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Doctor Who: The Krotons Review | Earth Station Who

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Doctor Who: The Krotons Review | Earth Station Who

In this Earth Station Who Podcast episode, we dive into the classic Doctor Who story ‘The Krotons,’ featuring the Second Doctor, played by Patrick Troughton. Join the crew as Mike Gordon rejoins us as we review this fan-favorite serial from the 1968-1969 season, exploring its unique storyline, memorable moments, and the introduction of the mysterious Krotons. We’ll discuss the plot, character dynamics, and the historical significance of this iconic episode in the Doctor Who universe. Whether you’re a Whovian or a sci-fi enthusiast, our in-depth analysis of ‘The Krotons’ offers fresh insights into one of the more underrated adventures of the Second Doctor’s era.

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[kcdahippie]

#WatchLookout Jamie HAS his watch in this serial.

[thefaeriefeatherdark]

I think that there is something interesting in sci-fi about how we view Sapience and others view sapience because ultimately it’s going to be sort of subjective, but it’s a fun idea to mess with.

Like where is the thing that separates us from animals? And what happens when an alien shows up and has a different view on that and we end up not passing their test.

[fluffelhighwind]

This is basically what happened in episode two of The Krotons, right?

[6-and-7]

Horrible Things We Say May - 22 "So this episode is called 'The Krotons' --" "How many jokes are there about calling them Croutons?" "Not enough."

[doctorwhogirlie]

The Second Doctor: Patrick Troughton:

Click keep reading to see all the season six story reviews I've posted

Season Six:

1. The Dominators:

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2. The Mind Robber:

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3. The Invasion:

Story Review/Dvd Cover/Episode Image/Facts/Rating/Collage

4. The Krotons:

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5. The Seeds of Death:

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6. The Space Pirates (Missing Episodes):

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7. The War Games:

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Disclaimer: These posts are mostly so I can keep up with the things I've created, regardless, enjoy.

[demigodofhoolemere]

Things I can’t stop thinking about from Jamie and Zoe’s Tales of the TARDIS episode

- The very concept of them remembering and seeing each other again in general.

- How pointed it is in calling their mindwipe unforgivable and insisting that they’ll definitely never forget again. I get the feeling RTD or someone else involved in the writing of it has been carrying a grudge against their ending for decades and used this as therapy lol. Relatable.

- The recorder and the reverence with which they both treat it. 🥺

- “I missed him every day of my life. Didn’t even realize it.” 😭

- “I’d still be with him now if I could, trying to keep up with him.” This line hits so hard both because Jamie truly never would have left and because Frazer has said this same thing about himself and Pat, that they’d still be doing it if he were alive and if they hadn’t both been convinced that it was time to leave. My heart.

- This is true of these episodes generally but I love so much that they both had happy and fulfilling lives. Jamie got to have a wonderful big family and Zoe was still able to keep her growth from her travels and escape just being “all brain and no heart”.

- ZOE NAMED HER SON JAMES. NOBODY LOOK AT ME.

- ^ Jamie’s reaction to the above. The way his face and voice go so soft, I can’t deal with it.

- The fact that they were still influenced by their experiences even if they couldn’t remember them. Especially meaningful for Zoe because she needed those experiences so badly, so it’s a relief to see that she was able to use them and carve out a happy life for herself because of them even if she couldn’t remember. It brings such a happy bit of closure to the Doctor’s concerned question, “She’ll be alright, won’t she?”

- “I want to forget about the Cybermen!” with Jamie’s shifty eyes of disdain, lol. I bet he does considering he had to see them more times than any other companion!

- Lovely to hear names like the Krotons and the Quarks, along with a classic Jamie-ism in “wee little beasties”.

- I like the specific reference to Jamie’s face mishap lol. It was probably just to bring up a funny part of the story they just reviewed but it also serves as a nice shoutout to Hamish Wilson who passed a few years ago.

- “Well, who’d’a thought? President and a Highlander sharing stories.” That highlights something I love about the 60s era of the show, how you get people from so many times and places who never would have known each other but come to mean the world to each other. Jamie and Zoe couldn’t be farther from one another in time or background and they never should have met but here they are, both sharing so much love for the other and having had a bond so strong that Zoe subconsciously named her son for him.

- Jamie’s, “I could get used to this,” and happy wiggle in the chair, lol. That felt very Jamie and reminds me of his amusing character arc wherein he becomes more and more attached to future conveniences or technologies or comforts. I bet you could easily get used to it, Jamie!

- Jamie suddenly destroying the vibe by wondering if they could be in Heaven, rofl.

