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i love drawing toxic yaoi on company time (ft gigi's ody and anniflamma's poseidon)
#OOC.#SKY DRAWS.#epic#epic the musical#odysseus#poseidon#manwhore au#i guess lmao#ODYSSEUS. / test muse.
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he did, in fact, stab him
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Mythology & Its Connection with IDV
I recently got the time to check Ashes of Memory and was astonished by the number of mythology referenced just in the story mode! As usual, I'll list the connected references instead of delving into the deeper meaning, leaving that to the theorists out there.
First, let's look at the names introduced in the Potion List during Miss DeRoss investigations; Orpheus, Siren Song, Mnemosyne & Hydra are the listed names for each drug alongside their ingredients.
Orpheus is the protagonist of "Orpheus & Eurydice." In the story, the musician travels to the depths of Hell to retrieve his wife, Eurydice, only to fail one of Hades' tests for her freedom. Sirens are human-like creatures with alluring voices. They appear in the Odyssey, where they hunt Odysseus' ship crew before the protagonist saves the ship. Mnemosyne is the goddess of memory and remembrance. She is a member of the Titans and the mother of the muses. The Hydra is a serpentine monster famous for its appearances in the story of Heracles and his Twelve Labors, where it is eventually buried alive by rocks.
Now let's look at the skin/cosmetics available for each member of AOM. (As I can't do all characters in one post, there are too many) Neat-ease hides small references to the character's background in the skins or objects given in each essence.
The following names that shine among the rest are: Phyllis (Entomologist), Pandora (Little Girl) & The Orphan Of Goetia (Prospector.)
The legend of Phyllis recounts the tragic tale of her taking her own life in anguish upon discovering that Demophon, who had been transformed into an almond tree by the gods, would not return to her.
Pandora is mostly famous for opening the jar ( or box, in later renditions of the myth) unleashing the greatest evil of humankind. Leaving only hope as the last thing remaining.
Now, the last one is quite peculiar. The "Goetia" is not from Greek Mythology; instead, it is from Satanism. They're explained in the first of the five sections of the Ars Goetia grimoire, which contains descriptions of the 72 demons that are said to have been summoned by Solomon
Unfortunately, the text never specified which demon the skin references. I hypothesize that it could be Asmodeus, Aim, Caim, or Aamon due to the fire and bird connections.
#୨⎯ “scheduled/queque” ⎯୧#୨⎯ “support” ⎯୧#୨⎯ “author speaks” ⎯୧#idv#identity v#ashes of memory#idv aom#norton campbell#alice deross#alice de ross#melly plinius#orpheus idv#idv journalist#idv prospector#idv little girl#idv novelist#idv entomologist
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Greek Poem- I
Sing to me, O Muse, of the tale profound,
Of Odysseus, the hero renowned,
Who sailed the seas, in war and woe,
On a journey home, through trials unknown.
From Troy he sailed, with his warriors bold,
Bound for Ithaca, his kingdom of old,
Through storms and strife, his courage shone,
Guided by Athena, goddess alone.
But Poseidon, god of sea and storm,
With wrathful fury, to the hero sworn,
Sent tempests fierce to thwart his way,
And test his will, day by day.
On Circe's isle, with her enchanting song,
Odysseus found himself trapped, for long,
Her magic potions, turned his men to swine,
But with Hermes' aid, he broke the spell divine.
Next came the deadly sirens' lure,
Their enchanting voices, oh so pure,
But Odysseus, with ears of wax,
Sailed past unharmed, through their attacks.
Then Scylla and Charybdis, the monsters dire,
One a beast, the other a maelstrom sire,
Through their deadly straits, the hero sailed,
His crew decimated, but victory prevailed.
At last, to the land of the Phaeacians he came,
Where he told his tale, his heart in flame,
Of his long journey, of his trials and pain,
Till at last, to Ithaca, home he'd regain.
