#Oh Ilnam

[midnight--sadness]

gihun collecting deranged homicidal freaks like infinity stones

bonus:

[aphrmoosun]

[hwang-inhos-fish]

Something @catstantin commented on another Oh Il Nam post just made me realize -

THE UNEVEN NUMBER OF PLAYERS FOR MARBLES WAS INTENTIONAL.

BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO GET IL-NAM OUT.

Let's be real, no one else was going to pair up with him. No one else EXPECTED anyone else to pair up with a useless old man who peed his pants not an hour ago.

They knew there was an uneven number of players and, as that one dude told Gi-hun, everyone including the Front Man and the island staff expected Il-nam to be left behind while everyone else went away, happily partnered, to play Marbles.

You can see it in how Il-nam is sitting in that scene. He’s embarrassed from the pants-peeing episode. He's tired and uncomfortable from sleeping in the dormitory instead of his luxury suite, he misses his fancy life, he's getting bored of the games and the Special Games really did scare him I think. When he stood on the bunks and yelled for it all to stop because he was SCARED... the Front Man listened to him. He stopped the Special Game right that moment. Because it was serious. It was real.

(Did he wet his pants because he was genuinely too scared to go to the bathroom alone, afterwards?)

Il-nam is getting pretty burnt out on the games, being in them at least, by the time Marbles rolls around. He goes and sits down to mope, feeling sorry for himself, bored and looking forward to getting back to his friends and his luxuries and his mask.

He would be led away as the "spare part," superfluous, unneeded. He could be quietly and quickly removed from the games and no players would be the wiser.

But that didn't happen.

Gi-hun surprised everyone by asking the useless old fuck to play with him.

And that, I believe, is why Il-nam pretended to lose at marbles. Why he let Gi-hun cheat.

Why he let Gi-hun LIVE.

Gi-hun’s kindness towards others is what saves him, every time.

[squidgxmeconfessions]

Hello- i've returned for the third (second out of anon) and possibly last time for now- This one is really, really long, so I deeply apologize in advance.

Just a theory or idea i had that I haven't seen anyone commenting something similar so far but,

I genuinely believed that the 2024 Squid Game was specifically made for Gi-Hun. What do I mean by that?

Since Gi-Hun left the Squid Games as the winner, he was being watched, he had a tracker (which he quickly removed 3 years ago, but doesn't stop him from being watched secretly). Returning at the game, Gi-Hun knew exactly what to do, he had a "plan" - enter the game, help as many people as possible, do the voting, leave, possibly repeat. However, by the end of the 1st season, we know that Il-Nam was the one choosing the games based on what he used to play.

Now that he is dead, who is the one deciding the games?

In-Ho, the Frontman, the "archenemesis" to our protagonist.

Knowing that Gi Hun would want to return at some way, In-Ho made a plan, a new strategy to "break" Gi-Hun and show the reality isntead of whatever fantasy he is living in (which tbh, Gi-Hun IS living in a fantasy). Everything that happened in Season 2 was specifically calculated to be used Against Gi-Hun. He knew the first game, In-Ho used that for his favor, so Gi-Hun would gain trust (which In-Ho himself used that in the following episode), and then completely broke the trust, bc he himself, chose new games that Gi-Hun had no idea how to counter (how the hell does one counter Mingle???).

Besides of the games itself, we also can think of the new voting system, which was a surprise to both Gi-Hun and us as watchers BUT, it has a purpose.

It has the purpose of dividing the players even further

Players who were in the X team, wanted to leave and have a reason to absolutely despise those on O team. Those on O team, were mostly greedy (Nam-Gyu), or just plain stupid (Thanos, bc he was high).

Why Nam-Gyu? he is in debt by 300 million wons, he could LEAVE after Mingle and pay his debt and still have a bit more for himself, But he STILL kept going, because that's waht the O team are doing. They don't think themselves as that they will die in the next game, they think as the fact of, Winning the next game = more money.

The division between X and O is even more obvious during the Lights' Out, where they actively go after X members to eliminate for both, more money and less people voting to leave.

This is the main reason of the new voting system, it shows people greediness, how far can one go when money Is evolve? And as we know, even in IRL situation, is not hard to find a story of someone killing their own partner for more money, etc.

