#The God of Time (Cronus)

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EEEEE!! ur art look like how I feel the tricksters would feel like!!!! I would love to see some tricker art from you eventually! Xp

Pov you just woke up what are your last words

[godsofhumanity]

Iapetus (insane), talking to Kronos (also insane): you're not insane. and neither am I.

[spirits-of-nature16]

Happy almost 20th Anniversary, Class Of The Titans

It’s the 19th anniversary of…

Class Of The Titans!

which is only a few more months until 20 years since…

the leader, Jay (the descendant of Jason)

the brain, Odie (the descendant of Odysseus)

the brawn, Herry (the descendant of Hercules)

the hunter, Atlanta (the descendant of Artemis)

the warrior, Archie (the descendant of Achilles)

the fighter, Theresa (the descendant of Theseus)

and the good-looking, Neil (the descendant of Narcissist)

All came together to defeat the god of Time, Cronus, and save the world for peace

Tagging: @lady-scorpion-and-friends, @mountmultimuses, @muses-of-the-memory, @mariahdoby13, and every single one of you!

[gorez]

Geb "The god of the Earth"

Symbol: Goose, barley, Bull, viper

Syncretism: Atum (Solar god creator)

Greek equivalent: Cronus (God of Time)

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okay i lied i had some intersections with it a couple of those years but come on it was like ships in the night we barely even touched

how many years have you managed to avoid homestuck for

twenty sexy sexy years

[bpdbeehive]

I made a list of every single Greek god ever

Keep in mind some of these may be different from what you know because they have multiple different stories

Eros- god of love, passion, and fertility

Tartarus- god of darkest part in the underworld

Thalassa- goddess of the sea

Phanes- god of creation, new life, procreation, fertility, and light

Caligine- goddess of creation

Gaia- goddess of earth

Erebus- god of darkness and shadows

Nyx- goddess of night and darkness

Pontus- god of the seas

Hydros- god of water

Uranas- god of the heavens and sky

Achlys- goddess of the death-mist, misery, sadness, and deadly poisons

Aether- god of light and the upper sky

Ananke- goddess of inevitability, compulsion, and necessity

Chaos- god of the void

Cronus- god of time, fate, justice, and harvest

Caelus- god of the sky

Coeus- god of the North, intelligence, and resolve

Hemera- goddess of daylight

Hypnos- god of sleep

Nemesis- goddess of vengeance, retribution, and rightful fate

Thalassa- goddess of sea

Rhea- goddess of motherhood, fertility, childbirth, comfort, and good living

Oceanus- god of freshwater

Tethys- goddess of fresh water and nursing mothers

Hyperion- god of heavenly light and watchfulness

Theia- goddess of sight and vision

Lapetus- god of mortal life

Crius- god of constellations, stars, and the south

Phoebe- goddess of intellect, prophecy, and the moon

Themis- goddess of justice, law, order, and divine will

Iris- goddess of rainbows

Mnemosyne- goddess of memory

Zues- god of sky, weather, thunder, lightning, and law and order

Demeter- goddess of the harvest, agriculture, and fertility of the earth

Poseidon- god of sea, storms, earthquakes, and horses

Hades- god of the underworld and the dead

Hera- goddess of women, marriage, family, and childbirth

Apollo- god of sun and light, poetry, healing and disease, justice, archery, music and dance, prophecy and truth

Artemis- goddess of hunting, wild animals, and the wilderness

Aphrodite- goddess of beauty and passion

Ares- god of war and courage

Hephaestus- fire, volcanoes, blacksmithing, metalworking, craftsmanship, sculpture, forges, and metallurgy

Hermes- God of wealth, trade, thieves, and travelers

Athena- goddess of wisdom and strategic warfare

Dionysus- god of wine, festivity, and theater

Hestia- goddess of domestic life, home, and hearth

Hecate- goddess of magic and necromancy

Aeolus- god of the wind

Asclepius- god of medicine and healing

Eris- god of discord, jealousy, and strife

Pan- god of the wild, shepherds, flocks, rustic music, fertility, spring, and theatrical criticism

Eileithyia- goddess of childbirth, birth pains, and midwifery

Enyos- goddess of war, violence, and bloodshed

Evrynomi- water meadows, fertility, and pasturelands

Psyche- goddess of the soul

Hedone- goddess of pleasure, enjoyment, and delight

Dolos- god of trickery, cunning deception, craftiness, guile, and treachery

Senectus- god of old age

Oizys- goddess of misery, grief, anxiety, and depression

Moros- god of doom

Momus- god of satire and mockery

Tmolus- god of Mount Tmolus

Nereus- god of the sea

Phorcys- god of the sea and the hidden dangers that lurk beneath the waves

Ceto- goddess of sea monsters and other marine life

Eurybia- goddess of power over, and mastery of, the sea

Eurus- god of the east or southeast wind, fall, and storms

Aergia- goddess of laziness, idleness, sloth, and indolence

Eos- goddess of dawn

Astraea- goddess of justice, innocence, purity, precision

Boreas- god of the north wind, winter, storms, ice, snow, and cold

Chione- goddess of snow

Orithyia- goddess of cold mountain winds

Zephyrus- god of West wind

Notos- god of South wind

Euros- god of East wind

Hesperos- god of the evening and the evening star

Morpheus- god of dreams and nightmares

Pasithea- goddess of relaxation and rest

Icelus- god of nightmares

Phantasus- god of dreams that feature inanimate objects

Aigaion- god of violent sea storms

Achelous- god of fresh water

Alpheus- god of the Peloponnese

Clymene- goddess of fame and renown

Eurynome- goddess of water meadows, fertility, and pasturelands

Idyia- goddess of knowledge

Metis- goddess of wisdom and cunning strategies

Styx- goddess of oaths and the River Styx

Helios- god of the sun

Selene- goddess of the moon

Atlas- god of strength, endurance, astronomy, and navigation

Prometheus- god of fire, forethought, and crafty counsel

Astraeus- god of astrology and stars

Pallas- god of witchcraft

Zelus- god of dedication, emulation, eager rivalry, envy, jealousy, and zeal

Nike- goddess of victory

Via- goddess of force and power

Perses- god of destruction

Asteria- goddess of falling stars, nocturnal divination, and the connection between the heavens and the earth

Leto- goddess of motherhood, childbirth, modesty, and fertility

Eirene- goddess of peace

Dike- goddess of fair judgment and law

Persephone- goddess of grain and agriculture

Alatheia- goddess of truth

Asopos- god of the river Asopos

Ate- goddess of blind folly and ruin

Britomartis- goddess of hunting and fishing

Elieithyia- goddess of childbirth

Eirene- goddess of peace

Ersa- goddess of the dew

Eunomia- goddess of good governance

Harmonia- goddess of harmony

Hebe- goddess of youth

Hephaistos- god of smiths

Eunomia- goddess of law, governance, and good order

Kairos- god of opportunity

Aglaia- goddess of beauty, splendor, glory, magnificence, adornment, good health, and the glow of good health