But upon his return, more challenges arose,
His beloved wife besieged, by unwelcome foes,
With cunning mind and loyal heart,
Odysseus devised a plan, to play his part.
Disguised as a beggar, he bided his time,
Testing the suitors, their sins and crime,
Till the moment came, for vengeance pure,
With bow and arrow, his aim sure.
With a swift shot, he struck them down,
The suitors fell, in Ithaca's town,
And once more, Odysseus reigned as king,
His loyal wife by his side, in joy they sing.
Thus ends the tale of brave Odysseus,
His journey long, but victorious,
Through trials and tribulations, he did endure,
A hero's heart, brave and pure.
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Also I had a musing I would hope you could share your own opinion on.
I'm so glad you find him as interesting and intriguing as I do C! 🌈
I'm a sucker for Greek mythos and I cannot wait to see how ur Draco’s journey will unfold. His aesthetic lends itself to the classics, lends itself to the analogy which is why I think I often make this connection. On top of his character being simply compelling, he has an air of timeless and competitiveness that reminds me of the age old Herculean hero that stand the test of time.
I don't like to prophesies too much bc I love to go in reading things blind (I avoid conspiracies and teasers like the plague!) but I cannot help myself in getting excited to see how he will confront and face crossroads and compare them to the great ancients.
If our golden boy will be more likely to pull an Apollo or become Achilles. The thing that makes characters interesting imo is how the deal 'in the complicated'. When they are taken away something they want, or confronted with a problem, do they go red or do they mourn in the quiet and peace? And I think from what little we know of in Draco from the chapters of what we've seen, he is a character that has more than what meets the eye. which makes him all the more compelling to see what happens when he splits.
We all know the well told romance of Achilles and Patroclus on how they were lovers/friends but also fellows competitors and Patroclus went to the Trojan war just bc his lover was destined for greatness there. He was a supportive bf haha. Achilles was very much following (up until the death of Patroclus) a very, 'healthy' doctrine to war. He fell in line and was excellent.
But when Patroclus was killed nameless grief took over Achilles and went genuinely insane with his screams of cry and revenge. He cried so horribly that even his mother Thetis could hear in the depths of the sea and went up to comfort his son. He kept the corpse of his lover in his tent for the entirety of the war as he extracted his revenge that was so bloody it was feral. He slept with Patroclus's corpse, delusional kept it, and threatened anyone who suggested to remove it. He wanted to be buried with him by the time the war was done and made Odysseus swear that he would see this happen. Obv as we know he killed Hector.
I remember shivering in class when I was a teen remembering the poem in the Iliad Book 18, that, he said, 'neither food nor drink shall glide down my throat, for as long as he [Patroclus] is mangled in my tent I only crave murder and blood and the rattling of dying'.
So does Draco follow the same blood wounded vengeful fate like Achilles? Will he move heaven and earth to go on his own Taylor swift reputation era tour? Or will he be a different drum, one of peace and calm like the story of Apollo?
The story of Apollo, as the God of music and dance, prophecies and healing (also God of the Sun, queue the analogy of why I think of Draco for obvious blonde hero reasons :P) fell in love with a mortal man named Hyacinthus who was as well a Spartan warrior prince famous for his beauty and everyone wanted him. men and women, the whole lot!
Include the God of the West wind Zephyrus. But Hyacinthus chose Apollo among his many admirers and they had the best romance dude. They would do all kinds of things together like music, dance, archery, they were both extremely sporty (as Leo is!!).
But Zephyrus was rotting with jealousy of their romance, that while they were playing archery, he blew Zephyrus's arrow off course and it hit him in the head and killed him.
Apollo was obviously inconsolable and mourned his lover and tried to commit su**ide many times hoping to join his lover in death. And bc he was inconsolable, he decided to always remember Hyacinthus by naming the famous flower by him and made music and games after him. And Hyacinthus bloom every spring now.
So it will be interesting to see whether Draco will be the type to be bloodthirsty, angry for his Harry or if he is a blonde hero that's more of a mourner?
