#Sonic 06 theory

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Mephiles the Mind, Iblis the Heart

Basically a breakdown of how I interpreted 06 but also a foundation I use for all my AUs.

Mephiles is highly intelligent and apathetic while Iblis relies on emotion and is more like a wild animal. Mephiles does not have full access to Solaris' time powers, but Iblis does. However, Iblis does not have the mental capacity to actually use them.

Things that are less “interpretive” and more “theory”:

This is why Iblis needed a powerful emotion to be released

In the original timeline, the one which led to Silver’s future, it was Elise’s death which released Iblis. Because the seal was broken improperly, Mephiles could not recombine with Iblis. Therefore, he would need to look for a different way, but he can’t with Sonic being there and being an obstacle (not while Mephiles is still weak). Hence why he brought in Silver—a powerful hedgehog determined to save his future no matter the cost—who is also a completely new factor to change the timeline. Silver would keep Sonic busy while Mephiles figured out how to properly release Iblis… Since letting her die didn’t work last time. When Silver began figuring out the charade, Mephiles didn’t care enough to try hard with his manipulations, especially if it meant Silver would help keep Elise alive. However, once Mephiles realized the way to release Iblis was via an extreme emotion from Elise well… how convenient that the Princess grew attached to a certain blue hedgehog. Turns out killing Sonic really was the key all along. And if you want something done right… you gotta do it yourself.

Essentially (to explain Mephiles’ weird planning in canon), Mephiles did not know the seal was reliant on Elise’s emotions in the beginning, so he sends Silver to distract Sonic while he figures out how to actually free his other half. How ironic that killing Sonic is indeed what needs to happen. Mephiles basically has a “wait, it’s actually that simple?” moment

The strong emotion can be anything—grief, anger, joy, fear—it just has to be strong. Like a “consuming your mind” kind of strong.

The original explosion which killed Elise was too sudden for any strong emotion to pop up. (Even in her last moments, she had faith Sonic would save her.)

Mephiles is the mind while Iblis is the heart. Only once combined does Mephiles—or Solaris now—actually feel feelings. However, Solaris is still adjusting after the disoriented episode of being literally split in two and so acts completely on his anger toward mortals for taking advantage of him.

At the end of 06, Solaris isn’t destroyed but rather is scattered/subdued, and everyone will already be long gone by the time Solaris’ pieces are reunited. Like “after Dark Gaia and Light Gaia have restarted the planet” kind of long time. They are gods after all. Time is different for them.

The rest of this is sparked from my “Trinity Gods” fanon. Aka, Gaia, the Master Emerald, and Solaris are the three gods who created Earth, as well as any planets prior to Earth. The Master Emerald is also called “Mother Chaos”.

While Gaia slumbers, Mother Chaos and Solaris watch over the planet to protect it. During Earth’s creation, Mother Chaos took on a physical form (ie. The Master Emerald) to live on Earth amongst its creatures. Curious about all Mother Chaos learned whilst living amongst mortals, Solaris decided to also take on a physical form and live amongst them. However, this meant limiting his ability to see the future—or rather which future would come true. Thus, Solaris did not see what the humans planned on doing with him until it was too late.

Gaia and Mother Chaos are A-Okay with Solaris destroying the planet. I mean, it wouldn’t be the first time one of them has, after all. It’d be a bummer for it to end so soon, but they can just make another one. It’s because of this that they don’t interfere with Solaris’ plot… as well as the fact that their creations had hurt their friend.

It’s also this familiarity that means the Chaos Emeralds will so easily obey Mephiles. Doesn’t matter who posses them or if they’re on the other side of the planet, if the gods call, they answer.

[marrowthefairy]

hey guys

WHY DOES BLAZE HAVE A HANGED PORTRAIT OF BIG THE CAT???? DIRECTLY ABOVE HER HEAD?

[sminny-wew]

(Spoilers for IDW Sonic #76)

Lemme tell you guys what makes Silver's characterization on this page so deliciously juicy to me. It's a bit of a doozy to explain, but bear with me

In Sonic 06, you start out with Sonic's story mode as the default. So if you were playing the game for the first time and had no idea who Silver was, you would initially believe he's an antagonist, based on how focused and single-minded he is on killing Sonic (to the point of not noticing Sonic is trying to rescue someone). But as you get further into the game, you unlock Shadow's and Silver's story modes as well, and you learn why Silver initially wants to kill Sonic.

