#So Vanny and Glitchtrap really can only help Cassie

[sourapplesauces]

Hey!!!! You should uhhh infodump about your FNAF AU, that would be really cool. If you want. Especially stuff about Vanessa maybe, she's my girl

Hi! Thanks for the ask! I always wanted to infodump abt this but I never found an outlet!!  

Gregory Alavarez

12 years old  

Argentinian  

Vanessa offered to get him a haircut, but he preferred the messy shaggy hair 

Has amnesia about his past life; he doesn’t remember his parents 

Vanessa caught him trying to pierce his own ears, later she took him to a proper piercer. 

When asked why he got the piercing, he said it was to match Freddy 

Has a tough bad-boy exterior, but he's softer when in Cassie, Vanessa and Freddy’s company 

Has like really good grades, he's a smart kid. 

Has a lot of sleepovers with Cassie where they just chill playing video games and doing each other's makeup and nails 

He also likes drawing and programming 

He gets night terrors, and a lot of nightmares of memories that aren't his 

He also HATES the dark, and he's a little bit claustrophobic 

Owns a TON of Freddy merch and he decorates his bedroom with it 

He sees Freddy as a parental figure, but he’s too shy to express it. 

Is GGY/patient 46

Vanessa Alvarez

24 years old 

Inspired off of her first poster where she had wavy hair and freckles (I just added a tooth gap bc I thought it looked cute.) 

Lesbian

Has little recollection of her time as Vanny, Afton put her to sleep most of the time- but she's had visions and physical scars. 

Pre-help wanted: her personality was bubblier, she had hobbies like baking, gaming and cosmetics. 

Post-security breach: she’s more on the quiet side, she can get anxious and depressed at times. But shes keeping her head up for Gregory (and she’ll learn to do so for herself as well). 

As for hobbies: She likes to read now, and she still bakes occasionally 

Can be unintentionally rude sometimes 

Her parents are deceased (backstory later ...*wink wink*) 

She lived at the Pizzaplex for a while, but after the savior ending she got a brand-new apartment to start things over. 

Vanessa and Valerie (tape girl) were romantically involved at some point, but were torn apart by glitchtrap 

Freddy and Gregory live with Vanessa in her new apartment  

Vanessa has legally adopted Gregory, but their dynamic is more sibling-like than it is parental. 

Glamrock Freddy 

His immobility slightly bothers him, not being able to express himself properly is the worst part of being just an animatronic head. 

Vanessa and Gregory like taking him on road trips to see more of the world, so much so that Freddy considers traveling as one of his hobbies 

Vanessa and Gregory connected him to the internet so he's basically like Alexa now (he's just sentient)

Him and Bonnie are long lost lovers (he hardly talks about it though) 

He's become a reliable source of advice for both Gregory and Vanessa 

Freddy is the peacemaker/glue/dad in the group 

Vanessa has been working for a while to make a body for Freddy, though the lack of parts available for him has slowed things down. They resorted to stealing from warehouses and recycling everyday items to create a makeshift body for him. Though it's only halfway completed in the present.  

He's really good at singing. Oftentimes, he finds himself singing lullabies to Gregory or singing along to tunes during road trips. 

He misses his friends a lot of the time, and he’s still a little frustrated with Gregory for treating them with cruelty. 

Dislikes conflict/ likes seeing the bright side of things  

[puhpandas]

i saw some of your posts about being anti-cassie's dad protag for HW2, which valid, but the theory's become so popular most people seem to accept it. HW2 is kind of a mess to theorize about what the string of events was considering both endings could easily be canon, but I guess I'll get to the point. I'm sure most people have heard plenty of theories about what happens in the game if it's Cassie's Dad as the protagonist, so I'm curious. If you don't think it's him, who do you think is most likely? And (while this is difficult to figure out with any protag..) what do you think is supposed to be happening throughout the game, like, timeline-wise/plot-wise? Personally I feel like Cassie's Dad protag is possible, but I don't think it's set in stone or that he would be a reoccuring character. Imo Cassie's Dad protag works best if he stays a one-off character, building onto Cassie's backstory. I kinda wonder if the "what makes you so special?" lines aren't actually saying he's special, but asking what he thinks makes him special enough to go through all this and survive. Still I'm really curious to hear alternatives! I'm definitely not attatched to that theory lol. I just haven't really heard anything else tbh since the theory's so big in the fandom..

theres tons of evidence (a lot of it already used for cassie dad protag evidence) that apply to Cassie protag. for starters hw2 is obviously incredibly reminiscent of hw1 with its ending. vanny traps you somewhere and waves, the same way glitchtrap trapped you somewhere and waved in hw1s canon ending.

it's been widely accepted that vanny cassie is very possible and the direction the story is going in so playing as cassie in the lobby and going through princess quest and helping vanny and it being implied Vannys using the player as a vessel now the same way glitchtrap used vanessa to create vanny makes it very plausible we play as cassie

theres also the 'unused' line (but they all perfectly apply to the game as it is right now and add much needed context that make the game actually make sense) that's from presumably vanny, saying: "it kept you for a reason"

not only does the it pronoun 100% mean the mimic (and cassie is still down there in the same place where the mimic is literally free rn but alive) but it means that the mimic purposefully didnt kill cassie and also probably was the one to drop the evelator because it has a plan for her. aka the plan is getting vanny a new vessel so mimic can resume operations

the lobby itself also perfectly matches post ruin. you have the vanni mask on first of all, but second of all theres little items around the lobby that hint that you're cassie. like the robot parts strewn around that could imply cassie is trying to repair roxy (theres also the helpy screen)

as for "what makes you so special" I think people are misinterpreting the cassie ending as it being Cassies dad and not a staffbot. it literally shows you straight up that you get attacked by other staffbots and made into maskbot and give cassie the mask. if anything it shows us that Cassies arrival was planned and it's more evidence that we play as her becoming vanny. but its ALSO a perfect explanation for how confusing the minigames are in telling us who we play as

we literally play as a staffbot/mapbot. the minigames go from clean and fixed animatronics to gradually getting worse. even when the pizzaplex is clean and the animatronics are just a bit dirty, we've only seen that in sb. we play as a staffbot from pre sb, during sb, and post sb. "what makes you so special" what makes you so special compared to the other staffbots

it also explains why the animatronics are mean to you. staffbots are seen as useless hunks of junk and its shown all across the pizzaplex and in ruin as well when they're constantly shown discarded and destroyed.

freddy also says the line "you ARE a Fazbear technician, arent you? idk bc I can't see you". it means we literally arent a Fazbear technician. were a staffbot. and the same applies for carnies line about kids. its prerecorded and we're just a robot anyway

I have more posts about all this stuff individually but more in depth in my hw2 theory tag. this is what I genuinely think and I believe cassie is the protag for sure. it just feels so clear with how reminiscent hw2 is of hw1s ending tied with the clear plot of vanny cassie it's just like. why would we play as her dad when we watch ourselves get trapped by vanny the same way vanessa did right in front of our eyes.

we have the cassie ending because it shows us how maskbot got the mask and where it came from. it came from glitchtrap + by extension the mimic and vanny. vanny betrays glitchtrap at the end but also traps cassie in the process. the elevator dropped on cassie in ruin because the mimic did it on purpose to enact this plan. I think hw2 is more straightforward than ppl realize if you put everything together from what we have and dont try your hardest to put other characters in when the game is definitely about vanny cassie

like hw2 and ruin were made at the same time. they go hand in hand and reference eachother in the game, even before one of them was even out. the story is about cassie becoming vanny, the whole thing. this game is an intermission (the song scorched cranberries (the end credits song) is elevator music) showing us how the new villain/character thatll be big in the next plot was created. this is about cassie

maybe her dad will have the spotlight in hw2s dlc. idk. he has something going on but nothing in hw2 I dont think.

[meowbomb]

Moon was always Vanny’s puppet.

dramatic title aside. The hw2 endings adds some context to things that were confusing in security breach and ruin. Specifically the daycare attendant.