Lakhesis- goddess of life and fate

Phasis- god of the river Phasis

Despoine- goddess of certain Arkadian Mysteries

Macaria- goddess of a "blessed" death

Melinoe- goddess of ghosts, nightmares, and propitiation

Zagreus- god of rebirth

Ploutos- god of wealth, riches, and abundance

Albion- god of the sea

Tilphousia- goddess of vengeance and justice

Phobos- god of fear, panic, flight, and rout

Pothos- god of sexual longing, desire, and yearning

Anteros- god of reciprocal love

Himeros- god of sexual desire and unrequited love

Hermaphroditus- god of effeminacy, androgeny, and hermaphroditism

Rhodos- goddess and personification of the island of Rhodes

Priapus- god of fertility

Erichthonius- goddess of earth

Tyche- goddess of fortune, luck, prosperity, chance, and fate

Horkos- god of oaths and the curse that befalls those who break them

Epione- goddess of soothing pain

Hygieia- goddess of hygiene and cleanliness

Panacea- goddess of universal remedy

Aceso- goddess of healing and wounds

Iaso- goddess of recuperation from sickness

Machaon- god of surgeons

Pandia- goddess of the full moon, dew, and youth

Telesphoros- god of recuperation

Enyalius- god of soldiers and warriors

Phosphorus- god of the planet Venus when it appears as the morning star

Triton- god of the sea

Carpus- god of fruit

Bia- goddess of force, power, might, bodily strength, and compulsion

Narcissus- god of vanity

Cephissus- god of the Cephissus river

Ismenus- god of the river of the same name

Eucleia- goddess of good repute, glory, and honor

Eupheme- goddess of good omen, praise, and acclamation

Euthenia- goddess of prosperity, abundance, and plenty

Philophrosyne- goddess of friendliness, welcome, and kindness

Euphrosyne- goddess of joy, good cheer, mirth, and merriment

Hephaestus- god of artisans, blacksmiths, carpenters, craftsmen, fire, metallurgy, metalworking, sculpture and volcanoes

Delphin- god of Dolphins

Aristaeus- god of beekeeping, cheesemaking, olive growing, and hunting

Electryone- goddess of the sun and morning

Circe- goddess of magic

Silenus- god of forests, wine-making, and drunkenness

Triptolemus- god of agriculture

Lyssa- goddess of rage, fury, and rabies

Soteria- goddess of safety, salvation, deliverance, and protection from harm

Leucothea- goddess of hope

Palaemon- god of harbors and sharks

Pasiphae- goddess of witchcraft and sorcery

Perses- god of destruction and peace

Phaunos- god of the forest

Maron- god of Maroneia

Astraeus- god of stars and planets

Limos- goddess of famine, starvation, and hunger

Benthesikyme- goddess of ocean waves

Amphitrite- goddess of the sea

Kymopoleia- goddess of violent sea storms and storm waves

[katerinaaqu]

i'm in despair (this is about antinous)

WHAT?! Okay seriously I have had enough at this point with this bullshit and the misinformation out there just because some people twist away the Odyssey and become famous to the point of people not being able to tell reality from fanfiction and of people who just won't do research or read the most crappy "translations" in the world! So because I have had enough here's ALL the lines Antinous speaks in the Odyssey to clear this up once and for all!

(Be warned this will be long but please share this as much as you can guys! Forgive me in advance if some of my translations are a bit sloppy or not as accurate I am willing to redo some passages if you guys want in comments or reblogs in the future.)

Please spread this because honestly I have had enough and this EXACTLY why I cannot take anymore of these "retellings" and whatever the hell the names are and the changes they make for no reason to characters for "creative liberties" because honestly people cannot even read the sources properly and they just make claims taking advantage of popularity of media!

ANTINOUS'S LINES IN THE ODYSSEY:

And then Antinous the son of Eupeithes answered him:

"Telemachus, no doubt the gods themselves are teaching you well since you became such a boaster and speak with so much insolence! May son of Cronus make sure that you shall never reign Ithaca of the two seas, which is your ancestral right!"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 1 (383-387): Antinous to Telemachus in irony when Telemachus has seen Athena in disguise off.

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Telemachus, you high-and-mighty, uncontrollable in your insolence, what kind have you said is my shame: you wish to shift the blame! But I tell ya it is not the fault of the Achaean suitors but of your beloved mother's, who knows very well how to gain from others. For this is the third year, nearly entering the fourth, that she plays with the feelings within the chests of the Achaeans. For she has given promises to each and every one of us all and sends us messages but in her head and she has made a big ploy; and after she set a large loom in the palace and began to weave in a thin and complicated way and then she said to us:

"Young men, my suitors, since divine Odysseus is dead, please be patient since you are in a hurry for my marriage, but allow me fulfill this one pledge, for I do not want this weaving of mine be for nothing, let me make a shroud for the heroic Laertes for when his fate strikes and is taken by the death who brings so many woes, so that I will not gain resent from the Achaean women, oh, if the man who gained so much were to lie without a shroud"

So she spoke to us and our heroic hearts were persuaded and so in there by day she was looming at her great web and by night she was destroying it under the light of the torches she had beside her. And so she gained herself 3 years with her deceit that persuaded the Achaeans, now entering the forth and time has passed and we were informed on this by one of the women who clearly saw what had happened and so we caught her red-handed unraveling the great web. And so she was forced out of necessity to finish it. And so to you the suitors are replying to you so you shall know it deep in your heart and for all the other Achaeans to know; send back your mother to her father and command her to choose which one of us she pleases to marry. For, truly, Athena has blessed her with knowledge and craftsmanship and understanding heart; such wiles Penelope knows above other beautifully-haired Achaean women, even than the ones known by the old ones; and Tyro and Alcmene and beautifully-wreathed Mycene but her last wile was not right and so we shall continue to eat here from your inheritance, for despite the fact that the gods placed such mind more than many inside her and she brings great name upon herself, but you shall regret your insolence. We shall not move back to our homes or to any other place until she marries which of us Achaeans she desires!

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 2 (86-128): Antinous to Telemachus about Penelope's scheme when Telemachus accused the suitors for their staying at his palace. Penelope is being accused for her game upon them and simoultaneously praised for her mind and craftsmanship but also Telemachus being pressured to send her back to her father to start preparing for her upcoming marriage.

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And Antinous immediately laughed and rushed to Telemachus and grabbing one of his arms he mocked him:

"Telemachus, you high-and-mighty, uncontrollable in your insolence do not have other evil word or action you in your mind for us, but I say come and eat and drink with me like before, I am sure all these you want the Achaeans shall provide and ships and outstanding oarsmen so that quickly you shall reach holy Pylos and hear news of your noble father!"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 2 (301-308): Antinous to Telemachus mockingly after the end of the gathering. Basically Antinous mocks Telemachus and tells him to forget the meeting ever happened and then mocks him with the notion he had to reach Pylos for news of his father.

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And then Antinous, the son of Eupeithes replied:

"Tell me the truth! Where did he go and who were the men that followed him? Were they chosen Ithacan youth or heirlooms and slaves that belonged to him? Definitely I think he is capable even for that! And tell me this as well and answer truthfully for I shall know, whether by force and without your will he acquired the black ship or whether you gave it to him willingly, agreeing with his words!"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 4 (641-647): Antinous to Noemon son of Phronius. The man possessed the ship which Telemachus got and now Antinous is interrogating the man on whether he did so with his free will or by force. The man of course replies that he had no reason to refuse Telemachus thus gaining the reaction by Antinous:

Furiously, then replied to him Antinous the son of Eupeithes; with great anger filling his black heart, both his eyes shining like fires:

"Damn! What a bold insolence Telemachus has put in action, this journey, even if we were saying he would never see it through! The way he has managed to launch a ship and even pick the best youth of the people and take them with him! He shall be our doom soon the way it goes! But hopefully Zeus's strength shall destroy him before he reaches the maturity of youth but go on now and give me a fast ship and twenty men so I shall wait for him and set an ambush to the narrow path between Ithaca and rugged Same and so his voyage to find his father shall have a sad end!"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 4 (660-672): Antinous to himself and the other suitors. Basically here he speaks on the ambush he wants to set on Telemachus in his anger that Telemachus left for the trip after all plus how he fears that Telemachus will be their doom somehow.

