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And just in case you were wondering how the REST of the EU (meaning officially licensed audios, minisodes, prose, and comics) stack up against the TV series, wonder no longer:
A bit more discussion first
By and large, the EU stuff did not do as well as the TV episodes, which makes the exceptional bits that floated to the top most notable, and the TV episodes that didn't do as well as the EU stuff most execrable.
The biggest changes are to the Sixth and Seventh Doctors' lists, where the five of the top six slots for Six are now taken up by Big Finish audio dramas, with other audios sprinkled throughout, and his comics and prose faring generally worse (as well as one 6/Charley audio, wtf?). Seven's good TV stories still reign at the top of his list, but they are followed up by Lungbarrow, A Death in the Family, and Human Nature, while at the bottom of his list is shoved a full season-and-a-half worth of EU material that we don't care any more about that Silver Nemesis. Same deal for Five.
The highest-ranking EU material (if it can be called that) for Ten and Eleven are the minisodes Time Crash and Pond Life, respectively, both cracking their respective top tens (in addition to Clara and the TARDIS in the latter case). Otherwise, it seems the only Tenth Doctor audios we care about are a couple of the 10/Donna audios, and once again the list gets jammed with half-a-season worth of audio dramas we don't like more than Love & Monsters but that we care for a sight more than The Idiot's Lantern et al. I'm surprised Tumblr isn't more into The Sword of the Chevalier.
Oh, and I have to agree with the Thirteen comic Old Friends cracking into her top three. It's a lot of fun, featuring the Corsair and a nice culmination of the first arc of her comics run.
On with the lists; I have bolded any stories added from that previous reblog with just TV + 8:
First Doctor
The Romans
The Time Meddler
The Edge of Destruction
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Tenth Planet
Nothing at the End of the Lane (short story)
An Unearthly Child
The Daleks
The Aztecs
The Chase
The Sensorites
The Gunfighters
The Daleks’ Master Plan
The Space Museum
The Massacre
The War Machines
The Rescue
Marco Polo
The Keys of Marinus
The Celestial Toymaker
The Reign of Terror
Planet of Giants
The Web Planet
The Ark
Galaxy 4
The Cold Equations (audio)
The Myth Makers
Mission to the Unknown
The Savages
The Crusade
The Smugglers
Time in Reverse (comic)
Second Doctor
The War Games
The Mind Robber
The Enemy of the World
The Invasion
The Web of Fear
The Power of the Daleks
The Macra Terror
The Room with All the Doors (short story)
The Highlanders
Tomb of the Cybermen
Fury from the Deep
The Ice Warriors
The Seeds of Death
The Moonbase
The Evil of the Daleks
The Faceless Ones
The Abominable Snowmen
The Underwater Menace
The Queen of Time (audio)
Lepidoptery for Beginners (short story)
The Wheel in Space
The Krotons
The Dominators
The Space Pirates
Third Doctor
The Three Doctors
The Dæmons
The Green Death
The Time Monster
Terror of the Autons
The Curse of Peladon
Inferno
Spearhead from Space
The Last Post (audio)
The Sea Devils
The Scorchies (audio)
Doctor Who and the Silurians
Invasion of the Dinosaurs
The Time Warrior
Frontier in Space
The Mind of Evil
Harvest of Time (novel)
Carnival of Monsters
Planet of the Spiders
The Monster of Peladon
The Ambassadors of Death
Colony in Space
The Claws of Axos
Day of the Daleks
The Mutants
Planet of the Daleks
Death to the Daleks
Fourth Doctor
City of Death
Robots of Death
Genesis of the Daleks
The Star Beast (comic)
The Horror of Fang Rock
The Face of Evil
Shada (animated reconstruction)
The Keeper of Traken
The Horns of Nimon
The Deadly Assassin
Logopolis
The Ark in Space
State of Decay
The Brain of Morbius
The Androids of Tara
The Stones of Blood
The Pirate Planet
The Key to Time
A Full Life (audio)
Warriors’ Gate
The Invasion of Time
The Hand of Fear
The Seeds of Doom
Pyramids of Mars
Terror of the Zygons
The Sun Makers
The Sontaran Experiment
The Ribos Operation
Robot
The Masque of Mandragora
Scratchman (novel)
Image of the Fendahl
The Armageddon Factor
Full Circle
The Leisure Hive
Destiny of the Daleks
Meglos
The Creature from the Pit
Planet of Evil
The Talons of Weng-Chiang
The Android Invasion
The Invisible Enemy
Revenge of the Cybermen
Nightmare of Eden
The Power of Kroll
Underworld
Fifth Doctor (corrected)
The Caves of Androzani
The Five Doctors
Enlightenment
Earthshock
The Kingmaker (audio)
Castrovalva
Mawdryn Undead
Snakedance
Planet of Fire
Spare Parts (audio)
Kinda
Iterations of I (audio)
The Visitation
Frontios
Terminus
Loups-Garoux (audio)
The King's Demons
Black Orchid
Divided Loyalties (novel)
Psychodrome (audio)
Resurrection of the Daleks
Warriors of the Deep
Singularity (audio
Arc of Infinity
Time-Flight
The Awakening
Four to Doomsday
Fear of the Dark (novel)
Creatures of Beauty (audio)
Smoke and Mirrors (audio)
The Elite (audio)
Dalek Soul (audio)
Omega (audio)
Sixth Doctor
Doctor Who and the Pirates (audio)
The Holy Terror (audio)
The Marian Conspiracy (audio)
The Mark of the Rani
Peri and the Piscon Paradox (audio)
Jubilee (audio)
Trial of a Time Lord
Vengeance on Varos
Terror of the Vervoids
The Two Doctors
Revelation of the Daleks
The Apocalypse Element (audio)
Arrangements for War (audio)
The Mysterious Planet
Real Time (audio)
Attack of the Cybermen
The Condemned (audio)
Paradise 5 (audio)
Mindwarp
Something Borrowed (short story)
The Ultimate Foe
The World Shapers (comic)
Timelash
The Twin Dilemma
Voyager (comic)
The Doomwood Curse (audio)
Seventh Doctor
Remembrance of the Daleks
Survival
The Happiness Patrol
Lungbarrow (novel)
A Death in the Family (audio)
Human Nature (novel)
The Curse of Fenric
Ghost Light
The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
Battlefield
Paradise Towers
Dragonfire
The Grey Man of the Mountains (audio)
Robophobia (audio)
Master (audio)
Time and the Rani (previously listed incorrectly below Delta and the Bannermen)
The Harvest (audio)
Delta and the Bannermen (previously listed incorrectly above Time and the Rani)
Nightshade (audio)
1963: The Assassination Games (audio)
Silver Nemesis
Forever Fallen (audio)
Ground Zero (comic)
The Magic Mousetrap (audio)
The Shadow of the Scourge (audio)
The Left-Handed Hummingbird (novel)
Eighth Doctor (corrected)
Scherzo
Caerdroia
The Natural History of Fear
Night of the Doctor
The Chimes of Midnight
Alien Bodies
Zagreus
Unnatural History
Solitaire
Storm Warning
To the Death
Interference
The Red Lady
Mad Dogs and Englishmen
Shada (webcast)
The Adventuress of Henrietta Street
Camera Obscura
The Scarlet Empress
The Silver Turk
The Year of Intelligent Tigers
The Land of Happy Endings
The Flood
Neverland
Vamprie Sceince
Day of the Master
Ship in a Bottle
Absent Friends
The Horror of Glam Rock
Better Watch Out/Fairytale in Salzburg
Human Resources
Living Legend
Albie's Angels
UNIT Dating
The Love Vampires
Company of Friends: Izzy's Story
The TV Movie
The City of the Dead
Blood of the Daleks
Terror Firma
Company of Friends: Fitz's Story
The Blue Angel
The Turing Test
Anachrophobia
Fear Itself (forgot this first time)
The Girl Who Never Was
Phobos
The Eleven
The Side of the Angels
Stranded
The Sonomancer
The Crooked World
The Doomsday Chronometer
Minuet in Hell
The Gallifrey Chronicles
Stop the Clock
Company of Friends: Benny's Story
Other Lives
No More Lies
Company of Friends: Mary's Story
The Crucible of Souls
Paradox of the Daleks
The Eighth Piece
The Fallen
Seeing I
Immortal Beloved
The Time of the Daleks
Here Lies Drax
Faith Stealer
The Book of the Still
The Galileo Trap
The Gift
Songs of Love
Escape from Kaldor
The Burning
Ninth Doctor
The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances
Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways
Dalek
Father’s Day
The End of the World
The Unquiet Dead
Rose
Boom Town
Aliens of London/World War Three
The Long Game
Tenth Doctor
Midnight
Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead
The Fires of Pompeii
Blink
Partners in Crime
Turn Left
Time Crash (minisode)
Planet of the Ood
Utopia
The Waters of Mars
Smith and Jones
The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords
The Stolen Earth/Journey’s End
The Runaway Damage
Gridlock
Death and the Queen (audio)
The Doctor’s Daughter
No Place (audio)
The Creeping Death (audio)
Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel
42
Human Nature/The Family of Blood
The Unicorn and the Wasp
The End of Time
School Reunion
The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday
The Sontaran Stratagem/The Poison Sky
The Christmas Invasion
Tooth and Claw
Daleks in Manhatta/Evolution of the Daleks
New Earth
The Girl in the Fireplace
Love & Monsters
The Martian Invasion of Planetoid 50 (audio)
Born Again (minisode)
Out of Time (audio)
Dreamland (animation)
Expiry Dating (audio)
Wink (audio)
The Infinite Quest (animation)
Voyage of the Damned
Ghosts (audio)
Planet of the Dead
Fear Her
The Shakespeare Code
The Next Doctor
The Idiot’s Lantern
The Lazarus Experiment
The Sword of the Chevalier (audio)
Eleventh Doctor
Vincent and the Doctor
Pond Life (minisode)
The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang
The Doctor’s Wife
The Eleventh Hour
Day of the Doctor
The God Complex
The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone
The Girl Who Waited
Clara and the TARDIS (minisode)
Amy’s Choice
A Good Man Goes to War
The Beast Below
Space/Time (minisode)
P.S. (minisode)
Space in Dimension Relative and Time (comic)
The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon
The Rings of Akhaten
The Snowmen
A Town Called Mercy
The Power of Three
The Angels Take Manhattan
The Lodger
The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood
A Christmas Carol
The Wedding of River Song
Time of the Doctor
The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People
Dinosaurs on a Spaceship
The Name of the Doctor
Hide
Asylum of the Daleks
The Vampires of Venice
Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS
Cold War
The Curse of the Black Spot
Rain Gods (minisode)
Closing Time
The Great Detective (minisode)
Night and the Doctor (minisode)
Let’s Kill Hitler
Nightmare in Silver
The Bells of Saint John
The Crimson Horror
Victory of the Daleks
Night Terrors
The Doctor, The Widow, and the Wardrobe
Twelfth Doctor
World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls
Heaven Sent
The Husbands of River Song
Mummy on the Orient Express
The Magician’s Apprentice/The Witch’s Familiar
The Pilot
Oxygen
Thin Ice
Under the Lake/Before the Flood
Hell Bent
Dark Water/Death in Heaven
Flatline
Face the Raven
Extremis
Time Heist
Listen
Last Christmas
The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion
Deep Breath
The Eaters of Light
Smile
Knock Knock
Twice Upon a Time
The Caretaker
The Return of Doctor Mysterio
The Girl Who Died
Robot of Sherwood
The Pyramid at the End of the World
Empress of Mars
The Blood Cell (novel)
The Doctor's Meditation (minisode)
Into the Dalek
The Woman Who Lived
Sleep No More
The Lie of the Land
Kill the Moon
Grey Matter (short story)
In the Forest of the Night
Thirteenth Doctor
Demons of the Punjab
Spyfall
Old Friends (comic)
Eve of the Daleks
The Haunting of Villa Diodati
Fugitive of the Judoon
The Woman Who Fell to Earth
The Power of the Doctor
Village of the Angels
Flux
Nikola Tesla’s Night of Terror
War of the Sontarans
The Halloween Apocalypse
It Takes You Away
The Witchfinders
Rosa
The Ghost Monument
Resolution
Praxeus
Can You Hear Me?
Once, Upon Time
Ascension of the Cybermen/The Timeless Children
Revolution of the Daleks
Arachnids in the UK
The Tsuranga Conundrum
Kerblam!
Legend of the Sea Devils
Survivors of the Flux
Orphan 55
The Vanquishers
The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos
Tumblr Dr. Who Poll vs Doctor Who Magazine Poll
It's been just over a month since the end of @adventure-showdown 's monumental survey of how Tumblr feels about individual Doctor Who adventures. Across ten rounds, we sorted the wheat from the chaff, the Quarks from the Rills, and the Cousins from the Looms. I wanted to compare the results of that huge bracket with the results from last year's Doctor Who Magazine poll, which ranked each Doctor's stories individually.
The methodologies for these two were quite different (though adventure-showdown did seed the bracket with a pre-poll that used the same methodology as DWM, but I'm looking at the final poll results for my data here), so comparing them is really interesting! I'm not a statistician, I just like making spreadsheets for fun. I think what can be seen from the trends and data below is a really unique picture of two somewhat overlapping but seriously demographically distinct fragments of the fandom.
Methodologies
Poll Methodologies
The DWM poll asked readers to rank as many televised Doctor Who stories as they liked from 1 to 10. The editors then took the resulting scores for each story and put them in a ranked list for each Doctor.
adventure-showdown began with a series of Google Forms with the same method as DWM, asking internet users to rank stories from 1 to 10. adventure-showdown lumped and split stories differently to DWM: The Key to Time was included as a distinct Four story to each of its individual parts, and each of the individual parts of Trial of a Time Lord and Flux were included alongside the overarching story. Utopia was also split from The Sound of Drums/The Last of the Time Lords.
adventure-showdown used the resulting rankings to create a series of Tumblr polls, moving from a group stage into a series of head-to-head matchups. They matched stories up roughly by obscurity (keeping advertisements and musical numbers separate from audio dramas and comics, which were separate from TV spin-offs, which were separate from the TV show itself), then Doctor or era. With each new round, the matchups were scrambled within melded groups, which ultimately led to a diverse distribution of all different eras and media under the umbrella of Doctor Who throughout the tournament.
My Methodology
In order to turn adventure-showdown's poll results into something that can be compared to DWM's, I created a spreadsheet tracking how each Doctor's stories were doing, separating them first into tiers according to which round they were eliminated in, then within those tiers by how many votes they had in the matchup where they were eliminated.
In the case of some particularly tough matchups, this means that the story that got the most points throughout the entire competition is not necessarily the highest-ranked story for that Doctor. For instance, The Happiness Patrol finished #3 of the Seventh Doctor's stories according to my reckoning of the Tumblr poll, being eliminated in the fifth round with 400 votes, less than the two stories above it (which were eliminated in rounds where they got 147 and 107 votes, respectively). The Happiness Patrol saw a vigorous campaign to increase its vote count, since it was up against Blink. The post for the matchup that eliminated it currently has 304 notes as of this writing. This is one of the fun quirks of this execrise.
General Trends
Where We Agree
The Ninth Doctor shows very stable story rankings between DWM and Tumblr.
On average, the difference in rankings for each episode of 9 is 5%, with only 2 out of 10 stories actually moving up or down the rankings at all. The Sixth Doctor is similar: only 3 of his 8 stories (included in the DWM poll, meaning not counting the individual parts of Trial) moved by more than 1 ranking. The Seventh Doctor only had 4 of his 12 stories move by more than 1 ranking.
On the flipside, Tumblr's opinions differ from DWM most regarding the First, Fifth, and Eleventh Doctors. The only stories that stayed relatively stable across both rankings for these Doctors are as follows.
For the First Doctor, only 4 out of 29 didn't shift by more than 1 ranking: #2 The Time Meddler, #5 The Tenth Planet (#6 in DWM), #18 The Keys of Marinus, and #20 The Reign of Terror (#19 in DWM) For the Fifth Doctor, we agreed only 3 times out of 20: #1 The Caves of Androzani, #2 The Five Doctors (#3 in DWM), and #17 Arc of Infinity (#16 in DWM) For Eleven, 5 of his 39 stories stayed relatively stable: #1 Vincent and the Doctor (#2 in DWM), #4 The Eleventh Hour (#3 in DWM), #9 Amy's Choice, #14 The Snowmen (#13 in DWM), and #39 The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe.