(Fair warning: this might be a whole lot of stretches and really scuffed but hear me out and help wanted 2 spoilers. This was made for fun. Long post ahead)

In ruin, Cassie’s description of the sun and moon plush state things like “I never slept better than I did in the daycare” and “I used to have so much fun in the daycare” which are a bit different than what we’re initially presented with in the night terrors message in security breach.

Both of these differing statements are true. But it’s just when they take place. I think Cassie’s time in the daycare was before the glitchtrap virus stuff started going on. If it wasn’t happening at the time, Moon wouldn’t be acting up. The night terrors message was written during the time where Moon was infected with the virus, that’s why he’s scaring children to the point of making them afraid of the dark.

His default code wasn’t a problem. He wasn’t created to be evil. Moon was good until the virus took a hold and he starts following Vanny’s orders.

While yes, the glamrocks probably follow what Vanny asks. Moon specifically is the helper.

Handunit in hw 2 talks about the endos like they are children. They are built with mimicking technology and are taught by behaviour cards so they understand what’s expected from them in situations.

In Security breach the warehouse has doors with lessons for the endos. But looking around the place, it’s clear that all of these lessons were failed.

Why do they keep failing them? Because they believe the incorrect lesson is right.

The endo warehouse has so many things with Moon or relating to daycare. If endos are influenced by cards and lessons, what’s to say they aren’t influenced by Moon? If Vanny placed everything relating to him there, it’s because the endos should follow his lead, not exactly like the glamrocks. The glamrocks have behaviours and personalities that makes them well..them. Example Roxy will follow Vanny’s orders but she still takes the time to cry alone or how Chica will still binge on food.

With Moon, it’s not like that. Yes, glimpses of personality makes itself known like the cackling and clear annoyance with cleaning up. He has fun along the way but will still try to get the job done. He’s always tracked down Gregory’s location despite the kid being far from daycare.

In ruin, there’s endos in daycare because to them, it’s similar to the warehouse. They recognise Moon and if Vanny isn’t there to control things anymore, her head puppet is next best thing.

In the “final” endo warehouse lesson, there’s painted rabbit ears and an outline that can be glitchtrap.

Besides I think it’s very interesting the two notable characters who have beckoning animations at the player are glitchtrap and moon. They obviously aren’t the same person at all but it can be the virus in his code.

In hw2’s PQ4 ending Moon is the claw of the machine Vanny is playing. Vanny doesn’t get it herself, Moon is the one who gets it for her.

It’s almost like how Moon targets Freddy instead of Gregory. He has the perfect opportunity as Gregory is basically backed to a corner with Freddy being low on battery before this. He takes out Freddy for Vanessa to leave him immobile and without his head attached. Why go for Freddy? Because Freddy is Gregory’s only ally. Sure, Gregory could sneak but he’s alone and more vulnerable to the animatronics and Vanny getting him.

What does sun have to do with this?

Sun and Moon’s relationship early in the timeline is unknown. So we’ll have to go off on what the games give us.

I think Sun knows there’s something going on with Moon. It’s why he’s very insistent of lights being on. He doesn’t know if Moon will do something that will hurt someone or place them under risk of being decommissioned.

He can’t do anything to help himself or Moon because he’s stuck to daycare unlike Moon who has free access to leave. Thus their situation was always bound to get worse.

In arts and crafts: loft, Sun sits closely by a light under a fort. He insists you leave immediately after you’re done because he considers himself and Moon a threat to you and others. If the power in daycare is dwindling, he has no control over Moon coming out. Sun would rather stay abandoned and alone than risk it.

Ruin is where their situation reaches its peak. There’s no lights and Sun is a prisoner in his body. He’s stuck in ar world. Both he and Moon have lost it due to prolonged isolation. He pleads to be rebooted because it’s his and Moon’s only way to be at peace again. If they’re rebooted into safe mode, it cuts off Vanny’s control of them.

Sun and Moon’s situation parallels the Vanessa and Vanny thing. Moon is Sun’s Vanny. Moon and Vanny play with their prey and have red glowing eyes. Vanessa doesn’t like dark basements and wanted to follow instructions like how Sun doesn’t want the lights off and strictly follows rules.

I’m not saying they’re a one by one comparison. Both things are different here and there but still there is small things there.

Jack o moon and Balloon world

Notably, balloon world and Jack o moon are kinda similar. In balloon world, you have to follow the purple glitched path to get the goodnight from the eclipse in that game. In the Foxy log ride, you have to go through the alternate ar world path of the ride where you find Jack o moon.

It’s also interesting that in hw2 we play princess quest 4 but in security breach there’s messages of another person playing the games too. This person gets more and more fixated to where they’re begging to save the princess. Eventually their last message is in the loft next to balloon world.

It also should be noted that other arcade machine with balloon world in security breach is in Vanny’s other hideout in the Burntrap ending.

Look, who knows I might be entirely wrong but there’s so many questions left. Why is the warehouse linked to Sun and Moon? Who is the person trying to save the princess? Who are we playing as? What’s even going on anymore?

I know using stuff from hw2 is debatable considering the first game but I do think some aspects of the ruined sections of hw2 happened in the timeline. I can’t wait to be proven so wrong.

[theangrycomet-art]

3 Questions

1: How long does it take for all the glamrock to realize they're all protecting a child?

2: How many security bonds will it take to find four children

3: How much searching will it take for Vanny/ Vanessa To find at least one if she's in already aware a four kids

1: Longer than it should to be honest. But neither Freddy nor Chica are particularly bright and Roxy and Monty are to worried about their girls to pay attention to how evasive their friends are being.

I’m still figuring out the details on it all, but I think it would be halfway through the night, like around 3 am-ish?

I know Roxy is the first animatronic to figure it out, but it’s not like she wouldn’t  take matters on her own hands. 

More specifically (spoilers) when she’s looking for Cassie and finds her in her Vanny mask between Monty and Freddy on the elevator.

Monty and Freddy can’t see her, but even if they could are really distracted with trying not to look inconspicuous and like their chest compartments are completely empty. 

Gregory and Naomi are trying to figure how the FUCK to warn Cassie about the other guy when Roxy shows up, takes one look at the situation, and begins yelling at Freddy and Monty for being idiots.

“I kind of expected this kind of stunt from Monty-“ *offended alligator noises* “But Freddy what the actual fuck? You chest compartments aren’t the Daycare!!!”

More chaos ensues.

2: I’m not sure? 

I don’t know what you mean “security bonds”, but I’m going to assume it was either security guards or the security Bots.

For guards 1, technically 2 if you count glitchtrap.

With the Glamrock Kids I want Vanny to be more of a threat and have Vanessa still trying to help the kids (like in the original trailers). 

Bring up more Vanny’s presence can cause the Animatronics to glitch/black out for a few minutes. Make it where they have to stay a certain distance away or risk shutting down for a the rest of the hour. If they can’t do anything leaving the kids on their own. There is also the potential of Vanny restoring the glitch if left too long near her too. 

As for Officer Vanessa, she wants to get them out safely but none of the kids are sure whether they can trust Vanessa or not. Have her show up at opportune moments to help when the animatronics are preoccupied.

As to the security bots themselves, I want them to pose as more of a threat as the game goes on (especially given the ending where the STAFF bots literally tear Freddy to shreds. 

With each hour that passes, have the security bots become more aggressive in finding the kids. Hunt them down for increasing amounts of time. Destroy or dismantle known hiding places (like in Hello Neighbor) if you get caught. Eventually some the security bots could even drag the kid towards Vanny (or the nearest animatronic if this is single player mode).

Though if the kid summons their animatronic quick enough, this could be potentially circumvented, so I dunno.

3: Searching is easy, it’s retrieving that’s the hard part.

Vanessa thinks there is only 1 boy loose in the pizzaplex at the start, but given her (presumable) access to the security cameras, I think she’d figure out there was more than one kid causing trouble pretty fast.

She probably is aware of there being at least 3 kids (what with Cassie glitching in and out of view) almost from the start.

As for the kids, I know Gregory and Naomi meet first at the daycare- Monty having sent her there for a security badge and maybe a taser (plus it supposed to be the safest spot in the whole pizzaplex). They make quick work of getting the badge and make quicker work of turning the generators back on.

