#Prince Carl Johan

[raincitygirl76]

What a great confession. My hypothesis is that Kristina’s youthful “unfortunate romance” was with Carl Johan Horn. And her father nixed it because marrying their first cousins was something royalty did back in the 19th century. The monarchy has evolved since the days of rampant inbreeding, and the fact that Kristina was in love with Carl Johan didn’t matter to her dad. Just like the fact that Wilhelm is in love with Simon doesn’t matter to Kristina now. Either that or Carl Johan, even in his youth, was already showing signs of addiction issues, and her dad nixed it because he thought his nephew was a bad choice for a son-in-law.

Regardless of the reason, and regardless of who the man was, Kristina was not allowed to marry her first love. He wasn’t suitable, for whatever reason. And eventually she persuaded herself that her parents disregarding her wishes was them demonstrating their love for her rather than them controlling every aspect of her life. And now she’s repeating that cycle on her own child.

My hypothesis is she had to marry someone, and breed within wedlock. It was her duty to the monarchy. So there was probably a shortlist of suitable aristocratic candidates. And Ludvig was the most tolerable guy on the shortlist, so she picked him.

Also, we mostly see Ludvig when he’s being a shitty father and completely zoning out in situations where he should be paying attention. But he is perfectly capable of being charming when he wants to. Look at the dinner scene in 2.06. He’s flirting with Kristina and making her giggle. Kristina, giggling. Not something we’ve seen her do before or since.

So no, I don’t think either Kristina or Ludvig were in love, I think it was a pragmatic match for both of them. But I do think he was the most charming, least boring, suitable aristocratic guy on the shortlist. She probably picked him because at least he can make her laugh. It’s just that twentysomething years of marriage later, Ludvig rarely bothers turning on the charm with her. But when he flirts with her, it still works.

I really hope we get to find out about Kristina's unfortunate romance. I think we will, and it will be a parallel to Wilmon (I am guessing she fell in love with a common boy as well), and some sort of bonding/humanising moment for her. I doubt the writers would have put it in otherwise. But ALSO I wanna find out more about her relationship with Ludvig. They seem so nonchalant (though cordial) towards each other, but are we gonna get some sort of redemptive "I married for politics and I live with Regret" thing for her, and it helps her built a better relationship with her son? *Clings to edge of seat*

[sflow-er]

Friday freebie

I had hoped to round off @youngroyals-events' August Week by finishing this vignette of him and Rousseau at Årnäs, but I couldn't quite manage it. So please enjoy a snippet instead!

Now, though, he's got the chance to restore their family, at least. With the settlement, he will give up his own plans for Årnäs to follow the plan made for him by the royal court. To become a working royal, an officer in the military, and when Parliament finalises it, an official heir to the throne. To himself, he will always be Count August Horn of Årnäs – a name that will carry the loss of his ancestral home until the end of his life. But to the rest of the world, he will be Prince August of the Royal House. Carl Johan will be father to the spare, very possibly even grandfather to the future monarch. August knows that can never fully make up for his failure as a son, but he hopes the trade-off will be acceptable.

[karlxivjohan]

By Our Royal Decree:

We are Charles XIV John, Sovereign Prince of Pontecorvo, Marshal of France (formerly), and more predominantly remembered as King of Sweden and Norway by the grace of God. Titles aside, We expect you lot to address Us as Charles John: While Our name may still hold some weight from the days of the Empire, it is Our royal title that reflects who we are now. Therefore, those unacquainted with Our earlier life should address Us as such.

Friends, of course, may conduct otherwise, though time has rendered Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte increasingly foreign to Our ears. Such familiarity is a privilege, not a right, and we are rather selective about granting it.

Having observed the activities on this peculiar platform for some time, We have decided to engage as even We are not above indulging in the occasional jest if it strikes Our fancy; if only to amuse Ourselves in quiet moments between more substantial endeavors. It is a curious thing, this "blog," and We must admit, the opportunity for correspondence suits Us well. The chance to meet others- be they familiar faces from Our past or wholly new acquaintances- is, We daresay, rather appealing.

We have opened Our correspondence for those wishing to inquire about matters ranging from Our career to Our philosophies. We shall do Our utmost to respond thoughtfully. A few notes before you proceed:

We do ask that you exercise civility in your correspondence. While We welcome spirited debate, We do not entertain hostility.

If you wish to speak of the intricacies of Our earlier life- We shall answer as We see fit. However, personal matters regarding Our family or past controversies may not always receive the same courtesy. There are limits to even Our patience. We will not tolerate unnecessary rudeness or those who feel the need to poke fun at Our decisions during Our tenure as a Marshal or as a monarch.

We value decorum and respect, this is not a tavern. Overly inappropriate questions will not be answered, that is the bottom line. A little wit or cheekiness is fine, but keep it tasteful.

Let it be known that We anticipate these exchanges with earnest interest and look forward to engaging with those who write.

By Our Hand and Seal,

Carl Johan

King of Sweden

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> The King of Sweden guys!! Did you know the guy barely even knew Swedish? He wouldn't even be able to comprehend his own countries theme song!! Anyways, totally be prepared for this whole kingly façade to crumble the moment Bernadotte has to deal with any of his former colleagues, because it can; and it will! God knows I'm not royal we'ing it up every single post. > I strive to make my portrayal as generally accurate and as true to his personality as possible, but this is not a historically accurate interpretation. GOD KNOWS its not, guys, my forte is Joachim Murat; but a man with an excessive amount of gasconade is a man with an excessive amount of gasconade. I'm actively learning stuff about Bernadotte as I go and we all know about how much character demolishing propaganda this man is buried in /hj > This blog is ran on EST / GMT-5

Tag directory ──

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#ces autres gars — Correspondence or exchanges with his former colleagues from the Napoleonic era.

#entre rois et figures d’histoire — Letters or responses directed to or from other historical figures of note.

#Proclamations de la Majesté Royale — His Majesty's important proclomations

#notes hors personnage — Out-of-character posts, fun facts, tidbits, the whole nine yards.

#reblogs royaux — Reblogs made in character.

#Kungens favorit — Responses from Magnus Brahe

Happenings ──

#Hemsökt — Bessières ghost edition harasses Bernadotte in his bedroom

++ Coming soon

[andiatas]

swedish royal (nick)names pt. 1

King Oscar II with family. Unknown painter, 1905.

I was talking with @foreverinthepagesofhistoryy the other day & we ended up on the topic of royal names & nicknames. Specifically how the Swedish Royal Family loves to Swedify names & how it can be difficult to differentiate who is who in the Bernadotte dynasty because everyone is called Karl/Carl or Gustaf/Gustav. This inspired me to make this series of what the royals' official names were vs. what they were actually called day-to-day. Plus other fun facts surrounding their names.

As you will notice when scrolling through this post, I've settled on a structure of: [if applicable, the name they were born with] / [the Swedish name] / [if applicable, the English name]

First generation

Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte / Karl XIV Johan / Charles XIV John

When Karl Johan was part of the French military, he was allegedly nicknamed Belle-Jambe. This is said to have been a nod towards his *cough* talent to charm women...

Then later when he became chosen as the Swedish Crown Prince, his name was Swedified. Jean became Johan & he adopted Karl as a nod towards his "adoptive father". His official name went down in history as Karl Johan but sometimes you see the spelling Carl Johan & Jean-Baptiste sometimes signed his new Swedish name as Charles-Jean (maybe because he never learned Swedish, who knows).

Désirée Clary / Desideria

While her given name was Désirée, all her friends & family seem to have been referring to her by one of her middle names: Eugénie.

It's said that Karl Johan's nickname for Desideria was Bonette, however, I've so far never been able to find a reliable source for this claim.

After her husband was named heir to the Swedish throne, she stayed in Paris "incognito" under the name Grevinnan av Gotland (Countess of Gotland).

Second generation

Oscar I / Oskar I

Here we see a classic case of Swedification. The man himself & his contemporaries wrote his name as Oscar. However, the Swedish Royal Court today has gone with the Swedish version of Oskar.