As you'll see further below, there is usually agreement between both polls about at least one episode that is in the top and bottom 3 or 4 for each Doctor, so these extremes represent the battle over ordering the ones generally ranked in the middle.
We Hate Daleks
As a general trend, Tumblr seems to think less of Dalek stories than the general DWM readership.
Out of 26 stories with Daleks as the primary antagonist, only 8 did not drop by more than 1 slot between the DWM poll and the Tumblr bracket (that is The Chase, Genesis of the Daleks, Remembrance of the Daleks, Dalek, Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways, Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks, The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar, and Eve of the Daleks). DIM/Evolution actually ranked 3 slots higher on Tumblr than the magazine, while TMA/TWF and Eve finished significantly higher on Tumblr than in the magazine, cracking into the top 5 for their respective Doctors.
out of 18 cybermen, 5 stay 9 fall, 4 rise
We Love The Master
Meanwhile, out of 26 stories featuring the Master, either as the primary antagonist or as an important character, only two dropped by more than one place in the rankings (The End of Time and The Power of the Doctor), while the others either stayed put or increased their positions, some by quite a lot (e.g. The Time Monster (up 20 slots in the Third Doctor rankings), The Keeper of Traken (up 8 slots in the Fourth Doctor rankings), Planet of Fire (up 6 spots in the Fifth Doctor rankings), and The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar (up 9 spots in the Twelfth Doctor rankings)).
We Have No Easily Observable Feelings About the Cybermen
Out of 18 Cyberman stories, 9 fell in the rankings between DWM and Tumblr, while 5 stayed within 1 rank of the DWM poll, and 4 rose. If I had to venture a hypothesis based on my unscientific qualitative analysis, it looks like Tumblr marked down most of the Classic Who Cyberman stories (only The Tenth Planet, The Invasion, and Attack staying within 1 rank of the DWM poll), while the only ones that rose in the ranks were New Who stories (Rise/The Age of Steel, Closing Time, Nightmare in Silver, and Dark Water/Death in Heaven-- though of course this last one is also a Master story, which we know we love).
Superlatives
Here are the stories that showed the biggest positive and negative difference in their rankings between the DWM poll and the Tumblr bracket, for each Doctor:
First Doctor
Biggest jump: #10 The Sensorites (up from #27 in DWM) Biggest fall: #28 The Crusade (down from #13 in DWM)
Second Doctor
Biggest jump: #8 The Highlanders (up from #16 in DWM) Biggest fall: #14 The Evil of the Daleks (down from #14 in DWM)
Third Doctor
Biggest jump: #4 The Time Monster (up from #24 in DWM) Biggest fall: #21 Day of the Daleks (down from #11 in DWM)
Fourth Doctor
Biggest jump: #7 The Horns of Nimon (up from #40 in DWM) Biggest fall: #36 The Talons of Weng-Chiang (down from #5 in DWM)
Fifth Doctor
Biggest jump: TIE #8 Planet of Fire (up from #14) and #13 Warriors of the Deep (up from #19) Biggest fall: TIE #14 The Visitation (down from #7) and #19 The Awakening (down from #12)
Sixth Doctor
Biggest jump: #1 The Mark of the Rani (up from #5 in DWM) Biggest fall: #6 Revelation of the Daleks (down from #1 in DWM) [NB: not counting each part of Trial, since DWM didn't include them - though The Ultimate Foe ranked #10 on Tumblr while Trial itself ranked #4 in DWM, so that could be another option for this superlative]
Seventh Doctor
Biggest jump: #3 The Happiness Patrol (up from #7 in DWM) Biggest fall: #12 Silver Nemesis (down from #9 in DWM)
Ninth Doctor
Biggest jump: #5 The End of the World (up from #7 in DWM) Biggest fall: #7 Rose (down from #5 in DWM)
Tenth Doctor
Biggest jump: #17 42 (up from #31 in DWM) Biggest fall: #29 The Girl in the Fireplace (down from #7 in DWM) [NB: adventure-showdown split Utopia and The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords where DWM didn't, which both placed above these two stories.]
Eleventh Doctor
Biggest jump: #13 The Rings of Akhaten (up from #34 in DWM) Biggest fall: #36 The Crimson Horror (down from #18 in DWM)
Twelfth Doctor
Biggest jump: #20 The Eaters of Light (up from #30 in DWM) Biggest fall: #18 The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion (down from #7 in DWM)
Thirteenth Doctor
Biggest jump: TIE #1 Demons of the Punjab (up from #5), #2 Spyfall (up from #6), and #3 Eve of the Daleks (up from #7) Biggest fall: #15 Rosa (down from #4) [NB: not counting each part of Flux, since DWM didn't include them - though The Vanquishers ranked #29 on Tumblr while Flux itself ranked #12 in DWM, so that could be another option for this superlative]
Definitive Bests and Worsts
Here, then, are each Doctor's commonly agreed-upon best and worst stories: that is, those stories ranked in each Doctor's top/bottom 10% (minimum 3) in each poll, and where both polls overlap. Lists are alphabetical.
First Doctor (top/bottom 3)
Best Both agree: The Time Meddler Tumblr: The Edge of Destruction, The Romans DWM: The Dalek Invasion of Earth, The Daleks' Master Plan Worst Tumblr: The Crusade, The Savages, The Smugglers DWM: The Sensorites, The Space Museum, The Web Planet
Second Doctor (top/bottom 3)
Best Both agree: The War Games Tumblr: The Enemy of the World, The Mind Robber DWM: The Power of the Daleks, Tomb of the Cybermen Worst Both agree: The Dominators, The Space Pirates Tumblr: The Krotons DWM: The Underwater Menace
Third Doctor (top/bottom 3)
Best Both agree: The Green Death Tumblr: The Dæmons, The Three Doctors DWM: Inferno, Spearhead from Space Worst Both agree: The Mutants Tumblr: Death to the Daleks, Planet of the Daleks DWM: The Monster of Peladon, The Time Monster
Fourth Doctor (top/bottom 4)
Best Both agree: City of Death, Genesis of the Daleks, Robots of Death Tumblr: The Horror of Fang Rock DWM: Pyramids of Mars Worst Both agree: The Power of Kroll, Underworld Tumblr: Nightmare of Eden, Revenge of the Cybermen DWM: The Horns of Nimon, Meglos
Fifth Doctor (top/bottom 3)
Best Both agree: The Caves of Androzani, The Five Doctors Tumblr: Enlightenment DWM: Earthshock Worst Both agree: Time-Flight Tumblr: The Awakening, Four to Doomsday DWM: The King's Demons, Warriors of the Deep
Sixth Doctor (top/bottom 3)
Best Both agree: Vengeance on Varos Tumblr: The Mark of the Rani, Trial of a Time Lord (considered as a whole) Worst Both agree: Timelash, The Twin Dilemma Tumblr: The Ultimate Evil (specifically) DWM: Attack of the Cybermen
Seventh Doctor (top/bottom 3)
Best Both agree: Remembrance of the Daleks, Survival Tumblr: The Happiness Patrol DWM: The Curse of Fenric Worst Both agree: Delta and the Bannermen, Time and the Rani Tumblr: Silver Nemesis DWM: Paradise Towers
Ninth Doctor (top/bottom 3)
Best Both agree: Bad Wolf/The Parting of Ways, Dalek, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances Worst Both agree: Aliens of London/World War Three, Boom Town, The Long Game
Tenth Doctor (top/bottom 4)
Best Both agree: Blink, Midnight, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead Tumblr: The Fires of Pompeii DWM: Human Nature/The Family of Blood Worst Both agree: The Idiot's Lantern, The Lazarus Experiment Tumblr: The Next Doctor, The Shakespeare Code DWM: Fear Her, Love & Monsters
Eleventh Doctor (top/bottom 4)
Best Both agree: The Eleventh Hour, The Pandorica Opens, Vincent and the Doctor Tumblr: The Doctor's Wife DWM: Day of the Doctor Worst Both agree: The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe Tumblr: The Crimson Horror, Night Terrors, Victory of the Daleks DWM: The Curse of the Black Spot, Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, Nightmare in Silver
Twelfth Doctor (top/bottom 4)
Best Both agree: Heaven Sent, Mummy on the Orient Express, World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls Tumblr: The Husbands of River Song DWM: Flatline Worst Both agree: In the Forest of the Night, Kill the Moon, Sleep No More Tumblr: The Lie of the Land DWM: The Woman Who Lived
Thirteenth Doctor (top/bottom 3)
[Villa Diodati gif included because there is no overlap in the two polls' top 3 for Thirteen, however this episode ranked #4 on Tumblr and #2 in DWM, so it is the closest overlap at the top.]