Meanwhile, Cassie and Brandon meet in Gator’s golf, trying to find these cameras that supposedly stun the animatronics, but find Jack squat. Here is where Brandon gets his Taser, unlike his single-player play through, where he would get it at the day care.

Story wise, she’d probably catch Gregory first- due to Map-Bot like in the game. (Also- I haven’t seen anyone talk about this, Vanessa totally knocks Gregory unconscious the first time she catches him???)

She stuffs him in lost in found but this time he’s got back up, and makes quick work of escaping the psychopathic bunny.

Though things definitely take a turn for the worse when Vanny figures out the animatronics have been HIDING the children from her. Particularly behind one of her own masks.

[harley-angel]

Alright time for my own theory

Spoilers for the RUIN DLC under cut

Yes, Gregory can be ruthless, but you’re trying to tell me the same kid who risked his life to get Freddy (who he had only known for a few hours) would willingly try to kill Cassie (who seems to be his only friend?) I know people will try to point to the ‘GGY’ story, but please remember he was possessed by Glitchtrap in that (Like how Vanessa was).

Personally, I think the mimic took over his voice at the end like this thread said but that brings the question as to why. Well, as we’ve seen, the animatronics (At least Roxy) want Gregory, not Cassie. What’s the easiest way to get Gregory back?

Trapping his friend at the Pizzaplex.

Plus, it helps the Mimic to ruin Cassie’s trust in Gregory. Trick her so much, how can she tell if/when Gregory does come to help her, it’s really him? Is it the real Gregory, or another trick? How can Cassie trust him after everything the Mimic put her through? How can she trust her own eyes after the VANNI mask?

I don’t think we’re done with the Pizzaplex.

[silllymnnan]

So I've been thinking, I think the most widely accepted theory about the security breach ruin trailer is that it's not Gregory speaking but honestly I think for it not to be him would be incredibly impractical.

Starting from the start of the trailer we hit it off with a frightened Gregory directly asking Cassie for help. Had this been vanny, glitchtrap/burntrap, or really just anyone else, I'm personally instantly questioning why they'd want her, then how do they know Gregory knows her. As far as vanny knows Gregory's and orphan with absolutely no records, and while you could argue the events of ggy mean glitchtrap definitely does, it really doesn't because as Scott's said time and time again, the books are a *parallel* to the in game universe meaning it's way less likely for the entire events of that story to be canonical to the games.

While yes something may be true to the games, a large majority of it all is without a doubt staying remotely in the book canon and away from the games.

Moving on to Cassie, during the entirety of the trailer she says one line and said line is; "GREGORY, RUN!", Which to me implies she has caught sight of something fatal go after Gregory, and while you may argue she might've heard something approach Gregory over her walkie talkie, if it was loud enough for her to hear it, Gregory himself would've without a doubt heard it too. This is why I personally believe Cassie had to have seen whatever it was that Gregory had to run away from.

On top of that, Gregory and Cassie have walkies together and I think Gregory must've had to pair his with hers meaning even if it had been brief at some point they had to meet. I think the only hole in this specific part of the theory is how Gregory would've reached out to Cassie in the first place, and I honestly just don't know, and I'm hoping that's something the games or whatever can clear up.

And lastly, Gregorys voiceline at the very very very end. "Don't give up on me yet". And yeah, this is obviously directed at the fandom, but it also implies that this is the same Gregory from SB, while yeah vanny could easily fit this too given that she was an absolute flop in security breach, why not just have her say that herself? I think it would be absolutely pointless to have Gregory say that just for it to turn out to be vanny in the DLC, but ofc, that's just my opinion.

And that's about it, course this, again, is just my opinion on that theory and the holes I think it has, but I'm completely up to other ideas and stuff if you happen to actually read this whole :DDD

[sparethedreamer]

FNAF hypothesis (not a theory cuz no research):

FNAF Help Wanted 2 spoilers/discussion warning

SpareTheDreamer high fatigue warning (brain go brrr?)

You know how in FNAF Security Breach: Ruin, mxes is revealed to not be your enemy/Afton/Glitchtrap but a security program? What if Moon is sort of the same? The only people he goes after are those influenced by Glitchtrap: Gregory, Cassy after getting the mask, and the main character of FNAF Help Wanted 2, who is most likely affected by their mask and stuff (especially supported by the claw machine ending where Glitchtrap is taken from you and smooshed).

So what if Moon isn't just 'evil plurality alter' trope, and actually can detect and is tasked to try to destroy Glitchtrap? He's always going on about naptime and how it's past your bedtime and how naughty you are, but what if he's talking to Glitchtrap? Afton's supposed to be gone. He needs to stop and "go to sleep". He's naughty for being there and taking over people.

At the end of Help Wanted 2, it's Moon that takes your Glitchtrap plushie to be destroyed by Vanny. He ends with one last "naughty, naughty", potentially directed at Glitchtrap. He doesn't hurt you. He's merely being directed by Vanny who wants to get rid of Glitchtrap.

There is SO much emphasis on Moon in HW2. Surely there has to be a reason for that. Maybe this is what Steel Wool/Scott are trying to tell us.

Feel free to take this and run with it if it seems likely. It needs more contemplation, research, and polish. Alas, I don't have the ability to do that due to my ME/CFS.

We need to think more about Moon. And probably Sun. And Eclipse. Here's hoping for a nuanced system for some actually good plurality representation. We really hope they do something good with this opportunity.

[b-lightwalker]

Michael is Cassie’s Dad AU

Long story short, I think Michael being Cassie’s dad is neat but I think the only way it could work is if Help Wanted 2 happens before SB and Glitchtrap claims another victim. His own son, ‘cause free real estate.

Michael survives the Pizza Place fire, unfortunately for him, and he figures the only thing left for him to do now is to make sure his father didn’t come back. (And find another way to die, but one burnt bridge at a time.) He takes Helpy, salvages anything he can, and leaves. Soon after, he finds Cassie, fails to find her parents, and takes her in. It’s a reason to live, if you will. Oh, and Helpy’s kind of her brother now.

The Pizzaplex opens and Michael tries to get a job as the nightguard but it’s already taken (somehow) so he gets a job as a technician. Soon after, Fazbear Entertainment starts making Help Wanted 2, and Michael signs up as a game tester. He has the time of his life reliving SL and surprise, surprise, Help Wanted 1 things start happening and Glitchtrap is here. (And maybe there’s another Jeremy who’s gonna slice his stomach open instead of slicing his face off, I dunno.) With William now also hijacking Michael’s mind, Michael and Vanessa start working together under William’s influence. They finish up Vanessa’s Vanny mask, Elizabeth’s new body, and the hideouts for Vanny to work in while Elizabeth carries out her act. Sometime during this, they nab Gregory and Patient 46/GGY happens or something.

I’m thinking that Michael is the one who makes the security/V.A.N.N.I. mask and Helpi system. He makes a more “tame” version that he presents to Fazbear Entertainment as something to make repairs and the like easier. They love it and use it for their Class V technicians since it’s expensive and would only really be needed for more advanced stuff. Then later, Michael gives them the V.A.N.N.I. mask and Helpi system we see in Ruin. And while the fact that it implants a chip in your head should be a red flag, Michael has yet to screw Fazbear Ent. over (to their knowledge), so they use the new design and system. (And Mike/William probably pulled a SL by answering yet dodging all the questions.) The security masks make it easier for Michael and Vanessa to cover their tracks.

For Cassie’s disastrous 11th birthday, Michael sends Gregory to keep her company. They become good friends which works for Michael and Vanessa. (I guess Gregory’s chillin’ with either Vanessa/Elizabeth, Vanny, or Michael if he’s not helping them ‘cause problems around the Pizzaplex.) Then whatever triggers SB happens and Gregory becomes a target. Princess Quest ending. Everyone’s now free to live their lives and Michael, Elizabeth, Vanessa, Gregory, and Freddy’s goals are to undo the damage done the best they can. (I am liking the thought of Michael still being under William’s control though.) Ruin happens and then everyone’s goal becomes finding Cassie.