These are the kind of musings I catch myself thinking of Draco and would love to know where ur heads at when it comes to it :)
oh wow, lots of theories here. so i read the greek classics much too long ago and most of what i remember is related to the web comic Lore Olympus tbh 😅. i'd say i don't really see a hero vs mourner dichotomy in the drarry story im writing as it's not one of war and violence, but more one of two people trying to find their way back to one another. they've moved past the bloodthirsty, angry part of their lives and it's more a question of coming at a relationship from two different perspectives with the same end goal and trying not to destroy each other in the process.
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-. nyanya test muses~
Just muses I'm 'hmm-hmm'-ing about, I might be writing them already but haven't added them properly and yknow anything I want it to mean >:3
Jiang Cheng | age verse-dependent 18-25+ | he/him (the grudge;)
Canon character from MXTX's MDZS and related media, I'm mostly familiar with the books and some things from The Untamed, I am actually watching the donghua right now, but very slow & chill about it. Depending on verse, he is either a disciple/heir to the Yunmeng Jiang clan or its leader. Terribly repressed, very angy because he's insecure, and he knows no feeling better than he knows grief. Visually speaking, I like his donghua/manwha appearance the most, the tight bun? The mean face? Beautiful.
Xiao Xingchen | 20s | he/him (the righteous;)
Canon character from MXTX's MDZS and related media, as above in terms of what my portrayal is based on. Rogue cultivator, student of legendary cultivator Baoshan Sanren, painfully good, righteous, came down from the Mountain™ to 'help save the world', he will always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and he's just too good. Canonically blind in main verse.
Odysseus | 20s-30s | he/him (the seafarer;)
I had him around a while but then muse vanished and sometimes it resurfaces, bare-bones stuff. Canon character from Homer's Odyssey with major influences from EPIC: The Musical and my own interpretation of his psyche. It's the guy that's taking 20 years to come back from a war the guy in charge said would be 'over swiftly'. Cunning, quick-witted and sharp-tongued, he tries to solve situations by using his brain until his hand is ultimately forced into brawn. Also, apparently his name basically means 'to piss people off' lmao.
WIP/UC+
#;test muses#;psa#these are usually not very high muse either lmao SO YOU KNOW i'll still write 'em if you throw me something for them but SLOW#i started that 'depending on verse' sentence for jiang cheng and never finished it#GOSHT HE NEURODIVERGENCY
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Aphrodite, daughter of Zeus
Will be found on this blog as a Verse 5.
I often do write villains/morally grey characters/anti heros. I however was not expecting Aphrodite to have so many ugly sides, I only remembered her as spreading love and beauty all around and being dedicated to her mission. It's a good twist I can use however - Her being this beauty obsessed tyran. As I do mix canons with oc ideas I can picture my Aphrodite over here to pose as this exquisite Goddess with such a warm smile on her lips and adores everything beautiful and wants everything to Stay Beautiful - in a cruel way. She would change your face if it's not Beautiful enough. She perhaps even lives in this gorgeous place and has many guests over all the time in her beautiful white dress and when they visit, she shows them her little Circus : Cages of deformed humans she watches for entertainment as to her, there should be only Beauty. In a twisted way yes she is Beautiful outside but Oh so Ugly inside.
Doom, son of Nyx
Can be found on my second multi muse blog : here.
He is a freshly created muse of mine who can be found on my new multi muse blog for my male characters. I name him Doom (named Moros in the Greek mythology however I like Doom better). He is the son of Nyx, goddess of the Night. I write him as punished by the Olympians for not carrying his role impartially that is to guide humans to their doom. He interfers, which goes beyond his role and impacts Fate with a capital F. He is therefore trapped to live a human life re-incarnated over and over, under the name of Geun and is tested by the Olympians. For his development, I planned him to mix with humans in ways that actually make his will to interfer even bigger : it's worse now. I want another god to free him from his punishment and for him to unleash the Beast. With his memories back he will want to get revenge against the Olympians and play even more.
