#hsr aglaea

[havanillas]

she's greek myth inspired AND blonde if hoyo gives her a soothing voice and a situationship with a complimentary colored lesbian it's SO OVER FOR ME

[b1adie]

amphoreus' saga of heroes ✧ aglaea

[iamacultest]

I SWEAR DR.RATIO IS FROM AMPHOREUS (I am probably going crazy-)

[saunne]

AMPHOREUS LORE - AGLAEA ANALYSIS

So, I think everyone saw it, but we were graced today with the drip marketing for Aglaea, a 5-Star Lightning unit on the brand new Remembrance Path. Hence the reason why I’m back from the dead, in order to dissect and analyze everything I can about this sliver of lore we were given.

1. Who is Aglaea in Greek Mythology ?

Aglaea (Ἀγλαΐα) can be translated to “splendor”, “radiance”. It is the name of the youngest of the Charites or Graces, minor goddesses said to be patronesses of amusement and festivities, presiding over things such as grace, beauty, adornment, mirth, banquet, rest, happiness, relaxation etc. Although there are many names associated with the Charites, it is customary to recognize three main ones : Aglaea (Splendor, Beauty and Adornment), Euphrosyne (Cheer, Mirth, Merriment and Joy) and Thalia (Abundance, Festivities and Banquets). 

The Charites also served as attendants for Hera and Aphrodite, Homer specifically associating them to the retinue of Aphrodite. There are also mentions of their involvement with the Underworld and the Eleusinian Mysteries (secret rites for Persephone and Demeter), although exact sources on this specific part are lacking. I’m still keeping it however, for some specific reasons.

They were said to be the daughters of Zeus and Eurynome, one of the elder Okeanides. However, according to the Orphic Hymns, their mother would rather be Eunomia, the goddess of good order and lawful conduct. Their godly father being Zeus, it could explain why Hoyoverse chose to make Aglaea a Lightning unit.

Another interesting fact is that Aglaea is sometimes equated with Charis and according to Hesiod’s Theogony, this would make her Hephaestus’ wife, following his divorce with Aphrodite. This is interesting for one specific reason : the automatons surrounding her in her drip marketing. Hephaestus was the Olympian god of fire, smiths, craftsmen and metalworking and some of his greatest achievements were the Automatones, animated metal statues of animal, men and monsters. Among these Automatons, we find the Kourai Khryseai (Golden Maidens) : woman-shaped, gold automatons serving as attendants for his palace.

2. What can we guess from her titles ?

In the drip marketing post, we were offered a gaggle of titles : Dressmaster of Okhema, Chrysos Heir, Weaver of Gold, Goldweaver, bearer of the Coreflame of Romance… Although they may seem a little obscure, they actually refer to quite a number of things.

Chrysos (χρῡσός) means “gold”, or in a more poetic sense, “something dear and precious”. However, it’s more the “gold” aspect which will interest us, notably because of Aglaea’s character design which is covered in it. Gold was primarily associated with deities, symbolizing power, authority, wealth and eternal life (think about the golden apples of the Hesperides).

This brings us to the title “Goldweaver”, which is also fascinating. In Greek Mythology, one of the well-known weaving myth is about the Moirai, the three sisters personifying destiny and weaving the fate of every being in existence. Being the weaver, Aglaea would be equated to Clotho, the Moirai responsible for spinning the thread, responsible for choosing when a person was born as well as when deities or mortals were to be saved or put to death, being able to resurrect people of her choosing (for example Pelops, Tantalus’ son).

However, another weaving myth is preponderant in Greek mythology : Arachne and Athena weaving contest, a long known cautionary tale about the consequences of hubris in the face of the divine. Athena and Hephaestus were considered as the great patrons both of the useful and elegant arts, as Athena was also the goddess of crafts such as pottery and weaving. Aglaea’s title as “Dressmaker” could be a reference to this, and more particularly to the Arrephoros, girl acolytes in the cult of Athena Polias, responsible for supervising the weaving of the peplos used during the Panathenaea. Or it could also be a reference to the Charites’ role as Aphrodite’s attendants, as Homer mentioned they were the one to weave and dye her peplos.

