#squid game theory

[my-prompt-dump]

This makes me think that maybe it's not necessarily a cry for help but some reassurance that there's still people willing to fight (?) for him? Idk if that makes sense 😕

Maybe due to his abandonment of his remaining family and how (probably) abrupt he left was, he wanted to see if Junho finally hates him for doing all that.

So he stops paying his rent etc etc. and then he waits. Will Junho notice? Will he go and look for Inho? Or will he ignore it and move kn because Junho finally gave up on Inho

Maybe, just maybe, the fact that In-ho let his brother live was a call for help.

I don't want to play down the things he has done. They were horrible and caused people a lot of pain if they even survived.

However, I believe that In-ho saved his brother in the end. If he hadn't shot him, they'd probably both be dead by now because the soldiers would have killed Jun-ho and then him because he wasn't loyal. I think he instructed Captain Park to save Jun-ho and keep an eye on him. Yes, Park led Jun-ho the wrong way, but I think deep down, In-ho hopes that his brother will somehow find and save him.

There are so many signs that In-ho actually struggles with his situation and that there are still human emotions that deeply affect him. He still mourns his wife and his child after nine years. He cares about Jun-hee and the child, and I don't think he only pretends to do so, I think they remind him of his own past. He tears up (imo) when he tells Gi-hun that it's all over.

Maybe In-ho observed Gi-hun so closely because he wanted to gain back his trust in humanity. I think they're actually not so different. They experienced the same pain of not being able to save people they cared about, went through the same game and the money couldn't bring back what they lost. Still, Gi-hun chose another path than him to cope with his past. Maybe In-ho hopes to find a way back to his old self through Gi-hun and Jun-ho.

Maybe, deep down, he wishes to be able to go back, but he can't do it himself because of all the things he has done. Maybe he even thinks he doesn't deserve it.

End of brain rot.

[001x456]

this parallel is scaring me because if it was done on purpose then I fear there's a possibility that in season 3 we will see a fight between gi-hun and in-ho (like gi-hun and sang-woo in the final round in season 1) where in the end gi-hun refuses to kill in-ho (I doubt gi-hun will outright forgive him, but maybe he will try to tell in-ho to go home to jun-ho, that it doesn’t have to end in death) and when gi-hun tries to offer his hand to help lift in-ho up, in-ho will pull the same stunt sang-woo did and kill himself to maybe save gi-hun or jun-ho. something about "small sacrifice for the greater good"

:(

[angel-wing-feathers]

Theory time: watch me over analyze this singular picture and have it bite me in the ass when s3 comes out

Being fr? I dont think this is In-ho.

The picture as a whole seems off, especially next to the other promo pic of him we got. He just seems way too casual, and very unlike every other picture we see of In-ho as the Frontman.

Every time we see In-ho, he’s very upright, always sitting or standing sure of himself. When in his arm chair he’s not necessarily relaxed but he sits uncomfortably proper posture wise. Even in the new set of promo pics in the contemplative picture he sits with his back properly flat against the back of the seat.

The only time In-ho does let himself slouch is when he is resting his arms on his knees in their team conversations (s2), but still as Young-il will keep a big presence, and never when presenting himself as the Frontman.

You know who is slouchy and casual almost every time we see him?

Bbg we know its you— what are you planning who are we ambushing like this

[bebx]

it’s probably silly but just a thought because there must be a reason why in-ho decided to return to the game as the front man after he won back in 2015 — and what if the reason is because they tortured him into agreeing to work for them as the front man, or what if they threatened to kill jun-ho if in-ho refused to work for them? and jun-ho’s life was what made in-ho agree to be the front man.

(maybe they knew in-ho was an ex cop with expertise, wits, strength, intelligence, and basically what a person needed for the job. and in-ho met the criteria, thus they needed him.)

again this is probably silly and not true. but like… just a thought

in-ho becoming the front man to save jun-ho’s life and jun-ho thinking his brother has betrayed him :(

[neahtrix]

//S3 spoilers!

Gi-Hun is defo is that box, I’m telling ya. They sent him back in the same box they put the eliminated players in, their way of rubbing it in his face that he failed. Nearly everyone who fought with him were eliminated, and he’s being forced into their shoes to reinforce just how badly he failed. But he’s alive. Somehow, he’s alive.

[phoebecatesl0vr]

Wait hear me out (he probably didn't survive and its probably gi-hun but i miss my glorious king guys 😓)

[giveamadeuschohisownmovie]

Ways I can see Squid Game 3 can go in terms of story:

1) Front Man, once and for all, tries to convince Gi-hun that people are inherently bad and that the games are just reflecting human nature. Front Man says that when push comes to shove, people will turn on each other since they value self-preservation over everything else. Gi-hun then says, “So if you had to kill Jun-ho for the money, would you?” Then for the first time in years, In-ho begins to doubt his own ideology.

