[Transcription: citation taken from A Feast for Crows by George R. R. Martin. The quote reads:"Your Grace is kind, but Russell has never known any home but Longtable. I fear he would be lost in this great city."
"In the beginning," the queen allowed, "but he will soon outgrow that, as I did. When my father sent for me to court I wept and Jaime raged, until my aunt sat me down in the Stone Garden and told me there was no one in King's Landing that I need ever fear. 'You are a lioness,' she said, 'and it is for all the lesser beasts to fear you.' Your son will find his courage too. Surely you would prefer to have him close at hand, where you could see him every day? He is your only child, is he not?"]
Cersei admitting any kind of weakness is something sticking to me, and the real clue of her trust. Even if she fancies herself the manipulator, she is showing her true colors, and that's the sign that she cares about Taena and trusts her more than she would like to.
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@dcviline asked: “ What did you hear? ” (cersei @ taena)
Taena isn't sure if she should say or not. There is a short pause before, under the gaze of the Queen, she has no other option but to let the woman know. "It appears that the little show Aegon Targaryen had Myrcella put on is no longer a show." There is a short pause as she speaks again. Taena does not feel right betraying the Princess', one she saw growing up but it was important news, because it had been a grand political move. What Cersei never had, marrying a Targaryen, Myrcella had managed in a few months.
"A Septa confirmed with a certificate that Myrcella and Aegon are wed. And the marriage was consummated. No doubt of the matter." And according to the people on the castle who spied for them, there was no doubt about it, sheets were bled on, as well the noises that came from the chamber during the night. Gods above, she knows Cersei will not take it well. "Now he is traveling here to negotiate, and the Dornish army who kept the princess safe is with him."
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do u remember the characters who were complimented the most by their beauty in the books?
off the top of my head (and keeping in mind i’m still on asos and haven’t reread feastdance at least since the show ended so like 3-4 years) characters who get complimented most often for beauty are -
cersei
sansa
dany
margaery
jaime (not joking, he doesn’t get called handsome, he gets called beautiful. think more brad pitt and less george clooney)
joffrey (similar to jaime, altho tbf most of the comments on his beauty come from sansa)
loras
characters who are less complimented mostly due to them not being in every book but still notable beauties include-
arianne
catelyn & lysa - i’m like 80% sure people comment on lysa being beautiful when she’s younger & less so now, but don’t quote me there. i know people comment on cat being hot af when she’s younger, and multiple people remark on her hair so she clearly still Has It, she’s just not in a position where men are throwing themselves at her feet in the series given, ya kno, the war
melisandre
roslin frey
margaery’s lady’s court - her girls, taena, and alerie are all described at some point or another as being beautiful
taena of myr - wanted to mention her specifically, people tend to think of her as striking
val the wildling
ygritte the wildling - notable that this is incredibly conditional bc jon only starts referring to her as beautiful after they start sleeping together BUT the wildlings consider her beautiful bc of her hair
rohanne webber
characters noted to be beautiful by people who are clearly fishing for a compliment to pay her (aka, She Is Beautiful To Me, I Understand Her)-
jeyne westerling - i want to add her bc you have cat, robb, and jaime all acknowledge she’s “pretty enough” but are won over by her after talking to her, which probably speaks more to how she carries herself than her actual looks. but as a westerling stan, it’s notable To Me haha
brienne - i need to include this bc the “she could almost be a lady she could almost be a knight” is one of my favorite lines in the series, it makes me crazy and i think any post about beauty that doesn’t include brienne isn’t complete. that brienne gets the “brienne the beauty” moniker bc she’s ugly even as jaime keeps thinking about how she’s beautiful in some way or another is, imo, notable in how george sees & defines beauty (very much in the eye of the beholder, and that love can make you search for beauty in someone who is objectively not beautiful according to The Societal Standards)
arya - ned compares her to lyanna (and obviously ned isn’t gonna tell his daughter “you’re an uggo my sister was hot as fuck tho”) & gendry & edric both get a lil flustered over her
ellaria sand - noted that she’s not strictly beautiful but “something draws the eye” which seems like jeyne it’s about how she carries herself than her actual looks
jeyne poole - i mean. lots of comments about how she’s pretty ish and they’re clearly meant cruelly, almost as a way of tormenting her (no fancy last name, no wolf’s blood, not even pretty enough to get someone to rescue her)
pre-asoiaf mentioned in the main series for their beauty include-
lyanna stark
ashara dayne
missy blackwood
barba bracken
rhaegar targaryen
and pre-asoiaf characters noted to be beautiful in twoiaf or f&b-
rhaenys targaryen (the conqueror)
nymeria of ny sar
rhaena the lesbian
alyssa velaryon
jocelyn baratheon
viserra targaryen
rhaenys velaryon
rhaenyra targaryen - notable that she’s considered beautiful as a child but less so as an adult (bc westeros is full of fucking weirdos)
helaena targaryen - described as being more beautiful than alicent and that’s really it
daenaera velaryon - ditto on westeros being full of weirdos lol
jaehaera targaryen - again. she is like 12 when she dies but half the realm is commenting on this beautiful child. i hate these people so much.