Finally, Coreflame of Romance would have been the most obscure title, if not for all the previous explanations about the Charites’ association with Aphrodite. According to the Dionysiaca, there was once a time when Aphrodite attempted to weave better than Athena out of jealousy, aided in her endeavor by the Charites, Aglaea being the one passing her the yarn. 

3. What about Okhema and Amphoreus ?

Okhema is here referenced to be a city, but we already met that word, in a slightly different form : “Regret of Infinite Ochema”, the Trace material given by Phantylia. An Okhema (ὄχημα) is a carrier/vehicle for the soul in Neoplatonism. It is particularly important in Plato’s Myth of Er, where the main character recount his journey in the afterlife, including an account of reincarnation and the celestial spheres of the astral plane. A city named Okhema could imply either the “vehicle” aspect of the okhema, maybe being a moving city…. or since an okhema could be thought as a recipient for a soul, that the city itself could play a role in anchoring the souls of its inhabitants or allowing their travels/transport from one point/place/state to another.

We’ve got another thing about Okhema, the part “holy city kissed by dawn”. Many places could be considered “holy” in greek mythology. One of them is Elefsina, known as Eleusis and holy site of the Eleusinian Mysteries mentioned earlier alongside Delphi, where is kept the omphalos (the chinese name for Amphoreus is the word omphalos). However, the “kissed by dawn” was more interesting, as Greek mythology have a personification of the dawn in the goddess Eos, often equated with Hemera.  Eos’ myths are heavily connected to Aphrodite, in addition to her being the mother of the Anemoi, the greek gods of the winds and in the post, Aglaea said “the wind brought me news of you”.

About Amphoreus… we know next to nothing about it, except its moniker “The Eternal Land” and that it is “hidden away from outside observation, its presence only revealed by the light from the mirror of the Garden of Recollection” according to Black Swan. It was also mentioned that it was  “fettered by three Paths” and given the involvement of the Garden, it seems safe to bet on Remembrance being one of them. I think Amphoreus could honestly be a place filled to the brim with memoria, if not entirely dreamscape-like, similarly to Penacony’s Dreamscape.

Amphoreus reference the amphora, a container used for the storage and transportation of various goods such as wine and oil, in addition to being a common support for vase painting. One interesting thing is that painted amphoras were often used for funerary purposes, as graves markers or recipients for funeral offerings or human remains. Which is even more interesting considering that the post mentioned “the dying land of Amphoreus”, which leads me to think that one of the three Paths fettering Amphoreus might be Finality. 

As for why it’s dying, the answer is quite explicit when you know your mythology : “they will smite down the gods, return the divine fire”. This is Prometheus myth, and if we have Prometheus myth, we have Pandora’s Box in tow. And  tell me, what is a pithos if not a massive amphora ? In Prometheus’ myth, the gods didn’t take back the gift of fire, but what if they did in Amphoreus ? In addition to letting their Pandora release the curses of death, sickness and all other various evils to plague humankind ?

The idea of Remembrance and Finality being two of the three Paths in Amphoreus is even more endorsed by the mention of granting rebirth.  We know that Fuli’s realm “Eden of Blessed Insight” also known as the Pure Land of Recollection, serves to store memories that “shall serve to reshape the entirety of the world after its annihilation”. It’s basically backup data in case of inevitable doom, in order to recreate the universe as it once was. Aglaea having a “Mnestia” as Divine Authority is also adding to it, as Mnestia more than probably comes from “mnestic”, meaning “pertaining to memory”.

That’s one of the reason why I kept the information about the Charites being linked to the Underworld and the Eleusinian Mysteries, between the funerary amphoras, the okhema and Myth of Er and now that, it seems important enough to keep track of any references to death and rebirth. The aforementioned “Chrysalis” is also counting in said references, as it’s a common symbol for death and rebirth by metamorphosis/transformation.