- Hearing them talk about Victoria made me so emotional, partly for the characters and partly because Debbie’s passing is still in fairly recent memory and it very much felt just as much like a tribute to her as for the character. I lost it over Jamie’s emotional face and hoping that she had a nice life. It felt so painfully real, an old man looking back on a girl he once knew and loved in his youth and hoping she lived well.

- These two, generally. I love them so much and this was so healing.

[adventure-showdown]

ive been following the polls closely and been compiling a per-doctor ranking for televised stories, to compare with the DWM ranks. it's fascinating to see which stories did much better (Edge of Destruction, The Time Monster, The Beast Below) or much worse (Day of the Daleks, Terror of the Zygons, The Girl in the Fireplace) on Tumblr vs the magazine, but especially fascinating to see which stories ranked about the same across both polls. the fandom seems universally to agree on the top five 11 episodes (Vincent, Pandorica, Wife, Eleventh Hour, Day), as well as the bottom five 2 episodes (Underwater Menace, Wheel, Krotons, Dominators, Space Pirates). are you planning your own comparison, or would you mind if I posted my own?

absolutely go for it. I will mention, for seeding the show I posted a bunch of polls asking for scores for each story, same way as DWM ran theirs, I did post the resulting rankings for classic who but not new (masterpost here) which you might enjoy taking a look at

[witchofthemidlands]

i probably sound like the old person that i am but i prefer dvds to streaming & i'd rather pay for a hard copy then subscribe to another subscription. it's not too difficult with the rest of the doctors but i seek help from tumblr today because every time i discover an episode of two's era i haven't seen it is either all missing or most of it is missing yet some of the ‘most of it is missing’ episodes have animations to make up for the vanished.

i currently have:

evil of the daleks the moonbase the macra terror the faceless ones the tomb of the cybermen fury from the deep the dominators the mind robbers the invasion the krotons the seeds of death the war games the two doctors

does anyone who owns second doctor classic who dvds know exactly which ones are actually on dvd? i have tried various searches & i have genuinely found more via second hand dvd stores 😩

[madmarkinabox]

Season 6

The Invasion

While searching for help to fix the damaged TARDIS, the Doctor discovers a nefarious plot to unleash an army of Cybermen upon Earth from the sewers of London, and teams up again with former Colonel Lethbridge-Stewart, now promoted to Brigadier of the newly-formed UNIT organisation, to put a stop to them.

This wasn't the first time I'd watched this one. The first time, a few years ago, I wasn't especially kind to it, writing it off as boring and taking too long to do anything interesting. Understand this from my perspective at the time: The Invasion is the stuff of legend. There are shots and sequences in this one that are totally iconic. The Cybermen bursting out of the sewers, their army marching down the steps with St. Paul's in the background, UNIT lobbing grenades at them. I expected lots of that. Instead, in my impatience, I got what I interpreted as endless loops of the following cycle: The heroes break into International Electromatics. They're spotted by Vaughn. They're caught by Packer (pronounced "Peckerrrr"). Then brought before Vaughn who leers at them for a few minutes. Peckerrrr chucks them out. Vaughn talks to the Cyber communication whatsit behind the secret tilting wall which keeps insisting that the Doctor "musht be deshtroyyyyed." Rinse and repeat.

But now older and wiser Mark has the proverbial remote, and watching the show from the start, I've sat through some utter crap to get back to this point, learned some real patience, and I figured out another way of looking at The Invasion. Instead of a big 8-parter, consider it as two four-parters, the first focusing on mystery and espionage, the second being the Cybermen invasion itself. But here's the biggest problem with The Invasion. You've heard the phrase "show, don't tell," yes? This story does the opposite. More often than not, it tells rather than shows, even during the height of the Cybermen's invasion. There wasn't this much avoiding showing us the danger when the Daleks invaded four seasons ago. But this is mostly exposition until the last episode. Did the production team get a budget cut for this season? The second problem is that the Cybermen, for the first time, are mostly henchmen until the second half for the real villain, Vaughn, and his faithful pet brute Peckerrrr. This isn't too bad though, Vaughn is such an enjoyably sleazy, smug bastard with his permanently cocked eyebrow and slimy voice. He's one more confident egomaniac who thinks he can control and/or is superior to the alien murderbots, like Lesterson, like Mavic Chen, Davros and The Master, though those last two are a while off yet.

All in all, I want to love The Invasion, I really do. I should, it has one of the absolutely quintessential Cybermen designs AND UNIT's baptism of fire. But it's just so dialogue-heavy, and could have done with a good deal of trimming especially in the first half. Some of the episodes need a bit of TLC too, the picture and sound quality is real rough. Final thoughts after this second viewing? It's just okay.

Next time: The Krotons.

Peckerrrr.