This new voting system was to show Gi-hun that doesn't matter how good he has and other people around him have (like Geum-Ja, Dae-Ho, Jun-Hee, etc) there is always that thing that control the scales, Money. When Money is involved, humans lose their humanity, they become no less than lions after the same deer.

Now it's up for Gi-Hun, does he still believe, after everything he has seen, has heard, has watched, after the killing of multiple people by the hands of other players, does he still believe that people will change? Does he believe that he has more power than money has on people?

.

[itsmahree]

this is why im convinced gihun is ilnam's son or at least has some connection to him: gihun's mom's name is oh mal soon. when written in korean, it is 오말순 which could make out the shapes ⚫⬛▲ that represents squid game

[raskyven]

Gihun: You think people are just horses in a race, and you own the horses ‼️😠

-silence-

Inho: Your way with words has improved *impressed bf*

(what if i laugh and cry at the same time 😭)

Inho: Were you going to kidnap me? 🤨

Gihun: Hghh.

Gihun: Put me back in the game 😤

Inho: You want to be in the game ⁉️😧

(i can't get over the fact that inho was also in the limo. like dude, we know you're desperate to see gihun again, but come on!!)

(imagine him sitting next to gihun, watching him the entire time they were on the ship to the island. his unconscious enemy, one he didn't take seriously, but nonetheless. what if he made his 'genius' plan at that time? "oh, what if i joined the game like ilnam? yeah, that would be fantastic. i'm a genius!!"☝🏻🤓)

[ceruleanslob]

Random fic idea for squid game: what if by the end of season 1 after the final game finishes, the VIPs, while extremely happy with the games, decide to just stop funding the game out of no where?

Inho: I hope you all enjoyed the games this year

VIP: Yeah, we did, for the last of these games, it was pretty good, all things considered

Inho: *pauses* the last?

VIP: Oh, did Ilnam not tell you? While watching the games has been fun, it's getting boring. It was good for the first 30 times but after a while, it does get old real fast

Inho:

Inho: wait

Inho: what

Cue a year or two later, after cleaning up any trace of the games, and Inho has no idea what to do with himself now although he knows Junho is still looking for him. Just imagine the Salesman still being chased by Gihun while he's doing his groceries although he no longer does any recruiting. The worst of it would be how Salesman just straight-up tells Gihun that the games are finished and Gihun loses his goal of stopping the games.

Maybe Inho and Gihun meet by coincidence at a random bar, with Gihun being drunk and venting to the person next to him who just happens to be a slightly awkward Inho...

i honestly imagine this to be a crackfic of sorts rather than anything serious...also the squid game brainrot is very strong right now for me lmao

[thesunssin]

I’d love to absolutely yap about Gihun and Sangwoo and how Gihun is in this season so here it is ‼️ ( sorry for any spelling mistakes, English isn’t my first language 🙏)

I don’t see a lot of people really talk about just how much of an affect Sangwoo had on Gihun, especially on this season and how he takes his actions, and even the intentions behind it, but I’d love to go on about Gihun first.

Gihun was never a remarkable person, his life before the games was already in shambles. The company he worked under went on a strike, and that’s when he came in touch with death for the first time, witnessing a coworker die right infront of him when their workplace got attacked, the same day his wife gave birth, which he couldn’t attend, since then he’s been losing things more and more, his wife and daughter, and to cope with it all he turned to unhealthy ways, gambling and detaching from the pain by doing so. Lots of people say he was happier back then, but he was just ignoring all his issues. He’s stuck in the past, his mind refuses to register the pain he went through, and in turn to find a way to heal and work on his life. And being stuck on the past means attaching to things in his childhood, one indirectly being Sangwoo, considering he spends a lot of time with his mother. He knows his state, and indulges in it instead of pretending to be something else.