Don’t know whether or not Cassie should be a robot child or not. I like the thought of Michael just finding her and being like, this is my life now, but I also like the thought of William having Michael create her to help in the lure and kill children thing, but then deciding not to to use her as leverage against Michael. Doesn’t take much effort to pull the ‘You’re Responsible for Your Siblings’ Deaths’ card so don’t do anything to cause this child’s death. Of course, it could work either way. If she is a robot, she may be possessed by Charlotte. Which in that case, GlamHenry. And I’m not sure about GregEvan. I like the thought of Gregory being a random child Mike and Vanessa nabbed, but I also like the thought of Evan also being forced to be a puppet for William. If these are the case, then I guess for Clara, William had Michael start building her a body so she can join the family of murderers.

[monty-glasses-roxy]

So... so far my thoughts on Help Wanted 2 are that yeah probably playing as Cassie's dad or the conspiracy guy from SB. I'm weirdly not too interested honestly? We seem to have maybe given Vanny some revenge in allowing her to kill Glitchtrap with Princess Quest 4, which is interesting. Interesting to know that's where the fourth game is too.

Moon and Mystic Hippo saying "what makes you so special?" is interesting too like??? Honestly? This feels like the player is the one that got away. Like we survived something, when no one else did, or we just chose this path despite no logical reason and no logical connection to anything at all. Maybe we're Luis here to save Vanessa? Maybe we're Cassie's dad trying to save her, and in doing so, leave nothing to prevent Cassie from joining us in the dark? Or conspiracy guy from SB that just knows something is wrong and has figured out that someone is trapped by the games, with this being their final attempts to do something about it?

Or perhaps, we're one of Mimic's (or Vanny's?) victims, the only one to get away in a massacre and have returned for one reason or another? That does happen twice in the books, so maybe that's applicable here too and we're the one that got away and sealed it away? Such as one of the construction workers for the Raceway that went down there and never came back? Maybe we're there, now trapped underground (since you can't go into the pizzeria in Ruin) hoping Cassie will save us or stop the Mimic?

Mystic Hippo also tells you to really look at our hands which is interesting. Maybe to remind us we're in VR or something? I dunno. Interesting though. There's all those little things like Roxy's plushie being in the dark in the bowling alley, Mystic Hippo asking when we are, all the Glitchtrap stuff happening, the lack of anything Mimic related, the Maskbot having rabbit ears and whatever else... It's all really interesting I guess. Maybe we're the spirits that possess Tangle, or Vanessa or someone, I dunno, maybe Jeremy? Beats me. This is thinking for another day.

Anyway

I fucking LOVE the DJ levels and the carousel. DJ's animations are gorgeously done, he looks amazing and so full of life and character, and the music is fun, he's just so cool. The carousel?? Fucking opens with Sunny complaining that if he was programmed to fix it, it'd be fixed by now lmao and then Moon is just coming at you while you get the three rows of characters moving again. Then suddenly it's on fire. And they added another fucking daycare attendant called Jack-O-Moon that looks dope as hell but I'd bet is making the tags even more inhospitable than before, so thanks for that Steel Wool lmao

I love that Chica is such a nuisance too. Like, they say they're looking into DJ's bugs but not Chica's. Nah you can handle her! She's just going to eat everything ever! Honestly, I'm convinced your job is less preparing food for customers and more preparing food as a Chica Distraction lmao. She's got a massive presence in the game. She's in every food prep stage, the last Fizzy Faz stage, the wild west Fazerblast game and the log flume ride, and she's a really big part of all of those too. This is Chica's game I guess??? Or perhaps this is to show us that Chica is an absolute menace to every staff member ever lmao good for her honestly

Roxy's game is eh. You need to keep watching her or she kills you and if you make too many mistakes she will also kill you which yeah that's fair. Why is her model so dirty though that's what I wanna know. Honestly, her intro speech, like a few others, all feel hugely reheresed like she's sick of saying it over and over which is neat. Foxy has the same thing going on and so does the carnival nurse (who I adore oh my god that happy "I QUIT MY JOB!" thrown in the middle I love it sfdsfsd) but what's interesting about it is the comparison. After the first introduction, Roxy loses that stilted way of talking. She sounds genuinely annoyed that you aren't paying attention to her, and of course in the Ruined version, she sounds in genuine distress the whole time. I dunno, I just think that's neat!

The fact you're using the parts of everyone else on her is interesting too. That's what Gregory did with Freddy, and now someone is doing it with her and she doesn't accept it at all. It just makes her more frustrated with us until she demands a mask. I suppose the thing here is that of course nothing is working for her. She can't see what she looks like and thus, has to go off of how these things are making her feel, and none of them are making her feel better, only worse. Cause of course it would! The other animatronic parts being stuck onto her face obviously aren't going to make her feel better. Her own snout isn't making her feel better because she just wants her god damn eyes back off that thieving kid and everything will be okay again... Hence why she gives up on this and goes back to trying to figure out where he's gone again. Interesting stuff on that one

And sddfsdd Freddy freezing himself in place in cold storage like a dumb. And the fact Circus Baby gives you ice cream and plays games with you like you're a friend and not killable? Interesting! Cool! Sunny being so bossy and stuck up about artwork and the carousel? Hilarious. I love it. Why's the carousel on fire though...

I believe there are still some gamemodes we don't have access to yet, so that's probably where Monty's at. Shame we don't see him at all here but I'm sure we'll see more of him soon.

WE GOT TO SEE MORE OF THE MINIS THOUGH!!!! I love them oh my god. Their model is all YIPPEEEE!!! and I love that for them. They just wanna make music with DJ too! It's so unfair!

And those are my current thoughts on the game. Would love to hear how other people are finding it!

[crunchchute]

need to know when exactly hw2 is taking place so that i can work it into my headcanons cause right now its just not fitting at all. a lot of "..unless?" but i wont know until i get the timeline (more under cut i guess. spoiler territory ahead 🚨🚨)

also i had 6 hours of copium for my sleeptime. if youre a hater just take this as if i was pulling this out of my ass, unless you agree, in which case youre welcome to comment or. nod in agreement.

so how does this help wanted economy affect the fazcoin?

but no for real now. to preface im very forgetful when it comes to fnaf lore and i sometimes miss some plot points and many times they affect my headcanons (once i remember them) but i cant check everything. im just forming my own little timeline with my own ideas i guess, but i still want it to be canon adjacent So!

i believed that its taking place post SB, pre Ruin. which i was super happy with as i was worried it would be pre-SB and not give enough lore that i crave. however, just as ive seen some people say, this didnt help with the lore much, and it just got more confusing for me. still a fantastic game but from a lore point it doesnt give us anything too big or a conclusion (well. maybe one) i also saw people say its post ruin, which i dont agree with but i would agree with during ruin. (when ppl say cassie is the player, i dont think so, need more arguments) its unclear once people bring in other arguments than the obvious roxy's mask or the state of the pizzaplex. but basically as an afton believer its hard for me to work around this, but i will try. never back down never what?

so my hc is iykyk, scraptrap->man in the room->ghost/amalgamation->latching onto tech and the mimic in the form of glitch and burntrap->mimic "shedding" him->wills ghost forming mxes; it also works without the frights books but the afton amalgamation and everything around it is too cool to not use. i fucking love ruinborn afton graaaaah *tears shirt apart* i also liked the idea of his spirit shattering and a piece of it forming glitchtrap for years, and i believe it can coexist with mimic, i think burntrap was real and is both mimic and afton.

now. this game. really messing it up for me as glitchtrap existing post or during burntrap just doesnt make sense, i dont want -trap multiples or something (sounds like the years old 2-3 purple guys theory lmao) but i will look into it as glitchtrap and mxes connection..? honestly, i really expected getting to see burntrap here (or at least mimic shown). was burntrap like retconned or something for real??? also still dont understand when people say burntrap isnt the mimic or whatever. no, it is, just with something a little extra on. and that extra is again, wills ghost or remnant or whatever you wanna call it, symbolized by the bonnie parts on his endo, but theres also flesh so yeah, as funny as it sounds i fuck with the afton homunculus growing over mimic theory. its stupid enough, he would do it.