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Gentlemen, all of us, let us stop spewing arrogant words for someone might as well report your words in this house. But let us speak in low voice and make our words action, for this has pleased all our hearts.

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 4 (774-777): Antinous to the other suitors. In plotting in silence how they would proceed with the murder of Telemachus while Penelope is up in her rooms praying to Athena for the saving of her son.

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Damn! Look how the gods have saved this man from misfortune! Even if we had guards waiting at the windy tops day after day, one after the other. And when the sun fell down we didn't stay on shore but we sailed on the fast ships in the sea till the divine Eos (Dawn) waiting and lurking for Telemachus to take hold of him and destroy him: some god undoubtedly has brought him home! But let us here plan the sorrowful doom of Telemachus so that he won't escape us; for I know that as long as he lives our plans will not be fulfilled. He has persuaded the council and the people do not agree with us anymore. But let's go before he gathers the assembly of the Achaeans because I think he won't be wise to act slow but he would rush in full wrath and he would choose to rise everyone up by saying that we contrived against him murder but didn't catch him and they will not like it when they hear our evil deeds. Mark my words, he will drive us all out of our lands and we shall move to stranger lands! Come on! Let us seize him at the countryside, outside of the city or on the way and let us seize all his possessions and lands and divide them among ourselves equally but the house we shall give to his mother and to whomever marries her. But if you are displeased by these words and you believe he should live and keep his inheritance then let us stop devouring his goods and leave the house and each one of us from his own palace shall continue showering her with gifts till she will have as husband the one who offers the most.

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 16 (364-392): Antinous to himself and the other suitors. His fury that Telemachus escaped their ambush and he repeats the plan on killing him or establishes even more options for the suitors. In here he also suggests to keep pressuring Penelope to marry.

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And so spoke Antinous scolding the swineherd

"Notorious swineherd what did you bring him to the city for? Don't we have enough vagabonds and other annoying beggars to ruin our dinner? Aren't they enough people to eat the king's wealth here that you invited this one too?"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 17 (374-379): Antinous to Eumeus on Odysseus. Eumeus had brought Odysseus-Beggar to the palace and Melanthius, the goat-herder had pointed out that he saw Eumeus leading him there so Antinous once more barges in and complaints (that is the first time Antinous speaks in the presence of Odysseus)

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Telemachus you high-and-mighty and uncontrollable in your insolence what did you say! If all the other suitors were to give him as much then he wouldn't need to come back for the next three months!

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 17 (406-408): Antinous to Telemachus. Telemachus mocks Antinous on his mocking on Odysseus/Beggar and so had Eumeus before him so now Antinous just mocks them back

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Which god has brought this creature to destroy our feast? He stood there in apart from our tables and claims he comes from bitter Egypt or Cyprus: He insolently and so rudely asks for food from all who are here: and they give it so recklessly for no one is more generous in giving than the one who gives something that belongs to someone else for they have much each!

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 17 (446-452): Antinous to himself and Odysseus. Odysseus goes to Antinous in particular to beg for food and tells him once more his "sad story" on how he fell from grace. Antinous does not like the whining and he retaliates. Ironically he also says something correct here; that they are all generous to the food they give to Odysseus because that food is not theirs in the first place.

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So he spoke and Antinous got even more furious and looking down upon him he replied with winged words:

"Now you shall no longer stay in this palace, back off since you speak words of accusation!"

(Tranlation by me)

Rhapsody 17 (458-461): Antinous to Odysseus. Odysseus insists upon Antinous give him some food and Antinous retaliates sending him away and in the next scene he throws the stool at him

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And to him replied Antinous the son of Eupithes:

"Sit there and eat, stranger or go elsewhere or else you shall be thrown out being carried away by your arms and legs and be skinned whole!"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 17 (477-480): Antinous to Odysseus. Basically Odysseus complained to the entire assembly that Antinous has just striken him because he is hungry. Antinous doesn't like it and threatens that Odysseus will be carried out by force and be skinned alive if he goes on. He is heard by Penelope upstairs and she is filled in the details by Euryclaea.

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Mighty Antinous heard them two talking and breaking in merry laughter he addressed the suitors:

"Friends how fortunate that such a thing happened, that the gods brought such entertainment to our doors! Irus and the stranger fighting and wishing to hit each other! Quickly! Let's set them up!"

So he spoke and everyone broke down laughing and gathered together the two beggars and again Antinous son of Eupithes addressed them:

"Listen, heroic suitors, what I am about to say. These goat stomachs here that is roasting on the fire and we had set them here to make dinner after we have filled them with fat and blood but now I say the one who wins and comes out on top let him choose which one he wants to have for himself and what's more he shall dine with us and we shall suffer no more a beggar begging among us!"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 18 (34-49): Antinous to the rest of the suitors. Irus has arrived to the palace and he picks up a fight with Odysseus/Beggar and Antinous loving the idea of watching them two fight and suggests the contest.

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Now, don't whine, you bully and it might have been better if you never born if you are to be afraid and trembling of this fellow, a man old and beaten down by misery. I tell ya and it's done: he has won against you and is stronger, I shall throw you in a black ship and exile you to the mainland to the king Echetus, the baneful of men, and he shall have your nose and ears cut off with ruthless bronze and shall throw your privates to the dogs to devour!

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 18 (79-87): Antinous to Irus. Basically he threatens and mocks Irus for being afraid of losing to "an old man". Irus was taken over by fear when Odysseus revealed his shoulders and legs realizing that he is not just a common old man. Antinous is "guilt tripping" and threatening Irus so that the two of them would fight.

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And Antinous son of Eupeithes replied to her:

"Daughter of Icarius, wise Penelope, the gifts you want the Achaeans shall bring you here, for you to accept them, for it is no good not to accept them, but we shall not leave this place and go elsewhere till you choose to marry the best of us Achaeans!"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 18 (284-289): Antinous to Penelope. Penelope demands wedding gifts (as a manipulation for the suitors to bring items to pay back what they have eaten and possibly more than that). She probably hoped to manipulate the suitors out of her house. Antinous responds to her by accepting her request but also expresses the decision all the suitors made, not to leave the house till she has chosen a husband (in the next lyrics it is revealed that Antinous's gift was a beautiful embroidered robe with 12 golden brooches)

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I verily think is hard, Achaeans, to accept the word of Telemachus who has so much spoken threateningly against us. Truly the son of Cronus Zeus wouldn't have tolerated this but he would already have silenced him in this palace, the way he clearly speaks!

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 20 (271-274): Antinous to the rest of the suitors. Telemachus placed his father (dressed as beggar) sit among the suitors and has showingly given him good portion of food and golden cup and he told him boldly to sit and eat and drink with the rest of the people for it is not a public house here but the house of Odysseus that treats his guests! (I also find it a nice cheeky move by Telemachus here!) Antinous didn't like it and he speaks up

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You foolish boors who only care for today! Cowards why are you crying now and you are troubling the heart of this woman? Now that she has learnt she has lost her dear husband! Be silent and sit down or if you have to weep go elsewhere and leave this bow behind so it will be a the contest of decision for the suitors. For I believe it will be no easy task to chord this bow. For there is no such a man among us like the one Odysseus was! And I myself have seen him and I remember him even if I was but an infant child then!

Rhapsody 21 (86-96): Antinous to Eumeus. Eumeus was ordered to bring up the bow from the armory. Eumeus held the bow in his hands and he actually cried in emotion as he held his master's favorite bow. Antinous retaliates and calls him names because as he says "he is troubling Penelope" with his cries and he speaks on how he remembers Odysseus when he was a child. And ironically or not so much he speaks very positively on Odysseus and the kind of man he remembers him to be, maybe because he thinks he is safe now and believes Odysseus to be dead.