I have another theory to talk about, but this is already long enough  I fear.

[thecertifiedboykisser]

Aglaea and ratio have wayy to many similarities to not be related in some way. Or atleast be from the same planet.

(Date of this being made is November 19th 2024 at like 11pm MST so no trailers have come out yet and I have seen zero leaks.)

Helpful visual i will be referring to:)

Starting of, the hair clip plant thing is the same for both of them, Aglaea just has two, probably because she holds the flame of romance. The sandles are similar styles. Though Aglaeas just seem to be more elegant and regal while ratios seem like just regular sandles. Both are gold and have some accessory to them.

There eyes, oh boy, it's not very clear here but if you go to the short on the hsr channel, you can see Aglaea has the same 'eyeliner' looking stuff but yellow and sparkly. Both eyes have some sort of heterochromja. Veritas has central while Aglaea has split.

Now, to a more subtle thing, the patterns. Both have themes. Veritas has his owls to represent wisdom and knowledge and stuff. Aglaea has plants and the leaf looking patterns.

This is where I'm getting into real life mythological to look into some of the symbolizem stuff, Aglaea is covered in gold and generally is painted in an ethereal kind of way. The mannequins are for the most part looking up at her in an almost like she is. Above them. The real life Aglaea is the goddess of beauty, splendor, glory, and adornment (don't quote me on that that's just what I found) it fits with how the character is portrayed.

Now, the stuff circled in blue is similar patterns, it's a swirl going in, and both of them have it complimenting their own themes. It's probably something we're gonna see with more character coming out.

Now this might be a stretch but the way they talk seems similar aswell

Both from official drip marketing, they read, to me atleast, the same. The language seems similar. But ratio seems more modernized while Aglaea seems more old fashioned (it literally says O,) and I think that's because of the IPC. Now this is treading into HC territory, but it is plausible.

Ratio probably sounded more like Aglaea when he first left his home planet for the intelligencea guild, which I do think they have some contact with Amphoreous if not very little. But as he was around people who spoke more modernized, he developed that too.

This is mostly just me pointing put there similarities and feeding into my thoughts that were finally gonna get ratio lore in 3.0

Especially since, in penacony, he was more of a support to aven than his own arc, especially since he wasnt released during penacony. I think he was made for amphoreous and penacony was just to get his character a little bit better and have some more connected threads to the new plant than just Black swan.

[amberheavendremurr]

Skipping everyone and everything for her and I’m guaranteed! E0S1 Aglaea here I come!!! 😍

[tthelady]

HELLO!?! I WILL BE PULLING FOR HER

[krawlernyannyan]

It's still teasers week and our next character up is our first Amphoreus character, Aglaea!

"O, noble guest from afar. The wind brought me news of you along the golden threads. My name is Aglaea, the Dressmaster of Okhema and one of Amphoreus' Chrysos Heirs. I hope we treat each other with honesty." In that holy city kissed by the dawn, the weaver caresses the golden thread and connects destiny. Aglaea the Goldweaver, the Chrysos Heir bearing the Coreflame of "Romance"... You shall summon the heroes of this world, and lead them to once again embark on an endless journey — Where they will smite down the gods, return the divine fire, and grant rebirth to the dying land of Amphoreus. City: Okhema Divine Authority: Mnestia, Chrysalis of Gold

She's on a brand new Path! Remembrance is the first to join our other seven!