Best Both agree: None! Tumblr: Eve of the Daleks, Demons of the Punjab, Spyfall DWM: Fugitive of the Judoon, The Haunting of Villa Diodati, The Power of the Doctor Worst Both agree: The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos, Orphan 55 Tumblr: The Vanquishers (on its own) DWM: Legend of the Sea Devils
...What about Eight?
Who said that? I thought you had all gone. You shouldn't scare me like that. Well, you see, the Eighth Doctor only has two televised appearances in which he features, and only one of those was included in the DWM poll. This post is about comparing the two polls. I can't really do anything...
Ah, alright.
Televised Appearances
We ranked The Night of the Doctor above the TV Movie. Night made it all the way to round 6, while the TV Movie was out in Round 2, losing with 266 votes to Jubilee, which then lost to Scherzo in the next round. Night lost to Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways, which had 344 votes to Night's 204.
Audios
Scherzo made it to the quarter-finals of the Tumblr poll! It lost out to Midnight 435 to 581, the first TV episode it encountered in adventure-showdown's very intricate media-segregating bracket.
Caerdroia made it to round 7, losing to Scherzo after it had beaten out Father's Day in round 6 (299-280) and the much-loved SJA episode The Curse of Clyde Langer in round 5.
The Natural History of Fear made it to round 6, finally losing out to Blink (253-352), and making it the top-scoring Eight audio to go out in this round.
The Chimes of Midnight also got to round 6, finally just losing to Remembrance of the Daleks (163-166); in the same round, Zagreus lost to Scherzo (131-210) just after it had beaten Genesis of the Daleks (132-103) in round 5.
The next highest-ranked Eight* audio is Solitaire (a Companion Chronicle, hence the asterisk), which was eliminated in round 5, losing to Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead (180-43).
It's worth noting here, that Doctor Who and the Pirates also made it to round 6, making it the highest-ranked non-Eighth Doctor audio. It lost to City of Death (170-78). The next-highest ranked audios are The Marian Conspiracy (lost in Round 5 to The Wedding of Sarah-Jane Smith), The Holy Terror (lost in Round 5 to The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances), and A Death in the Family (lost in Round 5 to The Natural History of Fear). Congratulations to Evelyn Smythe.
Novels
The EDA Alien Bodies managed to make it to round 6, finally being eliminated by Turn Left with 145 votes to 264. It had just beaten out Time Crash in the previous round. This makes it the highest-ranked Doctor Who novel overall, according to this Tumblr tournament.
The next-highest novel for the Eighth Doctor was Unnatural History, which was defeated in round 5 by The Chimes of Midnight.
Below that, there were five EDAs eliminated in round 4:
Interference (lost with 41 votes to Scherzo's 85)
Mad Dogs and Englishmen (lost with 38 votes to The Marian Conspiracy's 56)
The Adventuress of Henrietta Street (lost with 28 votes to A Death in the Family's 54)
Camera Obscura (lost with 27 votes to Lungbarrow's 47)
The Scarlet Empress (lost with 22 votes to The Chimes of Midnight's 102)
Comics
I hadn't actually been tracking any of this Eight stuff, so I'm having to squint through the backlog and this is already much too long. So you're only getting two: The Land of Happy Endings is the Eighth Doctor comic that made it the farthest in the Tumblr competition, being eliminated in round 3 by An Adventure in Space and Time (46 votes to 95). The Flood also made it to round 3, where it was eliminated by the Thirteenth Doctor comic Old Friends, gaining 39 votes against Old Friends' 47.
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alright, I think it’s about time I give Tomb a spin. Yeah I’m about two months late for its 55th anniversary but that’s life. rest assured it will not be as obnoxious as my re-”watches” of anything containing missing episodes, since I don’t have camera scripts for this one (tbh I’m not even sure if they’re available anywhere? I know there are published books of the scripts for this & power, but I thought I heard somewhere that they’re clearly transcripts of the episodes rather than the thing that was used for shooting them? idk, I don’t own either)
but Tomb: it’s been a bit since I’ve watched it, I can’t say it’s one I return to suuuper often - I don’t dislike it, but I think it’s hard not to view it as being overrated, generally. I’m not even sure if this is a genuine difference in tastes between myself & the larger Dr Who fandom, or if it’s just a matter of most people not having the stomach for large amounts of black&white 60s pacing and oh look this is one of only two complete 4-parters. Because if your attention span limits you to this & the Krotons, then by all means, describe this as your favorite Troughton serial - but then again, I’ve heard it was hailed as a lost classic before it was ever found, and I recall not even particularly enjoying the Target Novel, so to some degree the level of popular interest in it remains inscrutable to me.
in general I feel like it’s got its share of good bits but its plot just underwhelms me compared to some other serials from that season, and I can’t say I have particularly strong feelings about most of the supporting cast, which is also a shame & something of a rarity in Season 5. the racial issues are I think their own thing, because while I could see them being a blanket turn-off for some people in some ways, I think they’re actually fairly complex and deserving of more attention than that, and they say a lot about what’s being attempted vs achieved in that era, possibly moreso than any other serial from the time
those are my rough feelings on it now, let’s see if anything changes with this watch through
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And then Big Finish went ahead and produced ‘Prison in Space’. [SPOILER: It really should have stayed unmade.]
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Picture: Back in the ops room. The Brigadier, Zoe, Two, and Isobel, along with Benton and some other soldiers.
Infotext: At its inception in March 1968, ‘The Invasion’ was to have been followed by ‘Doctor Who and the Dreamspinner’. That serial was written off in April, and by the end of the month a new adventure was on the schedule. Nothing is known about it, and by June it had been superseded by ‘The Prison in Space’, a comedy set on a planet of dominant women. The finished scripts came in towards the end of the location filming for ‘The Invasion’, but were only abandoned on 15 October, during rehearsals for Episode 4. This saved the Doctor from a marriage proposal, Jamie from spending an episode in drag, and Zoe from getting spanked, and left them with the serial that eventually got made, ‘The Krotons’.
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Classic Who: Season 6
The Dominators:
Episode 1: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 2: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 3: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 4: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 5: Video [Dailymotion]
The Mind Robber:
Episode 1: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 2: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 3: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 4: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 5: Video [Dailymotion]
The Invasion:
Episode 1: Animation [Dailymotion]
Episode 2: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 3: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 4: Animation [Dailymotion]
Episode 5: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 6: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 7: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 8: Video [Dailymotion]
The Krotons:
Episode 1: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 2: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 3: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 4: Video [Dailymotion]
The Seeds of Death:
Episode 1: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 2: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 3: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 4: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 5: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 6: Video [Dailymotion]
The Space Pirates:
Episode 1: Audio [Dailymotion] (tele-snap)
Episode 2: Video [archive]
Episode 3: Audio [Dailymotion] (tele-snap)
Episode 4: Audio [Dailymotion] (tele-snap)
Episode 5: Audio [Dailymotion] (tele-snap)
Episode 6: Audio [Dailymotion] (tele-snap)
The War Games:
Episode 1: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 2: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 3: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 4: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 5: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 6: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 7: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 8: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 9: Video [Dailymotion]
Episode 10: Video [Dailymotion]
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Five-ish Possible Showrunners for Doctor Who
It’s nothing new that people are displeased with Chris Chibnall as showrunner for Doctor Who. Throughout his tenure, he’s consistently been the weakest link in the chains holding the show together. That being said, people weren’t very happy about Steven Moffat either, and I’m sure even Russel T Davies had his fair share of detractors. It seems that no matter who is in the role of showrunner, someone will always find something to complain about.
After last night’s episode, I’ve seen the usual wingeing about Chris Chibnall. People have been calling for his removal as showrunner. Personally, I feel like Chibnall has actually progressed as an artist since he first took the reins. Series twelve was a marked improvement upon series eleven. But all of this talk got me thinking about who might be better suited to for the job. What people would I like to see in the hot seat? Let me reiterate- this is not me calling for Chibnall’s removal from the show (kinda). This is simply a thought exercise. Feel free to comment your picks as well!