Joséphine de Beauharnais / Josefina / Josephine of Leuchtenberg

While her official name has gone down in history as Josefina, contemporary accounts referred to her as Josefine - a name that is still popular today.

Just like her mother-in-law, Josefina travelled incognito via an alias. Hers was Grevinnan av Tullgarn (Countess of Tullgarn).

One of her philanthropic legacies is Josephinahemmet, an elderly home for Catholics. So as you guys can see, people have never been able to agree on how this woman's name should be spelled.

Third generation

Karl XV / Charles XV

Commonly referred to as the most popular monarch of all times, Karl was apparently so beloved by the people that he got the nickname Kron-Kalle (Crown-Charlie).

However, while he is remembered as Karl, he himself spelt it as Carl.

Louise van Oranje-Nassau / Lovisa / Louise of the Netherlands

Born as Louise, she got the official name of Lovisa upon arriving in Sweden. However, it seems like she continued using her childhood name & just like with her mother-in-law, some contemporaries settled on a compromise by referring to her as Louisa (see for example Eugenia).

Gustaf

Gustaf has gone down in history as Sångarprinsen (the Singer Prince), however, his pseudonym as a composer was G*****.

Oscar II / Oskar II

Just like his father, people haven't been able to agree on how to spell his name. He himself & his contemporaries used Oscar but it's common to see the Swedified version of Oskar.

Oscar loved to participate in the political debate & did so "anonymously" under the pseudonyms O**** & Oscar Fredrik.

Sophia von Nassau / Sofia

While she was born as Sophia & then was given the Swedified version Sofia as her official name, she herself used the name Sophie throughout her entire life & was lovingly called Tante Sophie by the entire Royal Family.

It's said that her brothers jokingly called her "unsere demokratische schwester" (our democratic sister).

Two of her philanthropic legacies are Sophiahemmet (which today, another Sofia is patron of) in Stockholm & Sophies minde in Oslo.

Eugénie / Eugenia

This woman is interesting because her official & given name is Eugenia but both she & her contemporaries seem to have used Eugénie. On the Swedish Royal Court's website, she is referred to by both versions of her name & I've noticed a trend over the last few years that more & more she's mentioned as Eugénie rather than Eugenia.

Just like her older brother Gustaf, Eugenia was a composer & used the pseudonym E******. While not as well-known as her brother, she did write, for example, two pieces in the 1850s named "Drottning Josephinas polonaise" & "Louisa Wals", in 1860s she & her mother wrote the piece "Ach, wie schön die Glocken klingen" together (music by Eugenia & text by Josefina), then in 1871 she composed as piece in remembrance of "Louisa".

August

Finally, someone whose name everyone can agree on! I also can't find any mention of him ever earning a nickname...

Thérèse von Sachsen-Altenburg / Teresia

While her official name is Teresia, she was born Thérèse & it seems like friends & family continued to call her that even after she moved to Sweden.

Teresia most likely suffered from some type of mental illness, but back then she was just described as "unbalanced" & "stupid". This caused her to mockingly get called "Lilla hoppitossan" (little Hopsy-Totsie) by everyone, including her husband, at the Royal Court.

From the 1890s onwards, things seemed to get better for Teresia & she moved into Haga Palace, thus earning her the nickname Hagahertiginnan (the Haga Duchess).

Part 2 with the fourth, fifth & sixth generation will be published soon!

[hoppityhopster23]

On Frederick VI's Childhood.

(I will start with a quick note that I'm writing about him before his regency began in 1784.)

The start of Fredericks's Life was rough, and for at least two years of his life, he was raised in a method that in the 21st century would be considered neglect, if not child abuse. However, it's also believed to have created his notable gruff, hardened, and stubborn personality.

He was born to King Christian VII and Queen Caroline Mathilde in 1768. Both were under 20 years old at the time, being 19 and 16 respectively. Christian VII was so uninterested in his queen that his aides had to step in in order for there to be an heir. That being said, before her affair, she was a relatively doting mother to the then Crown Prince Frederick.

Things did change when he was about 2 years old. Struensee, Physician to the mentally ill king and the lover of the queen (possible father of the Crown Prince's sister) rose to power and became the de facto ruler of the country from the years 1770 to 1772, when Frederick was 2-4 years old.

Both Struensee and the Queen believed Frederick to be weak, so his "education" was relatively harsh. He was raised in Hirschholm Palace, and the way he was brought up, based on Rosseau's work, Émile, ou De l’éducation, was neglectful and abusive for him and his companion, a commoner boy named Carl. The boys were treated equally and left to their own devices, and servants were not allowed to help or even speak to them. This meant that they had to deal with disputes on their own. It was to the point where the boys had to help each other dress and undress.

The crown prince could only bathe in Ice baths, and eat cold fruit, bread, milk, rice, and potatoes. They weren't given candles, even in the short winters, and their rooms were left unheated. They were also forced to go barefoot and wear thin clothing; They were also given thin blankets, year around. It has been said that the Crown Prince was cold to the point where he had chill blains.

This isn't even the worst of it. Both boys never knew when they were going to eat, and the Crown prince, who had difficulties walking up staircases, was forced to practice by having a set of stairs built in the boys' room, where they would put his food atop it, and he had to climb up them to eat. He was not helped when he fell down said stairs.

This child-rearing method likely gave him rickets, stunted his growth, and made it so could not speak properly for his age. But it was effective. Struensee and the Queen wanted a tougher crown prince, and they got it; the treatment made the 4-year-old crown prince a hard and merciless child. (I will say this does calm a little later in life, as he was kind to his people and family.)

Fortunately for the little crown prince, in 1772, Struensee was accused of an assortment of crimes and beheaded. The Queen was not safe either, being exiled to the city of Celle. The dowager queen, Frederick's step-grandmother took over with her son (Frederick's half-uncle) and replaced Struensee. This led to yet another life change for the young crown prince. Despite having a terrible relationship with the dowager queen, who wanted her biological son on the throne, he was still treated much better than before.

For about a year and a half, Frederick had a nanny named Margrethe Numsen, who cared for him. He was greatly fond of her, going so far as to call her Mutter. I've found multiple reasons for her quick departure from Fredericks's life; It varies from her losing the favor of the dowager queen to those in charge believing the crown prince is best taught by men.

This then led to the boy being put under the care of a handful of men, the most notable being his Chamberlain, Johan Bülow. Bülow not only took care of him but even went so far as to secretly teach him foreign languages. He also slept next to the prince to watch over him and often saw his frequent nightmares and nightly anxiety attacks. He also established a small vegetable garden at Fredensborg that he and Frederick took care of.

Generally speaking, it is said that he was still clumsy with the stairs, and often got into fights with playmates, which led to him being isolated from people his age. He had a preference for war toys and disliked reading, only ever doing so when he was forced to. It is also said that the Crown prince was not intellectually gifted, but spoke like a grown man before he was of confirmation age.

Sources:

Margrethe Marie Thomasine Numsen

Caroline Matilda of Great Britain

Frederick VI of Denmark

Frederik VI by Jens Gunni Busck

[charlotte-of-wales]

Royal Tiaras Highlights: Swedish Six Button Tiara

The buttons used in this tiara were initially attached to the crown worn by King Carl XIV Johan, who was born Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, at his coronation in 1818. He was the first king of the Bernadotte house. The buttons might have been in the family for 200 years, the tiara was created around the time Princess Lilian married Prince Bertil, apparently for her use. The piece was frequently worn by Lilian and nowadays it can be usually seen on Crown Princess Victoria or Princes Christina.

ps: if you look closely you’ll notice the two buttons at the ends are different than the 4 central ones.

[theroyalfanzine]

Royal Godparents to Royal Godchildren

I did this list back in 2012, and got some great responses. I've updated and edited parts of the list. Again, any corrections and/or adds, message me! Thanks in advance!

When choosing godparents for their children, the parents often chose friends or other relatives. Often in royal circles, royals also pick other royals. Here’s a partial list. (Yes, I know some lists are incompelte as some of these royals’s godchildren are not royals themselves.) If you have any additions, please feel free to message me!