In Silver's story, it's revealed that he comes from a post-apocalyptic future ravaged by Iblis's flames. Silver, being naive and trusting, is told by Mephiles that if he wants to bring hope and peace to his world, all he has to do is kill the one person who caused this devastation in the first place, the "Iblis Trigger": Sonic. (Obviously Mephiles is lying to get Silver to do his dirty work for him.) But as Silver spends more time in the past, he befriends people like Amy, who lead him to question his goal. This in turn leads to one of the overarching themes of Silver's campaign:

"...is that really the right thing to do?"

Now I'm not here to debate this moral dilemma, at the end of the day the target demographic of this game and the Sonic franchise as a whole is young boys, so obviously the story won't get too deep into a topic like that. But I have a reason for bringing this up.

Ultimately, after learning who the real Iblis Trigger is and thinking things over, Silver decides to help Sonic rescue Elise to prevent her from dying in a crash and thus releasing Iblis prematurely. (This is also why Mephiles says "Screw it" and just kills Sonic himself in the end.) But Elise is still a mortal, so at some point in the 200 years between Sonic's time and Silver's, she still dies and her death still unleashes Iblis upon the world. Returning to a future that's still in ruins, Silver tries to seal Iblis within himself, only for Blaze to take his place; Iblis accepts her as a host due to her pyrokinesis, and her body disintegrates as her spirit vanishes into the sky, parting the clouds and returning light to a once bleak world. Silver finally gets to see the clear skies and bright sunshine of the past in his own era, but at the cost of having to reckon with the loss of his closest friend.

So what does any of this have to do with Silver wanting to help Whisper kill Mimic?

In the final story of 06, after Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver defeat Solaris, Sonic and Elise are taken back in time to when Solaris was just a little flame, and Elise makes the difficult decision to blow the flame out in order to save everyone the grief it will cause. By destroying Solaris in the past, the events of Sonic 06 are erased from the timeline.

Elise never meets Sonic because he never has to rescue her from Eggman.

Eggman has no motive to invade Soleanna because there's no longer any so-called "Flames of Disaster" to entice him.

And because there's no Mephiles to send him back in time to kill an Iblis Trigger, all of Silver's character development is undone.

Now, the first time he's technically met Sonic and co. was in Sonic Rivals, where he travels back in time to track down Eggman Nega and stop him from turning the planet and everyone who lives on it into cards.

So if Silver seems a little too eager to kill Mimic as revenge...I believe that it's because he's technically never had to confront the idea of taking a life before. This Silver, the one who's never encountered Solaris and only just now got to see Soleanna for the first time on his little world tour with Blaze, never had to contend with what killing means, or the consequences that come with it, or how traumatic the act of killing can be.

Would this be retreading old ground for Silver? Kinda, yeah, but given the context of both 06 and the Duo thing, I honestly don't think it's a bad idea for him to go through this dilemma again

And for me personally, no matter how things go, it's gonna be so great to watch it all play out

[chipistrate]

An assortment of Sonic doodles while I still try n figure out how to draw these creatures (also as an apology for not posting in like. forever lmao)

Side note but I need Surge and Shadow to fight so badly. Like I NEED them to fight listen to me boy (gender neutral)

[shirubae]

WHY was Blaze in Sonic 06?

In my analysis of Sonic 06 I promised not to touch lore or canon. But this single question has plagued me for years, and I can't run from it any longer: why was Blaze in the future with Silver in Sonic 06? It literally keeps me up at night. It is a core moment in her identity, yet it remains one of the biggest unaddressed mysteries in the series.

To answer this question, we must also answer: who is Blaze? She's a princess from another world. Easy, right?

Buckle up. Forget everything you know. This is a long one.

Blaze's Debut

Let's step back in time. The year is 2005.

Blaze debuted in Sonic Rush, which released on November 15, 2005. She was created by the game's writer and director, Akinori Nishiyama, as a contrasting character to Sonic. It introduced Blaze as a cat from another world who is the guardian of the Sol Emeralds.

