerse version

Thanks for your patience anon! Ok, here’s the ideas I have, used some of the look of the live movie cuz I did like the designs for some of it but will be a completely different story, based somewhat on an old story concept I put together with my friend @im-fairly-whitty a few years ago.

I see it as starting out like your basic Nutcracker ballet story, it’s Christmas, Clara gets a nutcracker from her godfather Drosselmeyer, during the night the mice come in and the nutcracker comes to life to fight them. Mouse King doesn’t die though he gets away and Nutcracker is still a nutcracker and Clara goes with him to the magical candy land of Cockaigne, where there are peppermint trees and lemonade springs and gingerbread houses, usually sans witches. (Basically Barbie Nutcracker Movie set up a bit, but Clara goes as she wants to have an adventure/doesn’t feel appreciated at home, she’s running away.)

They travel thru the war torn candy land and meet the Sugarplum Fairy, the leader of the ‘human/human adjacent army against the—for lack of a better word— vermin army that has been besieging them. The army is made of mice and bugs and other unwanted creatures that over hundreds of years have eaten the magical food that makes up the land and gained sentience and anthropomorphic traits which brought them into conflict with the humans. They are looking for the Krakatuk Crown, a powerful object that could tip the scales of the war. The Sugarplum Fairy takes them to the ruler of Cockaigne, Princess Pirlipat, who says she is the Nutcracker’s fiancé and who wears a mask at all times, the result of a curse placed on her by the Mouse King’s predecessor. She sends them on a quest to find the crown and save the land. Clara and Nutcracker have to find it as the main quest, and along the way we would learn about the Nutcracker and Mouse King’s backstory:

Years ago the Princess Pirlipat was cursed by the Mouse Queen, in revenge for Pirlipat’s parents having caused the death of the Mouse Queen’s seven sons in the war. Pirlipat is cursed into a hideous form that she can only be released by if someone with a true hero’s heart manages to defeat the sorcererous Mouse Queen and places the Queen’s crown of her head. (The crown could be carved from a magical Krakatuk nut to reference the og story and it’s where the queen gets her magic from). The court magician, Herr Drosselmeyer, believes his nephew Andre could be the destined hero and brings him from Our World to Cockaigne.

Andre, who also wanted to escape his old life where he didn’t feel understood and be a hero, undertakes the task of attempting to gain the crown by infiltrating the vermin army, during time he makes friends with the Queen’s one remaining son, Alexander, and comes to see that the vermin army are actually just as ‘human’ as people are and haven’t been treated right. He feels conflicted about his quest, but still determines to steal the crown and be a hero, and maybe once he’s proved himself and married the princess he could start peace talks?

—But of course it all goes horribly wrong. The Mouse Queen ends up being killed, Pirlipat’s curse isnt lifted lifted due to Andre’s not having a true hero’s heart (valuing fame over decency) .The furious Pirlipat tells him she has no use for him now he’s failed, and she will take the crown and use it to destroy all the sentient vermin once and for all.

And Alexander, now king and literally haunted by his dead family’s ghosts (I wanted so bad to have 7 headed Mouse King but I don’t think it could viably by animated so vengeance driven ghost brothers driving him mad it is) swears vengeance on Andre, who in shame runs away, hiding the crown so it can’t be used for any more curses, using it only once to banish the memory of its location and the shameful events from his mind, turning him into a toy, something tossed about by someone else’s will, stagnant, stuck in his shame and guilt. He’s eventually found by his uncle Drosselmeyer in his exile andwhisked away from Cockaigne by his uncle to try and find a new hero to break his self imposed curse, which Drosselmeyer believed he had found in Clara, not because she was inherently destined, but because she had the heart to learn what needed to be learned to find the truth and grow as a person, and help Andre realize he could grow and make things right as well.

So basically the pair have to grow and realize a true hero means being compassionate and trying to understand those different from you, and doing what’s best for all, not just what will get you fame and glory, rediscover the truth of the Nutcracker’s memories and stop Pirlipat’s genocidal plans and save Alexander from his growing madness (the ghosts are very set on wiping out all the humans as well) and bring true peace to all the people of Cockaigne.

(And Mother Ginger is a good jolly kind person who runs an orphanage for war orphans, and I guess she can have an eyepatch still but yeah she’s like, a symbol of finding hope in hard times and the Sugarplum Fairy isn’t bad either, she’s a victim of Pirlipat’s propaganda and once she realizes that she stops the big attack their gonna do and helps Andre and Clara stop the mad princess and she and her cavalier are a kick-butt power couple who are ridiculously romantic for eachother…anyway rant over xD )

[captainsparklefingers]

So. I had a thought. And I'm not sure how to resolve it, so, I'll let the rest of y'all figure it out.

Personally, I'm leaning towards a hypothetical non existent Barbie Dracula movie having Barbie as Dracula... if only because it means Ken could be Renfield. But she could arguably be any of them. Or all of them.

Except perhaps Lucy. Ken might also be a good fit for Lucy.