#THIS IS WANT I WANT IN OTPS OK
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a-dauntless-daffodil · 6 months ago
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hey op how dare
you've threaded the needle of s1 chaggie i think
Charlie’s growth from answering only exactly what Vaggie says “You didn’t fail me!” “You do so much-”
to Charlie reactively choosing words that share the weight of the hotel after realizing Vaggie’s feeling a lot of pressure “We work as a team” “We’ll figure it out. Together”
then Charlie proactively picking a specific word, even when things are going good, for who she sees Vaggie as in general “My partner”
She is noticing something’s wrong and trying to say things that tell Vaggie it’s okay, but at the same time she’s saying these things in connection to hotel stuff and Vaggie having done something to help their hotel.
Which feeds right into Vaggie's “If I can’t help you what’s the point of me?” lack of self, warping protecting Charlie into protecting Charlie even from Vaggie's own pain and problems, even when Charlie is right there trying to reach out to her.
It doesn't matter that Charlie calls them a team or says they'll work it out together, all Vaggie sees is her trust building activity actually having good result in the end and how happy that made Charlie and everyone. She doesn't notice, or brushes off, how sad Charlie looked even with the hazbin's getting along, before Vaggie came back.
Vaggie is shown being more important to Charlie than the hotel but Vaggie doesn't see that.
Being introduced to her girlfriend's dad as "my partner" catches her by surprise, but this is after she helped Charlie invite Lucifer here in the first place, so it still fits.
Charlie asks her to come to heaven and instead of the word partner being used as a chance for Vaggie to say something outright, even just a flat 'I'm not comfortable with this' or 'I don't want to', for her it's a guilty reminder of Charlie needing her and of Charlie trusting her and how much she wants to earn that, so she caves in like always, finding an excuse to push her own stuff down and focus on Charlie and the hotel.
And Charlie's still only paying attention to what Vaggie actually says- like you say- no amount of uncomfortable body language or pathetic attempts at coming up with an excuse not to go to heaven registers with Charlie as long as Vaggie says “Fine” in the end.
Because if Vaggie says it then Vaggie must mean it, right?
Vaggie visibly cracking and barely holding herself together on the roof, saying "I’d- I’d like to be alone for a minute" as she pushes Charlie away, so Charlie stops trying to reach out and leaves her alone.
She hurts when Vaggie is sad and wants to help Vaggie, but the only way Vaggie ever says Charlie can help her is by, not helping her. Which doesn't work for either of them.
So Charlie tries, but her verbal efforts always come paired with actions that undercut her meaning with the words for Vaggie. And Vaggie keeps painting over her actual actions and reactions with words that hide how she’s really feeling from Charlie.
It takes Rosie saying straight out that words aren’t what matters most for Charlie to start really unpeeling her and Vaggie’s relationship. The idea that Vaggie might be saying more with her actions than with what she does or doesn't tell Charlie, and that she might feel she needs redeeming.
Once Charlie has that framework she quickly can shuck off the current layer of fear.
The Exorcist thing is an after thought, Charlie's anger and hurt is over the unspoken lie and the potentially devastating thought that if Vaggie could lie about one important thing to her, then maybe Charlie's one constant support, the woman who's been her closest family for the last few years, could be lying about loving Charlie too.
But that’s not what Vaggie’s actions say, and the moment Charlie can see that is the moment her anger and hurt go away.
We get to see Charlie try out a whole new way of connecting with the woman she loves, after a lot of trial and error and really painfully avoidable failure.
She uses actions instead of words when she meets Vaggie at the gate, in episode 7.
"I got you a souvenir from Cannibal Town!" while showing she was thinking of Vaggie when they were apart, before she had ANY idea if Vaggie would be coming back successful from her trip to Carmilla's.
“The wings are new. They look nice~” while casually touching Vaggie’s angel wings, just a normal, slightly flirty compliment like if Vaggie had shown up with a new haircut, like her wings change how she looks but don’t change her.
“Come on. Let’s go home” while holding Vaggie close, making it clear this is them going to their home together.
Charlie doesn't do what she did in ep 3 here. Aside from not wanting or letting Vaggie apologize, she throws out the whole old script, she doesn't answer anything Vaggie said or use words to say what she really means. She just shows Vaggie she isn't mad and was missing her. She's just calm and casual and interested in Vaggie's wings. She wants to be with Vaggie in their home.
Does she have any idea how self-destructive Vaggie's form of self-sacrificing love really was and still mostly is?
No.
The one time she glimpsed it, in ep 3, Vaggie's later words framed it as a short term situational problem "I’m sorry I got so crazy today-” and back then Charlie was still only paying attention to the words. Charlie knows Vaggie can have terrible thoughts on bad days, she doesn't yet get that those thoughts are driving most of Vaggie's actions every single day.