Sangwoo on the other hand, was the opposite of him. Which is everything Gihun admired in him, and everything Sangwoo envied in him. Gihun views him as someone remarkable, and obviously doesn’t shy away from saying so. But Sangwoo isn’t, and doesn’t believe so. Sangwoo his entire life was fixated on a image he wants to put out to the world, and does whatever it takes to do so, betting on everything and even his mother, who just like Gihun, views him as “ the pride of their hometown”. His methods of doing so however, were immoral and illegal, which caused him to be heavily in debt, a physical proof of his failure. Unlike Gihun, his coping mechanism simply is either money or nothing, to be something else or nothing, anything but himself, and something better than him. Because of his failure, he feels like an imposter in a suit, pretending to be everything he’s not, the image he so desperately wants to portray would falter infront of his mother, and already does infront of Gihun, so his instinct is always to run away from the past, to never go back to his hometown, to his mother, because of how ashamed he is of himself. Seeing Gihun again reminds him of everything he couldn’t be, and that reminder is a constant agony to Sangwoo.

Sangwoo envies the authenticity Gihun has, how he unapologetically connects with others in a death game, helps out Oh Ilnam, an old man who is deemed to be a weak link in a game where everyone is out to get each other, and how despite it all, he still keeps his humanity intact and doesn’t let it falter, how even though Gihun treated his mother horribly, he still had her love, while Sangwoo believes his mother only loves the image he put, not himself. Gihun is the only person who saw his image falter, in the scene where he asks him if he’d push him if it was him instead of the glass maker. Sangwoo breaks, immediately arguing back like a defensive child, his argument almost childish when he calls Gihun a “pea head” and a “dumbass”. When Sangwoo mentions how his entire life is pathetic, Gihun replies that he knows the state of his life, and asks why Sangwoo, the pride of their hometown, the graduate of SNU, is right here in the pits with him, despite their vastly different lives, to which Sangwoo replies with nothing. Gihun through the show realises more and more how insecure Sangwoo is, and in turn also perfectly broke down the image he was trying to hard to put to justify his actions. Sangwoo, probably because of the pressure of Gihun’s own admiration, feels like his actions if for the sake of Gihun’s, no matter what, is justified, which he tries to use when arguing with Gihun, but in reality, it’s his own desperation, his own need to present as something else than himself, if it means bringing worth to his life, which he deems meaningless.

When he tries to connect with someone authentically, that person being Ali, he finally tries to allow himself to be without guilt, to help without thinking of any ulterior motives, and to have a relationship that isn’t wholly transactional, but that ultimately shatters when he teams up with Ali, who he ends up actually using his skills ( intelligence and manipulation, which he wanted to use hand in hand with Ali for each other instead of against each other) and like his old clients, cheats and robs him after promising to help. A painful reflection of how Ali, who was always cheated off his money and used in his workplace in unjust ways, the people who were his bosses, now gets cheated off by someone who he used to call from boss to Hyung. That’s when Sangwoo ultimately reverts back to his mindset, that he should be striving to save himself, make worth for himself, to make the blood in his hands make sense, and for the guilt to be worth it in the end, but also sees how Gihun still helps others, how he still helped Saebyeok, and is filled with anger about how he can pretend that he doesn’t also have blood on his hands too, that they’re all gonna die because of each other, but he still moves in the same empathetic way, as if they can afford to be kind.

Season 1 to me really is about how circumstances change the people who you once knew, how capitalism and money twists people, and even the most innocent things to bloody. It’s best portrayed with two childhood friends, Sangwoo and Gihun, who once played together with just fun in their minds, the adrenaline and the joy of childhood innocence and childlike wonder in their minds, to playing the same games for money with life and death in their minds. I’d argue and say they’re both just overgrown kids, two who are stuck in the past, Gihun who refuses to accept it as it is, and stays behind, his personality almost childish and pathetic as a grown man, while Sangwoo who runs after his childhood dreams by any means, stuck in the image that’s already tainted with blood, his personality almost like an angsty teen who pretend to be older than he is, but both come from poverty, both struggling with money, and both their issues starting from that, which shaped them to be who they are, and turned them both to things they don’t recognise anymore when they reunited till and till their last moments together.