Calypso, daughter of Atlas
Can be found on my first multi muse blog : here.
So my issue with Calypso is that she is my typical character, I always always write crazies obsessed with the love of their loves and would kill themselves out of love. So yes she will be completely insane for Odysseus as I will stick to Homer a little, but I want to add a twist to her in order to add more to this muse. She will come with a modern verse as well.
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Why Are Greek Epics So Well Known?
Greek epics are among the most celebrated works of literature in Western history. Composed in ancient Greece, these narratives have influenced countless generations, shaping literary traditions and cultural identities. The most famous of these epics, The Iliad and The Odyssey, attributed to the poet Homer, explore themes of heroism, honor, and the complexities of human experience. In this article, we will explore the reasons behind the enduring fame of Greek epics, examining their historical context, literary characteristics, cultural significance, and lasting impact on literature and society.
Historical Context of Greek Epics
To understand why Greek epics are so well known, it is essential to consider their historical context. These works emerged during a time of significant social, political, and cultural change in ancient Greece.
The Age of Heroes
Greek epics were composed during the Geometric and Archaic periods (approximately 800 to 500 BCE). This era is often referred to as the Age of Heroes. It was a time when oral traditions flourished, and storytelling became a vital aspect of Greek culture. The Greeks celebrated their heroic past, and epics served as a means of preserving their history and values.
The Trojan War
The backdrop for The Iliad is the Trojan War, a legendary conflict between the Greeks and the city of Troy. This war is central to Greek mythology and serves as a source of inspiration for numerous epic narratives. The story of the Trojan War encapsulates themes of honor, revenge, and the consequences of human actions.
The characters involved, such as Achilles, Hector, and Odysseus, are archetypal heroes whose stories have resonated through centuries. Their experiences reflect the ideals and struggles of ancient Greek society, making them relatable across generations.
Literary Characteristics of Greek Epics
Greek epics are characterized by specific literary elements that contribute to their popularity and recognition. These features enhance the storytelling experience and establish a distinct narrative style.
Length and Structure
Greek epics are long narratives, often composed in dactylic hexameter. This meter consists of six feet per line, with each foot containing one long syllable followed by two short syllables. The use of this rhythmic structure creates a musical quality, making the epics suitable for oral recitation.
The epics are typically divided into various sections, with each section focusing on a specific theme or character. This structure allows for the exploration of complex ideas and relationships.
Invocation of the Muse
At the beginning of Greek epics, the poet often invokes the Muse, a divine inspiration source. This invocation sets the tone for the narrative and emphasizes the poem‘s significance. For example, in The Iliad, Homer calls upon the Muse to help him tell the story of Achilles’ wrath. This tradition highlights the relationship between art and divinity in ancient Greek culture.
Use of Epithets
Epithets are descriptive phrases used to characterize individuals and enhance the narrative. For example, Achilles is often referred to as “swift-footed,” while Odysseus is called “wily.” These epithets serve to reinforce the characters’ traits and make them more memorable to the audience.
Themes of Heroism and Fate
Greek epics are rich in themes of heroism, honor, and fate. The heroes face challenges that test their strength, courage, and moral integrity. Their struggles often involve personal sacrifice and the pursuit of glory, reflecting the values of ancient Greek society.
Fate plays a crucial role in these narratives, as characters grapple with their destinies. The tension between free will and predetermined fate creates a compelling narrative dynamic that continues to resonate with readers.
Cultural Significance of Greek Epics
The cultural impact of Greek epics extends beyond their literary merit. These works have shaped Greek identity, philosophy, and artistic expression.
Preservation of History and Values
Greek epics serve as a repository of history and cultural values. They preserve the stories and traditions of ancient Greece, providing insights into the beliefs and practices of the time. The heroes in these narratives exemplify the ideals of bravery, loyalty, and honor, shaping the moral framework of Greek society.
