#Tangled theory

[eclipseofthemoonsmood]

So rewatching last episode of Tangled The Series, I was studying all the people in this last frame- and i gotta say. I found something a bit strange. But it wasn't who i saw. It's what.

Here, we can see Attila, holding a cake.

In the shape of a key.

As we know, Chris Sonnenburg, was pretty rude to Varian fans online for a while. " They're aren't focusing on the right things." He kept saying. What if he meant the little things like this? And if he did, what does this mean? Could this little key mean something deeper for the show? If you look closely, it almost looks like the top of the key is in the shape of a crown. But it could just be pixelated. Will we ever know for sure? Is this key a metaphorical key for the show? Meaning that the show is a key to a new realm of possibilities? Or am I just crazy. Tell me your theories! And if anyone knows anything about this interesting easter egg, I'd love to hear about it. Also yes, I was listening to Kronos Unveiled from The Incredibles while writing this.

[animagicsalina]

Chapter Eight - “The Water Kingdom Trial” (Part 4/4)

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And I’m back with the last part of this chapter! I’m ngl it’s been a rough semester with all my classes and losing my Apple Pencil and such. But I hope y’all’s like dis 👉🏼

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Also I have no idea whether to do a filler chapter (which I’ve written a while ago) or go straight to the Air Kingdom (which I have not fully fleshed out yet)

[questiontocertaintyofreality]

Disney-Frozen and Tangled Mirror Theory

A long time ago I read a theory explaining that the original Snow Queen's Magic Mirror was Disney's True Villain. I realized something today. Before I explain it, this theory holds that every Disney story has a "Magic Mirror as the real villain."

Now we all know that Tangled and Frozen take place in the same universe.

Because we saw Rapunzel and Eugene at Elsa's coronation. My theory depend on "the same universe" theory, i found another parallel. In the episode "A Tale Of Two Sisters" of Tangled the series, we saw that Gothel had a lot of mirrors and looked at them for days.

She has a collection. When Rapunze live in the tower we saw Gothel looks into the mirror in the tower and think about herself's beauty for hours. Arrogant. The mirror which Rapunzel when she first wore the crown. In the story of the Snow Queen, the Magic Mirror created by the trolls, then broken. The mirror falls to the earth, reaches people's hearts and eyes. What if the peace of the broken mirror enters the peace of ALL mirrors on earth ? Turn humans to peoples who look at all the beauty with selfishness and are unlogical suspicious of the earth and people. Feed their unreasonable feelings . When the Tale Of Two sisters happened Cassandra notice the mirrod which changed by Zhan Tiri then look at it. From the first time Cassandra saw her changed memories with Gothel, Cassandra believes that this is Rapunzel's trick before listening to Rapunzel. Even Rapunzel never leaves Cassandra in Gothel's place and they  looks at all the mirrors  together. The peace of Magic Mirror is in all mirrors. In yesterday's tomorrow's house there was a real mirror that turns people into their villains, yes Gothel is arrogant but this mirror feeds her. Cassandra doesn't trust Rapunzel but mirror feed it. If Cassandra doesn't trurst Rapunzel with no doubt why she feel she can be a team with Rapunzel and feel happiness when getting along with Rapunzel

Cassandra, I don't think the mirror turn her against Rapunzel and did all this. Cassandra's villain was realistic and amazing. Also Varian's

Then after all this, I found a Frozen - Tangled Parallel

The mirror feed Gothel's arrogant mind for years now shows Gothel's true self. Because it broken peace by peace

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Second mirror in Arendelle's boat the boat Agnar and Iduna use to their search for Antohallan. What if Agnar look at this mirror and mirror covers the heart of Agnar with an unreasonable doubt about Elsa's power (reasonable doubt is an extremely useful thing, but it is unreasonable.....) and wants to keep Elsa a secret forever. He doesn't want to show Elsa to the world or make Elsa accept her powers. The Royal family of Arendelle had a fear of magic that influenced King Agnar in his childhood, but now it mirror reflects his fears.