Maybe it’s my own point, but I believe that Sangwoo was relieved that Gihun hated him for that brief moments, that they’ve argued and fought, and that the image Gihun had of him was shattered, which in turn also freed him from his own lies and image he tried to convince himself too. He could finally feel angry without any restraint, without acting like he isn’t, without covering up his selfish desires and needs, and projects it all onto Gihun, absolutely shattering the image he tried so hard to keep infront of him on purpose. Their fight was brutal and lacked any real training, both not knowing how to fight properly, and their emotions speaking louder, their movements are sloppy and awkward, and Sangwoo, who’s way more brutal in this fight, gets a hold of the knife for longer and stabs Gihun, while Gihun who when he manages to get a hold of the knife ( which is impaled to his hand ) realises that he can’t complete his actions, Sangwoo realising so when he opened his eyes to see Gihuns sad ones looking back. When Gihun walks right to the very edge of the triangle of the squid, he realises that the money, all of it, would never be worth his friends life, his childhood friends life, waking back limping and bloody to ask the guard, referencing what Sangwoo said to use clause three and for both of them agree to stop the games and leave.

Sangwoos anger waters down with the rain puddles next to him, and he realises the irony of their place. The same two grown adults, who once used to play the same games, and as he says “ When we were younger, we used to play just like this and our moms would call us for dinner” the intensity of their fight, this one being bloody and violent, reflects on how they as kids would imagine their fights to be that intense and bloody, the adrenaline copying one of someone facing life and death, except they are now, and like Sangwoo says. “Nobody is calling us anymore” his voice here ( lovely detail from the actor thank you park haesoo!) broken like a child, and Gihun raises his hand to him, telling him that they can go him, that they will go home. All the anger they had seconds before now gentle and caring, all of it was always once love, all the anger was once love. Gihun gives him is pure clean hand, one without a drop of blood, while Sangwoo stretches his own bloody hand, one that isn’t tainted with his own blood, but the blood of others and the person above him, the one who’s other hand he impaled.

Gihun was so willing, so willing to make it all worthless. Everything they’ve been though, all the scars they got and had, all the deaths they’ve caused indirectly, directly, and witnessed from close or afar, the death of the people he cared for, even Saebyeoks, and his own bleeding wounds and stabs, all if it meant bringing back Sangwoo with him, he’d go penniless willingly, because he couldn’t truly blame him for everything, he couldn’t truly blame him for turning out the way he is, he admired him with his soul, loved him with every fibre of his being, and adored him and saw him as someone so remarkable and great despite it all, so he gave him his hand, his clean, untainted hand, as to tell him that he, Sangwoo, can taint it with all his sins, and he’ll still hold his hand, he’d still want him by his side. Sangwoo almost took it, almost. He wanted to let himself be, to accept that gentleness Gihun so willingly offered, and to accept the hands of his childhood friend.

That’s until he realises they won’t have a single penny for it all. That’s when he retracts his hand, and all he can do is apologise, to say sorry to his Hyung, as he stabs the knife through his neck without any remorse. In that moments, I think that’s when he realised the only way he can truly repay Gihun isn’t by taking his hand, but by leaving all the money for him, to repay his mother, to repay for Ali, Saebyeok, for all the people he caused to suffer, to repay it all with his life that was now worth 45.7B when the last person is eliminated. In the end of it all, he ignores even his own will to live and picks the most reasonable choice, letting his childhood friend win, not any random person, but Gihun. He knows him better than anyone, and within his last moments, calls out for his mother, asking Gihun to help her, to repay her in his behalf, because he couldn’t face her like this, he knows he wouldn’t be able to live with the weight of what he has done, even more-so without a single dim. But he knows Gihun wouldn’t forget him, he wouldn’t forget his mother, he wouldn’t forget his humanity, and he wouldn’t forget to care.

And so Sangwoo dies in a playground, dead in his childhood friends hands, a reflection of how everything he chased for as a kid died there too, and was always stuck in the same playground trying to prove his worth by winning.

By S2, Gihun painfully parallels everything Sangwoo was before the games. Both sharing even the same mother, who they both feel too ashamed and guilty to face, calling their families from a distance, and falling into deep depression, both sharing the same sense feeling like an imposter in their bodies for being things they aren’t ( both being wealthy, but gaining that wealth in unjust ways) their sense of worth less now and both suicidal. ( Sangwoo who tried to commit suicide in the bathtub, and Gihun who doesn’t hesitate to play Russian roulette and shoot himself) the only difference is the reason why they go back to the games.