baela targaryen
lady sam hightower
something that’s notable is that george makes a continued distinction between “pretty” and beautiful - alysanne targaryen is considered pretty but not beautiful, for example. so there’s people like jeyne westerling who are “pretty enough” as in, not ugly, not plain, but not, as jaime puts it “beautiful enough to lose a kingdom over” as in they are drop dead, model, helen of troy type gorgeous.
that’s also why i wanted to include the “fishing for compliments” type girls bc these women are very aware that they’re not pretty enough and often wind up carrying themselves differently as a response to this - if they can’t be gorgeous they’ll be so disarming, so striking, that people will spin back around to beautiful. ygritte is the biggest example of this imo because how jon perceives her beauty is very tied to how his relationship with her develops - he purposefully conflates her beauty with her violence bc he wants to find her violence beautiful bc that would make his life infinitely easier, and after she dies he’s very clear headed that she isn’t that pretty but she is TO HIM, she is beautiful in his memory because of his feelings for her. it makes him very wary of melisandre & val as a result - because he conflates beauty and violence in ygritte, it makes him wary of other harsh & beautiful women. or take lyanna, who is remembered often as being beautiful yet in ned’s memory, this beauty is part of what dooms her and he is outwardly hostile whenever people mention her beauty - to ned, that beauty brought only horror so he doesn’t dwell on it.
there’s lots of commentary here on what “beautiful” actually means from person to person, so while i would say the first group are more objectively beautiful, it’s also important to think about context - who is thinking they’re beautiful, why they’re thinking this, and what their relationship is.
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HIII welcome back!! 6, 19, 23, 31
HIII thank you!! Although I doubt I'll stay !
6. Starting with strong dislike to genuine love it’s probably Asha. Her introduction during Theon II…yeah let’s say I was not prepared for GRRM to turn her into such a cool and loveable character. It’s amazing to me how people use Euron‘s abuse of Aeron & Urri as proof for House Greyjoy being rotten to the core and blame it on the old ways but somehow Asha sexually assaulting Theon is turned into a form of mockery that almost mirrors in-universe reactions to that sort of abuse. As of today she is on my top 10 favourite characters but I really wish there would be some sort of acknowledgment from GRRM that her initial behaviour was inappropriate to say the least.
19. Aside from Jon being Lyanna‘s son I don’t have any. I don’t know why but I’m never too interested in speculating the future so most of the theories fly past me. Oh! There’s one! I don’t think Big Walder killed Little Walder, at least not on his own.
23. Oh where to begin! Sansa & Brienne, Jeyne P & Arya, Jeyne W & Sansa, Theon & Aeron, Theon & Falia, Jeyne P & Falia, Theon & Beth (looks at that one fanfic)....Ok ok...Jaime Lannister & Taena of Myr. Genuinely wondering how Jaime would feel upon finding out Cersei and her have been developing some sort of relationship.
31. People expect me to say Jeyne and I will say Jeyne but only on the condition we get exactly 1 chapter from her POV in the middle of the books and then nothing else. I need her to have her Wakaba Flourishing moment, and then just like Wakaba, go back to being an insignificant and replaceable side character. I need to feel the same sort of devastation. I need to imagine her with that look of apathy and emptiness. Wooohoo! However if I were to choose someone for a regular POV Character, it would be Irri. Her perception of things would easily solve many debates about Daenerys arc and I would genuinely love to find out more about her life as a former Khal's daughter and her feelings regarding the structural changes brought on by Dany. I often see people referring to her in a manner that implies her position as a slave had been all she used to know so I’m really curious about her sentiments regarding Dothraki culture and her own place as a former almost-princess.
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[Transcription: citation taken from A Feast for Crows by George R. R. Martin. The quote reads: The draperies swayed back and forth in a wash of crimson silk. "Orton told me that the High Septon has no name," Lady Taena said. "Can that be true? In Myr we all have names."
"Oh, he had a name once. They all do." The queen waved a hand dismissively. "Even septons born of noble blood go only by their given names once they have taken their vows. When one of them is elevated to High Septon, he puts aside that name as well. The Faith will tell you he no longer has any need of a man's name, for he has become the avatar of the gods."
"How do you distinguish one High Septon from another?"
"With difficulty. One has to say, 'the fat one," or 'the one before the fat one,' or 'the old one who died in his sleep.' You can always winkle out their birth names if you like, but they take umbrage if you use them. It reminds them that they were born ordinary men, and they do not like that."]
Generally, I would focus more on the world building or on the "relinquishing your name because of religion" theme, but what I want to point out, since it's Cersei's chapter, it's the "It reminds them that they were born ordinary men, and they do not like that". Neither Cersei likes to be reminded that she was born a woman, and the fact that there's men who don't like be reminded of being born in humble conditions would maybe string her heartstrings, if her head wasn't stuck up her entitled and privileged ass if she cared about other human beings.
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