2) As a continuation to the point above, In-ho confronts Jun-ho again. This time, instead of shooting his brother, In-ho kills himself (which also acts as a callback to the Salesman’s death).

3) Myung-gi redemption arc. I’m 50/50 on him either surviving and promising to actually help take care of Jun-hee’s baby, or tragically sacrificing himself but not before telling the group that they need to help Jun-hee raise their baby.

4) Yong-sik and Geum-ja survive. Only saying this because we already did the fakeout of Geum-ja dying during mingle game and I’m not sure how killing off Yong-sik would benefit the story. What I mean by that is that the only characters who I’d see getting development from Yong-sik’s death is his mom and Hyun-ju. Since Hyun-ju already has to live with Young-mi’s death, the only storyline I can think of in which Yong-sik dies is for his mom’s character development, which feels exceptionally cruel since the whole point of her being in the game was to get her son out. I don’t know, it feels too cruel to the point of grimdark if Yong-sik were to die for his mom’s pain, which is why I’m leaning to him surviving.

5) I can definitely see an ending where Gi-hun manages to save the last few contestants, but loses faith in humanity. Especially if the games continue on since people still desire entertainment and you can’t destroy people’s greed/selfishness.

6) The ONLY happy ending I can see for Gi-hun is if A) In-ho realizes his ideology is flawed since he can’t bring himself to sacrifice his brother Jun-ho for wealth and power and B) the O’s finally come to their senses and switch over to the X’s. This is the only happy ending I can see for Gi-hun since even if he manages to take Front Man and the VIPs down, he saw just how cruel people can be to each other. At this point, it’s not enough to take the games down, the people have to show they’re willing to change. It’s just like the ending of Squid Game season 1 where the homeless man was helped by the bystanders, thus proving Gi-hun’s point that there’s still good in people.

[xenosnack]

In Ho is not Il Nam's son

Hi all,

While doing the dishes I got the idea why InHo can't be Il Nam's son. A lot of evidence suggest - like the milk - that he might be his son, but I don't think so.

My first evidence is the most obvious: In Ho was in the game, would you really think that his father would let his own grandson die? Chaebol life would suggest that, but even then he wouldn't be able to know Jun Ho. Was In Ho and Jun Ho brother in laws?

In the first season of Squid game Il Nam is a player, therefore he couldn't call the Frontman with orders as we see it in the first season. Even if he used the bathroom, do you really think that Gi Hun would let the old go man alone? Maybe, as we know that he is a morally gray character even if you would like to believe it or not.

So the Frontman was getting orders from someone else. Could that be Il Nam's real son? Of course this would only make sense if Il Nam had a son, who he didn't adopt.

Was the Frontman ordered to play the games? I really would like to know if Young Il was a name In Ho came up with, or was it the name of the man who sent him orders in the first season. As the gamemasters and vips think that these people are trash just as the Salesman/Reqruiter did, wouldn't that suggest that In Ho is only another cog in the system.

Il Nam wasn't as cruel as I thought first. While he did come up with the games - with some other rich assholes - I think, he still didn't think of those people as trash, at least he never mentions them this way. This could be a reason for In Ho reaching a position higher up.

[lenorenevermore99]

Y'know I'm starting to think that the one on the box is actually a knocked out Gi-hun. I feel like In-ho might have had him sent back to the other players in the box, with the handcuffs inside (and maybe some other stuff) just to see what they would do with him. It might be a way for In-ho to make Gi-hun lose his faith in humanity

It would be a hard blow for him if he comes to his senses only to see that the people he's trying to save have tied him up, and betrayed him in a sense.

[izzyfishie]

i’ve had a theory for a while now.

perhaps this is a bit controversial, and i very much could be wrong, but this is what i think (and have for a while).

so.. the wall murals in season 2.

it’s kind of difficult to see, but we can very clearly see the spikes with people falling, and a chessboard-looking thing.

there’s also words here.

now, what does all of this mean, you may ask?

a lot of people have theorized that these murals will correlate to the new games. perhaps baduk/GO monkey bars.

but think about it for a second.

if these murals will correlate to the new games, why don’t red light green light, or the pentathlon, or mingle have a mural? why would the gamemakers be so selective? not to mention, there’s nothing involving the dolls/train station that we see in the end of season 2 teaser. nothing about squid game either, which i always assumed would be the last game every year, but who knows.

and the producers already know that we know about the wall theory. why would they give everything away again?

i feel like the wall murals are a red herring of some sort, and there’s really no way to know what the next games are going to be.