Belgium

King Baudouin I

Princess Marie-Christine of Belgium (1951)

King Leopold III

Princess Beatrix of The Netherlands (1938)

Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxembourg (1954)

King Philippe of The Belgians (1960)

Queen Astrid

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner (1932)

King Albert II

Princess Marie-Esméralda of Belgium (1956)

Queen Paola

Prince Amedeo of Belgium, Archduke of Austria-Este (1986)

King Philippe

Prince Amedeo of Belgium, Archduke of Austria-Este (1986)

Princess Marie Gabrielle de Nassau (1986)

Queen Matilde

Princess Alexia of The Netherlands (2005)

 Princess Isabella of Denmark (2007)

Princess Astrid, Archduchess of Austria-Este

Prince Sébastien of Luxembourg (1992)

Prince Amedeo, Archduke of Austria-Este

Princess Elisabeth of Belgium, The Duchess of Brabant (2001)

Princess Claire

Princess Eléonore of Belgium(2008)

Prince Lorentz, The Archduke of Austria-Este

Prince Carl-Johan de Nassau (1992)

Bulgaria

Queen Margarita

Prince Umberto of Bulgaria (1999)

Konstantin-Assen, Prince of Vidin, Duke of Saxony

   Infanta Sofia of Spain (2007)

Princess Rosrio

Doña Irene de Todos los Santos Urdangarín y de Borbón (2005)

Denmark

Queen Ingrid

 Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon  (1930)

King Carl XVI of Sweden (1946)

King Christian X

Princess Benedikte of Denmark, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (1944)

Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (1946)

Queen Alexandrine

Princess Benedikte of Denmark, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (1944)

Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (1946)

Princess Dagmar

Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (1946)

Princess Thyra

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner (1932)

King Fredrick IX

King Carl XVI of Sweden (1946)

Queen Margarethe II

King Williem-Alexander of The Netherlands (1967)

Crown Prince Hakon of Norway (1973)

Prince Carl Phillip of Sweden (1979)

Crown Prince Fredrick of Denmark

 Count Nikolai af Monzepat (1999)

Countess Ingrid Alexandra Irma Astrid Benedikte von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth (2003)

 Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway (2004)

Prince Oscar Carl Olof of Sweden, Duke of Skane (2016)

Crown Princess Mary

Count Henrik af Monzepat (2009)

Konstantin Gustav Heinrich Richard Johannsmann (2010)

Princess Estelle of Sweden (2012) 

Prince Christian

Prince Gustav Alberct of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleberg (2023)

Princess Marie

Princess Josephine of Denmark (2011)

Princess Caroline-Mathilde

Princess Benedikte of Denmark, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (1944)

Princess Elisabeth

Theodor Christian Emmanuel Rosanes af Rosenborg (2009)

Princely Family of Lieiningen

Princess Alexandra

Princess Alexandra Charlotte Ulrike Maryam Virgina of Hanover (1999)

Princely Family of Hanover

Princess Sophie of Hanover

Prince Edward, The Duke of Edinburgh (1964)

Princely Family of Hesse

Prince Philipp

Count Friedrich Richard Oscar Jefferson  von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth (1999)

Princely Family of Waldeck and Pyrmont

Princess Elisabeth

Princess Beatrix of The Netherlands (1938)

Princely Family of Liechtenstein

Prince Constantin

Prince Georg Antonius of Liechtenstein (1999)

Princess Margaretha

Archduke Imre of Austria (1985)

Princess Louise of Belgium (2004)

Princely Family of Monaco

Prince Albert

Baron Jean-Leonard Taubert-Natta (1974)

Pierre Rainier Stefano Casiraghi (1987)

Louis Robert Paul Ducruet (1992)

Pauline Grace Maguy Ducruet (1994)

Raphaël Casiraghi Elmaleh (2013)

Princess Charlene

Raphaël Casiraghi Elmaleh (2013)

Princess Caroline of Hanover

Louis Robert Paul Ducruet (1992)

Pauline Grace Maguy Ducruet (1994)

Princess Stephanie

Andrea Albert Pierre Casiraghi (1984)

Charlotte Marie Pomeline Casiraghi

Princess Alexandra Charlotte Ulrike Maryam Virgina of Hanover (1999)

Baroness Elisabeth Anne de Massy

Princess Stephanie of Monaco, Countess of Polinac (1965)

The Netherlands

Queen Juliana

King Carl XVI of Sweden (1946)

Queen Anne-Marie of Denmark (1946)

King Williem-Alexander

Count Claus-Casmir van Orange-Nassau, Jonkheer van Amsberg (2004)

Countess Zaria of Oranje-Nassau (2006)

Princess Estelle of Sweden (2012)

 Prince Constantijn

Princess Catharina-Amalia of The Netherlands, The Princess of Orange (2003)

Countess Luana of Orange-Nassau, Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg (2005)

Prince Friso

Countess Eloise van Orange-Nassau, Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg (2002)

Princess Alexia of the Netherlands (2005)

 Norway

King Haakon VII

Princess Ragnhild, Mrs. Lorentzen (1930)

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner (1932)

Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (1946)

Queen Maud

Princess Ragnhild, Mrs. Lorentzen (1930)

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner(1932)

King Olav V

Princess Margriet Francisca of the Netherlands (1943)

King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden (1946)

Princess Märtha Louise of Norway (1971)

Crown Princess Martha

Crown Princess Martha

Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (1946)

King Harald

Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden (1977)

Maud Angelica Behn (2003)

Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway (2004)

Queen Sonja

Prince Sverre Magnus of Norway (2005)

Crown Prince Hakkon

Maud Angelica Behn (2003)

Prince Christian of Denmark (2005)

Princess Estelle of Sweden(2012) 

Crown Princess Mette-Mairt

  Prince Christian of Denmark (2005)

  Emma Tallulah Behn (2008)

Princess Märtha Louise

Count Friedrich Richard Oscar Jefferson  von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth (1999)

Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway (2004)

Princess Ragnhild, Mrs. Lorentzen

Princess Märtha Louise of Norway (1971) 

Spain

Queen Victoria Eugenia

Infante Juan, Count of Barcelona (1913)

Doña María del Rosario Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart y Silva, 18th Duchess of Alba de Tormes, Grandee of Spain (1926)

Queen Fabiola of Belgium (1928)

Prince Albert of Monaco (1957)

Felipe, Prince of Austrias (1968)

King Juan Carlos

Don Felipe Juan Froilán de Todos los Santos de Marichalar y Borbón (1998)

Leonor, The Princess of Asturias (2005

Queen Sofia

Leonor, The Princess of Asturias (2005)

King Felipe VI

Princess Sofia Vidinska of Bulgaria (1999)

Doña Victoria Federica de Todos los Santos de Marichalar y de Borbón (2000) 

Prince Vincent of Denmark (2011)

Infanta Elena

Don Juan Valentín de Todos los Santos Urdangarín y de Borbón (1999)

Prince Achileas-Andreas of Greece (2000)

Infanta Christina

Don Miguel de Todos los Santos Urdangarín y de Borbón (2002)

Iñaki, the former Duke of Palma de Mallorca

Don Miguel de Todos los Santos Urdangarín y de Borbón (2002)

Infanta Maria Cristina

Princess Marie-Christine of Belgium (1951)

Infanta Cristina, Duchess of  Palma de Mallorca (1965)

Princely Family of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg

Gustav, 7th Prince of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg

Count Friedrich Richard Oscar Jefferson von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth (1999)

Konstantin Gustav Heinrich Richard Johannsmann (2010)

Prince Vincent of Denmark (2011)

Carina, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleberg

Countess Athena af Monzepat

Princess Nathalie of Sayn-Witentein-Berleburg

Countess Ingrid Alexandra Irma Astrid Benedikte von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth (2003)

Princess Benedikte

Prince Joachim of Denmark (1969)

Princess Madeleine of Sweden, Duchess of  Hälsingland and Gästrikland (1981)

Royal Family of Italy

Prince Carlo, Duke of Castro

Princess Joesphine of Denmark (2011)

Greece

Queen Olga

Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh (1921)

Prince George

Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (1946)

King Constantine II

Prince Constantijn of the Netherlands (1969)

Prince William of Wales (1982)