1. Edgar Wright
When devising this list, Edgar Wright was the first person I thought of for the job of showrunner. With such titles as "Shaun of the Dead," "Hot Fuzz," and "Scott Pilgrim vs The World," under his belt, it's easy to see why. Already established as a great British director, writer, and producer, he clearly has the chops to take the job. This is the man who was too weird for the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and they once put out a movie about a talking raccoon with tree friend and love for heavy artillery.
My only reservation is whether or not he would actually take the job. It's not as though Mr Wright is in low demand. Would he be interested in taking what is most likely a pay cut while also working on the BBC's tight budget? If the Beeb could be smart enough to let the man have artistic freedom, we could easily end up with one of the best series of Doctor Who in years. Even if it only was just for one year.
2. Ben Wheatley & Amy Jump
This one may seem like a bit of an odd choice, but maybe not as odd as you would imagine. Coming from a more art film background, this husband/wife duo are more than capable of bringing the goods. Having both worked in film and animation I could see their skills put toward Doctor Who with great success. Neither one of them is a stranger to the process of writing, producing, or directing.
You may find them a bit of an odd choice as their black comedies like "Kill List," and "A Field in England," are anything but family-friendly. However, I might remind you that Wheatley himself has already directed two episodes of Doctor Who during the Capaldi era. Once again, it comes down to the basic question as to whether they would actually want the job. Had Wheatley never taken the job directing Doctor Who, I doubt I would have even considered them as a choice. But when you consider the dour sadfest that is "Broadchurch," suddenly they don't seem so strange.
3. Lawrence Miles
I know, I know. Lawrence Miles is easily one of the more controversial figures in the Doctor Who fandom. Outspoken and sometimes downright rude, he's burned his fair share of bridges. I myself have been at the receiving end of his snakiness via twitter. Even with all of these things factored in, I still want to see it happen. He's just that good of a writer. Also, this wouldn't be the first time a non-show writer has become showrunner. Remember Russell T Davies? Though I will concede that he did have a proven track record in television.
Listen, I get that this will never happen, but hear me out. When I first started getting into Doctor Who novels, I began with the Eighth Doctor Adventures. As with most book series, I began reading them in release order. I found some of the books to be fairly entertaining, and some were downright a chore to get through. And then I started reading "Alien Bodies." It was like a light suddenly went off in my head. This wasn't just good, it was brilliant. My enthusiasm for the entire series was given a jolt of energy.
He hadn't just written a good story, he gave the entire series some actual direction. Before "Alien Bodies," it felt as though most of the writers were still wishing they were writing the Virgin Media books. He even managed to breathe life into the companion Sam Jones, who I had found rather dull up until that point. His ability to write even the cheesiest of villains (such as the Krotons) in new and interesting ways was a breath of fresh air. He also introduced us to his Faction Paradox, which would go on to become its own cult favourite series of books. The fact is, the man had vision, and for that, he'll always be one of my favourite Doctor Who writers. If they were to hire him as showrunner, I would not complain.
4. Noah Hawley
Recently in an interview, writer Joe Hill recounted his brutal rejection letter from the BBC pertaining to his Doctor Who script submissions. Their response was basically "We would never hire an American, and if we did, it certainly wouldn't be you." Harsh. First off, that's a bit silly. Saying never to a group of writers based on their nationality is a bit myopic. Furthermore, the damn show was devised by a Canadian! I'm a firm believer of "the right person for the job." I am also of the belief that Noah Hawley could be that person.
Having produced both "Legion," and "Fargo," Hawley is a heavyweight in prestige television. Not only does he grant a degree of artistry to everything he touches, but he also adds a hint of surrealism. One of the things I've touched on in my reviews of the First Doctor era is just how surreal things can be at times. A British police box that travels through time is certainly not your run of the mill concept. Often times I think the showrunners forget just how weird Doctor Who actually is.
Hawley is also no stranger to the concept of science fiction, as Legion is actually a show based off of a Marvel comic book. It contains action, sci-fi, superhumans, strange prosthetics, and a healthy dose of surrealism. In this way, he elevates the source material while finding new and exciting ways to present it. If the BBC wanted to really put Doctor Who on the road toward BAFTA heaven, they would do well to consider someone like Noah Hawley.
5. One of the current writers
Out of all of my choices, this is the one I feel the least confident about. I say this because, well, I don't know much about their capabilities as producers. And when I say "their," I mostly mean Pete McTighe, Ed Hime, Vinay Patel and Joy Wilkinson. While there are plenty of good writers on the Doctor Who staff, these four have easily had the most stand out episodes in the last two series. McTighe is a massive Whovian geek who has shown his capability as a writer. Hime is a bit of a wild card with a penchant for the unusual. Patel has shown himself capable of writing strong drama and action. And Wilkinson, while having the least number of episodes under her belt, wrote what I consider one of the best episodes of series eleven.
Furthermore, it sticks with the convention of sticking to previous show writers as in the case of Moffat and Chibnall. As I said above, even RTD had a history with writing Doctor Who in the form of novels and audios. Having a person from the writer's room on set would be beneficial as they have already been steeped in the process. There's a pre-existing work relationship with not only the other writers but with the cast and crew as well. Out of all of the Doctor Who writers from the past few years, these four newcomers stand out among the rest. I would be intrigued by any one of them getting the job.
#doctor who#showrunner#chirs chibnall#list#edgar wright#noah hawley#lawrence miles#ben wheatley#amy jump#ed hime#pete mctighe#vinay patel#joy wilkinson#bbc#TARDIS#Time and Time Again#legion#kill list#fargo#alien bodies#faction paradox#shaun of the dead#hot fuzz#scott pilgram vs the world
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Production Notes subtitles for Episode 4 of The Krotons
#classic doctor who#2nd doctor#jamie mccrimmon#zoe heriot#eelek#patrick troughton#frazer hines#wendy padbury#phillip madoc#the krotons#captions#behind the scenes
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Prep for the 60th: Season 6 Recap
All these evils I have fought while you have done nothing but observe. True, I am guilty of interference, just as you are guilty of failing to use your great powers to help those in need!
In the final season of Patrick Troughton’s Doctor, we get more action packed stories, but a lore heavy final story that changes the series and marks the end of the 1960’s era of the show. Truly a great performance and heartbreak throughout, but a solid season overall. And with a solid cast as there were no introductions or departures to our TARDIS team. And since this is the only time we don’t get to see the new Doctor (at least for now), we don’t know who will become the new team going into season 7. But here they are, our TARDIS team for Season 6:
(From left: Zoe Heriot, The Doctor, and Jamie McCrimmon)
As it is Zoe’s and Jamie’s final season too, it felt good to have a whole season with them and to be honest this is one of my favorite all time teams. They just work well with each other and each brings unique talents and perspectives to each new place they land. I guess it makes sense that all three also experience such heartbreak at the end, but it is a sad departure which sucks since they are so good together.
The Serials:
1. The Dominators
When the team lands on planet, they soon encounter the locals who have given up on war and fighting, but are under threat by a race filled with that, called the Dominators. Aided by robotic creatures called Quarks, these Dominators threaten to destroy the planet as they focus on gathering radiation and taking the planet into their domain. But against the Doctor, they are no match, which is why he ends victorious at the end.
Overall Rating: 8/10
2. The Mind Robber
An alien intelligence has trapped an English writer and is on search for brilliant minds to help it, do something… So when the Doctor comes along, it obviously knows what it wants. He uses the Englishman he’s captured to send the Doctor and friends into trials with fictional characters and mythological creatures that feel real enough but are only powered by imagination which is ultimately the intelligence’s downfall. Still there is a funny moment when we get a different man to play Jamie when Frazer is unavailable for a couple of episodes. And all because the Doctor couldn’t place his nose correctly.
Overall Rating: 7/10
3. The Invasion
The Cybermen attempt to invade Earth in a first ever earth-centric planet panic. Aided by a megalomaniac name Tobias Vaugn, they come very close, but unfortunately the arrival of the TARDIS team foils it, especially when the Doctor hooks up with an old friend and new found Brigadier of U.N.I.T. who now are the military force in charge of preventing disaster and danger from alien or unknown threats. And even when betrayed, Vaughn’s only goal of destroying the Cybermen has nothing to do with a love for humanity, but his own hatred of them.