Influence on Philosophy and Thought
The themes and characters in Greek epics have influenced philosophical thought throughout history. The exploration of human nature, ethics, and the human condition in these narratives has resonated with philosophers, including Plato and Aristotle. Their reflections on virtue, morality, and the pursuit of knowledge can be traced back to the ideas presented in these epics.
Impact on the Arts
Greek epics have inspired countless works of art, literature, and performance throughout history. From ancient Greek theater to modern adaptations, these narratives have left an indelible mark on artistic expression.
The themes of love, war, and adventure found in The Iliad and The Odyssey have provided rich material for playwrights, poets, and artists across cultures. This ongoing engagement with Greek epics underscores their timeless relevance.
Lasting Influence on Literature
The legacy of Greek epics extends to contemporary literature, where their themes and narrative structures continue to resonate with writers and audiences alike.
Epic Tradition
The influence of Greek epics can be seen in later epic poetry from various cultures. Writers like Virgil, Dante, and Milton drew inspiration from Homeric themes and narrative techniques. The Aeneid, for example, echoes the structure and character archetypes found in The Iliad and The Odyssey.
Modern Adaptations
Greek epics have been adapted into various modern forms, including novels, films, and theater. These adaptations reinterpret the themes and characters for contemporary audiences. For instance, films like “Troy” and “O Brother, Where Art Thou?” draw on the narratives and motifs of Greek epics, bringing them to life in new contexts.
Narrative Techniques
The narrative techniques found in Greek epics, such as the use of flashbacks and multiple perspectives, have influenced modern storytelling. Writers employ these techniques to create complex narratives that engage readers on multiple levels.
Educational Importance
Greek epics play a vital role in education, particularly in the study of literature and history. They are often included in school curricula, providing students with insights into ancient cultures and the development of literary traditions.
Literary Analysis
Studying Greek epics encourages critical thinking and literary analysis. Students examine themes, character development, and narrative techniques, fostering a deeper appreciation for literature. This analysis also highlights the universality of human experiences and emotions depicted in these ancient texts.
Cultural Literacy
Familiarity with Greek epics contributes to cultural literacy. The references and themes found in these works permeate Western literature, art, and philosophy. Understanding these narratives enhances one’s comprehension of later texts and cultural expressions.
The Timelessness of Greek Epics
One of the reasons Greek epics remain well known is their timelessness. The themes and values they explore are universal, transcending the boundaries of time and culture.
Exploration of Human Experience
Greek epics delve into the complexities of human experience, addressing themes of love, loss, ambition, and the struggle for identity. These fundamental aspects of existence resonate with readers across generations.
Relatable Characters
The characters in Greek epics are multifaceted and relatable. Their struggles, desires, and flaws mirror the human condition, allowing readers to connect with them on a personal level. The internal conflicts faced by heroes like Achilles and Odysseus continue to evoke empathy and reflection.
Conclusion
The enduring fame of Greek epics can be attributed to their historical significance, literary characteristics, cultural impact, and lasting influence on literature and society. Works like The Iliad and The Odyssey not only preserve the values and traditions of ancient Greece but also explore themes that resonate across time.
Through their exploration of heroism, fate, and the complexities of human experience, Greek epics have left an indelible mark on literature and culture. Their narratives continue to inspire writers, artists, and thinkers, ensuring that these ancient tales remain relevant and celebrated in the modern world. As we engage with Greek epics, we honor the richness of human storytelling and the timeless nature of our shared experiences.
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Losing themselves in the darkness.
This land confuses your mind.
Is that what had happened? Through Odysseus's denial, through his despair, through his desperate means to get home— HAD HE LOST HIMSELF? After insisting for so many years that the King remained the same, was it the Land of the Underworld that had caused him to change? To embrace the darkness that lies underneath? No... Athena had told him all along, hadn't she? TO TURN OFF HIS HEART? Poseidon only reminded him, hadn't he? TO KEEP IT CLOSED?
It was Odysseus who had brought destruction upon himself and his men. Odysseus, King of Ithaca, who had decided that destruction would be no more.