Crown Prince Pavlos

Prince Christian of Denmark (2005)

Prince Sverre Magnus of Norway (2005)

Princess Alexia

Don Pablo Nicolás Sebastián de Todos los Santos Urdangarín y de Borbón (2000)

Countess Ingrid Alexandra Irma Astrid Benedikte von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth (2003)

Princess Isabella of Denmark (2007)

Emma Tallulah Behn (2008)

Prince Nikolas

Count Friedrich Richard Oscar Jefferson  von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth (1999)

Grand Ducal Family of Luxembourg

Grand Duchess Charlotte

Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxembourg (1954)

Grand Duchess Josephine-Charlotte (1927-2005)

Princess Astrid of Belgium, Archduchess of Austria-Este (1962)

Prince Felix (1893-1970)

Prince Albert of Belgium (1934)

Princess Margaretha of Luxembourg (1957)

Prince Jean of Luxembourg (1957)

Princess Marie-Gabrielle (1925)

Grand Duke Henri (1955)

Prince Jean (1957-)

Prince Félix of Luxembourg (1984)

Grand Duchess Joesphine-Charlotte

Princess Marie-Esméralda of Belgium (1956)

Princess Astrid of Belgium, Archduchess of Austria-Este (1962)

Grand Duke Henri

King Albert II of Belgium (1934)

Princess Marie-Gabrielle of Luxembourg (1986)

Guillaume, Hereditary Grand Duke

Prince Sébastien of Luxembourg (1992)

Prince Paul-Louis of Luxembourg (1998)

Prince Noah of Nassu (2007)

Princess Ariane of the Netherlands (2007)

Princess Alexandra

Prince Gabriel de Nassau  (2006)

Prince  François Henri Louis Marie Guillaume of Luxembourg (2023)

Prince Louis

Prince Charles Jean Philippe Joseph Marie Guillaume of Luxemborug (2020)

 Princely Family of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Hohenstein

Prince Georg of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Hohenstein

Countess Ingrid Alexandra Irma Astrid Benedikte von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth (2003)

Sweden

King Gustaf V

Princess Ragnhild, Mrs. Lorentzen (1930)

King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden (1946)

Princess Benedikte of Denmark, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (1944)

Prince Carl of Sweden & Norway (1861-1951)

Princess Ragnhild, Mrs. Lorentzen (1930)

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner (1932)

Prince Eugen of Sweden & Norway (1865-1947)

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner (1932)

Princess Ingeborg of Sweden & Norway (1878-1958)

Princess Ragnhild, Mrs. Lorentzen (1930)

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner (1932)

Princess Margaretha of Sweden & Norway

Princess Benedikte of Denmark, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (1944)

Princess Margaretha of Luxembourg (1957)

Princess Margaretha (1899-1977)

Prince Jean of Luxembourg(1957)

Princess Ingeborg

Princess Benedikte of Denmark, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (1944)

King Carl XVI Gustav

Hakon, Crown Prince of Norway (1973)

Crown Princess Victoria

 Prince Constantine Alexios of Greece & Denmark (1998)

 Baroness Madeleine von Dincklage (1999)

 Princess Catharina-Amalia of the Netherlands (2003)

 Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway (2004)

 Prince Christian of Denmark (2005)

 Princess Eléonore of Belgium (2008)

Princess Leonore Lilian Maria of Sweden, The Duchess of Gotland (2014)

Prince Alexander Erik Hubertus Bertil of Sweden, The Duke of Södermanland (2016)

Prince Carl Phillip

Princess Estelle of Sweden, The Duchess of Ostergotland  (2012) 

Prince Nicolas of Sweden, Duke of Ångermanland (2015)

Princess Madeleine

Prince Oscar Carl Olof of Sweden, The Duke of Skane (2016)

 Prince Gabriel Carl Walter of Sweden, The Duke of Dalarna (2017)

Princess Christina

 Prince Joachim of Denmark (1969)

Princess Désirée, Baroness Silfverschiöld

Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden (1977)

Prince Bertil, Duke of Halland

Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (1946)

Prince Carl Phillip of Sweden (1979)

Princess Birgitta

Prince Carl Phillip of Sweden (1979)

Princess Margaretha

Princess Märtha Louise of Norway (1973)

Mr. Gustaf Magnusson

Prince Nicolas Paul Gustaf of Sweden, The Duke of Angermanland (2015)

Mr. Victor Magnusson

Prince Alexander Erik Hubertus Bertil of Sweden, Duke of Södermanland (2016)

United Kingdom

Queen Victoria

Prince Albert Edward Kamehameha of Hawaiʻi (1858–1862)

Prince Alfred Alexander William Ernest Albert of Edinburgh, later Hereditary Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1874–1899)

Princess Alice Mary Victoria Augusta Pauline of Albany (1883–1981)

Prince Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David of York, later Edward VIII (1894–1972)

Prince Albert Frederick Arthur George of York, later George VI (1895–1952)

Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia (1895–1918)

Princess Victoria Alexandra Alice Mary of York (1897–1965)

Prince Louis Francis of Battenberg, later 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma (1900–1979)

King George V

Queen Elizabeth II (1926) 

Queen Mary

Queen Elizabeth II (1926)  

Princess Margriet Francisca of the Netherlands (1943)

Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (1946)

Mary, Princess Royal and Countess of Harewood

Princess Elizabeth Alexandra Mary of York, later Elizabeth II (1926)

Prince Edward George Nicholas Patrick Paul, The Duke of Kent (1935)

Prince George, The Duke of Kent

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner (1932)

King Edward VIII

 Princess Margaret of York  (1930)

Princess Alice, Countess of Athlone

Princess Beatrix of The Netherlands (1938)

Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught

Princess Elizabeth of York (1926)  

Princess Mary, Viscountess Lascelles

Princess Elizabeth of York (1926)  

The Princess Victoria

 Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon  (1930)

Princess Ragnhild, Mrs. Lorentzen (1930)

King George VI

Princess Ragnhild, Mrs. Lorentzen (1930)

Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother

Prince Alexander of Yugoslavia (1924)

Gerald David Lascelles Esq (1924–1998)

Princess Astrid of Norway (1932)

Princess Alexandra of Kent (1936)

Princess Sofia of Greece, later Queen of Spain (1938)

Princess Irene of the Netherlands (born 1940)

Prince William Henry Andrew Frederick of Gloucester (1941–1972)

Princess Benedikte of Denmark, Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (1944)

Prince Richard of Gloucester, later Duke of Gloucester (1944)

Princess Anne of Edinburgh (1950)

The Hon (Robert) Jeremy Lascelles (1955)

Queen Elizabeth II

David Henry George Lascelles, 8th Earl of Harewood (1950)

Princess Fredrike of Hanover (1954) 

David Albert Charles Armstrong-Jones, Viscount Linley (1961)

Edwina Victoria Louise Brudenell (1961)

James Robert Bruce Ogilvy (1964)

Princess Theodora of Greece & Denmark (1983)

Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon

King Charles III (1948)

Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh

Crown Princess Margareta, Custodian of the Crown of Romania (1948)

Norton Louis Philip Knatchbull, 8th Baron Brabourne (1947)

Princess Maria Tatiana of Yugoslavia (1957)

Prince Christopher of Yugoslavia (1960)

 George Windsor, Earl of St. Andrews (1962)

 Prince Philippos of Greece and Denmark (1986)

King Charles III

The Hon. Nicholas Knatchbull (1964-1979)

The Hon.  Timothy Knatchbull (1964)

Marina Victoria Alexandra Ogilvy (1966)

 Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece (1967)

 India Amanda Caroline Hicks (1967)

 Lord Nicholas Windsor (1970)

 Alexander Patrick Gregers Richard Windsor, Earl of Ulster (1970)

The Hon. Edward John Hugo Tollemache (1975) 

Peter Mark Andrew Phillips (1977)

 The Hon. Nicholas Louis Charles Norton Knatchbull (1981)

Hugh Grosvenor, The Duke of Westminster (1991)

Lord Frederick Charles Wellesley(1992)

 Princess Maria-Olympia of Greece & Denmark (1996)