Fun fact: Blaze being a princess was originally a twist! Nothing in Sonic Rush ever indicates that Blaze is a princess - no dialogue, no supplementary material - until the very end of Extra Story where she mentions her duties as a princess while she heads home.

How crazy is that? When you hear about Blaze nowadays, you're like "oh duh the princess" but she was not always known as such! More importantly, this is the first example of Blaze's identity being a mystery.

Blaze Returns

Blaze's next appearance was in Sonic 06, which released on November 14, 2006, exactly one year later. This game depicted Blaze as the curt companion of Silver, fighting Iblis in a destroyed future of Sonic's world. Huh? Yes. The game never mentions her alternate dimension nor the Sol Emeralds. Blaze is Silver's well-dressed friend now. You think that's confusing today? Try being a kid who just got to know her in Sonic Rush a year prior.

Because of how the game treats Blaze, some fans assumed that Sonic 06 was a reboot of the series, or that it was at least retconning Blaze's backstory into her being a denizen of the future alongside Silver. There are zero official sources to support this rumor, but it gained traction anyway, and people started citing it as gospel. It's wrong.

Blaze's official Sonic 06 backstory can be found in other sources, like the official websites and the Japanese manual. They are pretty consistent with Rush: she's from another dimension and guards the Sol Emeralds (despite their total absence in this game). None of them say she was born in the future.

The English website calls her a "queen". Close enough, it indicates that Blaze is still royalty in this game.

However, there's also some odd details, like her wearing a cape, so it may come from an early draft of Sonic 06's plot and not be entirely accurate. Maybe they were planning on her royalty being more important than it ended up (I theorize that it's why she could absorb Iblis where Silver failed).

Let's touch on the princess thing. The first game to clearly establish Blaze as a princess was Sonic Rush Adventure, which released another year later on September 14, 2007. In this game, her being a princess is brought up a lot because it is a pivotal fact in her character arc.

Around the same time, fans noticed that Blaze doesn't seem to recognize Sonic at all in Sonic 06. In their only scene together in Kingdom Valley, she doesn't say a word. If this is the same Blaze from Rush, why doesn't she know him? (Mind you, Sonic doesn't acknowledge her either). This discrepancy only fuels the "future Blaze" rumor, and it's still never been properly explained. Despite being discussed again and again, we haven't had a clear answer. So, let's at least go over the answers that we have received.

Takashi Iizuka at Sonic Boom

Takashi Iizuka is the current (2024) head of Sonic Team. He's worked on many games in the series, though notably not Sonic 06 nor Rush. Still, during the Q&A panel at the live event Sonic Boom 2012, one of the many fan-submitted questions requested he clarify some lore regarding Silver and Blaze.

Here's a transcript, since the crowd in the video is pretty loud:

Speaker: "Iizuka-san, can you please clear up the story of Silver, Blaze, and Eggman Nega? Are they from an alternate dimension, or the future? Not to mention, in Sonic Rush, Sonic Rivals, and Sonic 2006, they all know each other, but in Sonic Colors, they've never met?"

Takashi Iizuka (via translator): "So, everyone probably already knows this... but Silver and Eggman Nega are from the future, and Blaze is from an alternate dimension. That's the official story. But in 2006, basically what happened was everyone kind of had like, amnesia. That's how that kind of played out."

The guy was put on the spot to answer a big question regarding two characters from games that he didn't even work on, plus the translation barrier! He handled it well, all things considered. This at least debunked the "future Blaze" rumor, but it didn't answer why she was in the future in the first place. Let's check another source...

Shiro Maekawa on Twitter

Shiro Maekawa is a former Sonic game writer who worked on the Shadow and Silver Episodes for Sonic 06 (but not Rush). This means he wrote for Blaze; naturally, some curious fans have reached out to him with questions. His responses may give us some insights into what was intended with her in 06.

First of all, Maekawa confirmed that he intended to connect Rush to 06. He's said this in multiple tweets. What exactly he means isn't totally clear.

A fan once made a neat tumblr post delving into this connection; I don't totally agree with everything said, especially the "future Blaze" stuff, but it's definitely a valuable perspective (unfortunately the author has deleted their blog after harassment... good job guys).

