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fijiwater33 · 8 months ago
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I feel like there’s a lot of fans that don’t appreciate the good stuff that Endo has done with Yor. Do I want more Yor with Garden? Yes! But I highly disagree with the people who say Endo doesn’t do anything significant with Yor or that Endo is sexist.
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nojamnojelly · 19 days ago
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It's starting to make a lot of sense how Yor became such close friends with Melinda
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kisaxiii · 10 months ago
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Spy x family is so good
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azyrayringee · 4 months ago
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DO IT FOR WORLD PEACE YOR!
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xxscarletxrosexx · 1 year ago
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A Linguistic Analysis of the Spelling Names "Ania" and "Anya" (and the chapter and languages of Ostania)
This includes spoilers from Short Mission 11, or Chapter 90.1
It's not a secret that Anya's (Ania) name change was officialized along with Loid (Lloyd) and Yor (Yoru/Yolanda) in July 2019. I do recall that our loveable Forger family had different spellings in the early manga releases. Many believed that it was Endo-san's way to cover up the spelling mistake, but I believe that, whether or not the origin and/or intention was a mistake, it paved a beautiful opportunity for a deep dive into linguistics and character analysis on Anya Forger.
First, I'd like to address my thoughts on "ANIA" as the spelling. Here are a few of my impressions on this:
"ANIA" could be perceived as her original spelling because wherever she came from used this spelling.
"ANIA" could just be her limitation as a child when it came to spelling her name.
"ANIA" could be an acronym from her lab that probably served the purpose of her existence.
"ANIA" could be the name of her mother/creator. And she was subjected to share the same name of her creator for "sourcing" purposes.
"ANIA" when applied to numerology number, reinforced her code name which is 007 (which is super meta to me, but probably is a coincidence because we all know 007 was Endo's way of referencing James Bond). S/O to @momentocollector for sharing this!
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Second, I'd like to address "ANIA" as an identity for our precious baby girl.
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"Ania" is the chosen spelling. This could possibly mean that this is her real name and how it should be spelled (You, as the owner of your name have every right to decide what your name should be, spelled, or pronounced after all).
"Ania" could possibly be an influence of either her mother-tongue language's spelling.
"Ania" could possibly be due to her limitation of spelling. (I don't think she is aware of how her name should be spelled.)
Recall that Yor carved out Anya's name as "Ania" and didn't question it. This could be a reflection of Yor's own lack of familiarity of Ostanian orthography since she is academically limited, and she would have listened to how Anya would have wanted her name to be spelled. Furthermore, this tells me that Yor's absence of questioning reflects that she accepts her daughter no matter who she is, be it "Ania" or "Anya".
Third, I'd like to address "ANYA" as her name's spelling.
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"A-N-Y-A" is the spelling that her papa gave her, which tells her that she can now be on the same playing field as her parents. Their names and titles are all "masks" in this masquerade that they call "Forger". So, to little Anya, it means that she finally belongs with someone. Anya has essentially found "her home".
We also know that Franky did do a lot of paperwork and found that "Anya" is the spelling that was written down on her adoption papers. This reinforces that "Anya" is the standard Ostanian orthography of her name.
I perceive Loid as a person replicating the "average Ostanian" (since this is a deep cover mission after all), so to also tell her that her name is spelled a certain way reinforces that she has a new identity as an "Ostanian child". (I find this quite ironically poetic because it's a "fake man" giving a "fake name" to his "fake daughter").
I also see that when Anya's eyes light up, it could also mean that this new identity in her spelling change meant she was finally liberated from her days as a lab experiment and living in an orphanage.
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Fourth, I'd like to address spelling etymology.
Since I'm not a Japanese linguist expert, I found @connoisseursdecomfort post to be quite educational when it came to Japanese spelling.
What we learn from the above post is that "Ania" is an acceptable name spelling in "Old Japanese". But as time progressed, the spelling changed to "Anya" which is the modern-day spelling of this name (this may tie into Anya's character lore).
We can track "i" becomes "y" in the evolution of the alphabet from Phoenician (c. 1000 BC) to Archaeic Greek (c. 750 BC). S/O to @rachellysebrook for this link. (Again, what this reinforces is Anya's background with an unidentified mother country/mother tongue language).
Another thing is that Yor Forger did not react to the spelling of "Ania". It could possibly be that she recognized Anya's limitation, given that her daughter already had poor scores since her admission.
We also learned that Yor, a real Ostanian, seems to be limited with Ostanian orthography which is most likely due to her dropping out of school to take care of Yuri (fake Ostanian /j). From her interaction with Anya, off-screen, it appears that Yor seems indifferent to spelling standards of names (Which is nice! She is subtly against society's norm and I love her for that). Had she been aware of the spelling, she would have been the one to ask instead of Loid. (But again, it must be Loid because it's poetic and has a much more meaningful interaction between "Loid" and "Anya").
Fifth, I'd like to address the name's (possible) impact on character purpose in the story.
"Anya" means mother in Hungarian (S/O to @httplovecraft1890. This inspired my thoughts on "Ania" as a name in the lab). Could this possibly be an inspiration or coincidence? It could be a stretch, but perhaps Anya's purpose in the lab is that she's a "mother weapon" for war.
"Ania" means "gracious" and "merciful" according to Google. Which makes me think that the lab scientists went with this name because it would represent her purpose as a weapon of war. Perhaps Ania becomes the "truth serum" and could be seen as the "angel of death" because she knows the war captor's thoughts and inevitably they are executed (a possible headcanon).