Samuel David Benidict Chatto (1996)

 Kumar Padmanabh Singh, Crown Prince of Jaipur (1998)

Diana, Princess of Wales

The Lady Edwina Louise Grosvenor (1981)

Alexandra Victoria Edwina Diana Knatchbull (1982)

Prince Philippos of Greece and Denmark (1986)

Jakie James Warren (1986)

The Lady Mary Luise Wellesley (1986)

Edward Edmund Maximilian George Windsor, Lord Downpatrick (1988)

Jack William Bartholomew (1989)

Benjamin Peter Marcus Samuel (1989)

Domenica Marianna Tertia Lawson (1995)

The Prince William, The Prince of Wales

Prince Constantine-Alexios of Greece & Denmark (1998)

Mia Grace Tindall (2014)

The Prince Andrew, The Duke of York

Zara Anne Elizabeth Phillips Tindall (1981)

Prince Henry, The Duke of Sussex (Prince Harry, 1984)

The Prince Edward, The Duke of Edinburgh

The Lady Rose Gilman (1980)

Lady Ella Mountbatten (1996)

Count Nikolai af Monzepat (1999)

Sophie, The Duchesss of Edinburgh, The Countess of Wessex

Lady Alexandra Mountbatten (1998)

Anne, The Princess Royal

 Philip, Hereditary Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (1970)

Haakon, Crown Prince of Norway (1973)

Prince Peter of Yugoslavia (1980)

Princess Eugenie, Mrs. Jack Brooksbank

Maud Daphne Marina Windsor (2013)

Zara Anne Elizabeth Tindall

Prince George Alexander Louis of Wales (2013)

David Armstrong-Jones, The 2nd Earl Snowdon

Princess Beatrice Elizabeth Mary, Mrs. Edoardo Mapelli (1988)

The Lady Sarah Chatto

The Lady Rose Gilman (1980)

Prince Henry of Wales (1984)

Lady Louise Alice Elizabeth Mary Mountbatten-Windsor (2003)

Princess Michael of Kent

Princess Maria Chiara Amalia Carola Louise Carmen of Bourbon-Two Sicilies (2005)

Katharine, Duchess of Kent

Prince Edward, The Duke of Edinburgh (1964)

Princess Alexandra of Kent, The Hon. Lady Ogilvy

George Windsor, The Earl of St Andrews (1962)

The Prince William of Wales (1982)

James Robert Bruce Ogilvy

Princess Eugenie Victoria Helena, Mrs. Jack Brooksbank (1990)

[world-of-wales]

Happy 40th Birthday to Princess Madeleine of Sweden!

Born on 10 June 1982, Princess Madeleine Thérèse Amelie Josephine is the third and youngest child of King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia. Currently Madde is eighth in line to the succession to the Swedish throne.

Madeleine was given the title of Duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland. It was the first time since the early 17th century that a Swedish ducal title included more than one province.

She was christened at the Royal Palace church on 31 August 1982. Her godparents being Princess Benedikte of Denmark, Prince Andreas of Sachsen Coburg and Gotha, Princess Christina, Mrs Magnuson and Mr Walter L. Sommerlath. She was confirmed at Vadstena Abbey in August 1997.

She graduated from Enskilda in 2001 and then went on to graduate from Stockholm University with a Bachelor of Arts in art history, ethnology and modern history. She continued her master's studies at the School of Social Work completed a university course in child psychology in the autumn.

On 8 June 2013, Princess Madeleine married Mr Christopher O'Neill at the Royal Chapel at the Royal Palace. Madde and Chris have three children - Princess Leonore (b. 2014), Prince Nicolas (b. 2015) and Princess Adrienne (b. 2018)

Princess Madeleine is a patron of the organisation Min Stora Dag and also works with Europa Nostra, Carl Johan-League and the Royal Motorboat Club.

Her work heavily revolves around working with children, she interned for UNICEF for six months in New York City and worked for the division of Child Protective Services. In 2015, she initiated the #EyesWideOpen campaign to increase the awareness about the sexual abuse of children. Madeleine works closely with the World Childhood Foundation and became its Honorary Vice Chair in December 2021. She also released her first book titled Stella och hemligheten (Stella and the Secret) in support of the Foundation in 2019.

Currently Princess Madeleine and her family reside in Florida. However, In March 2023, it was announced that they would move back to Sweden in August 2023.

[frogprincesnowglobe]

Ultimate Young Royals Character Tournament

Sara Eriksson VS August Horn of of Årnäs

Sara Eriksson: First year student in Manor house at Hillerska boarding school. Loves horses. Really loves horses. Simon's sister. They were close. Real close. But she has her eye on the prize and that prize is climbing a few rungs higher on the social ladder. Loves Horses. Did I mention she loves horses? Loves Rousseau (he's a horse). Friends with Felice. Once betrayed her brother by not telling him she knew who took and leaked the explicit video of him that was taken through a window without his knowledge. Once betrayed him worse by sleeping with the guy who took leaked the explicit video of him that was taken through a window without his knowledge.

August Horn of Årnäs: Third year student in Forest Ridge house at Hillerska boarding school. Second cousin to Wille and Erik. His dad Carl Johan Horn of Årnas was Queen Kristina's cousin. Very high strung. Grieving. Looks good in turtlenecks. Addicted to ADHD meds. Anxious. Exercises too much. Once ate a whole leaf of kale. He has his eye on the prize and that prize is climbing many rungs higher on the social ladder. Currently backup to Crown Prince Wilhelm. Was prefect but isn't now. Was Captain of the rowing team, also isn't now. Currently avoiding Crown Prince Wilhelm. Gets soft around Sara. Once patted a horse's nose. Once promised his loyalty to the crown and then took and leaked an explicit video of the Crown Prince and his boyfriend that he took through a window without their knowledge.

[bluedalahorse]

I’d love to read fic (and maybe it already exists, rec it to me if you know about it) that explores August’s relationship to traditions and rituals in good faith. Particularly if those fics build on the questions raised in season 3, where August is starting to reflect on how his initiation harmed him and the other third years.

Part of the reason I find August interesting—dare I say relatable at times—is his relationship to traditions. How they give him a sense of belonging, and how when he’s at the top, he’s emotionally invested in continuing that sense of belonging for others. Caveat: especially early on, those “others” are a narrow group of elite, so that makes him insufferable, even harmful. I think what makes him compelling anyway is that we know at one point he wasn’t always the leader of tradition at Hillerska, that at one point he was a scared kid looking for a way to belong. Tradition became August’s lifeline in a way that it never did for Wilhelm, who felt stifled by it and always wanted to break away. I’ve been in Wilhelm’s shoes at points of my life, where I’m like fuck this place, but I’ve also been in August’s shoes where I’m like fuck this place but also it feels like home and I’m afraid of what leaving would mean.

I’m curious about how August’s relationship to tradition might change after season 3, with him stepping into the crown prince role. Theoretically he’ll be trying to lead traditions for a whole country and not just a group of rich boys on the rowing team, and I think he’s smart enough to know that looks different. After the emotional fallout of season 3 and him revisiting the trauma of his first year, he might also want it to look meaningfully different, but will the people around him lead him in that direction?

And I also wonder like, what that looks like when he’s theoretically being mentored by Kristina. What’s Kristina’s relationship to tradition? We see her as its staunch defender through much of the show, but what happened in her teenage years? Does she have a trauma bond with tradition like August does? I’m sure she does. I wonder what memories of her past might be closer to the surface now that Erik’s death and Wilhelm’s choice to not be prince and everything else really are all shaking her out of her worldview.

Also while we’re thinking about August and Kristina’s interaction, can we collectively imagine a story that digs into the gender of it all? Obviously both men and women can be keepers of tradition, but—okay, I feel like in the US, women keeping tradition always gets wrapped up in this divine aura of ~motherhood~ that makes everything more fraught and complicated. I don’t know if that’s as true in Sweden, but that’s something I’ve always been fascinated by, the way Kristina’s roles of queen and mother are in conflict. What does it mean for her now that she’s handing down tradition to the boy that isn’t her child? How does August feel about all this given that he felt so abandoned by his mother in the first season but may be reaching for her again by the end of the series? Also, how do people respond differently to a king as compared to a queen?