He also says that he intended for the place that Blaze gets sent to in Silver Episode to be her alternate dimension. That makes sense; just sending her home! But he admits that his ideas are not official, so it's up to Sonic Team to decide.

Furthermore, Maekawa supports the theory that Iblis remains sealed within Blaze's soul to this day. Fans have taken it a step further by theorizing that the reason Blaze can become Burning Blaze is because of her connection to Iblis - this makes sense, given the fiery aura and the fact that Blaze briefly goes Burning in the cutscene when she absorbs it.

If that theory is true, and she goes Burning in Rush, then it would force 06 to be a prequel to Rush.

Since it's confirmed Blaze isn't from the future in 06, she must have gotten sent there somehow - maybe by the Sol Emeralds? They do teleport her on their own in Rush. That would mean Blaze hasn't met Sonic yet, so she has nothing to say to him. Then in the ending, she forgets everything and goes home, later meeting Sonic for real in Rush. Boom, easy! For a long time, this placement in the timeline seemed fair.

There was a tiny hole: an unused audio file of Blaze dialogue in 06.

Blaze says: "Sonic... the Iblis Trigger... a blue hedgehog... can it be true?", expressing familiarity with the blue blur. So she did know who he was...? Then why did she not say anything? Well, it's unused so it shouldn't count. But the fact that it's recorded at all means it got far enough into the script to be voiced...

On the other hand, this game also has the "Book of Darkness" flub and the "head to Wave Ocean" blooper, so maybe its audio files aren't to be trusted. Problem solved?

No. Not until a certain someone speaks...

Ian Flynn on Bumblekast

Ian Flynn went from writing the Archie Sonic comics, to the IDW comics, and now the games. He's been working on Sonic properties for a very long time, and is even consulted as part of the mythical "Sonic lore team" at Sega-Sammy. Those folks work on piecing together the canon, including the chaos of 06's timeline placement (imagine being paid to write stuff like this lmao).

This means he receives lore knowledge from on high, from the top dogs at Sonic Team. At the moment it's fairly secretive, but on Ian's Q&A podcast, the Bumblekast, he often lets fans in on tidbits.

What Ian has shared so far supports a lot of theories discussed with Maekawa. He has entirely confirmed that Blaze went Burning Blaze as she absorbed Iblis and went home, and has dubiously confirmed that she still has Iblis in her soul (he doubts it will ever be brought up again).

But the prophet has spoken: Sonic 06 is officially set after Rush in the timeline. Say what you will about Ian's writing or understanding of the characters; like it or not, he's received this info from Sonic Team. So, our timeline theory is debunked.

Ian even acknowledges that there are plot holes with this timeline placement, like why Blaze and Sonic ignored each other in Kingdom Valley, and why she didn't think to find her old friends for help. But he has no say over it. He'll just have to find a way to write around it, I guess.

He also acknowledges that Blaze's presence in the future and partnership with Silver are still completely unexplained, and he hopes to eventually touch on it... But he also states that there is an official reason why Blaze was in Silver's future. I'll write his quote here for reference:

Ian Flynn: "Here's the thing: working on something else, I actually did get a straight answer, and it was frustratingly simple. And it's like, 'that works, okay.' No, I can't get into it, that's all private work stuff but maybe it'll come to light, eventually. But there is an answer, and it works, and I kinda feel dumb for not thinking of it."

So it's currently classified. Where does that leave us? "That greedy Ian is selfishly sitting upon a hoard of gold, hiding his secrets from us!" "There must be a secret scroll sitting in the depths of Sonic Team HQ, emblazoned with the truth!" "Ian is a filthy American, he has no idea what he's talking about!"

Well, we can guess to our heart's content. There are a few theories:

Maybe the will of the Sol Emeralds sent Blaze to help Silver. The strings of fate pulled her so she could help guide him and eventually absorb Iblis. This one is the most sentimental, so I like it...

Maybe Blaze got caught time-traveling during a fight with Eggman Nega, and was flung into the future. This would explain why Ian found it "frustratingly simple" (he hates Eggman Nega lol).