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somebody on reddit says that those words state “HODIE MIHI / CRAS TIBI”, which translates to “today me, tomorrow you” in latin. apparently this phrase was often inscribed on tombstones.

finally, the chessboard-looking thing. there’s many crosses, which also symbolize graves and general loss of life. (that also correlates with the tombstone stuff mentioned above!)

the spikes appear to be people falling or clinging onto things. this seems the most obvious — when you fall, you die.

what do all of these things have in common?

death.

i think that the wall mural is all symbolism, particularly for death, and not the games.

and think about it. lots of the contestants are CHOOSING death by voting O (which will eventually lead them to their deaths in the end)

(less serious bit) this is presumably the first year that the money can be split. perhaps the gamemasters were predicting the outcome lol /silly

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am i crazy? hell yes! this theory is so fucking far-fetched and insane but you know what? i said what i said!

this is why i don’t try to guess the games as well lol

[nie13chen]

As much as I wish for it, I don't believe we get a happy ending for In-ho.

What if opposing Gi-hun is some kind of defence mechanism? The more In-ho observes him, the more he's aware of the alternative path he could have chosen, and it hurts.

In-ho still has a sense of justice. He's an ex police officer, so he dedicated his previous life to bringing justice to the world. He kills the doctor in season 1, who wanted to take advantage by helping the guards with the organ trafficking thing. He wants everyone being treated equally in the game (it's another question if that's even possible, btw). The point is that I believe that it's one of the reasons he stayed because he convinced himself that the games are just.

So, watching Gi-hun must show him that he might have chosen the wrong path. And the more he sees himself in Gi-hun, the more he understands that this might be what he actually wished for himself, and he realizes that there's no turning back for him. Even if he stopped the games and left the island, his strong sense of justice wouldn't allow him to be happy with all the blood on his hands. He would always know that it wasn't necessary if he had followed the path Gi-hun chose.

That's why I believe he's going to sacrifice himself as one last act of justice. He's going to make 'a small sacrifice for the greater good' so he can finally find the peace with his brother and the world he has been looking for so long.

[itsmahree]

i wonder what the lee byunghun of squid game universe looks like since noone ever mentioned inho looking like him

[angel-wing-feathers]

A controversial one but if it weren’t for main character plot armor, Sae-Byeok (067) would have won

[kisasan]

what if this is gihun? what if inho joins him for real this time,like he wants to take the games down too...what if he gives gihun his costume (sharing clothes with bf /hj) to disguise him as frontman to "control the games"/take down the VIP'S?

[mrstevenss]

In all seriousness does anyone else think that inho never hurting Gihun is kind of symbolism for how the rich can actively kill civilians but would never hurt somebody that has the same amount of power that they do because they only see someone as human when they have money?

A good example is when he’s with the vips vs all the people deemed as “below him”. He’s so respectful when interacting with the vips, they can do pretty much everything they want - while with the players or his workers he’s quite cruel, giving them strict rules and even personally killing multiple of them without hesitation. He’s quite literally said the games are pretty much just horse betting but with humans. If that’s not a clear display of how little he cares about these people then I dunno what is

I’m just saying. Maybe the reason nothings happened to him is because inho CANT do anything to him because they’re equals now

Idk. Maybe this is just me but I’d like to hear what everyone else thinks

[thisisafork]

SQUID GAME SPOILERS

im so excited for season 3 i could piss

longest tumblr I’ve ever tumblred before idk what I’m doing

I thought it was the front man at first but they have the player jacket on but whoever it is, gi-hun looks upset so maybe dae-ho went over to tell him he panicked and couldn’t bring back the amo CUZ I DO SEE WHAT APEARS TO BE LONG HAIR SO….

im assuming this is sometime after hyun-ju went back to go get amo, but stayed after realizing it was to late to go back and help the others. I wonder if the coffin has Jung-bae or if it’s just empty I DONT KNOW BUT THEY SEEMED CONCERNED perhaps it’s the guard that first died …..

i think no-eul is going to help Jun-ho stop the games.. we can see her outside LOOKING LIKE A ISLAND HMMM she obviously feels off about the whole thing, especially after she saw gyeong-seok playing the games so she probably feels bad for the people, considering she was one of the only guards to make sure the players actually died and weren’t suffering, so I think no-eul and jun-ho’s story line will be a lot in season 3

the front man is PONDERING. I don’t have a lot to say about him. I think him participating in the games for a little has made him a little emotional thinking about his dead wife, mother and his brother, who is still trying to find him. will he stop the games? NO he’s probably gonna give some speech about the games and how all people want is money and shiii while bleeding out or something like right before his death “life is a squid game”

and brooo MIN-SU IS FUCKEDDDDDD BECAUSE NOW ITS JUST GONNA BE NAM-GYU AFTER HIM, HE WILL EITHER FORCE MIN-SU TO HELP HIM OR TRY TO KILL HIM FIRST. bro literally if he didn’t betray se-mi during mingle his chance of survival would be much higher he only made friends with bad people, i know he was scared and anxious (like most people would be) but now he has no one to help or defend him, yea thanos is also terrible but nam-gyu was always listening and on his side even if he didn’t agree with everything PLUS he knows min-su tried to throw that bottle at him to stop him from killing se-mi so he must be furious at him, i feel like it might be possible nam-gyu will od by accident during season 3 now that he has thanos’s necklace

ok now i’m gonna nap

hoping this makes sense