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And Antinous, the son of Eupeithes, said to them:

"Rise in your turn from the right, all my friends, we start with the order the wine is being poured"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 21 (140-142): Antinous to the rest of the suitors. He basically suggest the order with which everyone will try and string the bow (with the order that the jug holder has poured them wine) from right to left)

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But Antinous reproved his words and he called out:

"Leodes! What words have escaped the barrier of your teeth?! This is both painful and dreadful words indeed that I feel resentment by just hearing you! If this is the bow that shall judge who is the best in heart and soul no wonder you cannot string it. Your noble mother hasn't birthed you to be a strong archer or shoot arrows. Let the other noble suitors string it!"

So he spoke and then he ordered Melanthius, the goat herder:

"Melanthius, go and light a fire in the hall and place a great chair by it covered in fleece and bring a large block of fat when you come back so that we shall smear the bow with it and soften it over the flames before we execute our contest"

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 21 (167-180): Antinous to Leodes and immediately after Antinous to Melanthius. Leodes expressed the impossible of stringing the bow and then he claimed that he'd rather die than suffer the loss there for Penelope's hand and Antinous does not like the defeatist attitude. He takes over and orders to Melanthius to bring the tools to care for the bow and make sure it is usable after so long staying in storage. This passage also shows the knowledge Antinous has on weaponry in general and possibly hunting in particular.

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Eurymachus, this won't work; you know it yourself, because now it is a public celebration for a god. Who then would string the bow?I say set it aside for now. Newvertheless we shall leave the axes here where they are, for I believe no one shall enter to the palace of Odysseus the son of Laertes, to take them! But let's go, let the cup bearer pour the liberations in our goblets as we make our offerings and let's set aside the curved bows! By the morning we shall order Melanthus the goat herder shall bring the best out of the goats he is tending and herding and so we shall sacrifice their thighs to Apollo of the beautiful bow and we shall try one more time to execute the challenge of this bow.

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 21 (257-268): Antinous to Eurymachus when none of them could string the bow he suggests that it is because it is a public celebration that they should make their own offerings to the gods and call it a day and try another day because he assumed it is possible that the reason they couldn't string it could possibly be that it was because of the celebration. So he suggests to call it a day and offer a sacrifice to Apollo the next day before they try again.

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Ah bloody stranger! You have absolutely no trace of wit! You are not satisfied enough that you arrogantly sit and dine with us and you are in no want of food but you also pry in our conversations and overhear our words! No other beggar or stranger ever overheard our words! Undoubtedly the sweet wine has gotten to your head and you know the wine is bad for others too, if greedily take gulps and drink without measure. The wine made even the centaurs and the noble Eurytion act foolishly when they were to the palace of great-hearted Pirithus, when he went to the Lapithes: and because his mind was consumed by wine, his frenzy caused great evil upon the house of Pirithus. And so great sorrow fell upon the heroes for he was dragged out of the doors and thrown out and his ears and nose were cut wit merciless bronze and so he bore the punishment for the madness of his mind. And so it commenced the fight between the Centaurs and the humans. They were the first to see the evil of heavy drinking. And you who speak big words I warn you if you manage to bend the bow you shall not be met with kindness and we shall throw you to a black ship and exile you to the mainland to the king Echeton, the baneful of men, there nothing will save you! Sit still and drink and don't aim to compete against much younger men than you!

(Translation by me)

Rhapsody 21 (288-310): Antinous to Odysseus. Odysseus/Beggar has just slowly approached Eurymachus and Antinous and he has asked for the right to try the bow himself. Antinous got furious that Odysseus overheard them and that he suggested to take part to the challenge and then he assumes that Odysseus is drunk and he even brings up the myth of the centaurs and the Lapithes to say how wine makes people say and do stupid things. Ironically he is most likely self-projecting since he does seem to be the intoxicated one (at least how I read his passages). And those were the last words spoken by Antinous and the last ones addressed to Odysseus.

In the next passages is the death of Antinous (he doesn't get the chance to even react given how Odysseus kills him when he is about to take a drink with an arrow through his throat) and his name is mentioned a few times by Eurymachus and some more mentions by name.

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As you see there is absolutely no mention whatsoever not even to the murder of Telemachus to none of the scenes where Odysseus is present (mind you neither to the scenes where Penelope is either! Penelope was informed on their scheme by a servant that overheard them and she went down to confront Antinous!)

Also Antinous makes no mention whasoever in any rape! He mentions the myth of the centaurs and Lapithes and NOT EVEN THEN does he mention the attempt of rape of the women by the drunk centaurs yet alone to Penelope! The only things he speaks about is how to keep pressuring Penelope choose a husband and he mentions wedding gifts.

If anything it is ODYSSEUS the one that gets threatened all the time by Antinous and mistreated by him. Antinous even speaks positively about Penelope like 99% of the time with the exception when he calls her devious for her trick that had them all waiting.

Absolutely they want to increase pressure to Penelope and they want to kill her son but that rape thing should be enough at this point! Honestly THIS is where a certain someone SHOULD come out and say that these came out of his head and NOT the Odyssey! Like sure it is your imagination and do whatever with it but damn!

Sorry I am really upset with these smartasses on the internet at this point! Once again forgive me if any of my interpretations is sloppy or even if I have forgotten something. I have double checked but just in case.

[real-live-human]

"new tumblr users need to know likes don't do anything" "new tumblr users need to know to change their profile so they don't look like bots" "new tumblr users need-" no. the only thing new tumblr users need to know are:

query the ominet, delve into the archives. find you the Aeneid, find you the age of Titanomachy. eat, absorb, mull. tell me now of the Hecatoncheires, they of the hundred hands. did they strike the blow against Cronus — Saturno — or did they instead assail the Olympians? who do you believe? who stopped the Beast from telling its own story? and why?

there is a body and a deep pit, and both are named Tartarus. once it held kings and titans and myths. now, the gates that held it back are flung wide, and Tartarus is free. here is the terrible question: who opened it, and why?

close your eyes. hold the image of your enemy in your mind; imagine it in all light and form every angle. in your mind, it has become a more perfect version. crush it in your mind and kill the perfect thing. open your eyes.

let me tell you this lesson: the corporeal existence is one that must end in death. the incorporeal existence is one that [must] end in [cascade? do you really think that is true?]. i tell you again, if you can imagine it, it is [done] and you have already struck the killing blow.

through ecstatic repetition, you may see the face of God. speak until your tongue dries and rattles to dust, and your body becomes nothing. when you are nothing and the wind takes you, you are in all things, never to be destroyed, only divided, until time's end.

a little gift, to be pondered until understood: cast aside the hammer and sword, the cannon and beam. no weapon formed against me shall land a true blow, as i have seen all ends, and there is nothing left but me. a trillion trillion light-years in all directions, and through it all, only [us? who knows. ego is a mind-killer. best to call your friends. better to face the night together. 'til later, love.]

[judiciously-ezekiel]

I wondered how long it would take for someone of higher power than my wife and I to accept the death of the King.

This shift is unlike any I have come across.

I am well within my right coming here.