Overall Rating: 10/10
4. The Krotons
When the TARDIS team lands on an unknown planet, they are horrified that their first experience is watching someone come out of a machine and die. They soon learn this is the way and that many Gonds have died to help the masters of the planets of the Krotons, but once the Gonds learn people are dying, they rally to rise up. With the Doctor, Zoe, and Jamie’s help they succeed and banish the Krotons from their world so they can live in peace.
Overall Rating: 7/10
5. The Seeds of Death
The Ice Warriors decide its time to invade Earth and we learn in this serial that there are hierarchies in Martian command that send a scouting unit in first to destroy the Earth and make it habitable for their fleet. But as the Martians try to get a grasp of Earth’s world wide transmat system, the Doctor arrives on the moonbase via rocket to stop them and prevent a worldwide takeover. There are human questions as to how far will you go to save your own skin and what would you give up to save humanity which make this serial great.
Overall Rating: 9/10
6. The Space Pirates
This is the only lackluster story in the season, in which it feels like they wanted to write a sci-fi story but forgot they were writing for Doctor Who. The Doctor and team feel sidelined as the main story revolves around space control and space pirates, but since most of it is missing, it is easier to ignore in the rest of this great season.
Overall Rating: 2/10
7. The War Games
In a hard hitting finale, season six wraps up with a fantastic story that introduces heavy lore into the show for the first time. We finally learn what race of people the Doctor comes from and how some do bad things, but ultimately how frustrated the Doctor is with their lack of action and why he runs away in the first place. Centering around a story of horrific ideas as an alien race sets up War Games around all the major Earth wars, the Doctor has no choice but to call his people to help, but ultimately he and his companions pay the price for that decision as the second Doctor’s story comes to an end.
Overall Rating: 10/10
Things we learned so far (bold are new items we learned this season):
Things I’ve learned about the TARDIS:
It has a computer that reads and feed data to compute information about where to go next
It has a food generator where you pick flavors to be added to a nutrient bar
The lock comes away from the door and has 27 different mechanisms, getting one wrong might melt the lock
Field dimensions can be damaged by breaking down doors
The TARDIS is made of material that is impervious to Dalek shots
The Doctor does not have a Mark 4
Things we learn about the Doctor:
Pioneer among gallifreyans
Ian only refers to one heart being okay “his heart is okay”
He accidentally proposes to Cameca
Knows three dimensional graph geometry
He has a chair in the TARDIS that magnetizes people to it
He finally admits he isn’t human in the Evil of the Daleks
That he is a Time Lord
That he stole a TARDIS and ran away
That is frustrated by his people’s lack of action against evil threats
That he wanted to see the universe first hand
Things we learn about Gallifrey:
It’s quite like Earth, but at night the sky burns orange and the leaves on the trees are a bright silver
It’s people were the first to discover and harness the ability of time and space travel
Time Lords can live forever, barring any accident
Time Lords control their environments for ultimate comfort
Time Lords can overpower the TARDIS
Time Lords can force regenerations on other Timelords and steal the knowledge of TARDISes from them
Timelords we meet:
The Monk
The War Chief
Historical Figures:
Marco Polo
Kublai Khan
Maximillen Robespierre
Napoleon Bonaparte
Ceasar Nero
King Richard the Lionheart
Hector of Troy
Paris of Troy
Achilles
Odysseus
Agamemnon
Gaspard de Coligny
Doc Holiday
Wyatt Earp
People the Doctor has supposedly met before:
Pyrrho
Henry VIII
James Watt
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Classic who watching guide: Part Two
I've edited the seasons to make them have proper finales like the new show. Though for this part I only made one change and that's changing a wheel in space to be a season opener.
Missing episodes are a big problem for this era. So here are the episodes you can watch if you're going Full no missing episodes run, watch these 3 and then go to my guide on Season 6
Tomb Of the cybermen
Enemy Of The World
Web Of Fear (1 episode is missing but you'll survive)
Season 4 (Innes Lloyd, Gerry Davis)
The Power Of The Daleks (ESSENTIAL)
Highlanders (ESSENTIAL)
Underwater Menace (RECCOMENDED)
Moonbase (RECCOMENDED)
Macra Terror (RECCOMENDED)
Faceless Ones (ESSENTIAL)
Evil Of The Daleks (ESSENTIAL)
Notes:
All the episodes are missing this season. (A few surviving ones but no serial is complete)
Watch the animations for power, Macra Terror, moonbase, Evil Of the daleks and Faceless Ones.
Okay underwater Menace isn't good but like. Patrick Troughton is a very physical actor and this one has surviving episodes... its also important for the Doctor's character development so...
Watch all the Reccomended ones for this season really
Season 5 (Peter Bryant)
Ahh staff gets a little confusing around here. I'll just call it the Peter Bryant era because there's no distinction otherwise
The Tomb Of The Cybermen (ESSENTIAL)
The Ice Warriors (ESSENTIAL)
The Abominable Snowmen (RECCOMENDED)
Enemy Of The World (MUST WATCH)
Web Of Fear (ESSENTIAL)
Fury From The Deep (ESSENTIAL)
Notes:
Tomb Of the cybermen, Enemy of the World and Web Of Fear are all surviving! Except one episode in Web Of Fear
Watch the animation for the Ice Warriors
Okay don't watch the animations for fury From The Deep and Web Of fear
Just don't
I've heard the narrated fury From The Deep audio is the best way to watch it but I enjoy the reconstruction
Reconstruction for abominable snowmen
I don't hear much about the novelisations in general around this time probably best to avoid them
Season 6 (Peter Bryant/Derrick Sherwin)
The Wheel In Space (ESSENTIAL)
The Dominators (OPTIONAL)
The Mind Robber (MUST WATCH)
The Invasion (ESSENTIAL)
The Krotons (OPTIONAL)
The Seeds Of Death (RECCOMENDED)
The Space Pirates (AVOID)
The War Games (ESSENTIAL)
Notes
Okay.... if you're here from finishing Web Of Fear and don't want to watch the missing episodes, you don't need to watch wheel in space
You do need to watch wheel in space if you just finished fury From the deep though. Its missing mostly though
I'd reccomend non missing episode watchers to watch all the optional episodes this season so you can get more time with the characters
The Invasion has one missing episode but it has an animation and is important plot wise
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31 Days of Doctor Who
Apparently there's a 31 Days of Doctor Who meme doing the rounds on Facebook. Like the friend from whom I've chavved this, I can't be mithered to do a question a day, so here's the whole thing in one sitting.
1 - First story I saw - The first that I can remember watching is The Five Doctors, but I know that I was already aware of Who by that point. 2 - First episode I missed - Part 2 of The Awakening - I was in a sulk, I think. 3 - Underrated - The Krotons 4 - Overrated - Earthshock 5 - Guilty Pleasure - Arc of Infinity 6 - Special Effect - I remember being very impressed by the space station sequence at the start of The Trial of a Timelord 7 - Incidental Music - City of Death 8 - Companion (Male) - Rory. Though thanks to Big Finish, I've developed a new appreciation of Steven Taylor. 9 - Target Book Cover - The Three Doctors. Or possibly Death to the Daleks. 10 - Favourite Target Book - The Mutants. The TV episodes are such a disappointment by comparison. 11 - 1st Doctor Story - The Masacre 12 - Favourite Title Sequence - I love the Capaldi sequence, though his version of the theme is far from the best 13 - Favourite Villain (Humanoid) - I don't want to be boring and say The Master, but I think it has to be. Delgado, or Gomez, or Jacobi 14 - 2nd Doctor Story - Evil of the Daleks 15 - Favourite Monster - The Vervoids - I was just the right age, and have just the right phobias, to make them really effective monsters for me. I love the Zygons, too. 16 - Companion (Female) - Bernice Summerfield. 17 - VHS Cover - They're all pretty ropy! 18 - 3rd Doctor Story - The Sea Devils 19 - 4th Doctor Story - Robots of Death 20 - Favourite Writer - Robert Holmes 21 - 5th Doctor Story - Enlightenment 22 - 6th Doctor Story - Terror of the Vervoids. (For the story rather than the dialogue!) 23 - Most Ridiculous Moment - The Moon is an Egg - all the worse because the story had been really well put-together hard sci-fi right up until that point. 24 - Favourite Line - Capaldi's speech to the Masters in The Doctor Falls 25 - 7th Doctor Story - The Curse of Fenric 26 - Favourite Terry Nation Cliche - Reminding the viewer that we're in the future by preceding everything with the word "space." "Space chums" being the absolute nadir! 27 - The Beautiful Thing About Doctor Who Is - that our hero is fuelled by compassion, intelligence and wonder, not by machismo and guns. 28 - Random New Series Story and Pretend I like It - Not quite sure what this is asking me to do :S 29 - Actor Who Should Have Played the Doctor - David Warner, Lesley Sharp 30 - Favourite Story - Enlightenment. Or Fenric. Or The Doctor Falls. 31 - Favourite Doctor - The Doctor.