[requinum]

I'm cooked

[egg-witch]

I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone talking about this but I am VERY excited about a certain leaked upcoming character. I have theories and I really hope they're on the mark

So, Aglaea. Hear me out. I have two theories:

1. She's Yanqing's mother

Blonde hair (which is stated in one of Luocha's character stories to be unusual for a Xianzhou native so it's notable that she and Yanqing share this trait)

Ice powers

Appears to use a sword as a weapon

According to leaks she'll be debuting in the story toward the end of the Wardance questline

Yanqing is currently in the spotlight in the story

He never knew his parents and it's implied by his text conversations that Jing Yuan is hiding something significant in that regard

(side note, a reveal of Yanqing's birth mother would naturally raise the question of the father - well, that could be anyone really, but I'm just saying if he has his mom's hair and his dad's eyes... what a scandal it would be if the General didn't simply happen to "find" a newborn baby after all... just saying 👀)

Theory 2 leads on from this:

2. She's in Luocha's coffin

We're in the lead up to that reveal since we've yet to witness the outcome of Jingliu and Luocha's planned stunt, and I assume that's coming next patch - Hoolay is now actively hunting Jingliu down so she is definitely going to appear

If Luocha is telling the truth, there is a person in there

A person who he's returning to the Xianzhou to fulfil a promise and repay a debt

Aglaea has leaf, vine and white flower motifs on her design. Whatever is in Luocha's coffin has vine-themed powers and is associated with white irises (the white flowers on Aglaea's outfit, from the picture we have, could definitely be stylised irises)

Her design is just very reminiscent of the coffin in general

One complicating factor here is that apparently Aglaea's path will be Destruction, not Abundance - however lore and gameplay paths don't always match strictly, and we also have a pretty strong explanation for why that may be in this case:

Luocha smuggled the Stellaron onto the Luofu for Phantylia. The Stellaron is not with him any more, but that coffin may well have been how he got it on board in the first place... He immediately recognises that the Trailblazer has a Stellaron inside them, and remarks that he's surprised the energy radiating from it seems calmer than he'd expect. The one interaction we've seen between Luocha and the inhabitant of that coffin where it responded at all, it was immediately violent. Aglaea might have been a vessel, Luocha's means of getting the Stellaron onto the Luofu undetected - this being his side of the deal he struck with her, in return for bringing her home.

edit: everyone stop liking and reblogging this it's debunked sorry it's wrong lol

[havanillas]

[ihatechosingnames]

The new versions are thick with new characters that I want but don't have enough stellar jades so new plan:

Sunday, I want you, but I have enough Harmony characters that for now I have to skip you for your next rerun.

Since Jiaoqiu didn't come, you better be. I need a 5 star Nihility character that deal DoT.

The Herta. Obviously I need her. So that I can put her next to her puppet. What kind of magic can she do when in team with Himeko? Will she do the Kuru-kuru?

Her design is beautiful, it's the first character on the Remembrance path. We may hope to have also Mr. Rec (he is too detailed to be just an npc) as a character with this path (maybe even Black Swan).

I am trying to get Aventurine but I have my hope low: I got Rappa early and by winning the 50/50, hoping to win Aventurine on 50/50 it's too much. I only hope to get Himeko or Welt E1. At this time I may E6 Gepard.

[endlessskymaster]

Aglaea drip-marketing.

5* · Lightning · Remembrance

[justice4spacedogs]

SHES HEREEE

[nova-rogue]

OH I'M COOKED FR

Twitter Screenshot Reads:

"Amphoreus' Saga of Heroes" | Aglaea "O, noble guest from afar. The wind brought me news of you along the golden threads. My name is Aglaea, the Dressmaster of Okhema and one of Amphoreus' Chrysos Heirs. I hope we treat each other with honesty." ▉ Aglaea, "Weaver of Gold" In that holy city kissed by the dawn, the weaver caresses the golden thread and connects destiny. Aglaea the Goldweaver, the Chrysos Heir bearing the Coreflame of "Romance"... You shall summon the heroes of this world, and lead them to once again embark on an endless journey — — Where they will smite down the gods, return the divine fire, and grant rebirth to the dying land of Amphoreus. City: Okhema Divine Authority: Mnestia, Chrysalis of Gold #HonkaiStarRail

[elysiadreams]

IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME HER NAME IS AGLAEA FROM THE GREEK ΑΓΛΑΪ́Α OH MY GOD SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING A PLANTED BASED ON ANCIENT GREECE WE WON