Gihun in s2 even comes back to the games acting exactly like Sangwoo, even down to the two of them meeting someone from their past within it ( Sangwoo who met Gihun, and Gihun who now met Jungbae) but as vastly different people. Gihun uses what he had learnt directly from Sangwoo to help others ( The red light green light method, Mentioning the third clause, which was even filmed in the same space and manner, and telling others to hide before the fight broke out ) he’d always seen Sangwoo as an example of how to be, and admired him as a figure of something remarkable, so he, who already feels like an imposter in his body, who feels like he shouldn’t be the one who made it out, unconsciously begins to create an image of himself that reflects Sangwoos, one he saw as cold, intelligent, and was human despite it all.

Young Il, who Inho created, is an image of who Gihun wishes Sangwoo was. (Yes ik how that sounds lemme elaborate!) Young-il is someone who is equally as smart, someone who uses that intelligence to help the weaker, who thinks for the community, and is willing to help Gihun help others, unlike Sangwoo who limited his intelligence and help to just those who could also equally benefit him, who held back on trusting Gihun, and in the end acted on his own, and reduced Gihun’s humanity to weakness, something Gihun resented about Sangwoo, and something he sees in Young-il, who Inho knew how to build himself to be someone Gihun trusted, a familiar but strange new face. Oh but Gihun’s intentions aren’t so pure either, his guilt brought him back to the games, back to something he was stuck in, back to the past he can’t move on from and never will, his guilt drives him to think he needs to sacrifice himself for the games to end, even without any real aim or clear goal on how to, or even realising that the players will still suffer anyways, he believes his life will only gain worth if it’s used for something greater, similarly to how Sangwoo also believed his life would be worth something if he gained social status and money, something greater than himself. This time, Gihun gambles with the lives of himself and others ( the people who died for the plan) instead of horses.

Gihuns unwavering trust in others humanity, and in humanity itself, I’d say is purely because of Sangwoo. He witnessed him turn to so many things, from someone he so dearly admired, to a vile person who spat blood and killed for money, to hearing him never speak to him informally even in their angriest moments, and to crying in his arms, uttering out his mothers name as he calls him Hyung for the last time. Sangwoo, who taught him all he knew right now, couldn’t teach him how people could still be harmful, that trusting still blinds, and that being idealistic and naive isn’t good, because Sangwoo was human, Sangwoo wasn’t evil and irredeemable, he still cared for the boy he grew with, for the kid he found charming but annoyingly naive, for the kid who bragged about him every given chance, and for the same guy who he entrusted his mother to, the one who he drove all his actions for. And Gihun? He bet his entire life on that, on the shred of his cold image breaking to reveal his real vulnerability, on his humanity. And because Sangwoo showed him that, he now doesn’t believe anybody is truly evil, that they’re all victims of something bigger than themselves.

And so Gihun goes back to the games, going back to the place that his old self died in, and the one he doesn’t even know if he’ll survive in again, but is willing to gamble his life on ending it.

(sorry for how long I’ve yapped for! and if I’ve made any mistakes ❤️ please have some mercy on me! my English isn’t the best )

[borealing]

lots of people are frustrated that gihun didnt notice the huge glaring sign in front of him that 001 was a plant again which is understandable however i find that choice absolutely delicious

it shows how trusting gihun is, which is both his strongest and weakest trait; it helped him immeasurably through s1 and is the part of him that oh ilnam dies trying to prove wrong, and shown through s2 is how his trusting and empathetic nature becomes his biggest weakness (emphasised so heavily through his grief whenever he watches the other contestants die)

and my favourite reasoning behind this choice is that it shows how well inho knows gihun. he set up this big ass sign that basically says I AM THE MOST LIKELY PERSON TO DECEIVE YOU and even named himself! youngil! and then watched gihun close his eyes to every red flag because he trusts youngil. he could have chosen any number, including the number he used when he played the games before (132) but he chose to push it right in gihuns face that his empathy and trust is a weakness, with absolute confidence that gihun wouldnt clock him.

[andietries]

Okey guys, I have a theory. Assuming that they have a better security system than “showing a square mask allows you in every room” I think they had Seong Gihun face into the “allowed people” I think it’s too much of a coincidence that it was Gihun the one who opened the door.

