#THE CARTOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT THE LIVE ACTION

[fuji09]

I love how people complain how Tyler Hoechlin wasn't big enough when he played Superman. Like mf'ers... He had plenty of muscle ok? Like he looked good how he was, and most importantly he looked healthy, they didn't force him to bulk up to the point it was unsafe and bad for his health, like a lot of shows and movies do.

I mean look at those arms!!

He is still a big guy, tall and broad with muscle. He doesn't need to look like a body builder because he wasn't a body builder.

Tyler isn't a drawing, he isn't a cartoon character. Tyler is a real person who is not going to have the same dimensions as a comic book character.

Drawing Superman the way he has been was how they could portray his physical strength. In live action that isn't needed. We get depth and movement.

My favorite Superman/Clark Kent will always be Tyler Hoechlin. I'm glad they didn't beef him up more than they did, if they did at all.

Nerds will tie themselves into knots trying to justify their answers to "why is Superman ripped when he gets his power from the sun" but I have never seen anyone just admit "because a bodybuilder physique is modern visual shorthand for depicting strength despite the fact that professional weightlifters tend to be fat."

Like, he's a fictional alien man with magic powers. He looks like that because comic book artists in the 1930s wanted him to look """strong.""" There is no reason he can't be fat.

[asteroidfieldgame]

I see a lot of people arguing if a Stormlight adaptation should be live action or animated or anime and it’s clear to me that it should be live action except it turns into a cartoon whenever Lift’s on screen.

[gammagoop]

show is good. i like the show

[bixels]

I watched the original Muppets movies recently.

[mashounen2003]

I'm a bit surprised that Sonic acting differently on different media is still a topic of discussion. Like... This detail @mama-qwerty pointed out:

"The movie-verse is a separate universe from other media (I take all Sonic media as their own unique universes) and these versions aren't going to be exactly like the others."

This is already SEGA's official stance regarding the status of the Sonic series' multiverse and all the non-videogame branches of the franchise. It's been since their official Twitter account posted "Everything is canon" at least, even though everyone laughed at that tweet and thought it was just another pathetic attempt at modern humour from them.

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I suppose some fans' negative reaction to Sonic being "cringe" and actually quoting and referencing pop culture in the live-action movies is partly due to how Sonic was written in the videogames back in the 2010s, during the Pontac & Graff era. That was a time when SEGA saw a vocal minority of Sonic fans mocking their own "favourite" franchise on the Internet, spreading cheap memes and referring to the Sonic series as "cringe", and apparently decided they had to cater to them; this resulted in several Sonic videogames filled with low-effort comedy, easier to turn into memes, along with SEGA themselves using the Sonic series's brand Twitter account to basically mock their own flagship IP before the Internet even had the chance to do that first. A large portion of the fandom still doesn't remember those years fondly, and I'd not be surprised if they saw Sonic in the movies acting like that and it reminded them of wonderful gems such as "Baldy McNosehair" and "Green Hill is looking more like Sand Hill these days", even if expressing himself like this was actually in-character for Sonic.

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Anyway... Everything explained and pointed out by everyone else throughout this post could also apply to how I treat the old North-American canon from the Sonic SatAM cartoon and the Archie comic.

The Sonic from that continuity also lived a very different life compared to his counterparts in the videogames and the live-action movies: Robotnik had another modus operandi and started ruining everyone else's lives much earlier, which led to Sonic having to spend his childhood and early teenage years as a guerrilla fighter; Sonic also met Tails and a bunch of other friends when he was still 4 or 5 years old, which led to him already having some sort of family and having different priorities in mind. Besides, I tend to see the Sonic from the SatAM cartoon as a little bit younger than the Sonic from the videogames (only one year younger, though).

With all this, it's to be expected for this character's personality to change and evolve differently compared to its videogame version or any other version, and it'd not be surprising that this Sonic still has things to learn before becoming a character more similar to the more experienced, wiser, more emotionally intelligent Sonic we got in, say, the games of the Storybook Saga.

Something similar could be applied to Sonic in the British comic too. His life also goes down a separate path; the Robotnik of his universe was initially a good person and someone close to Sonic, which turns the entire rivalry between them into something deeply personal, which hurts even more; to top it off, Chaos energy in the British comic's universe works in a very different way that forces Sonic to avoid using it at all but also leads to him being this grumpy jerk who hates his life and keeps fighting for what's right but probably does it out of spite more than anything else.

I think one of the reasons Movie Sonic seems really cringe-y sometimes is not because he's doing or saying stuff that's unusual for Sonic's character in general, but that he's doing his normal shtick while referencing real world pop culture.

It's like when your friends from summer camp meet your school mates and suddenly all these very separate and distinct inside jokes start to intermingle. Sonic has always had his own world with its own culture that we've partaken in separate from our own world and its culture. So, yeah, it feels awkward for Movie Sonic to reference movies and television that we perceive as separate from his world.

"You're my Dad! You're not supposed to know what dabbing is!!"

I agree that it's a bit heavy handed and forced sometimes. (I still don't like the Winter Soldier line in 2; personal preference) But, Movie Sonic is not really behaving that different from other variations of Sonic. He's just referencing things I think many of us feel he shouldn't know about it XD

[owlphibiaisthebest15]

Some of my favorite cartoon characters at the movie theaters.

[t00thpasteface]

the every-season squad!!

[prideprejudce]

one thing I will say is that I like the costumes and how they are sourced faithfully off the cartoons costumes

i mean let’s just remember where we started

to how its going now

[ireallywishiknew]

It's not that people forget it's because it's just an amazing set-up. A retelling is a retelling. If everything stuck to the script all we would get is disney cartoons and live actions on repeat forever.

It's okay for stories to evolve through time. If people want it to be a love story, let them enjoy it, god damn

Unpopular opinion maybe?

If people can make half a dozen stories changing and romanticising the tale of Hades and Persephone, people should be able to do the same for Zeus and Ganymede.

[hjbender]

“Good news! That cartoon show you loved as a kid is set to become the latest live-action movie!”

Kitten, I’ll be honest, Daddy’s about to start killing people.

[zukaiaz-x]

For the longest time I didn't know who Danny phantom was.

In my head he was just Danny devito but edited all ghostly

This is what I imagined

[scammydoesstuff]

I'll say it as many times as you want, BJ! 💚

Finally done! Drawing with an iPad is such a different, weird experience for me, but I like how this turned out. Actually got the idea for it while trying to sketch a bit in the theater before seeing Beetlejuice Beetlejuice the second time. Glad to finally have it finished.

[doomed2repeat]

Colin’s curl in this scene. PLEASE Shonda, Jess, Bridgerton hair team. Contact that curl’s agent and lock it down for S4, the Colin girlies NEED this.

[georgeromeros]

Me reading the words "live-action remake" in any context:

[spookberry]

I love this dynamic for them So Much!!

but also they should smooch

[hailsatanacab]

fuck it I'm interested