Maybe at the end of Rush, Blaze couldn't get back home from the Exception zone; instead, she ended up lost in Silver's future due to space-time shenanigans. Nothing in her ending truly confirms that she ever made it back home. Pretty simple.

These still don't explain why she and Sonic didn't recognize each other, but we have to just let Ian deal with that one lol.

Conclusion

Our best course of action is to wait. In many of the clips I've linked, Ian regularly expresses interest in addressing Blaze's mysteries in an issue of IDW comics or a TailsTube episode. We also know that Evan Stanley, a fellow comic artist-turned-writer, is a big fan of Blaze and Silver (check out her "Ghosts of the Future" fan-comic). Our cries for the truth do not fall on deaf ears.

Ultimately, Sega-Sammy will choose whatever is most profitable. They are a business operating in capitalism. If revisiting Silver and Blaze's backstory is somehow a good business decision, they will allow it. If it's not... they won't.

The "Fearless: Year of Shadow" campaign has given me hope. Its success is hopefully proving to Sega-Sammy that fans do care about characters besides the main Team Sonic, and that mysteries and lore of the past can be addressed in games like Sonic X Shadow Generations. Whether it results in more leniency with using the extended cast in future games, such as Blaze and Silver, remains to be seen. Maybe the two need to be teased in a movie before they can get more attention lol. But I have hope that one day, my patience will have paid off, and I can update this article with the official truth of the matter.

Patience and hope: that's what Blaze offered Silver in Sonic 06. She supported him through his recklessness, stabilized him, and reminded him of what he was fighting for. But she also loved his passion, his drive for peace, and value of the truth. She loved how "naive" he was in the face of his seemingly impossible mission.

We fans are all a little naive. So for now, let's just wait and see.

[silver-the-hedgeblog]

Possible Silver/Echidna/Ancient connections

In Sonic Chronicles The Dark Brotherhood there is another tribe of echidnas called the Nocturnus Clan. The Nocturnus Clan was incredibly technologically advanced and nearly conquered the world thousands of years ago before they were trapped in another dimension with powerful alien races by an entity called the Argus.

This game and the stuff in it is considered non-canon now due to legal issues that we are definitely not here to talk about but it was canon when it came out and different echidna tribes are referenced in Sonic Frontiers. The ancient portal technology in that game is also similar to the gear themed technology used by the Nocturnus Clan. So there's hope of Nocturnus or a rewritten version of them still being canon. Silver has many similarities to the Nocturnus clan and their creations.

Silver is visually similar to Imperator Ix, the leader of the Nocturnus Clan (Especially the cuffs which are similar to Silver's)

The patterns on Silver's gloves and cuffs are also similar to the ones in Nocturne and the Cyberspace Portals in Sonic Frontiers.

The convex patterns on Silver's cuffs can be found throughout Nocturne.

Silver's front quills have a similar structure to the head crests of the Gizoids created by the Nocturnus Clan.

The big quills on the back of Silver's head are similar to the tentacles that Chaos and The Ancients have on the back of their heads.

Silver's big quills seem to have blood vessels? He puts bandages on them in Sonic Channel artwork and gets blood stains on them in IDW. Maybe they are tentacles?

Sonic Team has foreshadowed connections with visual similarities before. In Shadow The Hedgehog before you find out that Shadow is part Black Arms you can see throughout the game that the Black Arms have red patterns like Shadow and in Sonic Unleashed before you find out that the Werehog is a portion of Dark Gaia you can see that Dark Gaia monsters have the same stretchy arms and attack patterns as the Werehog.

One of the alien races trapped in Twilight Cage with the Nocturnus Clan in Sonic Chronicles called the Voxai has psychic powers like Silver. They have the psychic ability to fly like Silver and control minds.

One of the leaders of the Voxai named Leucosia has the same colors as Silver's powers and patterns similar to Silver's PK Marks.

The only named place in Silver's (good) future that we've seen is Onyx Island in Sonic Rivals. Onyx Island is actually the future version of Angel Island which is the home of the Knuckles Clan, The Master Emerald and Sky Sanctuary. Sky Sanctuary also has advanced ancient technology and patterns similar to the ones on Silver's gear.