[rassilonwatchathon]

It's the 9 year anniversary of The Watch-A-Thon of Rassilon, so this month we're sharing our older episodes!

SECOND DOCTOR SEASON SIX (November 22nd, 2016-February 28th, 2017) Episode 44- The Dominators (Toba and Not Toba) w/ Vincent E.L. Episode 45- The Mind Robber (Sparkle Booty) w/ @benpaddon Episode 46- The Invasion (There Are Cybermen in This) Episode 47- The Krotons (The Crouton Terror) w/ @truestoriesaboutme Episode 48- The Seeds of Death (From Cold to Full On) w/ @typesetjez Episode 49- The Space Pirates (Bad Guys Don’t Wear Plaid) w/ @raisegrate Episode 50- The War Games (First of the Time Lords) Second Doctor Special- A Look Back (Joe’s Hitler Opinions)

[kcdahippie]

On this episode of Classic Who we get to watch The Krotons, which the synopsis seems to be fun.

OOO landing on a planet with twin suns and some initial tributes. Fun.

[doctorwho2022]

Doctor Who episodes that aired on the 28th of December…

In 1963, The Survivors (the 2nd episode of The Daleks)  

In 1968, The Krotons Episode One

In 1974, Robot Part One

In 1988, The Greatest Show in the Galaxy Part Three

[denimbex1986]

'The lack of advance detail about this episode had led to wild speculation about it possibly featuring returning actors, characters and monsters, while Doctor Who magazine even had a redacted cast list last month. Some pondered whether Ncuti Gatwa might put in an early cameo as the Fifteenth Doctor opposite David Tennant. In the end, it was a multi-Doctor adventure of sorts, just perhaps not in the way some people had been hoping.

Effectively a two-hander for Tennant and Catherine Tate’s Donna, it explored a theme we’ve seen before in Who during stories such as Listen or Flatline – that there is something nameless and shapeless lurking at the edge of our understanding of the universe, and it is coming to get us. This time, though, it came disturbingly in the misshapen form of Tennant and Tate themselves.

The show’s bigger budget was evident on screen, as that was surely the longest corridor the Doctor has ever run down, and the hover-car put the Segways the Doctor and Donna rode in her 2006 debut, the Runaway Bride, to shame. The robot looked like it would have been fun if it had been given anything much to do, but that it was doing not very much, and doing it very slowly, turned out to be the point.

This story hinged on the performance of the two stars and the work of the design and VFX teams. Tennant and Tate were impeccable. The look, feel and realism of the shape-shifting menace varied. As specials go, it didn’t feel as special as the Star Beast had the week before, but it finished with a lovely dose of the much-missed Bernard Cribbins, and the set-up for what looks to be next week’s explosive finale of the Fourteenth Doctor’s brief but welcome era.

Sum it up in one sentence?

The Doctor and Donna get the runaround on a giant slowly self-destructing spaceship … and find they are chasing themselves.

Life aboard the Tardis It didn’t take place in the Tardis, and it wasn’t with the real Donna, but as promised by Russell T Davies in advance, this episode firmly asserted that the destruction of half the universe during Flux, and that the Doctor was not born on Gallifrey, are facts in the Whoniverse. This will disappoint a vocal section of fandom that were rather hoping the new showrunner was going to airbrush out or undo the Timeless Child concept introduced during Jodie Whittaker’s tenure by Chris Chibnall.

Fear factor Remembering that there are children in the audience, this special managed to balance the chilling idea that someone – or something – is gradually becoming the perfect facsimile of you, with the frankly laugh-out-loud unexpected giant stunt arms.

Mysteries and questions This didn’t feel like it had any elements in it setting up story or character arcs, with the main mystery being why the Doctor usually uses the sonic screwdriver to read every alien spaceship control panel they come across if they can just do it themselves by translating some numbers. And is it really “mavity” now?

Deeper into the vortex *The Hostile Action Displacement System of the Tardis was first introduced in 1968 Second Doctor story the Krotons, and barely mentioned again until it was the reason for the Eleventh Doctor and Clara to get stranded on a sinking submarine in 2013’s Cold War. * The Fourth Doctor once told Romana in the Douglas Adams-penned the Pirate Planet that he had to give Isaac Newton “a bit of a prod” to discover mavity – by climbing up a tree, dropping an apple on his head, then explaining it to him “afterwards at dinner”. * The actor playing the Doctor has faced off against themselves playing the villain before, notably with Patrick Troughton playing both the Time Lord and the evil dictator Ramón Salamander in 1967’s Enemy of the World, and Tom Baker getting made up to look like a cactus as the anti-hero in 1980’s Meglos.