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January 4, 1969
The Doctor Who episode “The Krotons: Episode Two” aired.
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On This Day
January 18
1975 • Doctor Who - Episode: Robot Part 4
1972 • A come Andromeda - Episode: #1.3
1971 • Doomwatch - Episode: By the Pricking of My Thumbs...
1971 • Timeslip - Episode: The Year of the Burn Up Part 5
1970 • Land of the Giants - Episode: The Secret City of Limbo
1969 • Doctor Who - Episode: The Krotons Part 4
1965 • Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea - Episode: Doomsday
1964 • Doctor Who - Episode: The Expedition
1952 • Tales of Tomorrow - Episode: Frankenstein
#1950s#1960s#1970s#scifi#science fiction#classic scifi#Classic Science Fiction#Classic Doctor Who#first doctor#William Hartnell#Second Doctor#Patrick Troughton#Fourth Doctor#tom baker#tardis#vttbots
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Flynn Marathons Doctor Who, Part Fuck Roman Numerals We’re Switching to Arabic 9
(for anyone needing caught up–I’m doing a watch of Doctor Who from the very beginning of the show, bingewatching it by episode instead of by serial (which I find to be closer to the original spirit of the episodes, albeit still nothing like it at all), and then doing a writeup roughly every three serials or so)
Finishing up Season 3:
The Gunfighters: Thank the fucking lord for this episode. A much-needed reprieve from the Wiles era, and a downright hilarious romp at that. Hartnell is on fire, Lane shines when Dodo is actually given shit to do (What a shock!), Purves is having the time of his life, it’s all fantastic fun. It’s so nice to see the cast get a legitimately enjoyable episode like this where they’re all clearly having a great time.
As ever Cotten is fantastic at comedy, and the setpieces shine here--the first episode cliffhanger where Steven is singing “The Last Chance Saloon” at gunpoint is hilarious, as is Dodo’s whole bit with threatening Holliday to take her back to Tombstone. Hartnell’s scenes against Holliday are also great--he really is a fantastic comedy actor, and it’s a shame he hasn’t been given more of that recently. Also--”The Last Chance Saloon” is great, no matter what people tell you. I think it’s only obnoxious if you’re bingeing the episodes one right after another so you hear it a bajillion times. Over the course of four weeks, nah, it’s totally great.
No, this whole episode is comic brilliance, and one of the highlights of the entire Hartnell era. Hard to believe it was so hated for so long.
(Also--the individual episode titles are fantastic. Given that they disappear next story, I love that the individual titles went out with such great ones like “Don’t Shoot the Pianist” and “A Holiday for the Doctor”)
So! A note before we move on to the next story. We’re approaching the biggest space of stories I haven’t seen or listened to before in the show. From here on out until “The War Games”, I have only ever seen “The Tenth Planet”, “Tomb of the Cybermen”, “The Enemy of the World”, and “The Mind Robber”, as well as bits and pieces of the Whitaker Dalek stories, “The Invasion” and “The Krotons”. The rest of these stories remain completely unseen by me, some being stories I don’t even know anything about. After this point I’ve seen the entire show except for “Nightmare on Eden”, “Meglos”, “Timelash”, and “Survival”, so this is essentially the only major chunk of stories I’ve yet to experience--which I think is rather exciting. So, moving on to that:
The Savages: Okay, remember when I called “The Space Museum” the unheralded gem of the Hartnell era? I take it back--not because it’s not great or anything, but this right here is the unheralded gem. I literally knew nothing about this going in, and since it’s a completely-missing Season 3 story I don’t think people have a lot of opinions on it, but I was blown away by how gripping I found it. Granted it’s got some issues--the first episode is awfully slow, and I cannot for the life of me tell if they put Jaeger in brownface, and it’d be a terrible decision if they had.
Other than that, though, this is great stuff. The conceit of the planet tracking the Doctor and knowing he would arrive is great, as is of course the central premise of the Doctor turning against the ‘civilized’ people and protecting the savages (a much-needed antidote to the awfulness of “The Ark”). Steven’s departure is also really lovely, and worked into his character quite well (so nice to get an actually good companion departure once in a while). Steven is I think often under-appreciated as a companion, largely because of how malleable he became throughout the season, but Purves has been consistently excellent and I think as important for the ‘young male companion’ archetype as Vicki was for the ‘young female companion’. This is a lovely story for him to go out on, and just all around pretty great--I think Phil Sandifer is right on the money when he calls this functionally the last true ‘Hartnell’ story, and it’s a good note to go out on.
(side note: “not even Dodo would be as stupid as that”. man who knew Steven could be this....savage)
The War Machines: Such a departure from pretty much everything before--only “Dalek Invasion of Earth” and “Planet of Giants” bear any sort of similarity--but in a very good way. Polly and Ben are right upfront great characters, though Ben is frankly an asshole in the first two episodes and it’s hard to figure out why (I guess there’s meant to be an arc where he dislikes Polly and then she saves his life so he likes her? I dunno, it’s pretty hazy). The overall plot is fun, and interesting because even though this is so similar to later Doctor Who, it’s still so different from the archetype that it doesn’t feel generic or well-worn. I think it’s fascinating both in the context of the show and in hindsight.
Dodo’s departure is obviously crap, and a real sour point on the episode (I mean, she doesn’t even show up for her goodbye? What the heck, Lloyd/Davis?), but other than that this is solid fun. Thank goodness for the start of the Lloyd era, because the last three serials made for a much more enjoyable experience than most of the rest of Season 3.
Onto Season 4, and the end of the Hartnell era!