We don't know how connected to Onyx Island Silver is but it is the first place we see him after the reset in 06.

This could just be because of his powers but Silver is very upper body oriented. He never kicks like Sonic and Shadow do. Whenever Silver does get physical he always punches things which makes his fighting style more similar to Knuckles and the echidnas than his fellow hedgehogs.

Cyber Sonic's eyes are similar to the eyes Silver has in concept art.

[silverthehedgehogexplained]

Even though I just explained Silver’s entire backstory and how he's still the same character from 06 I need to note ESP Silver from Sonic Runners. In Sonic Speed Simulator he is heavily implied to be the Silver from 06 and is presented as a separate character.

Sonic Speed Simulator is non-canon but it is canon compliant. They are not allowed to use Infinite because Sega considers him to be dead yet ESP Silver with all indications that he’s separate from regular Silver is there. So just know that there is a non-0% chance that Silver from Sonic 06 and Silver from Sonic Rivals are in fact different characters.

[trashcreatyre]

I wish we would stop taking fandom wiki sites as gospel bc they get somethings wrong a lot (and do heavy speculation and jump to conclusions) That being said the etymology section is kinda neat

[mephistowo]

Sonic 06 rambling about Mephiles and the confusing ass timelines involving Sonic, Shadow and Silver

I'm labeling silvers timeline, where he originates from, as apocalypse 1 or A1 for short. The straightshot timeline that we watch triple S in I'll call TS2.

Okay so I got an idea, I need to put down. With all the strings that are laid out in 06, with confusing time shenanigans and paradoxes. I fully believe Shadow was framed by Mephiles in timeline A1. Because of a few questions that I thought of, where the hell is Sonic? Why would Shadow be locked away? Mephiles is an unreliable narrator, you're really gonna believe it's just because "oh you're a powerful weapon, yeet!"? I sense bullshit, people weren't scared of Shadow, Mephiles was scared of Shadow, so he had to set shit up in A1 to fear monger the public.

What's the one thing that always goes down with new male hedgehog characters, mistaken identity. Sonic mistaken for Shadow, Shadow being mistaken for Sonic, Silver being mistaken for Sonic. Silver even thought Shadow was Mephiles.

So what I'm laying down is when Iblis is released after Elise dies, during the beginning stages of A1, Mephiles in the shape of Shadow killed Sonic, the one person who has the ability to take down gods. G.U.N or whoever that was there to witness the event saw "Shadow" doing insane shit and Shadow's yoinked out of the game, the last threat, A1 is now set in stone. Game's set for Silver and Blaze to struggle in A1 and eventually be manipulated and enter TS2 (timeline Mephiles plans to rejoin with Iblis).

Unlike all the other characters, Mephiles isn't tethered to a set point in time. After being released in TS2 he could easily go back to A1 and do whatever needs to be done to try and sell whatever narrative he's pushing. And you can't tell me someone as insane as Mephiles wouldn't pull some galaxy brained complicated timeline bullshit to try and get his way. Curating the perfect setup to where Silver would be desperate enough to go along with what Mephiles was saying. But in order to do that Mephiles would need to remove both Sonic and Shadow out of the equation, so that's what he did. He needed a successful apocalypse and can't have two powerhouse hedgehogs threatening Iblis' takeover

TLDR: In Silvers base timeline Mephiles murdered Sonic and framed Shadow, so Iblis can cause the apocalypse and Mephiles could easily manipulate Silver to go along with with his plan.

[colossussteppes]

[heartofsol]

As one of my mutuals @kittydoremi pointed out, this image of Shadow in Kingdom Valley has an orange orb around him that looks very similar to Elise's aura/shield power. If Elise does return in this game (fingers crossed), I have a theory as to how it would happen.

So, Kingdom Valley was where Elise and her father used to live before the events of the Solaris Project. After the Project went horribly wrong, resulting in a huge explosion that killed Elise's father, Kingdom Valley was abandoned. However, since Solaris was erased by Elise at the end of 06, the Project never happened. This would mean that Kingdom Valley might not be abandoned and Elise still lives there (potentially with her father) in the present day. Maybe Elise could appear in a small hub world area of Kingdom Valley and her aura shield is an unlockable upgrade.