but i wanna focus on mxes, i knew we wouldnt see the entity in the game, didnt expect it. but i also didnt expect the system to show up, which it did, but obviously not the entity yet as i believe they were formed only after burntrap has been "scooped" by tangle (comparing the scooper mimic ending and the burntrap one as a parallel) i just dont understand how glitchtrap is in here. thats the thing i cant figure out! this is 100% post SB so at that point glitchtrap is just gone. how did we get him back now? only ends up with me reaching with like MEGA SPOILERS the vanny ending crushing glitchtrap being a metaphor of her locking away or deleting the code. extreme reaching would be stuffing it into the mxes system where glitch would turn into the entity. but thats way too loose, but ive seen many people call the mxes entity glitchtrap, which doesnt even work with their theory that glitchtrap is mimic, because the entity is obviously not the mimic. like you have to consider this too, not just mimicmimicmimic but then agree that a glitchy rabbit is similar to another glitchy rabbit

lost my thread of thought. and thought of how this all is just, an end to glitchtrap era and only mimic in the future. well.. without an evil rabbit, fnaf will lose its charm for me, i dont know if vanny!cassie would save it for me, i only want wiwi. more wiwi, no mimi *starts glowing red and then explodes* anyway its not that bad. as long as i get to see the mxes entity again i will be good. and as long as im right about the clickteam game, i will be happy :D

also im intrigued by the fallfest showing up again, i really want to see how the maps look and look at all the details.. but in general the area is either underneath or next to the pizzaplex, the body of water in curse of dreadbear imo is the same as the underground water in ruin and hw2 to me confirmed that it truly is all in one place (goes nowhere with this). i love how the hw2 hub is in the pizzasim building. also, another thing, need to check it out again but i want to see if scrap baby is in a vr level or reality so i can theorize about scraptrap, as in, if at least tangle and scrap baby are still around and real in the plex, it would make sense for scraptrap to not show up because he has gone through digitization /j you know the whole pipeline. and so on and so forth

anyway im gonna pet my dogs and maybe read tse and then get back to hw2 in the afternoon. just getting this out of the system and my brain

[mythicaldemigoddess-of-deltarune]

FNAF Ruin Theory: The Entity Is Glamrock Bonnie & Can't Trust Gregory...

[Note: Small Spoilers, if you haven’t played the Ruin DLC or watched the play-through of it or walkthroughs, go check them out first before reading this. also Please Don’t Reblog This Without My Permission.]

it might be a while before I can play the DLC of FNAF Ruin, don't know when it will come out for the Xbox One but hopefully it wont be too long.

I can just enjoy watching the playthroughs and walkthroughs of it for now, but at least it still came out on July.

even if it might seem like The Entity was the Bad Guy, but it might be possible they weren't really as bad as they seem...

it might be possible that they were trying to protect Cassie, knowing she would not just be in danger from The Mimic, but also from Gregory...or at least one of the versions of him.

it could be possible that both the Freeing Vanessa Ending and The Afton Ending are both the true endings, but they happen with two different Freddies & Gregories...

The Good-Gregory is still trapped, and the Bad-Gregory is the one who was part of the Vanessa Ending.

we could explain why there are two of Vanessa in one of the endings, by viewing it as a sign that the one that was Vanny, is really Gregory's Mom and could also turn out to be Tape-Girl.

I don’t think Gregory can be fully trusted, or at least the one that isn’t trapped under the pizzaplex.

it could be possible that Vanessa could of switched Freddy’s head on to a prototype body, and that was why he wasn’t fully himself...

it could also turn out the Roxy that had that touching scene with Cassie, was in fact not the same one that had saved her from the Mimic, and gave her the chance to run for her life.

how would Roxy be turned back on, if the one that Cassie turned off, wasn’t a different version of Roxy and could turn out to be a Prototype.

both versions of Roxy, could have a strong bond with Cassie, and want to protect her.

even if it might seem like that Rabbit Entity is Glitchtrap or Afton, but we might of only been tricked to believe that.

I don’t think that Entity is them at all, and I still believe they are in fact Glamrock Bonnie, he was possibly trying to protect her and she was in no real danger.

that is, until she ended up freeing the Mimic and trusting Gregory when trying to leave by using the elevator....trusting Gregory was a bad move.

at least one of the versions of Gregory, but the Other Gregory, who is possibly the good version, might still actually be trapped in the pizzaplex.

Gregory could still be trapped under the pizzaplex, and Gregory could of figured out that the Freddy that been with him since placing his head back on his body, was not the same one he had befriended.

the one he had befriended, is with the Bad-Gregory, and the Bad-Gregory is the one that Cassie shouldn’t trust....

but why would the Mimic ask Cassie for help, unless there is more to it then just picking her....maybe Gregory had other friends besides Cassie, and she wasn’t the first one that was called to the pizzaplex to help “save” Gregory.

the pictures of the missing people on the news paper in one of the endings, could hint that there were others before Cassie, who had tried to help Gregory or it could just be that the Mimic has been causing people to go missing way before Gregory and Cassie were involved in the pizzaplex.

it could be possible that the Bad-Gregory was based off of the real Gregory, and was the one who played a part in causing some people to go missing.

it could be possible that Bad-Gregory was sending Monty and Chica, or at least the ruined versions of them, after Cassie, but maybe not. 

and if you think about it, technically we were right about Roxy and Sunny/Moony/Eclipsey are kind of Cassie’s guardians...well Moony is still a bit grumpy but maybe with Eclipsey, he is a bit better now and less grumpy...

so Cassie gets a Wolf-Mama and Three Dads who are technically the same but with three split-personalities...maybe split-personalities could have to do with a soul broken into two or three parts of itself...

the Rabbit Entity could be Glamrock Bonnie’s Soul, well digital-soul...  

it was a surprise that Gregory would purposely leave Cassie to die like that, all because he didn’t want to be followed, which is why it be nice if there was more than one Gregory.

I guess we were suspecting Gregory to be secretly evil, and I guess if the player doesn’t zoom out when looking through the cameras and find out about those doors that need to be open, so you don’t have to return to the elevator when trying to escape from the Mimic...

when I do get the chance to download that DLC, I’m going to make sure to find those cameras and have those doors be open, cause I’m not having Gregory betray me or Cassie in my first time playing that DLC...

which might be a while, and I can just enjoy just watching the playthroughs for now until I can finally get the chance to play it.      

even if it might seem that the Rabbit Entity, is the enemy, but they might of been trying to stop Cassie, to keep her from the danger that was under the pizzaplex.

it might of turned out that it was a Prototype of Monty that had caused Glamrock Bonnie to no longer be part of the band, but what no one had suspect would happen, is that Glamrock Bonnie’s digital-soul would take the form of that entity that has been scaring Cassie...

we might not know much about that Rabbit Entity, and my theory about them being Bonnie could be wrong, but I’m going to view it as headcanon until then.

Vanny and Vanessa could turn out not to be the same, and Vanny might be Gregory’s Mom and it turning out that she is that Tape Girl.

and if Gregory’s Mom was free from the Mimic, that doesn’t mean Gregory was, and it could turn out that the Gregory with Gregory’s Mom, is another Mimic.

maybe Cassie will return in another FNAF game in the future.

there might be more to Gregory than we think, and it could turn out he is either a Afton or a Emily. well him being a Emily would mean he would take after Henry in solving a problem the wrong way...

and it could of been The Mimic that Henry Emily was talking to.

anyway, it might be possible that Gregory can’t be trusted, well at least the bad version of him can’t be trusted, and there could turn out there is two of him.

the Bad-Gregory is outside of the pizzaplex, and the Good-Gregory is trapped under the pizzaplex and has been trying to hide from the Mimic.

anyway maybe I can talk about this theory another time.

but I hope some like the theory about Glamrock Bonnie and the Entity being one and the same, but it’s also okay that not everyone agrees with it.                 

[walking-fnaf-encyclopedia]

sorry if this is a lot

1) is everyone a furry (I'll be assuming yes for the other questions)? if so what animal is everyone?

2) is Vanny a costume or a transformation like Cassie (assuming Vanessa isn't already a bunny)? If it's the latter then does that throw Gregory off cause how the hell would someone just swap what animal they are?