Anyway I’d love to read fic about that (I’d write it but my plate is full until January) but you know what I’d also take a spin-off series where the frame is crown prince August reading teenage Kristina’s diary and then we get all the flashbacks ever to Kristina’s teenage years and what she and Carl Johan got up to. Like where is that show. I want that show. I know Malte and Pernilla have other things to do now but it would be so good actually.

[karlxivjohan]

We might have became enemies through the years and I can’t deny feeling betrayed after having fought my old mentor and friend.

But I would like to thank you for giving chance to my sons.

Ney.

@le-brave-des-braves

My Dear Prince de la Moskowa, I hesitate to speak.

To have called you a friend, a brother-in-arms, was once among the greatest honors of my life. The paths that I believe fate and duty carved for us— placed us on opposing sides, and for that, I have often grieved. To raise sword against a man I once trusted with my life was no less painful than the betrayal you must have felt. I cannot deny the sorrow I felt when circumstances pitted us against each other.

Despite all that had happened, know that the respect and affection I held for you remain. You were a man of unwavering courage and integrity, and I remain proud to have once stood by you. Hosting your sons in Sweden was not merely an act of duty but one of affection for their father. They have honored your name well, and I am glad I could provide them with opportunities that might have been denied to them elsewhere. I hope the call of your conscience finds you love always your friend who will never forget nor betray you.

All yours; I kiss your children.

Carl Johan.

[andiatas]

Royal House expert: -⁠ Seems to have forgotten the art of celebrating with the people

Royal House expert Trond Norén Isaksen believes the Norwegian Foyal Family has much to learn from its Danish royal guests.

There have been magnificent parties, receptions and a lot of glitz and glamour in connection with the new Danish royal couple's visit to Norway this week.

- It is the task of the royal houses to highlight the state and its symbols with a festivity that the political power holders cannot afford, says royal book author Tor Bomann-Larsen to VG.

He thinks that it is natural that the display of splendour is at its strongest in the meeting with our old union partner, Denmark.

- The contrast with the state visit from Moldova is almost striking, although the political significance of this visit was perhaps just as great, Bomann-Larsen insists to VG.

- The so-called "pomp and splendour" stage makes the monarchy visible, but monarchies are not alone. There are also republics, such as the French one, with much pomp and splendour. This contributes to exalting the monarchy or the president, says historian and royal house expert Trond Norén Isaksen to VG.

- Then, it is the case that tiaras and gala dinners attract more attention from the media and the public than all-weather jackets and breakfast meetings. Therefore, a little pomp and splendour can help to increase the royal family's visibility, continues Isaksen.

"Most people"

He is of the opinion that in Norway, the royal family's current goal is for the royals to be like most people.

- People appreciate a down-to-earth royal house but also expect there to be something a little special and different about them. They shouldn't be exactly like the rest of us.

Norén Isaksen points out that the Norwegian royal house has much to learn from its royal Danish guests and the Swedish and British royal houses.

- When King Carl Gustaf celebrated his 50th anniversary last year, there was a grand gala dinner at Stockholm Palace. But the royal couple also went on a carriage and boat procession through the city, which ended with a large outdoor concert at the castle—a concert that was open to all and attracted many people. The Danish throne change was also a public celebration, and 174,000 people gathered outside Christiansborg Castle.

VG's commentator, Yngve Kvistad, writes that King Frederik is the influencer king.

- Europe's youngest monarch is criticized for being less visible than her mother. But King Frederik has several platforms where he meets people, writes Kvistad.

It is far from the Norwegian royal reality, according to Norén Isaksen.

- The Norwegian royal family, on the other hand, seems to have forgotten the art of celebrating with the people. When Princess Ingrid Alexandra celebrated her 18th birthday in 2022, the castle balcony was empty, and she drove in a closed car from the Castle to Deichman. "Why not an open car down the Karl Johan [street]?" asked people who were disappointed that they couldn't see her or take part in the celebration in any way.

According to Norén Isaksen, another example is the Crown Prince Couple's celebration of their joint 50th birthday last year.

- It took place behind high fences in the Palace's backyard with specially invited guests, again without the people being able to see them or participate in the celebrations. It would never work in Denmark, says Trond Norén Isaksen.

But there are several sides to the magnificent glitz and glamour celebration that we experience these days.

- You can wonder if a visit we've had by the new Danish Royal Couple with a lot of pomp and splendour can quickly become an escape from reality from all the bad things happening around the world, says TV 2's Royal Expert Ole-Jørgen Schulsrud-Hansen to VG.

Balance

Norén Isaksen points out that people expect that there will be some stardust.

- But not so much that it becomes unrealistic, tone-deaf or provocative. At the same time, there must not be so much pomp and splendour that it stings the eyes or that the content of what the royal family does is lost in the glare of the light. This balance varies depending on time and social conditions and is not always easy to strike.

Bomann-Larsen believes there is a sensitive tipping point in the relationship between domestic festivity and international misery.

- But in the deepest sense, the state visits clarify the countries' independence, mutual respect and recognition. A symbolic demonstration of power such as the one we see unfolding in the capital can be significant when many feel that national independence is threatened. Perhaps that is precisely why it is applied so thickly?

Translation and editing for clarity by me of an article by Jørn Pettersen for VG (Verdens Gang). The article was published on May 15, 2024, at 20:40, and updated at 21:57.

[ifreakingloveroyals]

[princessvictoriamelita]

Crown Princess Margaret of Sweden with her children at Sofiero in 1917.

[theroyalfanzine]

Queen Victoria's Currently living Eldest Decendants and Eldest Ever Descendants

This list is as of 19 April 2024

CURRENTLY LIVING

The Lady Pamela Hicks (19 April 1929) (95 years, 0 months, 0 days)

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner (12 February 1932) (92 years, 2 months, 7 days)

Count Bertram Friedrich zu Castell-Rüdenhausen (12 July 1932) (91 years, 9 months, 7 days)

Mrs. Anne Mary Sibylla Liddell-Grainger (28 July 1932) (91 years,8 months, 22 days)

Princess Caroline Mathilde Adelheid Sibylla Marianne Erika von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha (5 April 1933) (91 years, 0 months, 14 days)

Princess Dorothea Charlotte Karin of Hesse (24 July 1934) (89 years, 8 months, 26 days)

Princess Margaretha Désirée Victoria, Mrs. Ambler (Sweden, 31 October 1934) ( 89 years, 5months, 13 days)

Countess Viktoria Adelheid Clementine Louise von Castell-Rüdenhausen-Von Huntington-Whiteley (26 Februrary 1935)(89 years, 1 months, 24 days)

Prince Edward George Nicholas Paul Patrick, The Duke of Kent (9 October 1935) (88 years, 6 months, 10 days)

Miss Elizabeth Alice Abel Smith (5 September 1936) (87 years, 7 months, 14 days)

Eldest LIVED Descendants:

On 12 June 2025, Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner will join this list if she is still living.

Prince Philip, The Duke of Edinburgh (10 June 1921-9 April 2021) ( 99 years, 10 months, 11 days)

Princess Alice of Albany, Countess of Athlone (25/02/1883-03/01/1981) (97 years, 10 months, 10 days)

Queen Elizabeth II of The United Kingdom (21 April 1926-8 September 2022) ( 96 years, 4 months, 18 days)

King Mihai I of Romania (25/10/1921-05/12/2017) ( 96 years, 1 month, 11 days)

Count Carl Johan Bernadotte af Wisborg (Sweden) (31/10/1916-05/05/2012) (95 years, 6 months, 5 days )

The Lady Pamela Hicks (19 April 1929) (95 years, 0 months, 0 days)

Count Sigvard Bernadotte af Wisborg (of Sweden) (07/06/1907-04/02/2002) (94 years, 7 months, 28 days )

Lady Katherine Brandram (Princess of Greece and Denmark) (04/05/1913 02/10/2007) ( 94 years, 4 months, 27 days )

Infanta Dona Beatriz   Isabel Federica Alfonsa Eugénie Cristina Maria Teresia Bienvenida Ladislàa   of Spain, The Princess of Civitella-Cesi   (22/06/1909-22/11/2002) (93 years, 5 months, 1 day)

Patricia Edwina Victoria Mountbatten- Knatchbull  , The 2nd Countess Mountbatten of Burma (14/02/1924-13/06/2017) ( 93 years, 4 months)

FACTS:

The Duke of Edinburgh is the husband  and third cousin of Queen Elizabeth II, first cousin of Lady Katherine Brandram,  The Countess Mountbatten of Burma & Lady Pamela (Mountbatten) Hicks & uncle to Princess Dorothea Charlotte Karin of Hesse.  He is also a 1st cousin 1x removed of  Queen Sofia of Spain, King Constantine II of the Helenes and Princess Irene of Greece & Denmark and The Duke of Kent (The Duke of Kent’s mother Marina was The Duke of Edinburgh’s first cousin).