[orchestrated-haunting]

using my classics degree for good. i cannot wait for 3.0

my notes from my first watch through of "Amphororeus' Saga of Heroes" under the cut. please note that i did this at 8am with minimal double and triple checking of sources

Aglaea- Aglaea in mythology is the child of zeus and is one of the three Charities in Greek myth; according to Dionysiaca she is one of the "dancers of Orchomenus" who tend to Aphrodite. Helped Aphrodite in her attempt to weave better than Athena by holding and passing Aphrodite the yarn. She also acts as Aphrodite's messanger. Her drip marketing also mentioned her connection to romance so her being a stand in for Aphrodite feels like a easy call

Tribbie- hermes or hecate (likely a combination) she's a messenger like hermes, however the description of "the three-faced" is usually used in description of Hecate goddess of the crossroads

Anaxa- likely the athena parallel as said to have enough knowledge to refute faith and is capable of killing gods. this is in line with athena's domains of wisdom and the logical side of combat; eyepatch is similar to odin of norse mythology as he exchanged one of his eyes for all the knowledge in the world; Anax is the attic greek word for "tribal cheif, lord, or military leader"; there are also several notable figures who have the prefix anax- in their name Anaxandridas II (a king of sparta) and anaxagoras and anaxarchus (both philosphers)

Hyacine - name from hyacinthus, lover of apollo and where we get the name of hyacinths from; she also "severs dawn from dusk" which makes me feel more than confident in her being the apollo parallel

Mydei- ares parallel, lion symbolism is common with warriors in ancient greece; hercules wore the skin of a lion he killed. the rest of it is vibes based but look at him; could not find any strong name parallels immediately as both Medea and Midas do not have many war-like contributions; however medea is close enough to mydei in pronunciation. medea was the daughter of Aeetes and lover of Jason from the argonauts and granddaughter to the sun god Helios; fire motifs, could be connection to hephaestus but i'd need more before i make that call; japanese version uses Mydeimos which points to Deimos, the god of terror and twin brother of Phobos the god of fear, both of which are children of Ares and Aphrodite (thank you @/integraseras for connection)

Cipher- fleet-footed hunter and said to "make time stop" while i can't think of any deity that specifically can do that the fleet-footed hunter aspect along with her being feminine strongly implies to me an artemis parallel; "make time stop" is interesting because in some stories and accounts the gods could stop time to communicate with a single hero or person without others noticing their presence

Castorice- "daughter of the river styx" and other death motives makes her almost certainly Hades; this is likely unrelated but one of the twins of the Diocusi (gemini twins) is named Castor however they are the children of Zeus, however castor was born mortal and pollux was born immortal, eventually they made a deal in which they would spend half of the time with the gods and the other half in the underworld

Phainon- couldnt find one of the olympians that fight however the god Phaenon is the sky god of Cronus (the planet Saturn); name means "bright" or "shining"; this could also be our Zeus figure due to Phaenon being called "the star of Jove" (Jove being another name for Zeus in roman myth)

(following names were from the video description but no other info was given)

Hysilens- name possibly comes from the combination of the gods Silenus and Hysminai; silenus is the god of wine, drunkenness, and the forest while also the foster father of Dionysus. Hysminai is the personification of combat; likely stand in for Dionysus

Cerydra- name has some parallels to the hydra the lake monster of Lerna in the Argolid, cer- could possibly (very unlikely) come from cerberus; my money would be on them being the parallel for posideon; the hydra was also one of hercules 12 labors and the lake Lerna was said to be an enterence to the underworld, possibly connecting cerberus in there, as cerberus is the guard dog of the underworld

Two unnamed characters: also there Gods that haven't been explicitly shown: Hera, Hestia, Demeter and Hephaestus. I could see hoyo combining Hera and Hestia into a single character of marriage, hearth and home

Other notes:

the gods were said to have gold blood

Amphoreus from the greek vessel style of a container with a long neck and two handles used to store oil, wine, milk, or grain. Amphorae were sometimes used as grave markers or as containers for funeral offerings or human remains and Amphora was also used as a unit of measure

the titans in the trailer = titans in myth; the conflict that follows is basically the equivalent of the war in mythology between the olympians and the titans

[probablyasocialecologist]

The degrowthers are right: There needs to be a lot less physical stuff produced, especially in the way of fossil fuels, and, for anyone with the least sense of justice, this means rich countries consuming less and poor countries consuming more. Such an apparent threat of rich-country austerity meanwhile contains, in truth, the promise of abundance: fewer but more durable goods, less work and more leisure. (Already in the 1990s, the French-Austrian ecosocialist André Gorz wanted to “build the civilization of liberated time” in place of that of wage labor.) The fact that any such global rebalancing of consumption patterns can’t plausibly take place so long as the rich countries of the Global North dictate world history is one more reason that degrowth remains a dead letter under capitalism. It is not, however, the working classes of the Global North that must drastically curtail their lifestyles: The world’s richest 1 percent are responsible for as much carbon emissions as the poorest two-thirds of the global population. Much of the work of degrowth would be accomplished by the dispossession and destruction of the class represented by this sole percentile. As for the idolaters of growth, their god has not only failed but, Cronus-like, has started devouring its children as if these were so many chicken wings. “Growth” fantasizes one kind of fake substance, and “degrowth” another; real intelligence demands attention to how the ingredients of this world are different, not the same. Even so, the advocates of degrowth (a more attractive English word might be Samuel Beckett’s “lessness”) can boast of a sounder moral and political intuition than can the usual apologists for growth: Less stuff, more life! Such an argument may be obviated soon enough, either way, by the specter not of degrowth communism, but of prolonged capitalist contraction. Voters and politicians whistling past the graveyard being prepared for our children may have neglected to consult a recent article in Nature which holds that “the world economy is committed to an income reduction of 19% within the next 26 years independent of future emissions choices” (emphasis mine). Important factors in this bleak outlook include the declining agricultural yields and the massive and unpredictable damage to infrastructure attendant on climate collapse. In other words, even if carbon emissions are somehow reduced through the magic of the market, climate change can be expected to cause about $38 trillion in damages annually by the mid-century, enough to render overall economic growth infeasible. The choice facing the 21st century, then, is likely not between degrowth and growth. It is more likely between a form of capitalist contraction in which prosperity endures for a few but evaporates for the rest of us, and some kind of socialist or communist degrowth in which the well-being of everyone in general prevails over the wealth of anyone in particular. The precise politics of egalitarian degrowth are no more clear to me than they are to Saitō. But universal crisis will license strategies that theory alone could never discover.

26 August 2024

[firinnie]

Second Chance AU, a bit more story

WE HAVE IT, FINALLY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AU!

So for now we have a moment where Cronus somehow becomes one piece again and goes out to fight his children. Blah blah there was some kind of prophecy for this blah blah.

Zeus, recognizing himself as the most powerful, realizes that he is still too weak for this, and his father wants to fight the "grandchild who was supposed to be his equal". Zeus realizes that "the son who will overthrow the king" was about another king, and due to his paranoia he probably doomed the entire world to disaster.

BUT Athena shows up and despite being angry at her father and not having exchanged more words, that she has to, with him since God Games - stands up for Zeus. She "dies" or what is closest to death for a god happens to her. Cronus is defeated, at least for now.

Zeus and the entire Olympus are devastated. The king tries to do something to bring his daughter back to life, so he goes to Chronos, the titan of time. Zeus gets a proposal from him that he can help reborn Athena in the same way as Zagreus once. But then Zeus had the heart of a lost boy, and now he had nothing from war goddness.

So he goes to Nyx as a last resort and begs for help. Her son is literally death himself and with each soul taken, he cuts off a lock of hair. Hermes did not see his sister's soul, so everyone came to the conclusion that Thanatos still has part of her in his hands.

He is good friends with Ares (@/sarnai4 instilled this headcanon in me and I can't not add it here) and the god of war asks him for help. He asks his mother for permission and thanks to Nyx Zeus gets a lock of red hair, he gives his own blood to bring his daughter back to life too.