3) is Peepaw Mimic?

4) What is everyone's reaction to the mask?

5) are there any other masks or is it just Cassie's? are they different animals?

6) scale of 1-10, how unsavable is Elizabeth?

7) as far as I'm aware Golden Freddy never got burned, are they still around in the present?

8) does Cassie arson?

Yes, everyone is a furry! I prefer drawing/designing them and I like to use species symbolism for some characters! (But also, it's just fun!)

Vanny is a transformation! And correct, Vanessa is not a bunny (she's a lynx)! The VANNI Mask (Cassie's mask) was Vanny's first mask. The updated, all white mask she uses in Security Breach uses the same technology. Gregory doesn't.. really focus on Vanessa changing species (he's got other things to worry about, lol), but it's not that weird, to a degree. This isn't the first time this kind of tech has been used! Although, it's certainly safer (to a degree) now..

If by Peepaw you mean Burntrap or Glitchtrap, nope! Both are William's uploaded consciousness, if a bit warped.

Cassie tends to keep it tucked securely away and out of sight, actually. At the beginning, she doesn't really care that much about if it's seen, but even then, that's her only way back to her time, so she keeps it close to her chest. Although, most animatronics can't see it, just like they can't see Vanny. The Toys, the Funtimes, and any Foxy model can, but even then, it looks weird to them. Any other model, bar upgraded Glamrock Freddy, cannot see the mask or Cassie if she wears it. As for non-animatronics, most people would just think it's a decorative mask of some sort, like an art project or something! Anyone who recognizes it or it's tech though? ....Y'know, maybe it's better if Cassie just keeps it in her bag...

There are, of course, a few other masks. Of the same "generation" of masks, there are at least three total - Cassie's, Vanny's, and Dr. Rabbit's. These three are all bunny masks. Although, there is an earlier "generation" of these masks.. at least three. One of them was a rabbit, same as the newer ones, but their was also the rabbit's duo mask, a bear, and a sister location had a wolf mask. They were discontinued after multiple.. incidents. The wolf mask was never used.

Every single child that was killed is savable if Cassie has anything to say about it. And along the way, hopefully the other people who were fucked over can be helped by her, too.

Golden Freddy is still around in the present, but any interaction with it doesn't happen in the present. It's a tad busy with the real William down in hell.

Unfortunately, there is no real need for Cassie to arson.. No remnant. Maybe she'll get to set some stuff on fire, as a treat :]

[starry-pierrot]

Help Wanted 2 Ideas and Theories (spoilers)

I'm going to start this off by saying that I'll be disagreeing with a lot of theories I've seen around, but this is in no way meant to attack or invalidate those theories. At this point no one can claim anything as fact as the game in my opinion makes everything much more confusing and nothing has been actually confirmed.

But there are things we can talk about : 3

From here on out there will be ending spoilers and basic spoilers in general. And just another quick reminder these are just my thoughts and I'm in no way refuting other ideas or theories as if it's fact.

So I guess I'll start off with the one I've seen most.

There is a theory going around that we the player are a child, which just doesn't make much sense to me. I get where the idea came from, specifically from Sun calling us a child, but the rest of the game doesn't fit this narrative.

I've also seen people talk about how in Help Wanted (First one) that we were playing a game the whole which is true but the game itself was meant only for Fazbear employees. Not children. I personally chalk Sun's use of the word 'child' to either a writings mistake or that part of the game is actually a game and not at all real.

You see in HW2 we have two realties, the mask one and the real one and each side has their own games. The Arts and Crafts specific game has two versions, one being in the Mask Reality and the other being in Reality. We can tell the difference because one is in a very clean environment while the other seems to take place before Ruin.

So my problem with the child theory is that...it just wouldn't make sense. The program we are playing is again only meant for employees, the game I believe takes place just before Ruin (Sun's broken down, Roxy gets her mask in game, Chica is busted up). It's the in-between for the two games.

With this in mind what kid would be around the Ruined Pizzaplex and somehow managing to figure out and work said program to even play these games? Let alone getting down into the old location. The game starts off directly speaking to an employee and no one else besides Sun mentions anything about the player being a child.

So if we're not a kid-what are we? Well I have a few ideas. First the most usual answers to this could be Cassie's Dad, she speaks about him in the past tense meaning he's either already gone or could have left recently. Personally I'm not sure if i subscribe to this idea, it's not a bad one and I can see it fitting but I don't have any or seen any proof to this being the case.

Another idea is...that we are playing as a staff bot. And this isn't just because of the ending where a Mask Bot gives Cassie her mask it's that Fazbear has replaced almost all their employees with bots. Clearly the system is still up and running and you'd think that if some bot was supposed to go through the training, ended up surviving either the fire or earthquake (Not sure which is true) then it would just resume as if its a normal day once the shaking or fires stopped.

I don't know how much water that theory could hold.

But there's one more idea I had. Before in Ruin it was discovered that a backpack had been left behind with Gregory's name on it. Clearly there have been repeated returns to the pizzaplex (allegedly) so maybe we are playing as Vanessa. She would know how to operate the systems. I can see her going back to make sure that the Glitchtrap virus was fully gone.

We also know that Gregory was able to get into the systems so maybe they hacked a staff Bot and are playing remotely?

Not to mention the dialogue eluding to us looking like we would have a kid.

At this point I don't think the game gives us enough clues to really be sure what is going on and who we are actually playing as. There's a supposed DLC attached to the files so until we cover more things I would say who we are playing as is up in the air. ---------------------- Vanny Virus

Glitchtrap is dead. He's gone. Vanny quite literally squashed him and now the new big bad virus is Vanny.

Nothing really substantial here just wanted to write this part down.

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Sun's personality

Am I the only one who didn't quite see him as an asshole? I swear everyone just equated being sassy with being an ass.

We know how he was with Gregory, he was very kind and playful at first. But since we are playing with a program meant for staff only I suspect he's just sassy with the employees.

I still love him.

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Okay I've ran out of steam with this one but yeah! Those are basically my thoughts. Again I'm not posting this to attack anyone for their ideas, I'm just sharing my own thoughts like everyone else.

Feel free to reply and discuss!

[ender-afton]

Helloo- I'ma type out au ideas I have made cause yes u-u

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Wrenlilah: Delilah died by Springtrap pushing her into his suit, Getting springlocked, And now has spent many years with him. In the future, When William finally makes an illusion disc for him, Delilah asks for a "special" one, So she can appear as a twin sister of William, Wren. William agreed, And Delilah uses the illusion disc if she wants to roam around on her own

Random potential au ideas: Cassie is Elizabeth's soul - Gregory is a mix of CC and Michael's soul - Michael is still a corpse with only half of his soul still attached to it - Cassidy, Andrew, And Jeremy possess the Mimic - Vanessa is Clara's soul - Susie and Fritz are the princess - Vanny is Kerrigan - Glitchtrap/Burntrap is William, He gets an illusion disc to appear human, Gets back with Vanessa/Clara - Charlie and Henry possess Glamrock Freddy - Sammy possesses Glamrock Bonnie - Vanessa/Clara adopted Cassie/Elizabeth and Gregory/CC/Michael

1985 survival: William survived the springlock and Henry had to rush him to the hospital, Glitchtrap had infested by William at this time too because Cassidy created him to torture William since their plan to kill him failed. Glitchtrap ended up making William kill more people though so he was lured to the springlock suit and forced inside it by the spirits, Killed this time, Though Glitchtrap kept him just on the edge of life for this whole time

Future - It continues: William didn't change. Nor did Vanessa or Kerrigan. It's the same as my main just with the fact they kill.

Future - It continues (2): William didn't change. Nor did Vanessa or Kerrigan. It's the same as my main just with the fact they kill. Added Morra and Flare!

Future - Fighter kid: Mary was killed by Kerrigan. | 1983 - Fighter kid: Mary was the second victim of William's.