Either Oh Ilnam or Inho gave him the permissions

[koreandragon]

alright finished squid game 2. i have some thoughts! like overall i enjoyed it it’s been a hot minute since a drama has made me want to sit down and binge it, im siwan is my baby and i will never complain about seeing wi hajoons hot ass on my screen, but if i wanted to put on my media literacy cap and think critically …

it felt like season 1 had purpose. the critique of capitalism, the desperation of poverty, the enjoyment of suffering for (white) vips, etc etc. whereas this season just felt … tacked on. i also think it suffers the catching fire treatment of rehashing the plot of the first (like literally just repeating the games) like the stakes are lost!! i don’t think there was much development in terms of plot or gihuns character. tbh if i were writing the show, i would have him more suspicious. have him distrust his friend (jaebyung? something like that) bc in s1 of being betrayed by sangwoo. and he toootally should have figured out inho was lying and suspect of another worker being in the games (like the pseudonym was literally 001, i mean cmon).

anyways those are my hashed thoughts! overall i mean yeah i had decent fun, i just don’t think it had much of an impact (whereas survival shows like alice in borderland did WONDERS in terms of developing the plot and message in s2) and it def does feel that the director was made to continue the drama for international popularity.

okay i'm gonna defend it a bit because i think it's a much needed context that they decided to split the second part into s2 and s3 because the episode count would've been too high for one season. this is what hwang dong hyuk said "I originally envisioned seasons 2 and 3 as a single story," he says. "That's how I wrote it. But in the process, it came out to be too many episodes." so i think that's why narratively s2 kind of suffered from being the set up season for the finale. i remember when they ended the finale on that scene and i was kind of confused like ?? that's it?? but it makes sense knowing this

i've seen people say gihun should've been more suspicious but i don't agree, not only because that would've taken the fun out of it (for me at least), i don't think it would've made sense either. like why would he think that the guy with the same player number oh ilnam had would once again be an inside man? inho was doing his best to make himself likeable to the point that i actually started liking him a bit even though i knew who he was. he never did anything to make them doubt his loyalty so even if gihun was suspicious at the start, his suspicions would have been mollified during the course of the games. as for his friend jongbae, i think he was closer to him than sangwoo who he hasn't seen in a while before the start of the games. also you gotta trust some people at least. and it's also important that gihun doesn't become too jaded or loses his faith in humanity as to push everyone else away from him and become paranoid because then the game makers would've broken him. but that's my thoughts!

personally i think they fumbled junho this season, he basically did nothing but float around on a boat the whole time, but all in all i enjoyed it, we had some fun new characters and i think it's leading up to a bigger pay off in s3.

[midnight--sadness]

gihun's harem 💖🥰🫦💦

[hwang-inhos-fish]

In E2, Oh Il-nam "runs into" Gi-hun out in the world, in Seoul, and asks what he's doing in that neighborhood - Gi-hun says he lives there and asks if the old man does too -

And Il-nam says no... he says HE'S VISITING A FRIEND who lives nearby.

We know In-ho’s apartment is close-ish to Gi-hun’s because of Jun-ho's adventures.

Obviously Il-nam lied, he MEANT to run into Gi-hun, but... could he have been referring to his Front Man as the "friend"? A grain of true basis for the fib?

[wherethegoldenleavesfall]

A common trend in YouTube videos that I am noticing is the belief that some players in the 36th Squid Game are VIPs in disguise. And that VIP 4 is Daeho, I am not kidding. That player 149 Geum-ja is a VIP, would not she not pay her son's debt if that is the case. Other candidates are 125 Minsu and 333 Myun-gi.

The only one I can semi see is player 100. Even that is a reach. He is one of the characters I wish a painful death on.

The only ones undercover of the games and organization themselves are Oh Ilnam the Host and Inho the Frontman

[raskyven]

squid game/gravity falls crossover

i finally watched both seasons for the first time last week and have been unable to get them out of my mind since!! the fanart i saw on twitter wasn't enough, ahhh. so i just wanted to write down some of the ideas i've had thus far

first and foremost, mullet stan would absolutely participate in the games! we all agree on this, right?? (would he let the salesman slap him like that? lmao)

i've imagined ford as junho since i first saw the series. i'm not sure how this would work. would he finally forgive stanley and wonder what he's been up to recently, where he was last seen, and so on, OR when caryn says she hasn't heard from stan in months, would he worry about his brother, even if he refuses to admit it?

he can follow the clues, possibly dressed as one of the pink soldiers like junho, and infiltrate the games to discover what is going on on the island??