As for how Elise still has this power when Solaris no longer exists...Well, it wasn't specified in 06 if her aura shield power came from Iblis or was something she had naturally. We all kinda just assumed Elise's aura shield was a result of her being Iblis' vessel.

Maybe I'm asking for too much, but I just want her back! 🥺😭 If Black Doom, a previously hated character that was often called generic and bland, can return then why can't Elise? And honestly, her character was never bad. I'm open to characters receiving second chances.

[atwas-meme-ing]

Ok, wait, hear me out:

So, Origins shows that the Chaos Emeralds led Sonic to West Island, where he met Tails, aka Sonic's little brother. Knuckles is the Master Emerald's guardian (and possibly created by the M.E., but that's a topic for another post), and he was all alone on his island until Sonic and Tails showed up, and now they hardly ever leave the guy alone. We could argue that Amy only got dragged into it all because she was a crazy Sonic fangirl at the time, but it was a fortune card reading that led her to Little Planet, and who are we to say the Emeralds can't control fortune card readings??? Gamma's kind of an odd one out, here, but Gamma was Eggman's best robot at the time, of course he was bound to find at least one of the emeralds; besides, it was actually the flicky inside Gamma that brought the emerald to Sonic (after the flicky was reunited with its family).

But the one I really wanna point out here is Big. Because it was Froggy, who was Big's only friend, who swallowed an Emerald. But because of that, now Big has lots of friends, especially Cream and Amy, but he's even had a chance to teach Sonic how to fish. See? Lots of new friends. All because his pet frog swallowed a Chaos Emerald.

And then, of course, there's Shadow and all of his Chaos abilities, and now Shadow has Rouge and Omega and Sonic and Amy and... well, everyone's his friend, even if he has trouble calling them friends.

And I haven't gotten far on 06, but I guess Silver has some connection to the Chaos Emeralds, cuz Super Silver is a real thing. And he doesn't have anybody in the future except Blaze (sometimes, but she does have her own world), so his best friends are all in the past, and somehow he keeps having to come back to the past to save the future and it just so happens that he gets to hang with his besties in the process.

So, anyway, my point is that the Emeralds seem to be choosing heroes the same way the Master Sword has to be the one to choose Link. But the Emeralds also seem to have another goal in mind of giving people homes and love and friends and family.

EDIT: Sadly, the part about Big was disproven in the latest update. But since Divergence shows how Knuckles got to Ares Island, I still stand by the rest of this theory.

[nebulousjoy]

So Sonic 06 takes a fair amount of beats from SA1 right, which I'm sure at least a couple of people have talked about. But, has anyone ever really discussed how much of Elise's story (and character to a lesser degree) is similar to Tikal's?

I don't know how much of it is intentional or not, but still think about it.

Both are "princesses" (quotes because Tikal isn't officially one, but her status in the Knuckles Clan could more or less be called that).

Both are daughters of men - the leaders of their peoples - who messed with higher powers and died because of it.

Both are connected to elemental god-creatures capable of mass destruction because of their fathers' actions.

Both have brown/orange hair/fur colors and blue eyes.

Both serve important roles for Sonic in their respective games (Elise more explicitly) - though this one is less specific.

In terms of character, the strongest notable traits they share are their compassion & care for their peoples. Along with how they both feel great burdens for their inability to truly help their people and the world itself, having to rely on Sonic and his friends, though this one is a more nuanced for each side.

Something funny to note is that Elise's father tampered with Solaris for good intentions (so he and Elise could see her deceased mother again). Pachacamac, Tikal's father, was just power-hungry and let it consume him - evoking the wrath of Chaos.

(All of this is for me to say that I really like the idea of Tikal and Elise somehow meeting. I think they'd get along well.)

[marinaiguess]

blaze my beloved blaze. you could control fire before you sealed iblis in you. iblis wouldnt accept silver as a vessel but it did choose you. why? was it bcuz you are a royal soul even if you werent a princess in sonic's world? were you a princess in sonic's world but we never got to know abt it? was it your pyrokinesis that made iblis decide that you are going to be the vessel? have you ever cried blaze? i wonder if you could wake up iblis with your crying or if thats not enough since you can already control fire. who are you blaze? is the fire within you actually a curse? a tamed one? one that could cause the destruction of your world at some point? what are you made of?