Queen Elizabeth II is a 3rd cousin of The Countess Mountbatten of Burma, Lady Pamela Mountbatten, The Duke of Edinburgh. She is the wife of The Duke of Edinburgh. Through her marriage, she is an aunt to  Princess Dorothea Charlotte Karin of Hesse. She is a first cousin of The Duke of Kent.

Lady Pamela Hicks is a 3rd cousin of Queen Elizabeth II, a first cousin of  The Duke of Edinburgh, her big sister was The Countess Mountbatten of Burma.

Princess Astrid, Mrs. Ferner is a third cousin of The Countess Mountbatten of Burma, The Duke of Edinburgh, Queen Elizabeth II & Lady Pamela Hicks.

The Countess of Althorne was the last surviving grandchild of Queen Victoria. By her marriage,  The Countess of Althorne was also a great aunt of Queen Elizabeth II-she married QEII’s grandmother’s brother

King Mihai I of Romania was the last monarch of Romania, he was also a great grandchild of Queen Victoria twice-once through his mother (via Victoria, Princess Royal) and once through his father (via Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha)

Sweden’s Count Carl Johan Bernadotte af Wisborg & Count Sigvard Bernadotte af Wisborg were brothers as well as uncles to King Carl XVI Gustaf, Princess Margareta, Mrs. Ambler, Princess Birgitta of Sweden, Princess of Hohenzollern,  Princess Désirée, Baroness Silfverschiöld,  Princess Christina, Mrs. Magnuson, Queen Margrethe II of Denmark, Princess Benedikte of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg & Queen Anne-Marie of Greece.

Countess Viktoria Adelheid Clementine Louise von Castell-Rüdenhausen-Von Huntington-Whiteley  was a great granddaughter of Prince Leopold, The Duke of Albany, thus a great great granddaughter of Queen Victoria. She is also the younger sister of  Count Bertram Friedrich zu Castell-Rüdenhausen.

[raincitygirl76]

Reblogging yet again for a VERY on point addition by @retrieve-the-kraken I think they’re right, August told Simon he was broke (granted, he wasn’t thinking clearly at the time). Simon used that information to blackmail him into selling drugs to their classmates. Then when August tried to get Simon expelled (in revenge for Simon having once gotten the better of him), Simon gave that information to Wilhelm. Who used it to humiliate August in front of all the Society boys, seize control of the Society, and protect his boyfriend from expulsion.

August really LIKES Sara, probably even loves her. He doesn’t want to reveal that information to her. What if she thinks he’s emasculated because he can’t handle his financial business, and loses interest in him sexually and romantically? Plus, in 1.06 when Sara first cut a deal with August, she said, “I want to be like you.” She didn’t mean she wanted to be broke, she meant she aspired to have his pedigree, his privilege, his ability to move through the world as a superior being compared to ordinary mortals.

Carl Johan committed SUICIDE because he was faced with the prospect of having to sell Arnas after he’d mismanaged his inheritance and become an addict. Those two things are probably related, by the way. I don’t know whether Carl Johan turned to drugs to escape the pressure of his worsening financial situation, or if drug use contributed to him making bad financial decisions. Doesn’t really matter which came first.

The point is financial failure and the public humiliation of potentially losing Arnas was so INTOLERABLE to Carl Johan, he preferred to die. And in 1.03, when Louise urges her son to sell something to pay his tuition, August himself says, “I’d rather die.” I’m not saying August is necessarily suicidal like his father. But he has totally internalized Carl Johan’s inflexible, unrealistic attitude towards their ancestral home. An attitude which most likely contributed to Carl Johan getting to the point where suicide seemed like a valid way out.

Also, August probably interpreted his father’s suicide as a rejection of him personally. He wasn’t good enough for Carl Johan to choose him over death. Please note, nobody who’s suicidal THINKS of themselves as abandoning or rejecting their loved ones by their actions. I have clinical depression and have been suicidal (though a long time ago). When I attempted suicide, I was convinced I was saving my loved ones from the burden of having to deal with toxic me. But the EFFECT of suicide (or attempted suicide) on someone’s loved ones is they often feel rejected/abandoned.

A few months after Carl Johan’s death, Louise packed her only child off to boarding school. Not long after, she quickly remarried, not to another nobleman, but a mere lawyer. She replaced her husband with an inferior substitute, which probably made August even more determined to be a son Carl Johan would’ve been proud of.

So now August is determined to save Arnas, and to be perfect, or at least to maintain an image of perfection and never let that image drop. The only role model he’ll accept is Carl Johan, who wouldn’t compromise on his obsession with Arnas. Also an addict who committed suicide, thus inadvertently abandoning his wife and child.

Once August got to Hillerska, his cousin Erik was a third year when he was a first year. Erik was kind to August, took him under his wing, realized he was traumatized by his father’s recent suicide. But Erik also overlooked August’s bad qualities, or tried to explain them away as a result of trauma. Which they probably were.

August tried to become a carbon copy of his older cousin. He idolized Erik, made him a role model. In his own third year, he was a prefect and captain of the rowing team, just like Erik had been. But he didn’t copy Erik’s behaviour as a loving big brother, just copied his accomplishments at Hillerska.

When Erik dropped his little brother off at Hillerska in 1.01, he wanted August to look out for Wilhelm the same way Erik had looked out for August when August was also 16 and troubled. But Erik failed to realize (or didn’t want to realize) that August and Wilhelm would never get along. The more August asserted his authority, the more Wilhelm rebelled. And to August’s disgust, Wilhelm took up with the wrong kind of people. Who August inconveniently owed money to.

After Erik died, August and Wilhelm fought even more. Wilhelm had moved past befriending the unsuitable non-resident who knew dirt on August, and was now sleeping with him. When August tried to get Wilhelm’s secret boyfriend expelled, Wilhelm retaliated, as I mentioned above. August was so enraged, he didn’t give a shit that Erik had trusted him to look out for his little brother. August had genuinely grieved Erik, but revenge on Wilhelm was much more important.

Erik had assured Wilhelm that August might be annoying, but he should overlook the annoyance because August was intrinsically trustworthy. August was family, and you could always depend on family. When Erik had asked August to look out for Wihelm at Hillerska, I doubt he ever expected August to put Erik’s 16 year old brother’s naked body all over the internet, and out him and his boyfriend to the entire world.

August’s need to show dominance over Wihelm and Simon after the Society debacle took priority over his supposed role model. What Erik would’ve wanted from the younger cousin he’d mentored and supported when August was vulnerable and grieving didn’t matter. Only revenge mattered, even though August surely knew Erik had loved his little brother and trusted August to protect him. Instead August violated Wilhelm. August’s anger issues led to him betraying his own family, and undermining the monarchy his precious Society had all sworn loyalty to.

But enough about Erik, let’s get back to another dead family member August and Wilhelm had in common. Carl Johan might also have had undiagnosed mental health issues which led to his suicide. I’m sure the drugs and the financial stress were a huge factor, but most addicts aren’t suicidal. If the show had wanted Carl Johan to have died because of his addiction, he could’ve overdosed. Instead, he canonically took his own life.