If this theory is real, trolls have knowledge about the magic Mirror, but trolls are not evil. Even in this theory love can melt mirrors

I protect Eugune's mirrors Eugene never affected by mirror

[adventuretolkienlover]

Okay, please tell I'm not the only one who noticed this. Vex's ear are like, super pointy!

Okay, y'all gonna call me crazy. But think about it. We've never seen her parents. She has unusually pointy ears. And she's very talented with weapons. I suspect...

She may be part elvish.

Do you see it?! I do! Anyone else notice this? This may or may not be important to my fic later.

[im-totally-not-an-alien-2]

Breaking news! Vicky Vale leaks footage of Brucie Wayne following the new teenage rogue 'Phantom' around the city saying "Please let me adopt you 😭"

Phantom refuses and saying he's a supervillian not a lost puppy.

Turns out this was a part of Bruces plan however as Phantom now sees people all over tv talking about him and the Waynes and already considering him a new member of the family. They're even asking when there will be a face reveal. There was a reason he was wearing a mask! He. Is.. A. Villian. What about that do these people not get?!

Sure he doesn't kill people. Or hurt people at all really. Or steal from small family owned businesses. Or...yeah ok. Just because you're a bad guy doesn't mean you have to be a bad guy, ya know? Apparently Gotham doesn't.

Cause they insist hes just a very confused hero

[benjitoes]

me when benji brainrot goes so hard that i start making any au possible, i present to u, benji tangled au idk what im gonna do with this yet

[the-northern-continent]

It’s hard to talk about this without it sounding like a Mass Effect crossover (which is not what I’m suggesting), but I genuinely think that some/all of the evanuris have been to outer space.

Evidence:

A very straightforward interpretation of “the Void” is space. Like the only reason we don’t instantly think it’s space is because we’re in high fantasy.

Ditto for “Forgotten Ones”.

The astrarium sidequest encourages us to connect old gods with the stars.

Falon’Din walks the night, where the People cannot live, through “airless skies”.

He’s also associated with uthenera, aka cryosleep.

Some very alien monsters are now appearing in Thedas, and also in Ghilan’nain’s workshop(s), which seems to have some connection to the Blight (darkspawn and wardens are the ones being “treated”).

Where does the Blight come from? Oh yeah, that’s right, the Void. A place so hostile Andruil had to don armor of the Void to enter it. 🧑‍🚀

tl;dr the reason the elves lost control of the Blight is because it’s alien terraforming tech. Yes it can injure the titans; yes it may grant you power. But there will be a couple very unwanted side effects.

BTW I know not everyone is a huge fan of sci-fi crashing into fantasy stories, but I think it can be fun if everything is through the eyes of the fantasy characters. You get very poetic interpretations of what’s happening, which is a different angle than what you usually see in sci-fi. If this theory turns out to be true, I imagine everything will still be treated largely as magic, with the sci-fi elements remaining slightly ambiguous.

[dasketcherz]

OH MY GOD !!!! WAIT!!! BECAUSE LIKE!!!! it's also the way that not even Zhan Tiri was able to piece the incantations together throughout her entire mortal years (that she literally needed to appear in varian's dream to stir him in the correct clue but relied on him to actually decipher it because she couldnt) and yet it only took Varian a mere five weeks to crack the demanitus scroll's secrets and make an entire translation key (that he was able to remember by memory as well mind you) for it. Like yes, that absolutely displays the level of intelligence and how truly gifted this kid is, but it could indeed be hintin at something more!!

And also not to mention, this from the bullet point lore for vat7k:

LIKE??? HELLO???!!?