Next time Neil Patrick Harris! The Celestial Toymaker! A doll sending the whole world mad with its giggle! And presumably, as it has been in the trailers, we get to see Jemma Redgrave back as Unit’s Kate Stewart in their swish new Avengers Tower knock-off in London, and hopefully a little more Bernard Cribbins.'

[doctorwhogirlie]

Doctor Who: The Krotons

Season Six ✨ 1968 - 1969 ✨

Doctor: 2nd

Story Length: 4 Episodes

Companions: Jamie and Zoe

Main Setting: Gond Planet

Main Enemy: Krotons

Creatures: Gonds, Krotons

My Personal Rating: 5/10

I didn't mind this story, but also I was happy when it was over, does that make sense. Its a fun story, and honestly I thoroughly enjoy Jamie, Zoe and the Doctor, they might be my favourite Doctor and companions, so watching them in any story is great.

(Please don't take these too seriously, I am not a real life reviewer, just someone who likes the show)

[alaffy]

Ranking the 2nd Doctor’s Stories part 1

Been awhile since I did my ranking for the First Doctor Stories.  I meant to do the Second Doctor soon after, but time got away from me. And by time, I mean it took the better part of a year before I even got to rewatch/listen to these episodes.  The funny thing about the Second Doctor is that he’s one of my favorites; that being said, I can’t deny that so many of his episodes are just bases under siege.  But on with the list.

20.  The Space Pirates.  Not only is this, in my opinion, the worst Second Doctor story, I think it’s one of the worst Doctor Who stories period.  There’s just nothing to this and it’s pretty obvious, in some of the parts, that it was being shot around the same time as War Games as the main characters are barely there.

19.  The Krotons and The Dominators.  Both of these episodes feel dull and uninspired.  And honestly, I always have trouble remembering which one is which; which is why they are tied on my list.

18.  The Wheel in Space.  It’s an ok episode, but largely forgettable except for the fact that it has the Cybermen and it’s Zoe’s first appearance.

17.  The Underwater Menace.   It’s not as bad as that one scene seemed to suggest.  And I will give it props for the fish people (it’s a step up from The Web Planet).  Still, the story is just ok.

16.  The Seeds of Death.  It’s got the Ice Warriors, a villain that I’ve always liked. Still, it’s a base under siege story and, at this point in the Second Doctor’s run, it just has happened too many times to make this one feel special.

15.  The Mind Robber.  This one I had a hard time placing.  It isn’t particularly one of my favorite stories.  In fact, there are some stories already shown on this list I’m more likely to watch than this one.  However, I ended up putting this one slightly higher for the simple fact that this story did take more risks than a lot of the others.  Having the Doctor end up in the land of fiction, where the rules of reality are based on one man’s imagination, it is an interesting concept.  However, it feels like the story goes on longer than it should.

14.  The Faceless Ones.  Again, an interesting concept.  I did like the whole mystery aspect of why people were disappearing and then suddenly some reappear without seeming to know who they are.  That being said, the episode...well, there’s two things. One, the story is stretched into a six-parter, even though the story really isn’t enough for that many parts. Two, the fact that they felt the need to stretch the plot to make it fit six parts instead of, you know, giving Polly and Ben a decent send-off.  But I guess it’s better then what they did to Dodo.

13.  The Moonbase.  Another one that I had a hard time figuring out where to put on this list. On the one hand, it’s another base that’s under siege.  Also, slight points off for knocking Jamie unconscious for half the story.  I know that Jamie was a last-minute addition, so I do take that into consideration.  Still, I just find it to be lazy writing around a problem.  That being said, I do like how a lot of this episode is written. I like the fact The Cyberman have this horror monster quality to them.  I especially like the fact that we have someone who is reasonable running the base this time.  Yes, he is suspicious of The Doctor and his companions; but it’s not an unreasonable suspicion.  He’s willing to give The Doctor time to prove that they’re innocent and, when The Doctor ultimately does, the commander doesn’t suddenly decide to ignore the facts. It’s not that I think there shouldn’t be episodes with troublesome commanders (that would be unrealistic); but it seemed to happen way too often in this era.

12.  Ice Warriors -  Like The Moonbase, this is another base where there is a siege.  Still, this one is a bit different in that we’re also being introduced to The Ice Warriors.  I think the reason why this one just feels a bit different is because there’s a bit more time taken to explain who these beings are and what their ultimate goal is.  It does run a bit too long though (another issue with the Second Doctor era). Speaking of which....

11.   The War Games.  Why?  Just, why? There is so much to love about this episode: the mystery of the different time zones; the Warlord; the first real introduction of the Time Lords; and the regeneration.  However, it isn’t nearly enough for ten episodes and so we are just caught in time endless loop of catch and release and it just kills any tension this episode should have.