Sixth, I'd like to discuss the factors of the mysterious "unidentified language".
Anya did use "oui" in the anime when Loid had adopted her. This automatically made me think her possible origins could be French, but it could also take another step back in the language family: Romance. What makes this work is that we treat "Classical Language" as a dead language based on what we read/saw in the manga/anime like Latin. Anya has an innate potential to be bi-/multilingual.
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Bonus: Seventh, I'd like to talk about the languages in this anime (This is a bit of a ramble but since we're talking about linguistics, I thought why not)...
Based on the dialogues spoken in the anime, we can confirm that English exclamatory (Oh my God, Goddammit, Shit, Wow, Elegant, etc.) and the Japanese language are the main components of the Ostanian language. This is reinforced by many characters who have used English expressions (Loid, Yuri, Yor, Anya, Damian, Henderson, etc.)
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What does bug me is whether or not "oui", a French exclamatory, should be categorized as part of the Ostanian language or if that should be categorized for Anya's hidden lore. The reason is that when Loid/Twilight heard Anya say "oui" in front of him, he did not question it. (Perhaps he was too tired to process this, or he excused it as something Anya could have seen on TV and is merely mimicking. I really don't think Twilight would be the type to excuse this realization had he not had the aforementioned state of mind). I'm leaning more towards the latter as this is from Anya's mother tongue language.
In conclusion (or tldr;): "Ania" may be her real name, but "Anya" is her new identity as part of the Forgers.
If you read everything, thank you for your time! The linguist in me is so happy that Endo-san is steeping his foot into linguistic territory. As short as this chapter was, it said A LOT to me linguistically and provided more details to the scraps of lore that we know of Anya but it also tells us a bit more about Yor, Loid/Twilight, and Ostania.
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aurorarose2112 · 1 year ago
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Spy x Family Manga Ch86 Spoilers
He became her strength
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But she became his weakness
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mikasenpaidesu · 3 months ago
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*chapter 106 spoiler warning*
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alright, this dinner was nothing and everything at the same time… why is melinda so on edge tho? she looks like she felt like throwing up
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nekoro-san · 1 year ago
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their height difference it’s too cute 😭
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mistyyhaze · 1 year ago
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Also I think Anya WILL beat Damian in the final exams so again it reiterates that he’ll always be “second” and cue character arc for either of the two
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marsdani · 2 years ago
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We definitely have to see Loid's reaction in chapter 76 because Anya getting a Stella and her officially being friends with Damian deserves all the rewards and awards!
In short, Anya is once again proven to be the most important part of Operation Strix.
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yuzukahachimir · 2 years ago
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SxF CHAP 76 SPOILER ALERT
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This made me laugh so much.
Becky and the rest of clasmates have to be so used of Anya and Damian bickering and fight with each other than they just went to class and left them with their discussion.
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fijiwater33 · 4 months ago
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If Becky doesn’t start learning to throw more hands she’s going to end up forever single while Yor got Loid to propose for real after giving him a good uppercut, Damian takes Anya to every peanut specialty store after beating him in wrestling, and Henry gets remarried to Martha as she princess carries him
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kira-ani-mcgrath · 1 year ago
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Lol @ Loid's/Twilight's soul leaving his body in the last panel of Ch 93. Parenting do be like that sometimes.
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Spy x family is very very good because there's a bit where a far right terrorist group says that they want to start a war and a main character responds by saying to them "have any of you ever killed anyone before? Have you ever been killed before? Have you ever had a limb torn off by an artillery shell? Have you ever heard the sound of bones shattering? Have you ever smelled the reek of rotting flesh? Have you ever found the crushed bodies of your parents and siblings in a pile of rubble that used to be your home? Have you ever discovered a blown-off piece of your lover stuck to a wall? Have you ever been so hungry that you tried to eat tree bark? Or stewed a pot of human flesh? Have you ever convinced yourself that your enemy was subhuman so you could...slaughter them like animals? Have you ever been so haunted by shame and regret afterwards that you cried until you vomited? Have you ever had friends who did the same, and then took their own lives? Did you learn nothing about war at your university?!"
and that's the same volume where they adopt a dog that can see into the future
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peanutseagle · 5 months ago
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"Just relax and let go"
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xxscarletxrosexx · 1 year ago
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"Ania" is the closest to an identity reveal.
Chapter 90.1 Spoilers!
I know that this analysis is a stretch, but hear me out.
Based on my post, A Linguistic Analysis of the Spelling Names "Ania" and "Anya", I think this is the closest thing to how the Forgers would respond to anyone having an identity reveal.
When Loid asks Anya if her name is spelled, "A-N-Y-A", Anya says okay. She doesn't question it and accepts that name because her papa gave it to her. This is poetic because a fake man gives a fake name to his fake daughter.
So, Loid gives her a "mask" to be part of the fake family--the Forgers. In a way, he reaffirms her identity because that's how her name is spelled on official documents. So what you are on paper, you should stick to be.
Meanwhile, Yor carves out Anya's name as "ANIA". She doesn't seem to question the spelling, whether or not she is academically limited, she accepts the name "ANIA" on the plaque. She only changes it to "ANYA" when Loid most likely tells her off-screen. (The reason I believe that it's Yor who fixes it is because the penmanship is the same. The only difference is that "ANIA" has some messy lines when she carved her name).
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So what this tells me is that Loid will avoid any possible identity reveal and re-affirm what is on paper. Yor would most likely embrace her family if they were revealed. Ania, would probably be relieved and happy.
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