One thing I realized while rewatching the Tangled: The Series finale is that Varian’s father and Lord Demanitus look awfully similar…

(Quirin looks more soft than him ofc but to be fair I’m talking about, like, a guy who lived a thousand years before Quirin)

Soooo… any chance that Varian is actually Lord Demanitus’ descendant? Eclipse Varian anyone??/ref

[lumosnite]

Blah blah blah ratfish this ratfish that

THE REAL CONVERSATION WE SHOULD BE HAVING IS THAT SAMUEL DALTON HAS ONCE AGAIN POSSESSED SAMUEL DALTON REICH AND HE IS BEING EVEN SNEAKIER ABOUT IT THIS TIME BUT POSSESSING HIS WHOLE ASS BODY INSTEAD OF SIMPLY KIDNAPPING HIM AND RATFISH IS HIS INCREDIBLY UNSUBTLE WAY OF SIGNALING THIS. HE MADE A WHOLE FINALE ABOUT PEOPLE PRETENDING TO BE ANOTHER PERSON UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME JUST LIKE HE HAS BEEN DOING HERE THE WHOLE TIME

AT THE END HE EVEN SAYS ALWAYS BE YOURSELF UNLESS THE USERNAME IS ALREADY TAKEN. BUT SAMUEL DALTON’S NAME HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN SINCE SAM REICH’S FULL NAME IS SAMUEL DALTON REICH JUST LIKE SAMUEL DALTON COINCIDENCE??? I THINK NOT

As many have already pointed out Samuel Dalton probably possessed Sam during Deja Vu and now all he is doing is making himself the true ratfish of the game by being a pretender amidst the cast and crew. Pretending to be Sam Reich

Also idk it’s pretty sus that when Grant asked for a town with an Ivy League school that Sam didn’t immediately say Cambridge Massachusetts and he used a different Ivy League town. THIS IS NOT MY SAM

[green-opal03]

Babe wake up!!!! A new ship emerged!!!!!!

[animagicsalina]

CHAPTER EIGHT - “THE WATER KINGDOM TRIAL” (Part 3/4)

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I have returned, if briefly! Over the winter break, I managed to get these pages done for y’all. There’s still one more part to this chapter but I have started classes once more and will be very busy. No, I have not canceled this project. :)

[pixiedust111]

1. That makes sense! But... was it? I can't see... 🤔. It seems like she actually tied a knot there!

2. Haha! Anyway, normal kiss on forehead or cheeks can leave saliva on someone's face as well. It doesn't necessarily have to be 'making out with dead corpse' 'cause eww...it sounds disturbing 😬!

I have questions regarding these two scenes. Why didn't Gothel put handcuffs on both of his hands? It would have prevented him from cutting Rapunzel's hair! Second is, like tears, would saliva work? For example, if she had kissed him instead, would it have healed Eugene as well? 😁

[gwenie-clorrisan]

OKAY SO WAIT A MOMENT...

Disney's Wish could have been so good, and we all know this, but what about this.

Instead of having the power couple out front right away, the movie could have played out almost exactly like it had...

Except at the final moment, when Asha needs help from everyone, one person ruins their plan. One person reveals their evil intent. Not Simon, not one of her cheesy, blank slated friends. Not even the annoying, useless goat. That person is Queen Amaya.

Taking a stand with her husband, she and Magnifico in the end are beaten because, hey, Disney movie. Magnifico is sucked into the staff. But now Asha has to have the stones to either lock up or banish Amaya. She chooses banishment, and is cast out of Rosas.

While away from the kingdom, she pulls something out of her sleeve... Magnifico's mirror, which was supposed to be seized from her before she left.

"Don't worry, my king, we'll find a way to set you free," she whispers. "But you serve a good purpose in there for now."

Magnifico showers his wife with praise of her beauty, and is able to tap into the power of the mirror, viewing the world from his cage. He sees their opportunity. A king with a daughter to raise in a distant kingdom.

They take it. Thus, Queen Amaya becomes a wicked stepmother to Snow White, and the Disney cycle becomes a loop. The newest Disney Princess movie begins the oldest. And the magic continues.