(SWAP) Future: Henry was the killer, He's changed. William doesn't forgive or like him. | (SWAP) Future - It continues: Henry didn't change, Nor Vanessa. William haunts Henry alongside Cassidy, Andrew, Elizabeth, Evan, Delilah, Cindy, Mary, And Kelsey

Mikevictim: Cassidy(Chica mask) was a very vengeful child, And always hated how Michael treated CC. So one day, She fought him, And had enough. So she brought him to Fredbear, And shoved his head in the mouth. Michael survived, Being the guard in SL, And CC died of a heartattack because of the nightmares seeing the event gave him. (Based on a cai rp)

(SWAP) Milevictim: Henry had 3 kids, Sammy(Foxybro), Michael(CC), And Charlie. Charlie died to Circus Baby, Michael died to Fredbear, Sammy became to SL guard

Vanbeth: (This most likely won't be used) ) If the hw2 Vanny ending is canon, Assuming that was Vanny getting rid of Glitchtrap from her life. Glitchtrap could look towards Elizabeth for "help", She'd agree, And the William and make her an illusion disc to appear as an adult, So she could work at the Pizzaplex, And go around as Vanny.

Millie Afton: Born either as Kerrigan's twin, Or the child Mrs. Dean had with a man she married after Michael died. She would have survived/escaped Funtime Freddy(Prototype) and survived untill she was 21, Dying on the job as a police officer.

Kerricent: Millie and Kerrigan at the same people. She survived Ft. Freddy(Prototype), Became a police officer, Had Vanessa, Before leaving the force and working alongside Vanessa in the future, Getting corrupted, And helping Glitchtrap while Vanessa was stuck as the princess.

Kerricent - The Quest: Everything is the same, Expect Vanessa isn't the princess and she is.

2006 - Fazbear Frights: Millie and Sarah are alive here, And it's really only them in this one. Millie survived Ft Freddy(Prototype) with the exchange of her parents life. Sarah had found Eleanor, But it won't be untill collage she wants to change her appearance fully. As of now, She has got Eleanor to change her body to be feminine (MTF) and that's it. Millie lives on her own, Her grandparents live nearby though and check on her every so often. Millie has a job and does mostly everything on her own, While her grandparents pay the bills to her parents house (They bought the house to Millie could stay there since she didn't want to leave and they worked out a solution). Millie would had died on duty, When she became a police (21 y/o), And Sarah would have died due to Eleanor (Used)

Clara = Funtime Chica: In this au, Clara possessed Funtime Chica after she died as Ballora wasn't created yet.

Clara = Funtime Chica & Ballora: Same thing, Expect after Ft Chica was decommissioned and Ballora was made, She went on to possess her

Past to future/Future to past: I was thinkin that Astrid could have orignally been in the past (2006), But since my world is connected with well, Magic n stuff, I could say she found a being with powers, And had them bring her and her family to the future (Where the story would actually take place)- BuT then I thought, Now I duno if this would somehow mess up the story cause Google is dumb and didn't tell if anything happened to Astrid due to Nexie- BuT- I was thinkin she could have been in the future orignally, And Nexie had powers, Bringing Astrid and her family to the past as some curse or somethin

Eleanor = Nexie (Future to past): Nexie is a form of Eleanor, Seeing as Eleanor "sort of" has powers? Even if it's just an illusion disc

Cassibeth: Elizabeth and Cassidy being the same people. Elizabeth died to Circus Baby and had her soul spilt so she also went onto possess Golden Freddy. And once she began seeing other souls, And found out their killer was her father, She became angry and vengeful towards him

Future to past (2): Nexie had a curse, And a few days after Astrid tried fixing Nexie, She was transported to the past !without! her family (2006). She was found by Millie and Millie took her in, Caring her for like an older sister would.

Marytrap: Mary(1983 AU) possesses Glitchtrap to get revenge for her death

MWD-trap: Mary, William, And Delilah possess Glitchtrap

[fairyhaven13]

Here’s the next character profile for my FNAF Silent Hill AU described here. This one is for Michael Afton, with both his “human” version (left) and what Silent Hill turned his remnant into (right.) The left one is based on the Pizza Simulator ads with the guy in the purple suit, because I like to headcanon that Henry forced Michael to make those ads while he grinned like he was dying inside. Which I guess he was.

Like before, here’s the short summary: He let Millie work at the Simulator diner, was very weirded out by her attitude towards everything, died when the diner burned, woke up in Silent Hill, and now is trying to keep it together while he herds the crazy morons around to catch his father and Vanny. The longer summary is under the cut.

Michael and Henry worked in tandem to set up the diner in order to catch the last vestiges of William and his creations. They had it all planned out, and then Millie showed up, calling herself Ophelia. At first, they thought she was a media spy, or a law enforcement agent, or a conspiracy vlogger--any number of meddling could ruin the plan, and they tried to make her leave. When she told them her family history, they both sympathized. They’d both lost family members to the Afton madness, and every one of their family members was now one of the robots they were trying to capture. 

Michael didn’t want Lia to end up like him, and still wanted her to leave. But, Henry was the boss, and Henry was more tired and apathetic with age; he wanted all the help they could get, and if the kid wanted to get herself killed to stop William, it was no hair off his chest. Michael didn’t like it, but had to listen.

He really didn’t like it when she started treating the robots like people. He warned her, he held her back, he even tried barring her from the security room completely. But, Helpy liked that she saw the others as more than just monsters, and helped her get around him. Michael kept coming into work to find one of the robots moved around or adjusted or otherwise doing something NOT IN THE PLAN and if he still had a beating heart, he would have definitely had a heart attack.

First she pried Puppet out of Lefty and put her in the Security Puppet box with a funny hat, and let her interact with the public! Michael wanted to put a stop to that, but Henry saw the ghost of his daughter being treated with kindness and let it go. Then Lia kept using Helpy and the audio lure to talk to Molten Freddy, like she knew him, like they were buddies, and what was up with that? He’d been burned before, when his sister tricked him into getting scooped, and he tried, he tried to warn Lia, but she just kept saying she was being careful, and Helpy kept helping her, and Henry didn’t care.

When Baby arrives, Michael is not happy about it, and tries harder than ever to keep Lia away. This time, she listens a little better, although she still uses the lure to have conversations with his robo-sister and that’s so stupid, it’s stupid, isn’t it? The way she keeps treating the monsters like people, like victims? The children inside were victims, but they weren’t the children, they were monsters. Only Springtrap is treated like a monster by Lia, but this is because the other robots have told her about what William did to them.

Then, then, then. She won’t leave. It’s the night of the explosion and she won’t go, she just keeps saying that she can’t leave her friends to die alone, and she’s including him in that, like he’s a friend, and then... and then she’s dead. They’re all dead.

And then they’re not.

Silent Hill is something of an awakening for him. They’re not in the real world anymore, they’re in another dimension. All of the Fazbear robots are, all of the monsters and the victims. There’s no more dodging the subject or avoiding the topic. There’s nothing left for him to do, to prove himself, to save the robots, to stop his father.

He really, really doesn’t want Lia to help Helpy and Funny save the other Funtimes, because he remembers being scooped. Now that he’s a purple ghoul, it’s hard not to. But, she does anyways, she always does. And, then she just kind of absorbs Ballora, and Helpy becomes Honey, and Looksy is revived, and Michael is at a loss. He goes with them through Lia’s memories and is just as shocked to see that Funny is Lia’s long-lost brother, and when they immediately try to become Best Buddy Siblings, it hurts.

Baby never did that. Baby knew that they were related, knew him, and still scooped him. She never said sorry, she never tried to be better, she never did what Funny did. All of Michael’s family is gone, and Lia has hers now, and it hurts. She tries to encourage Baby to be better, but she’s not really interested. However, Baby isn’t trying to kill any of them, which is... progress? He’s never actually held a conversation with her before, and he can now.

William’s disappearance revives him a bit. He has to stop his father, that’s something he knows how to do, knows how to focus on. Until he gets to where Vanny left Springtrap’s remnant behind, when she stole William’s body and left. All they find is Golden Freddy--his Cassie, his old friend--keeping William trapped in a pocket dimension of revenge (Ultimate Custom Night.) And William absolutely deserves it, Michael knows this better than anyone. But, Vanny is now out there, in the world, ready to restart all the torture and death.