[averagecontentenjoyer121]

I’ve been thinking about Sonic 3 and want to theorize in future movies, so SPOILERS for Sonic 3

So the first movie was based Sonic 1

The second on 2 and 3&K

And OBVIOUSLY 3 on SA2

And if you’ve seen 3’s after credits scene then you know Amy and MY BOY METAL are coming in 4, and that’ll probably be one of the first scenes in the movie like the after credits of sonic 2

Given the refrence to terminator and that both Amy and Metal being from CD it makes sense that 4 will be based on CD and deal with time travel

So I think 4 will mess around with Sonic going through the timeline in some way to prevent

s o m e t h i n g

I’ve seen some people think that there’s going to be some sort of hive mind style system with the Metals, given that there are SEVERAL Metals

Personally I’d love to believe that we’d see Neo Metal in live action someday, but I HIGHLY doubt it.

However on the subject of Neo Metal a GIGANTIC MAYBE could be that 4 might be based on Sonic Heroes and in turn we could get more Sonic characters like Rouge and Omega, more likely Omega.

Also, Omega and the whole E-series might be made by Stone

And more unlikely maybe we could see Cream and Big, Maybe even the Chaotix, but that’s honestly too many characters to introduce in one movie.

Maybe Cream and Big could be introduced as apart of Amy’s team fighting against the Metals or something idk

And now let’s theorize on the possibilities of 5

So if 4 goes the route of time travel shenanigans then I believe we could see Silver, and maybe Blaze in 5. What their role(s) will be idk, I just think it would make sense if they deal with time travel in 4.

Also, if silver comes to the series he’d be shown in the AC of 4 most likely, and we already have references to 06 in the form of Iblis being in the Knuckles show and Knucks using the flames of destruction ability in 3, but that could be all the films give to 06.

Also in the AC of 3 we know Shadow is still alive, but no one’s surprised by that tho. But IF they go with 06 for 5 maybe this could allow for Mephilies to be in 5, but that’s getting more in conspiracy territory.

If they Introduce Amy’s team in 4 and the chaotix and team Dark in a possible Shadow show, we’ll get into it, maybe 5 could be be based on heroes instead.

And the messings around of Neo in 5 could lead into 6 being based on 06 in some way.

In all honesty I’m not sure how likely they’d go with 06, we’ll really have to wait and see for 4 or 5 to come out.

Also, sense shadow is still alive we could get a Shadow the Hedgehog Show akin to the Knuckles show and maybe we could see references to the Black arms and Black Doom.

Also correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Shadow in the movie also made with Alien DNA and didn’t it show Black Arms like stuff in the movie.

Also if this possible show comes out before 4, like the knuckles show, and they do want to introduce all those characters from Heroes, the show is probably the best way to do this.

The chaotix could be hired to, or are just investigating the giant explosion that happened at the end of 3 and come across Shadow. which also aligns with the shadow game because they play a role in it.

We could also see Omega introduced in this show, probably made by Stone to find Shadow for some reason

Rouge could be introduced to hunt down the emeralds or master emerald by Stone, idk really know how they’d introduce her, or if they’d even introduce her to series

Idk about Cream or Big in this show they just seem less likely, but if they do Sonic Heroes for 4 and 06 for 5 then anything is likely for me, what I came up for 4 just makes more sense.

Atleast cream has more going for her because of the chao in 3 but once again idk.

Update:

Also if they introduce blaze into the series we could see alternate universe stuff introduced as well and maybe see references to others games that’ll never be put in an actual movie

And some games I don’t think we’ll ever see in the movies are generations, forces, frontiers, lost world, colors, boom, any racing game, any educational game, and both of the Wii Games.

Maybe the Wii games could be refrenced in the alternate universe thing with Blaze

[sonknuxadow]

ive always assumed that blaze is the sol dimension equivalent of sonic not in a "is actually sonic" kind of way but that she just plays a similar role as him and mirrors him in a lot of ways. however ive seen some people talk about her as if she's Literally sonic from an alternate dimension. so now im curious what everyone else thinks and im making a poll