They succeeds, but nothing is the same anymore, Zeus gets a new chance to be a father, but the lord of time decides to test the humility of the gods and gives one condition in this agreement…

[helniiic]

all about aphrodite ꨄ

𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼

𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𓍊𓋼𓍊𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼

aphrodite / Ἀφροδίτη is the goddess of love, beauty, harmony, pleasure, the sea, procreation, and fertility.

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BACKSTORY

there are two different versions of aphrodite's birth and backstory, from the works of Hesoid & Homer.

in hesoid's theogony,

uranus (previous god of the sky) was overthrown by his own son, cronus (god of time). to achieve this, cronus used a sickle to castrate uranus and threw his genitals into the sea.

as his gentials fell, they mingled into the sea's foam. from this divine mixture, aphrodite rose from the sea near cyprus (or cythera, depending on the source) already fully grown.

hesoid depicts aphrodite as an independent entity who's power and beauty inspires gods and mortals.

in homer's iliad,

aphrodite is described as the daughter of zeus (god of the sky) and dione, ( goddess of the divine feminine & previous earth goddess ) a lesser-known goddess.

this version places aphrodite within the olympian pantheon and includes her within the conflicts.

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MYTHOLOGY

themes of aphrodite's myths often include love & desire, jealousy & rivalry, passion & tragedy.

the judgement of paris

the story starts with the wedding of peleus (a mortal hero) and thetis. (goddess of the sea)

this marriage was attended by all gods and goddesses as it symbolised the union between mortal and divine entities. however, eris (goddess of discord) was not invited to the wedding due to her tendency to cause trouble. offended by this, she decided to disrupt the wedding.

to create discord, eris created a golden apple inscribed with the words "to the fairest." (kallistēi in greek)

three goddesses — aphrodite, hera and athena claimed the apple, each believing they were the fairest. unable to agree, they all turned to zeus to settle the dispute.

zeus couldn't settle on a decision, not wanting to offend any of the goddesses — so he turned to a mortal, paris. (a trojan prince) he was known for his impartiality and fairness, making him the ideal judge.

all goddesses came to paris on mount ida and exchanged a bribe for his favour:

1. hera promised paris power and domination, offering to make him the ruler of all known lands and people.

2. athena promised paris wisdom and military prowess, offering to make him an unbeatable warrior and strategist.

3. aphrodite promised paris the love of the most beautiful woman in the world: helen of troy, the wife of king menelaus of sparta.

after some consideration, paris eventually gave the apple to aphrodite in exchange for helen's love.

true to her word, aphrodite facilitated a meeting between paris and helen. he travelled to sparta to see her, either seducing her or abducting her (depending on the version of the myth) and they both sailed off to troy.

menelaus was furious to discover his wife had left, and called upon greek kings and heroes to help him get his wife back which was the beginning that led to the trojan war.

ares love affair

aphrodite was married off to hephaestus (god of fire & craftmaking) by zeus, to prevent arguments among the other gods over her beauty.

the couple were an unlikely match, as hephaestus was always focused on his craft and depicted as being physically unattractive whilst aphrodite was passionate and radiant. so, she turned to ares (god of war) for companionship.

the two deities were polar opposites — aphrodite symbolised love, harmony and beauty whilst ares symbolised violence, chaos and war. their love represented the intertwining of love and conflict.

the couple would meet up in secret, away from the eyes of the other gods to keep their affair hidden... which didn't last long.

hephaestus eventually found out about aphrodite's infidelity through helios — furious, hephaestus set a clever plan to expose and humiliate the couple.

using his skills, he crafted an invisible and unbreakable net of chains which he set up over the bed he shared with aphrodite so the next time her and ares met in secret, the net fell over the two which caught them in the middle of the act.

hephaestus invited all the other gods over to witness the trapped lovers, intending to humiliate ares and aphrodite by exposing their betrayal publicly.

all gods attended and laughed at the situation and envied ares, whilst the goddesses did not attend.

hephaestus demanded compensation or retribution from zeus, but he dismissed his demands and no real consequences were given to ares or aphrodite.

adonis' death / the curse of myrrha

a mortal woman named myrrha (adonis' mother) fell in love with her own father king cinyras. she tried to trick him into sleeping with her, which enraged her father and so he tried to kill her. to escape her father's wrath, she prayed to the gods for protection. but instead, the gods looked down on her for her incestuous acts and she was cursed to transform into a myrrh tree... and somehow, gave birth to adonis.

after the birth of adonis, his unbelievable beauty caught the eye of aphrodite - however, she was not the only goddess enamored with the child.

aphrodite placed the infant adonis in a box and entrusted it to persephone for safekeeping.

persephone opened the box, seeing how beautiful the child was and refusing to give him back up to aphrodite — which caused a massive dispute.

zeus intervened, declaring that adonis would spend one-third of the year with aphrodite, one-third in the underworld with persephone and another one-third with whoever he likes.

(later on, adonis chose to spend that time with aphrodite, only deepening her love for him.)

as adonis grew older, he became aphrodite's lover. the goddess was deeply in love with him and often joined him on hunts, despite her distaste for those types of things.

aphrodite was anxious of adonis' mortality, so she warned him to be cautious of the dangers in the wilderness. — but despite her warnings, adonis was emboldened by his pride and desire and pursued hunting with reckless abandon.

one day whilst adonis was hunting, he encountered a wild boar. some versions of the myth suggest...

1. ares became jealous of aphrodite and adonis' love, and sent the boar to kill him.

2. apollo sent the wild boar to seek revenge after aphrodite blinded his son, erymanthus.

3. artemis was seeking retribution and sent the wild bosr after aphrodite played a role in killing her favourite mortal, hippolytus.

adonis struck the wild boar with his spear, but the wounded animal retaliated by goring him fatally.

aphrodite sensed adonis' pain, and quickly rushed to his side — but she arrived too late, letting him bleed to death in her arms.

heartbroken over his death, she mourned deeply. as her tears mingled into his blood, she transformed him into an anemone flower — symbolising love, fleeting beauty and loss.

following his death, adonis descended into the underworld where persephone claimed him as her own. aphrodite protested, begging to zeus once more where he only reaffirmed the previous agreement.

this cycle represents the seasons — time spent with aphrodite symbolising spring and summer, whilst time spent with persephone symbolises autumn and winter.

eros and psyche

psyche was a mortal princess. she was so beautiful that people began to worship her instead of aphrodite — which angered her.

so, aphrodite sent eros (her son / cupid) and ordered him to make psyche fall in love with the ugliest creature.

however, when eros first saw psyche he was struck by her beauty and accidentally pricked himself with his own arrow, causing him to fall deeply in love with her.

instead of honouring his mother's wishes, he wanted to secretly make her his own.

meanwhile, psyche was alone. despite her beauty, men feared to ask for her hand in marriage. psyche's father was desperate for guidance, so he consulted in the oracle of delphi which delivered a tragic prophecy.

"dress your daughter in funeral clothes and leave her on a rocky cliff. she is destined to marry a fearsome, winged serpent that even the gods fear."

reluctantly, her family obeyed the oracle's words. they dressed her up, and left her on a cliff. however, instead of a monster, zephyrus gently lifted her up and carried her to a beautiful palace in a hidden valley.

in the palace, eros came to visit her in disguise and forbade her to see his face. despite his secrecy, he was gentle and loving with her which caused psyche to fall in love.

during the day, she wandered around the palace and was attended to by invisible servants, and at night time she would spend time with her husband.

however, the curiosity ate away at psyche. this was only enabled when her sisters came to visit.

upon seeing the luxurious life of psyche, her sisters became jealous and poisoned her mind with doubts — they convinced psyche that eros was a monster who would eventually kill and devour her. they urged her to take an oil lamp and a dagger, look at him whilst he slept, and be ready to kill him if he was a beast.

that night, psyche's curiosity got the best of her and followed her sister's advice. she lit the lamp, and beheld the most beautiful man she'd ever seen.

overwhelmed with love and regret, her hands trembled and a drop of hot oil landed on eros' shoulder, waking him up.

heartbroken by her betrayal, eros declared: "love cannot live without trust" and flew away.

heartbroken, psyche decided to try and win back eros by calling upon aphrodite.

aphrodite saw this as an opportunity to torment psyche further, so the goddess assigned psyche a list of nearly impossible tasks.