For once, for once, Michael has to admit that Lia was right. The children are what’s important, their lives are more important than revenge. And so, he convinces Cassie to let go of being Golden Freddy, and let go of William, so that they can go after Vanny and save the world. He and Cassie know each other’s pain, and this ends up being closure for both of them. He still doesn’t love his father, but the hate doesn’t burn so bad, doesn’t make him sick inside. They tether William’s remnant to Plushtrap as Glitchtrap, and with the tether, they’re connected to his body and Vanny’s life.

Puppet, being the only sane and sensible one on the entire team, helps him focus on what they need to do to stop Vanny. Michael doesn’t trust himself not to rip Plushtrap apart, so he gives the toy to Lia and puts her in charge of Glitchtrap. They turn that section of Silent Hill in to their HQ, and start learning how to use Silent Hill’s connections to remnant to their advantage, and this is where FNAF Help Wanted and the upcoming games come in.

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This theory makes a lot more sense honestly, thanks for explaining it. I went through the tag but I wanna make sure I'm understanding it all correctly. So Cassie is the protagonist for the Lobby stuff, but all of the minigames are just staffbots? It makes a lot of sense, after all with the timeline jumping through different minigames, no way the protag was in the Pizzaplex during SB and Gregory just.. never saw them while they were serving food to staffbots for whatever reason. My only confusion with that is, isn't there that voice line during one of the food prep minigames saying "It's so simple, even a human can do it." I feel like that implies we're playing as a human, though to be fair the minigames clearly take place during a different time than the player in the lobby, so it's definitely possible for the minigames to just be for gameplay and not actually be things the player character goes through. I think this interpretation makes a lot of sense for the endings though. It's always felt like both endings could be canon but if both endings imply something bad happens to the player it wouldn't make sense for both to happen. But it makes a ton of sense the way you put it, the player goes through PQ4, but the Maskbot ending isn't the player. It's just showing Glitchtrap using the staffbots to turn Mapbot into Maskbot, to show it was planned out, like you said. It's not showing a person dying and becoming Maskbot, it's just showing Mapbot being reprogrammed. (Which also explains who did the whole "twisting their head pieces into rabbit ears" thing..) Overall it's a lot more coherent and gives a more clear timeline than most HW2 theories I've seen, so thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to write all this out. There's definitely implication for Cassie becoming the new Vanny, and this game leading into how she gets posessed would make a lot more sense honestly. I agree it has a lot more implication leading into these events than it just being some random guy causing this to happen. I am a bit confused as to how this would happen location-wise though. If Cassie gets dropped down the elevator, and the mimic encounter is already below the Pizza Sim location, then how did Cassie get back to that part of the Pizzaplex? Maybe I misinterpreted the ending but I felt like it was implying she gets dropped even deeper into the pizzaplex, into whatever location was below this one. I dunno, that's just a bit more speculation I guess. I think it could have a good setup for Vanessa protag in the next game too, which would be super cool. With the Candy Cadet story, if Vanny is going to take control over Cassie, then where would that leave Vanessa? If Gregory is going to get re-glitchtrapped, Cassie getting trapped by Vanny, I feel like that leaves room for Vanessa to be the protagonist since she'd be the only one free. Especially because if Gregory is under control again, he'd probably just hack Freddy again to go with him. (Coming up with this one on the spot so it may not fully make sense but) What if the Candy Cadet story is referring to Cassie and Gregory? With the real Gregory trying to help Cassie escape at the end of ruin, but with the mimic cutting the elevator and those two getting posessed in the end, not Gregory and Vanessa. I dunno! Overall I really like this theory and it'd be cool if it ended up being the canon interpretation. I hope I understood it correctly lol so let me know if there's any holes or anything I misinterpreted about your theory.

i saw some of your posts about being anti-cassie's dad protag for HW2, which valid, but the theory's become so popular most people seem to accept it. HW2 is kind of a mess to theorize about what the string of events was considering both endings could easily be canon, but I guess I'll get to the point. I'm sure most people have heard plenty of theories about what happens in the game if it's Cassie's Dad as the protagonist, so I'm curious. If you don't think it's him, who do you think is most likely? And (while this is difficult to figure out with any protag..) what do you think is supposed to be happening throughout the game, like, timeline-wise/plot-wise? Personally I feel like Cassie's Dad protag is possible, but I don't think it's set in stone or that he would be a reoccuring character. Imo Cassie's Dad protag works best if he stays a one-off character, building onto Cassie's backstory. I kinda wonder if the "what makes you so special?" lines aren't actually saying he's special, but asking what he thinks makes him special enough to go through all this and survive. Still I'm really curious to hear alternatives! I'm definitely not attatched to that theory lol. I just haven't really heard anything else tbh since the theory's so big in the fandom..

theres tons of evidence (a lot of it already used for cassie dad protag evidence) that apply to Cassie protag. for starters hw2 is obviously incredibly reminiscent of hw1 with its ending. vanny traps you somewhere and waves, the same way glitchtrap trapped you somewhere and waved in hw1s canon ending.

it's been widely accepted that vanny cassie is very possible and the direction the story is going in so playing as cassie in the lobby and going through princess quest and helping vanny and it being implied Vannys using the player as a vessel now the same way glitchtrap used vanessa to create vanny makes it very plausible we play as cassie

theres also the 'unused' line (but they all perfectly apply to the game as it is right now and add much needed context that make the game actually make sense) that's from presumably vanny, saying: "it kept you for a reason"

not only does the it pronoun 100% mean the mimic (and cassie is still down there in the same place where the mimic is literally free rn but alive) but it means that the mimic purposefully didnt kill cassie and also probably was the one to drop the evelator because it has a plan for her. aka the plan is getting vanny a new vessel so mimic can resume operations

the lobby itself also perfectly matches post ruin. you have the vanni mask on first of all, but second of all theres little items around the lobby that hint that you're cassie. like the robot parts strewn around that could imply cassie is trying to repair roxy (theres also the helpy screen)

as for "what makes you so special" I think people are misinterpreting the cassie ending as it being Cassies dad and not a staffbot. it literally shows you straight up that you get attacked by other staffbots and made into maskbot and give cassie the mask. if anything it shows us that Cassies arrival was planned and it's more evidence that we play as her becoming vanny. but its ALSO a perfect explanation for how confusing the minigames are in telling us who we play as

we literally play as a staffbot/mapbot. the minigames go from clean and fixed animatronics to gradually getting worse. even when the pizzaplex is clean and the animatronics are just a bit dirty, we've only seen that in sb. we play as a staffbot from pre sb, during sb, and post sb. "what makes you so special" what makes you so special compared to the other staffbots

it also explains why the animatronics are mean to you. staffbots are seen as useless hunks of junk and its shown all across the pizzaplex and in ruin as well when they're constantly shown discarded and destroyed.

freddy also says the line "you ARE a Fazbear technician, arent you? idk bc I can't see you". it means we literally arent a Fazbear technician. were a staffbot. and the same applies for carnies line about kids. its prerecorded and we're just a robot anyway

I have more posts about all this stuff individually but more in depth in my hw2 theory tag. this is what I genuinely think and I believe cassie is the protag for sure. it just feels so clear with how reminiscent hw2 is of hw1s ending tied with the clear plot of vanny cassie it's just like. why would we play as her dad when we watch ourselves get trapped by vanny the same way vanessa did right in front of our eyes.

we have the cassie ending because it shows us how maskbot got the mask and where it came from. it came from glitchtrap + by extension the mimic and vanny. vanny betrays glitchtrap at the end but also traps cassie in the process. the elevator dropped on cassie in ruin because the mimic did it on purpose to enact this plan. I think hw2 is more straightforward than ppl realize if you put everything together from what we have and dont try your hardest to put other characters in when the game is definitely about vanny cassie

like hw2 and ruin were made at the same time. they go hand in hand and reference eachother in the game, even before one of them was even out. the story is about cassie becoming vanny, the whole thing. this game is an intermission (the song scorched cranberries (the end credits song) is elevator music) showing us how the new villain/character thatll be big in the next plot was created. this is about cassie

maybe her dad will have the spotlight in hw2s dlc. idk. he has something going on but nothing in hw2 I dont think.