At the same time, thanks to her own talk with Carmilla, Vaggie's understanding of what it even means to protect the ones she loves has also shifted by the end of season 1.
Carmilla gave her pointers on how to not fight like the Exorcist she used to be. Exorcists never bother with self defense and it got one of them killed, so Carmilla's advice boiled down to don't be out for hate or revenge, focus on love and protecting the people you love.
Which for someone who judges and hates herself as much as Vaggie does, means putting her own self loathing on the back burner. She's very careful about protecting herself in her fight with Lute and it's probably what lets her come out of the fight alive. She fought for herself with everything she had then and there so she could be around for Charlie later on.
It's not the same as not hating herself, but it's a more realistic version of being someone's armor. It involves also looking after herself a little.
Season 1 gives Chaggie the tools they need to have a conversation in the future, or more like, the tools to get to the point where they both realize there IS a conversation they need and want to have.
The irony that the biggest thing Vaggie does for Charlie is just hold her hand during a phone call, that she hears Charlie call her "partner", she sees Charlie lose all hope and faith in herself the moment their relationship gets undercut, the irony that Vaggie can come find sad Charlie and see her hopeless and help her feel better but Charlie isn't allowed to do that for her even though she tries and she WANTS to, and Vaggie still can't see what Charlie has been telling her this whole time.
All Charlie needs from Vaggie is Vaggie. She doesn't want protection from Vaggie's secrets or bad days, she wants to see them too. And that's, ironically, the one thing in the entire season that Vaggie's been too scared to give her.
So far, anyway. Maybe that's already started to change.
OR they can spend the next 300 years exactly like this. it is SO delicious
charlie's low empathy/high sympathy desperation to help people without ever really understanding WHY they feel the way they do + vaggie's complex about needing to be useful to the people she loves or else she's worthless = charlie completely mistaking vaggie's self-sacrifical behavior for an expression of love and not the trauma response that it is, because all she's grasping are the literal words out of vaggie's mouth and not the alarming nuances of terrified self-hatred lurking underneath
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nobleriver · 5 months ago
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The Doctor and River Song + Being A Besotted Old Married Couple
I’m all yours, Sweetie.  Only River Song gets to call me that.
Bonus:
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butyouaremymess · 6 months ago
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And I know in my heart hurt people hurt people
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mirensiart · 9 days ago
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Me, while reading my own fic: he would not fucking say/do that
Me, while still reading my own fic: but I do what I want
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g3othermal3scapism · 1 year ago
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when the doctor was confronted about religion and beliefs and he said that out of everything hes seen, all the impossible places hes been and unthinkable creatures hes been witness to, of all the literal gods and demons and things of nightmares hes met, if there is one thing he believes in its rose tyler. yeah
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tsarjozinzbazin · 24 days ago
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Less a Rossier headcanon than historical research but the thing Crozier & and both of the Rosses had going on feels more & more like a throuple, the more I read about them. Among other things: Ross & Ann were the only people allowed to call Crozier Frank. Crozier had nicknames for Ross (John) & Ann (dear thot) too. He was Ross' best man at their wedding and lived with them for a while. The conception of the first two Ross kids is *almost* oddly coordinated to whenever Crozier was around and they didn't have any more until Ross returned from the Arctic in search of the Franklin expedition. Ross had promised Ann (or her father, depending on the source) that he'd never sail again but dropped everything immediately to captain one of the rescue ships when they started looking for the Franklin expedition. Ann apparently gave her blessing by stating that he should bring "our Frank" back. They both sent out letters to Crozier during the early search parties (which were never delivered, obviously).
They make me insane (and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Don't let me tell you about Ross & Crozier having matching hand tremors from their time in Antarctic. Or the ball on New Year's Eve in 1842, which Ross (possibly in drag due to jokingly being referred to as Ms. Ross in some sources) & Crozier opened with a dance. Or Franklin writing about Ross & Crozier that "the same soul animates each". Or Ross stating about Crozier's eulogy that "I was limited to 12 lines to speak of his services. It was hardly possible to say the thousandth part of what I should have like to have said of one I so truly loved". Or- *keels over*)
I have been pondering this for so long omg like yeah there's something sussy between them
in my head Fitzjames wants what Francis and Ross have meanwhile Francis still refers to Fitzjames as "other James" (Fitzjames is delulu but its okay, Francis will end up liking him. in time. long time. it takes extremely long for him to like him)
also this ask absolutely helped me and my bestie make the pirate au in our delusional minds so thank you ejjdhsid <33
anyways I had this in my head and had to draw it because like you have to see it too now
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i can't draw dresses or skirts ignore how it's drawn ty 🫶
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leopardmuffinxo · 1 year ago
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It's the horns. They drive me mad.