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Episode Guide
FIRST DOCTOR SEASON ONE Episode One- An Unearthly Child Episode Two- The Daleks Episode Three- The Edge of Destruction Episode Four- Marco Polo Episode Five- The Keys of Marinus Episode Six- The Aztecs Episode Seven- The Sensorites Episode Eight- The Reign of Terror SEASON TWO Episode Nine- Planet of Giants Episode Ten- The Dalek Invasion of Earth Episode Eleven- The Rescue Episode Twelve- The Romans Episode Thirteen- The Web Planet Episode Fourteen- The Crusade Episode Fifteen- The Space Museum Episode Sixteen- The Chase Episode Seventeen- The Time Meddler SEASON THREE Episode Eighteen- Galaxy 4 Episode Nineteen- Mission to the Unknown Episode Twenty- The Myth Makers Episode Twenty-One- The Daleks’ Master Plan ——————————————————- Holiday Special- Dr. Who and the Daleks ——————————————————- Episode Twenty-Two- The Massacre of St. Bartholomew’s Eve Episode Twenty-Three- The Ark Episode Twenty-Four- The Celestial Toymaker Episode Twenty-Five- The Gunfighters Episode Twenty-Six- The Savages Episode Twenty-Seven- The War Machines SEASON FOUR Episode Twenty-Eight- The Smugglers Episode Twenty-Nine- The Tenth Planet ——————————————————- First Doctor Special- An Adventure in Space and Time ——————————————————- SECOND DOCTOR Episode Thirty- The Power of the Daleks Episode Thirty-One- The Highlanders Episode Thirty-Two- The Underwater Menace Episode Thirty-Three- The Moonbase Episode Thirty-Four- The Macra Terror Episode Thirty-Five- The Faceless Ones Episode Thirty-Six- The Evil of the Daleks SEASON FIVE Episode Thirty-Seven- The Tomb of the Cybermen Episode Thirty-Eight- The Abominable Snowmen Episode Thirty-Nine- The Ice Warriors Episode Forty- The Enemy of the World Episode Forty-One- The Web of Fear Episode Forty-Two- Fury from the Deep Episode Forty-Three- The Wheel in Space SEASON SIX Episode Forty-Four- The Dominators Episode Forty-Five- The Mind Robber Episode Forty-Six- The Invasion Episode Forty-Seven- The Krotons Episode Forty-Eight- The Seeds of Death Episode Forty-Nine- The Space Pirates Episode Fifty- The War Games ——————————————————- Second Doctor Special- A Look Back ——————————————————- THIRD DOCTOR SEASON SEVEN Episode Fifty-One- Spearhead from Space Episode Fifty-Two- Doctor Who and the Silurians Episode Fifty-Three- The Ambassadors of Death Episode Fifty-Four : Inferno
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Doctor Who - The Krotons Review
Doctor Who – The Krotons Review
Series Title: Doctor Who Story Title: The Krotons Story #: 47 Episodes: 4 half-hour parts Discs: 1 Network: BBC Original Air Dates: 11/02/1968 – 12/21/1968 Cast: Patrick Troughton, Frazer Hines, Wendy Padbury Format: Standard, Black and White, DVD, NTSC “This is the most advanced machine, perhaps he can’t answer the questions.” – Gond Leader “Of course he can, the Doctor’s almost as clever as I…
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Classic TV Adventures - Collection One
Latest Review: Classic TV Adventures Collection One Featuring narration by Frazer Hines, Caroline John, Katy Manning, Elisabeth Sladen, John Leeson & Lalla Ward Released by BBC Audio April 2017 (order from Amazon UK) BBC Audio have of late been releasing items in their back catalogue in collections, with last year seeing audiobooks of the tenth and eleventh Doctors, Torchwood, and also audio adaptations of stories. This month sees a further collection released, this time focussing on televised adventures with linking narration. With a couple of early exceptions, narrated soundtracks started to appear in the early 1990s, featuring a number of (mostly) missing stories being presented on audio cassette with linking narration by 'future' Doctors. This series was "rebooted" for CD in the late nineties, now featuring a contemporary actor providing the narration, and continued on apace throughout the first half of the new decade. However, by 2006 the "missing" well had dried up and so BBC Audio delved into the expanse of complete stories, extending the range until the company responsible for the audio range, AudioGo, went into administation in late 2013. Whilst the release of missing/incomplete adventures was a welcome (if not essential) addtion to Doctor Who collections, there were fans who felt that there was little point to the later releases - after all, these were available in all their glory on VHS and steadily appearing on DVD. However, I've always felt that these were worthwhile additions, for two reasons. Firstly, you can't watch a story when you're driving, but you can listen to a soundtrack and linking narration as you're doing housework, in bed, or as frequently happened to me crawling around the M25! Secondly, but perhaps far more importantly, they serve as an excellent accompaniment to the stories themselves as an audio-description track - something that the modern series has enjoyed throughout its transmission/commercial release for those with visual impairment, but the 'classic' era never accomodated (we were lucky for subtitles back then!). Personally I think it is a shame that no further narrated soundtracks have been released since Random House took over the BBC Audio range, but at least the previous adventures are getting a new lease of life. So what do we get with the first volume of Classic TV Adventures? The collection features seven stories covering adventures of the second, third and fourth Doctors. First up is the Patrick Troughton tale The Tomb of the Cybermen. This story is a curio in that it was one of the "original" run of missing story releases and orginally narrated by Jon Pertwee, but lost its "missing" status shortly before its release (thanks Hong Kong!). For its re-release in 2006 it featured a new narration by Frazer Hines (aka Jamie in the story). Entering the Pertwee era there are two stories that were originally released in late 2006 as part of a Monsters on Earth collection, Doctor Who And The Silurians (with Caroline John aka Liz Shaw) and The Sea Devils (with Katy Manning aka Jo Grant) - however, the third in this set (no prizes for guessing what!) isn't in this collection, it's bumped over to the second set due in October.. Two more, connected tales continue the third Doctor's adventures, The Curse of Peladon (from 2007, also Katy) and its sequel The Monster of Peladon (2008, with Elisabeth Sladen aka Sarah Jane Smith). Rounding off the collection are two Tom Baker stories first released in 2012, The Pirate Planet (with John Leeson aka K9) and Destiny of the Daleks (with Lalla Ward aka Romana). With the latter, I'm surprised BBC Audio didn't include City of Death to have a Douglas Adams mini-theme, but I guess the Daleks are aways a selling point! As well as the soundtracks themselves, each story includes an interview with their respective narrator, talking, so you can listen to anecdotes such as how Caroline first got involved with Doctor Who, how Katy learnt how to do a number of her own stunts, John's road to RADA and Lalla's artistic flair. There are a couple of other bits to be found, such as a BBC Radio 4 item from 2004 on caves in Derbyshire accompanying The Silurians, and a nice little dedication to Mary Tamm on The Pirate Planet. However, no additional content has been included in these re-releases (and some content has actually been lost from the originals - more on that below). It is a perhaps tricky to determine exactly how effective the narration of existing stories actually is, being that we've (probably) watched the stories many times before and so can visualise the scenes playing out in our minds as we listen. However, I think the narration does a good job in reminding us of what's occuring (and the earlier, missing releases certainly demonstrate how the narration helps inform us as to what's happening "off-ear"!) As the linking narration has to be scripted in such a way to minimise interuption to the stories' own narrative, it is often heard in short bursts when nobody is speaking during the episodes. Surprisingly this all works rather well, with only the occassional situation where this isn't possible: for example explaining how the Doctor surrepticiously helps Kleig resolve his logic problem to open the hatch during Tomb means Frazer's narration covers over Kleig's muttering - but that is mitigated somewhat by it being mostly repetition from a few moments ago. The choice of narrator can also make-or-break how effective the plot is imparted - a bland delivery could ruin any atmosphere that the story has built up. Fortunately, nobody falls short in this collection, though of course they have their own distinctive styles. Narration-aside, one thing that stands out is the clarity of the soundtracks, which seems so much better than on the DVDs. This may be down to the uncompressed format of the CD, but here dialogue is crystal clear, and I found it also enhances the musical cues, too - full kudos to the audio restoration work of Mark Ayres and David Darlington. In terms of packaging, this set follows the same format as other collections, i.e. a single central spindle that holds all the discs. This may save on space on the shelf, but it makes it fiddly to access latter stories as you spend your time lifting discs on and off to get at them. I prefer the older boxes, even with the danger of the teeth holding the CDs pinging off! The CDs themselves have new illustrated labels reflecting their collection as well as story status - though unfortunately the labels (not content!) for both discs of Destiny say CD1! These are new pressings and previous PC content is no longer present (such as the PDF camera scripts for The Pirate Planet). However, a bigger problem lies with the bonus content that is meant to be in the set: the inside cover indicates full credits and production notes are in a PDF on CD1, but the disc itself - on my laptop at least - seems to only be a standard audio disc, thus making the promised delights of Andrew Pixley missing (believed wiped?!!!). EDITORIAL: BBC Audio have confirmed that the PDFs of both the production/credits and scripts previously available on The Pirate Planet and Destiny of the Daleks were indeed erroneously left off this collection - future pressings will be corrected, but those who have bought this collection can request the missing PDFs via email by contacting the company through us at [email protected]. So, all-in-all, is it worth getting this set of narrated soundtracks? If you just want the stories (which is arguably the point of the set) then it works out as an efficient way to get them - the original releases will work out more expensive (new), but have sleeve notes and other features absent here, so it will depend on how important those are to you as a listener or collector. That aside, is it still something to get when you've probably got the original DVDs anyway? To me, it is far more convenient to listen to soundtracks in this way when I'm doing other things without the need to watch what's happening on-screen (e.g. writing this review as I listen!), and whilst it isn't too difficult to copy the audio from the DVD to listen to independently, that will be lacking the additional cues made by the narrators. This ultimately comes down to how "purist" you are with the soundtrack, of course, but this does give you the alternative option! The second set of existing soundtracks comes out in October (featuing The Krotons, The Ambassadors of Death, The Mind of Evil, Horror of Fang Rock, City of Death and Warriors of the Deep), which completes the back catalogue. It's my hope that BBC Audio will resurrect the series in 2018, but I suspect that the interest in narrated soundtracks won't be sufficient to give the range that new lease of life (certainly not while the Target adaptations continue apace and new series tie-in releases remain popular). However, I'll continue to 'champion' the audio-descriptive benefits of such releases - with any luck all 'classic' serials will have such accessibility in the future! http://reviews.doctorwhonews.net/2017/04/classic_tv_adventures_collection_one.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=tumblr
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