Wihelm is a blood relative (Carl Johan’s first cousin once removed) and has an undiagnosed anxiety disorder. Other mutual relatives we haven’t met yet might also struggle with depression, anxiety, and other issues. Mental health issues often run in families. How much is genetic and how much is the family environment is unclear, but regardless, they run in families. And August (Carl Johan’s only child) not only has an explosive temper, he also very likely has an eating disorder and body dysmorphia. Which are also mental health issues.

And as @retrieve-the-kraken mentioned, August is incapable of backing down. EVER. He incurs a debt to Simon in early S1, Simon isn’t cowed by his position and insists on payment, and it escalates. August MUST retaliate after Simon gains the upper hand. It’s intolerable to be weak, to let someone dominate you and not make them pay for having exposed your weakness. So it continues to escalate.

The ongoing conflict with Simon merges with August’s ongoing conflict with Wilhelm. An attempt at getting rid of Simon backfires, when Wilhelm protects his boyfriend and gets into a power struggle with his cousin as a result. August is exposed to the Society as nearly bankrupt. The same danger that led to his father’s death. August’s precious image of perfection destroyed, at least in front of the Hillerska boys he considers important enough to be his peers. Landed aristocrats like the one August might stop being, if he can’t save Arnas.

August NEEDS revenge on both Wilhelm and Simon for making him look weak. So he leaks the video on the internet, and now he’s a sex offender. If the police ever find out, August risks prison and public disgrace. Not that he realized that at the time, but the thirst to dominate Wilhelm and Simon and make them pay for humiliating him was more important than any rational or family considerations. Like, “maybe I should just delete that video I accidentally took of my 16 year old cousin having sex with another boy, instead of holding onto it for future leverage.”

Wilhelm also has an explosive temper, that also might run in the family. But Wilhelm is capable of backing down. He definitely has major anger issues, but he’s not so consumed by toxic masculinity that he can’t break a destructive cycle when he gets some much-needed perspective. Yeah, he does have toxic masculinity issues, particularly in early S2 when he’s trying to humiliate August and take away the things in life August values. But toxic masculinity doesn’t consume him.

From 2.01 to early 2.04, Wilhelm is consumed by thirst for revenge on August and desperate desire to get Simon back. He never stops holding a grudge against August, but he eventually realizes if he loves Simon, he has to let him go. Simon can’t be happy with him, and it’s better to see Simon happy with someone else than to see Simon miserable. Wilhelm letting him go in 2.04 doesn’t work out at ALL the way he expects, but he makes that decision unselfishly. Wilhelm does plenty of stupid, selfish shit, and he hurts people he cares about. But he has the capacity for self-reflection, and the capacity to prioritize other people’s happiness over his own desires.

Also the capacity to step back and choose not to continue feeding an arms race of tit-for-tat continual escalations. In 2.05, Wilhelm considers giving August his heart’s desire by abdicating his own place in the succession. He doesn’t want to make August happy, but he realizes his life might be better if he could walk away from all the royal bullshit. And he might be able to get Simon back if he weren’t crown Prince.

Kristina only tells Wilhelm August is his backup to try and fuel his anger with August. She expects him to want to hang onto his birthright, to be a more cooperative crown prince so he can ensure August never takes his place. But again, Wilhelm has enough capacity for self-reflection to wonder if staying crown prince and becoming king someday just to spite August is worth it. Will successfully spiting august actually make him happy? Maybe, maybe not. I don’t think that’s what Kristina intended when she told her son! She’s counting on his anger at August prevailing over any other considerations. She underestimates him.

In 2.06, Wilhelm holds August at gunpoint! Their arms race has escalated to the point where it’s potentially fatal. When Sara reveals she’s known it was August who leaked the video all along, Wilhelm is initially even more enraged. His gut reaction when he finds out August has destroyed Simon’s family is to escalate yet again.

But then Simon is distraught by his big sister’s betrayal and runs away. Wilhelm immediately stops dominating August and making him beg for his life. He drops the gun, and chases after Simon to try and comfort him. He fails, but wanting to nurture takes precedence over wanting to punish and destroy. That’s the opposite of toxic masculinity.

August has hurt Simon, but Wille instinctively prioritizes trying to help Simon through this trauma. Getting back at August for hurting Simon would be a nice to have for Wille, but it’s not his top priority. When push comes to shove, Wilhelm chooses supporting someone he loves over getting revenge on someone he hates. He literally walks away from August, who’s on his knees at the shooting range. August just isn’t that important to Wille anymore.

August isn’t capable of that kind of insight. He’s too caught up in toxic masculinity, in maintaining a false image of perfection, in striving for the perfect muscular body via obsessive exercise, in vengeance for past humiliations. The boy Wille loves decides to forgive him his betrayal from 1.06, and agrees to be with him in secret. Simon sees Wilhelm’s capacity for love and is willing to take a leap of faith and trust him again. Also, Simon and Wilhelm both hate August, but they don’t want that hatred to consume them. Finding happiness together is more important.

Wille has plenty of anger issues but he’s capable of self-reflection and prioritizing people he cares about over his own anger. He also has the capacity to back down and change his mind, when he realizes his actions aren’t helping. By contrast, August’s actions result in him losing the girl he loves. Even buying Rousseau for her isn’t enough to win her back. She’s too disgusted with him and with herself. August sold one of Carl Johan’s paintings (something he’d sworn he’d never do) just to make Sara happy. But Sara rejects both August and the expensive gift he sacrificed one of his father’s possessions for.

And she calls the cops to report August’s crime. He’s a legal adult at 18. If he becomes the prime suspect in a case of child pornography, the media can report his name. Even if the case never goes to trial or he has great lawyers and gets acquitted, his reputation would be damaged. Also, even his fellow aristocrats might be appalled by his actions. Not because they necessarily care about child pornography of two queer minors, but because by leaking the video, August damaged the monarchy.

August thought his father’s addiction problems and suicide were bad for the Horn name. August could damage their family name much worse. Because he can’t walk away from a confrontation, it’s intolerable for anyone to dominate him, he MUST retaliate and punish them if they ever got the better of him, even once. His vision of himself as strong, masculine, and capable is incredibly fragile and conditional, so he can never back down. August is soaking in toxic masculinity, and not only is everybody who knows him miserable as a result of his actions, HE’S miserable too. He’s the architect of all his own misfortunes.

Goddamn, this got RIDICULOUSLY long. And rambling. Who would’ve thought there’d be so much stream of consciousness meandering possible over that prick?

I am largely pro-season 2 of Young Royals, and support Lisa’s script decisions. Every once in a while, though, I find myself wishing for a line here or there that could clarify/add to the story. Nothing that would fully take over the plot or extend the length of a scene, but merely something that could function as a clarifier.

Today I’m thinking about how I wish we could have gotten a line in the first half of the second season where August lets slip to Sara that his bank account is empty. I’m assuming this is still the case at the beginning of the season—we see him spending Christmas alone at Hillerska instead of going on a lavish vacation, and when his schoolmates come back from break talking about their trips, Malte’s face acting seems to suggest that August feels shut out by these conversations/is feeling a little disillusioned by them for the first time in his life.

If August mentions to Sara that he’s “broke” (in a casual offhand way that doesn’t get into the footnote about having assets tied up in art, land, etc) that’s another way for Sara to let her guard down and connect with him. She’s been struggling to pay for coffee and feels a little taken aback by the fancy riding pants she received as a gift from her friends; it probably takes pressure away from Sara if she realizes she’s not going to be expected to spend money or have money spent on her. It also makes it a bigger betrayal later on when August buys Sara the horse and mentions offhand that he was able to sell some art his family owns to do it. Like that scene is already devastating, but oof. Imagine the added layers!

A moment like that would be valuable class commentary, too, because while socioeconomic class is certainly about how much money people have, it’s also about where and how that wealth is stored. Rich people can use stocks and luxury items and land to stow their assets away for emergencies and give themselves tax breaks and the laws largely protect them doing so.

I’m not sure whether to end this with a gif of Jenny Joyce from Derry Girls saying she’ll just “dip into her trust fund” or with your standard guillotine meme, so you know, choose whichever one works for you and mentally attach it to the post.