1. sorting a mountain of seeds — aphrodite poured a vast pile of mixed grains and demanded psyche to separate them by dawn. eros, who was still secretly in love, sent an army of ants to help her complete the task.

2. fetching golden wool — psyche had to collect golden fleece from violent rams. a river god advised her to wait until the rams slept before collecting the fleece from a bush.

3. filling a crystal flask with water from the underworld's river —psyche had to fetch water from a deadly river guarded by dragons. zeus' eagle assisted her by carrying the flask.

4. retrieving persephone's beauty in a box — finally, aphrodite ordered psyche to descend into the underworld and retrieve a bit of persephone's beauty in a box. persephone complied, warning her not to open the box. however, curiosity overtook psyche once again and she opened it up — she saw it did not contain beauty, but rather the sleep of death. psyche quickly fell into a deep slumber.

eros, unable to bear psyche's suffering any longer, flew to her and gently wiped away the deadly sleep and revived her with a kiss.

he pleaded to zeus to allow them to be together. zeus, moved by their love, made psyche a goddess and allowed her immortality.

psyche and eros were finally united, having a grand wedding on mount olympus. eventually, aphrodite accepted psyche for her now divine status.

pygmalion and galatea

pygmalion was a gifted sculptor from cyprus, known for his exceptional artistry.

he chose to live in solitude, deciding not to involve himself with any woman romantically as he believed no woman could ever match his ideal of beauty and virtue.

one day, pygmalion began working on a statue of a woman from pure ivory. he poured all his skill and passion into his work, ensuring every detail was flawless.

he named the statue galatea, and his admiration for his work quickly formed into love.

he would dress her in fine clothes, accessorise her in jewellery, spoke to her and slept next to her as he longed for her to come alive.

during the festival of aphrodite, the people in cyrpus gathered to honour and celebrate the goddess of love.

pygmalion approached the altar and made a silent but heartfelt prayer to aphrodite for a woman "as perfect as his ivory maiden."

aphrodite had secretly been watching his devotion and sincerity for his statue for awhile now, and decided to grant his prayer.

when pygmalion returned home, he kissed the statue as he always did. but, something was different...

her lips felt warm.

surprised by this, he touched her arm and felt warm, soft skin instead of cold ivory.

galatea's eyes fluttered open, her rigid form softening as she came to life before pygmalion's astonished gaze.

pygmalion was overwhelmed with joy, repeatedly thanking the goddess for her generosity. galatea, now a living woman, reciprocated his love and the two were happily united together.

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RELATIONSHIPS

- ares (lover)

- hephaestus (ex husband)

- apollo (ex lover)

- poseidon (ex lover)

- adonis (ex lover)

- hermes (ex lover)

- anchises (ex lover)

- dionysus (ex lover)

- zeus (father?)

- dione (mother?)

- eros / cupid (son)

- hermaphroditus (son)

- aeneas (son)

- priapos (son)

- phobos (son)

- deimos (son)

- harmonia (daughter)

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OFFERINGS

- candles ( red, white, pink )

- crystals ( rose quartz, rhodonite )

- seashells / sea water / sand

- jewellery ( pearls )

- flowers ( roses, tulips )

- wine ( red, white, pink )

- beauty products ( makeup, skincare )

- perfume

- chocolate ( dark, milk )

- fruits ( strawberries, pomegranates, apples )

- incense ( vanilla, lavender, rose )

always remember to wash your hands & cleanse yourself before giving an offering!

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WAYS TO HONOUR HER

- compliment yourself

- do your makeup / dress up for yourself

- make a skin / body care routine

- paint your nails

- keep pictures of her or any loved ones in your home

- drink some wine

- listen to love songs / watch rom-coms

- visit the beach / go swimming

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HER SYMBOLS

- doves

- seashells

- roses

- myrtle

- swans

- sparrows

- golden apples

- pomegranates

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do your own research, don't fully trust everything you read online & please correct me if i've spread misinformation!

[ravensuperr]

Gotham baby mystery part 9

Constantine strolled past the threshold with his usual swagger, his trench coat billowing slightly behind him. The scent of cigarettes and stale whiskey clung to him like an aura, but it wasn’t just that—it was him. His presence demanded attention, even here, among gods and spirits.

A murmur rippled through the chamber. Several deities exchanged glances; a few spirits tensed. Some knew him well—too well. Yet, what stood out the most was the distinct lack of immediate hostility. No angry exes. No vengeful gods trying to smite him on sight.

Instead, there was a peculiar sense of... interest.

That complicated things.

Constantine’s sharp eyes scanned the chamber before settling on Clockwork. His usual smirk twitched at the corner of his lips.

“So then… should I call you Clockwork? Or would you prefer Cronus?”

A few beings bristled at the name, but Clockwork merely inclined his head, neither confirming nor denying. His expression remained unreadable.

Constantine exhaled slowly, running a hand through his messy blond hair before pointing a finger at the Master of Time.

“I’ve got some questions, mate. And for once, I’m not in the mood for riddles or cryptic bollocks.”

The weight of his demand settled over the room. Even among gods and immortals, John Constantine had a way of making himself impossible to ignore.

Clockwork tilted his head slightly. “Then ask, John Constantine. And we shall see if you are ready for the answers.”

The room fell into expectant silence.

John smirked. “Oh, don’t you worry. I’ve been ready for a long time.”

The Side Room Dispute

Before he could even begin, however, Clockwork lifted a hand.

“This discussion is for the Council alone,” he said evenly. “Serenity. Box Ghost. You will wait outside.”

Serenity froze. “Wait—what?” She took a step forward, her wings twitching in agitation. “I crossed over to get here. I have just as much right to—”

“You will be summoned when the time is right.” Clockwork’s voice was calm but firm.

Box Ghost, standing at her side, puffed up. “But I saw what happened! Wouldn’t it be wise for me to—”

“No.”

Serenity shot Constantine a glare, as if blaming him for this. “You’d better not screw this up,” she muttered before reluctantly turning to leave.

Box Ghost hesitated, then—under the silent, expectant stares of the entire Council—slowly shuffled after her.

As the doors closed behind them, a powerful enchantment sealed the chamber. No sound would escape. No prying eyes would see what came next.

Constantine let out a low whistle. “Bloody hell, you lot don’t mess around.”

The Hard Questions Begin

Now it was just him, the Council, and the questions that had been burning in the back of his mind ever since Deadman delivered that cryptic memo to the Justice League Dark. It had been vague—too vague. Some answers were given, but others were left open-ended.

That wasn’t going to fly.

Constantine had already been on the other side of the world fighting a demon when that mess started. A demon, mind you, who had taken one look at him and said: We screwed up. We’re so dead. We are totally dead.

That alone had set off alarm bells. But what the demon said next?

"Lady Gotham and her Knight."

And now here he was, standing in a room full of deities, staring down the Master of Time himself, trying to get enough answers to not get chewed out by Batman later.

Because if he didn’t have a solid explanation by the time he faced the Bat, he’d be wishing a demon had killed him instead.