(that was possibility 1. now i'm going on to a whole other scenario)

assuming that bill and ford still have a deal for the portal, i can imagine ford participating in the game (he needed a lot of money for the portal, and his grant money wasn't enough)

since bill can still take over ford's body, it would be INSANE if both of them were in the games. i'd really like to see it!!

remember namgyu's ruthlessness when he killed semi. now replace namgyu with ford :)

lights flashing everywhere, possessed ford, wielding a fork/knife/broken glass, violently murdering someone in that special game where everyone kills each other, blood spattered all over ford, his eyes blazing yellow, and he's laughing nonstop in this insane, high-pitched voice.

i'm not sure how the pink soldier ford and player stan would interact. would stanley notice that one of the guard has six fingers? that would remind him of his brother, but would he ever consider him to be ford? i don't think so. or would ford help stanley? i'm not sure how he'd accomplish it with all those cameras and other guards monitoring??

but when they're both players. oh, their first meeting would be wonderful. would they both see videos of each other being slapped on screen? or would their beds be next to each other if they used the brothers to entertain the VIPs for added drama?

would they act like the mother & son who recognise each other right away, or like s1 deoksu, saebyeok and gihun, who instantly began arguing and demanding an explanation from each other...

ford is enraged, and he wants to know if stanley has followed him here!?

meanwhile, stan is exhausted, depressed and fed up with life; he is homeless and has been to jail multiple times; and he needs money.

he's also concerned about ford being there. he should be attending college and had a great life, what is he doing in this shithole where guys like him end up?

while my friend and i were thinking about who fiddleford could be, oh ilnam and jungbae came to mind

not sure how this works, but i like imagining fiddleford as ilnam lol. instead of forming a cult, he may be the one to create the game??? i don't know if he still has the memory gun and has forgotten who he is, or if he's just pretending, but it'd be interesting if he joined the games with the twins

but also fidds as jungbae... this would be incredible, wow. in this situation, i see stanley as inho. (i have no idea how stan became frontman, and what was his rationale for it?? if he played the games before and won?? i don't know)

ford and fiddleford join the game for money (?) (are they still building the portal??), and stanley, who learns this, enters the game with them!!

and it immediately disturbs him how nicely ford and fiddleford get along, how ford has established friends besides stan and doesn't appear to miss him at all?!

i can't help but think of the s2 finale as stancest + fidds. stanley kills fiddleford in front of ford. (tbh i'm not concerned about whether or not it's in character, it's simply an idea i enjoy!)

we all noticed how jealous inho was when gihun brought jungbae instead of young-il, right?

"why did you bring me instead of stanley?"

"i don't know, because you're my best friend?? i just... can't trust him anymore, no matter how much i want to."

and of course stanley hears this :)

take fidds out of the equation, i'm curious how the two of them would get along during the game. they don't trust each other, not anymore. they haven't seen one other in years, so there is a lot of longing and stuff to talk about

tbh i can't decide which season they joined the game in. imagine them finally getting along again and partnering up to play marbles 😧

(i can't see any scenarios in which stan wouldn't sacrifice his life to keep ford alive and well.)

what if ford or stan were too late to enter a room while playing mingle? if ford had remained outside, stan would've lost. his. mind.

or tug of war. if they were on rival teams??

it would be so much fun if they were on the same team in six-legged pentathlon lmao. especially if they won the game when they were still not on good terms and hugged and celebrated, then they realised what they'd done and hurriedly parted from one other, looking away like nothing happened

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that's it for now :)

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and here are some fanarts. i LOVE all of these; you guys are all very talented ☹️🩷💐

stancest (nsfw!)

stan & ford

fiddlestan

bill & ford

stan & ford

stan & ford

bill & ford

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fiddleford

[orrr49]

I can understand those viewers who thought Gihun and Sangwoo were brothers/cousins, because…

Do you remember the theory that Gihun is Oh Ilnam's son?

I first watched S1 in 2021 (but I wasn't a big fan), and then I re-watched it in 2023. So, until I re-watched, my memories were very vague. UNTIL 2023 IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THIS THEORY WAS CANON.