[red-archivist]

i gotta focus; im shifting into theory mode

so categories right? the categories for the fears? entities? of the protocol verse

we have the oiar's system of organising things- their overly (deliberately?) confusing ring binder of lists of names, things, places, people, and numbers- example:

CAT1RBC5257-12052022-09012024; Reanimation (Partial) -/- Regret [Email]

However, that's the 'official' governmental system- what if there is a different way to sort the cases and the externals, similar to smirke's fourteen (well, 15, but you know)

What if they can be sorted by alchemical elements?

Now, truthfully, there's no one consistent alchemical chart of elements/signs/notations; E.J. Holmyard's Alchemy (1957) lists several consisting of:

Fire, Earth, Water, Air, Gold, Silver, Copper, Iron, Mercury, Lead, Tin, Suphur, Salt, Aqua Fortis, Sal Ammoniac, Sublimation, Sublimate of Mercury, Realgar, Vitriol, Retort, Common Salt

However, given what Colin said at the end of the latest episode, I think we can restrict our categories to the three elements that make up the tria prima, the three primes of life

That's Mercury (☿), Sulfur (🜍), and Salt (🜔) - Mind, Spirit, and Body

If you remember when the logo for the show was revealed, I took a look at this specific part:

We have body and mind aligned with chevrons- implying they are being protected, whereas spirit surrounds them and sticks outwards- is that something more aggressive/used as a weapon (the externals?)

I haven't sat down to sort the different cases we've heard under these headings yet, but it's something I'm going to keep in mind going forward. All this alchemy stuff is so cool, can't to see how it will be implemented further

[raven-at-the-writing-desk]

Hi, Miss Raven! I saw a theory on twitter that you might be interested in:

The Princess Glow might actually be the magic flower from Tangled, since Princess Glow might be a reference for Rapunzel and her glowing hair and the flower supposedly has healing powers too

Hmm, interesting 🤔 That surprisingly… fits??? Rapunzul is a princess with glowing hair… hair which has the ability to not only heal (thanks to the magical flower her mom ingested while pregnant), but to reverse time. Heinrich also states he wants Princess Glow because he believes it will heal his ill father, the king.

… Which leads me into another theory I’ve heard. It goes, “so if Princess Glow supposedly has really great healing abilities, maybe they’ll find it and use it to help Lilia’s aging and make him young + healthy again”. I understand where this thinking comes from (we are obviously attached to Lilia and don’t want harm to befall him or his family). However, I think this would come off as a cheap deus ex machina, especially since Malleus said in book 6 that “not even he is capable of reversing time”. It would set up one expectation only to defy it with a super powerful item later.

I hope that it doesn’t happen 💦 because then it would kind of go against the messages of book 7… How we have to learn to accept loss, how we cannot fight the passage of time or change, how we can’t have happily ever afters all the time. It also implies a fear and a desire to run away from aging and saying goodbyes, delaying the inevitable rather than accept it as a natural thing we must cope with.

Sure, it might be a happy ending but it may be at the cost of sacrificing the themes and integrity of what the rest of the main story was building up to. Vil’s return to youth worked because some outside force drained his energy (it wasn’t the result of something natural). Idia still had a bittersweet ending because he was forced to confront and accept his brother’s passing even if he does gain a new brother in robo!Ortho in the process. Lilia’s circumstances are different. It would just be a net positive if he stayed with the group forever. If they do go down the “Princess Glow saves Lilia” route, I think they’d have to tread it very carefully so it doesn’t feel contrived.

[marvelmaniac715]

My first exposure to fan theories was in I think 2014 when my older sister showed me that Disney theory where Elsa and Anna’s parents from Frozen were sailing to Rapunzel from Tangled’s wedding but they obviously got shipwrecked, and that very ship was the one discovered by Ariel in The Little Mermaid, but they didn’t die in the shipwreck, they died in the jungle AFTER the Queen gave birth a baby boy who would go on to become, that’s right, Tarzan from Tarzan. That is why Rapunzel attends Elsa’s coronation. I’ve been obsessed with theories ever since because that theory blew my tiny mind.