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citroncynique · 5 months ago
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"Marie Cardona was a colleague from my former place of employment, whom I'd had a thing for at the time. She did too. I think."
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(a self indulgent redraw of this panel from wotakoi hhhh marie/meursault i love you so much)
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idlesuperstar · 9 months ago
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My. Sounds like a love story.
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yeyayeya · 9 months ago
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I am legit sobbing over this images I AM NOT OKAY
When a ship takes over my life that even just seeing the actors together makes me feel so many things
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Context: This are the live actions actors for Quan Yizhen and Yin Yu. The one with the hat in the first pic and glasses in the second one is Yin Yu’s actor (Wang Jia Yu), while the one being carried in the first and the one taking the pic in the second one is Quan Yizhen’s (Liu Zi Rui/Ray Liu)
The second pic is from Liu Zi Rui’s weibo while the first one is (from what I am assuming) a fan account for Liu Zi Rui.
Tbh, at this point I just want Eternal Faith to release just for the QuanYin crumbs. I am starving over here and just need some QuanYin content in my life.
I would also love it if any fan artists decide to draw these as QuanYin. Especially the first pic
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utilitycaster · 1 year ago
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I don't begrudge anyone their campaign preferences, and I think there's plenty of valid reasons to like Campaign 3 the best and this is not directed at people who are genuinely having a great time with it, but it feels like virtually all the nostalgia and wishful thinking I see surrounding Campaign 3 is screaming "you guys want Campaign 2." You want more slow travel and downtime and interparty conversations and slow-burn romance? You wish their main focus was fighting governmental corruption? You want a party that only semi-settles down at the end and keeps adventuring and remains very close? You're frustrated by how everpresent and overarching the moon plot is? You miss when they were just fucking around in a city? I genuinely believe you want Campaign 2, or at best you love a specific ship or a character from Campaign 3 but aren't happy about basically anything else, and would vastly prefer the tone and events and plot of Campaign 2. And I don't really care if you watch Campaign 2, or if you think I'm being annoying here; I simply genuinely believe you'd be happier watching Campaign 2 than Campaign 3 and are so deep in a sunk cost fallacy well you can't see it.
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theviridianbunny · 14 days ago
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📍OWNER OF A LONELY HEART - MINI MOOD BOARD📍
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amoritasart · 11 months ago
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Why do you always draw Luz with the sun and moon earings? It's a very intentional choice.
Short answer: I have Sun and Moon earrings and I think they'd look cute on her!
Long answer: Ooo so I actually have several reasons! Soo there are several design elements that are present throughout the show to represent certain characters. As you probably know I’m a huge Huntceda shipper, and Luz’s main color scheme of purple is complementary to Hunter’s yellow… plus with Luz consistently having stars decorated in her clothes, I sort of associate them with the Sun and Moon! Opposites kind of ships. It reminds me of other ships I like, like Zutara (you rise with the Moon, I rise with the Sun! )and Reylo (light and dark).
I also really like using it because the Collector’s face is that of a Sun and Moon, which remind me of Mexican folk art and artesanias (:
And finally, I think it makes her a bit distinct! I don’t really have a super consistent style…so I wanted to draw her in a way that’s always a bit familiar… I think maybe giving her those signature earrings help her stand out! So if anyone who has seen my art sees a new drawing, hopefull it will recognizable as something I drew!
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deus-ex-mona · 9 months ago
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my brothers in crisis, what is h a p p e n i n g in the last stage mv
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mirensiart · 2 months ago
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Ok so, I know I said I'm a multishipper and that I don't really mind seeing my fave characters in different ships or seeing them with different dynamics (like platonic or romantic, etc)
But the ONE ship I just like, feel physical pain over the idea of them being separated is mòrag×brighid from xenoblade 2 cause like
Without going into detail over xc2's plot but like, brighid is a weapon and a sentient being (like fi from skyward sword) and she is soul bonded to her wielder, mòrag
If mòrag dies, brighid "dies" too, as in she goes back to her weapon state to sleep until a new master arrives
Anyway like brighid saying this???
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Like look at them I am clawing at the walls of my enclosure
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OOOUUUUUGGGGHHHHHHH MORAGHID MY BELOVED
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They're the only exception to the rule if they're separated I will DIE
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starphenie · 1 year ago
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once again posting about yvette's 5th dreamweaver
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i reaaaally think yvette shouldve gotten busted for sneaking that letter. for the plot. for the drama.
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