He took a slow drag of his cigarette, then flicked the ashes onto the floor.

“All right. First question.” He looked Clockwork dead in the eye. “Is this whole plan riding on Batman’s dead kid? Yes or no?”

Clockwork didn’t blink.

“Yes.”

The chamber was silent.

John froze. His grip faltered—the cigarette nearly tumbled from his fingers.

“…Shit.”

'Okay. Okay. Deep breath. Next question.'

“How old’s the kid?”

“Fourteen.”

This time, the cigarette did slip.

The small ember hit the floor and was snuffed out as Constantine stared at Clockwork, waiting—praying—for some kind of correction.

None came.

“…You mean to tell me,” he began, voice slow and dangerously calm, “that the supposed Warrior of the Realms, the one meant to save all of us from cosmic annihilation, is fourteen bloody years old?”

Clockwork nodded.

Constantine scrubbed a hand down his face, exhaling hard.

“Oh, bollocks.”

The Council was still watching him. Expectant.

“…Gender?”

“Spoiler.”

“…Okay then.”

This was fine. He could roll with this. Maybe. He’d survived weirder.

“Can I know the kid’s name?”

“Danny.”

John let out a sharp breath, pinching the bridge of his nose before leveling a glare at Clockwork. “Alright, then. Give me one good reason—just one—why I shouldn’t march straight to the Justice League and tell Batman that his 14-year-old kid is the bloody Messiah for the Infinite Realms.”

He held up a finger. “And don’t even try any magic loopholes or cosmic bullshit, mate. You know I can get around those. So give me a real, decent reason—one that’ll actually hold up—because you and I both know that if there’s anyone on this godforsaken planet who needs to know this, it’s Batman.”

John let out a sharp scoff, raking a hand through his already-messy hair. “You know, the same paranoid bastard who makes contingency plans for every single person he meets—including himself, in case he goes dark. Hell, I just found out he updated his plan on me. Took a look at it, by the way, and let me tell you, Clockwork, the new version? A hell of a lot worse than the last one.”

Silence stretched in the chamber.

Clockwork finally spoke. And whatever he said—whatever the reason was—made the entire council room go deathly still.

John’s expression twisted as he stared at Clockwork. His voice, when he finally spoke, was quiet.

“Please tell me I misheard that.”

Nothing.

He swallowed. “No, seriously. Tell me I got that wrong. Because if what you just said is true—” He let out a shaky breath, eyes darkening. “I pray to every bloody god in this room that you’re lying. That this is just another cryptic mind game of yours.” “Because that kid—” His voice dropped lower, barely above a whisper. “That child… is just fourteen. And he doesn’t deserve any of this.”

Shaking, John took a deep drag of his cigarette and muttered, “Final question… Is there any timeline where we don’t have to rely on a bloody 14-year-old kid to save the multiverse?!”

Clockwork remained silent.

Constantine’s patience snapped. “Say something—anything!” Clockwork remained silent. At this point, everyone in the council was yelling, demanding Clockwork say something—anything. They were just as unsettled as Constantine—the Master of Time refusing to answer was more terrifying than any answer he could have given. Despite the uproar, a simple “yes” or “no” would have sufficed. But Clockwork stayed silent. And in that moment, they understood. They all did. Because the truth was too cruel to say aloud. Because if there had been an answer—any answer—he would have given it.

[unrepentantgeek]

Geek interested in mythology here! I love dp x dc stories. They can be really awesome, sometimes they're hilarious.

I'm just as amused as everyone else by the "Wonder Woman & co panic over Clockwork because he's Zeus' awful dad, the leader of the Titans.

However, whether he's called Cronus Kronos he's actually not the deity of time. That's a second person, named Chronos. Who I think might be a primordial deity predating the Titans.

I don't tend to nitpick this because mythology this long after when it originally came to be isn't distinct or definitive enough to warrant fretting over. After all, one could easily assume this is a case where a later generation of deity has the same domain as a prior generation. (See Gaia & Demeter. And how sometimes people ignore Selene & Helios existing- or don't know they do- and instead called the twin gods Artemis & Apollo the moon & sun deities.)

However I'm very interested in seeing someone play with this technicality.

The way I picture it goes something like this. Danny & the JL &/or JLD or whatever mixture you want- Batfam & Constantine could work too- are working together. Or Amity Park & the GIW have just been discovered.

During story time or debriefing Danny goes "Clcokwork said-". Or else when answering a question he starts his explanation with "According to Clockwork".

Naturally this gets interrupted to ask who Clockwork is. (Or a JLD member or JLD aligned person freaks out)

Once those present know who Clockwork is & somewhat understand his status in the Infinite Realms someone who mostly knows or only knows the modern reinterpretations- maybe Flash or Green Lantern?- comes out with something like "wait, the guy who ate his kids? Is it safe for you to be near him?"

Chaos ensues. If you want to go the "Chronos & Cronus both have power over time" route que a moment for Wonder Woman or JLD member or choice to panic.

Once someone gets things back on track Danny or whoever else you want clarifies that no, Clockwork is either Chronos not Cronus or not from the Greek pantheon at all.

I'm inclined for Clockwork being Chronos, so if you do that there should also be a moment for the shock or other form of overreaction to Danny's connection to a deity who's a bigger shot than even a Titan.

[lunarforager]

Who Is Aphrodite?

Welcome to the first of my "Introductions to the Hellenic Gods" post series! I thought it wise to start with Aphrodite as she is the deity I have been working with the longest and is also one of my favourites of the 12 Olympians. Now, onto the introduction!

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Aphrodite is the name given to the ancient Greek goddess of love, beauty, passion, pleasure and sexuality. Her Roman equivalent is the goddess Venus.

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There are multiple myths that speak of Aphrodite's birth/creation.

Hesiod, in his Theogony, said that Aphrodite was brought into being when Cronus cut off the genitals of his father, Uranus, and threw them into the sea. Out of the sea foam created by the mixing of blood and water emerged the beautiful goddess.

Homer, on the other hand, in the Iliad, says that Aphrodite is the daughter of Zeus and Dione (who is either an Oceanid or a Titan, depending on the author).

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Aphrodite also has many different epithets, or versions of herself that were worshipped in different places across Greece. I suggest looking into all the different versions of her that are out there, they are all so fascinating!

But my favourite of all of her forms, is Aphrodite Areia, translated as Aphrodite the Warlike. This form of Aphrodite was worshipped by the Spartans and she was seen in a similar light to Ares or Athena, as a goddess of war and battle, often depicted in a full armor.

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Aphrodite was worshiped by many across Greece and throughout both the Classical and Hellenistic periods. In the Classical period the festival of Aphrodisia was held in her honor and in the Hellenistic period, Aphrodite had many temples and was particulary worshipped in Alexandria.

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To wrap up this post, I wanted to share my favourite stories and art pieces that mention or depict Aphrodite.

The Aeneid, by Virgil --> Venus (the Roman equivalent to Aphrodite) appears often as she is the mother of the main character, Aeneas

Venus de Milo --> Statue of Venus carved during the Hellenistic period, currently in the Louvre

The Birth of Venus painted by Sandro Botticelli --> A beautiful work of art depicting the birth of Venus as she rose from the sea

Aphrodite of Knidos sculpted by Praxiteles of Athens --> My favourite statue of Aphrodite, marks an important shift in art at the time as typically only men were depicted nude as a display of heroism

Aphrodite and Anchises by Homer --> Aphrodite annoyed the god Zeus by causing gods to fall in love with mortals, so he made her fall in love with a mortal named Anchises who later would be the father of her son, Aeneas of the Aeneid