He knows Hades is planning something. Why else would he have shown up to begin with? That was the thing about Gods. Their precious Egos and their Reputations. The God of the Underworld didn't care they were there. He didn't care about their tribulations, their journey, their obstacles. Just like his Brother, Hades cared that they had disrespected him by not asking. And Odysseus... Odysseus, King of Ithaca, is TIRED of ASKING.
Tired of the games. Tired of the Gods' Will. Tired, and angry. Angry at everyone who had gotten in his way of getting back to his wife and son. So, so angry that the tribulations, at the journey, and their obstacles— THAT HE'S PAST CARING. It's past the point of respect at this point. Kindness, pity, mercy... that wasn't what the Gods wanted. "If the Underworld is like every other isle..." Odysseus begins, low. "Then like ANY OTHER FOE, I'll force it to be at bay."
All to make sure they get home again. WHO CARES IF YOU'RE UNJUST?
It's a dangerous game. Dangerous to threaten these Lands with the King of them right in front of him. The crew still further out by the river, still awaiting him and what he could've possibly learned from the Prophet. He was facing the God of the Underworld alone. With no fancy trick up his sleeve to get them away in just the nick of time. Odysseus does not NEED redemption. Odysseus does not NEED perception. Odysseus does not NEED to remember, to understand.
"I don't need to rest." He replies firmly. "I can't rest until I get home. Your Land remains untouched. The Dead have not been disturbed-" A lie, but the Captain won't admit to the things he's heard. Won't admit that the Underworld had brought him right to his crew. Won't admit to where the dead have GRIPPED him so tightly. And he won't admit that for one, tiny moment, he had almost ALLOWED the dead to drag him into the river. "You've no reason to not allow us to leave."
And yet, Hades would only continue. Only telling him that this Land's confusion is no trick. It only reveals what is deep within. Revealing to you the things you plan to keep locked away. But the Dead... the Dead still have their stories to tell. They still HAUNT, no matter how hard you try. But the dead isn't the only thing waiting for him. He KNOWS IT, deep down. The words the Prophet spoke to him. The words that the Underworld God only just repeats to him so much more clearly. "No." he croaks out. "No!" He yells then, his hands going to the side of his temples as he holds his head. "I-I can't-" His breathing quickens. THE SACRIFICE OF MAN. "I can't-" THE PORTRAYALS OF BETRAYAL. "Th-They can't-" THE BROTHER'S FINAL STAND.
I see a man who gets to make it home alive. But it's-
NO
"STOP IT!" He screams again.
LONGER
He was only mortal.
YOU.
Losing himself in the darkness.
Satisfying his Ego ? Thought was laughable, as the satisfaction he desired was something a mortal struggled to give him, another soul struggled to understand, and no other member of his family couldn't ever give him. His Ego had been satisfied by the moment he had been acknoweldged as God of the Underworld among many chessboards. Yet who would give him the comfort that Fate threads could be merciful towards his protegees ? Yet who could ease his heart from incessant torment of awareness of a witch's suffering, whose hand, invisible, supporting, wished eagerly to give her enough hope to hold to life ? Yet who could give him the comfort of seeing mind of Lelouch vi Britannia freed from the lonely war he had engaged in against himself ? Yet who could give him the comfort that no tragedy would dramatically touch another soul ? Who could prove to him that humanity could do better than eternally bring souls back to his realm, losing themselves in the darkness ? When he will be generous enough to show a Time Lord claiming to be from same realm of the Gods that this ascension had been made without knowing all the nooks and crannies of the Creators ? Satisfying his Ego ?
Mortals and their reduced view of what could please him ---
Receiving flatteries were intented to give to the ground water needed for a future blessing, for a future acceptance of a simple request. Nyx twins used and accustomed themselves to that tatic for gain his cooperation, turning that manipulative move so common he shouldn't comment on it, would refuse any sign of rebellion or disagreement for be convinved otherwise at the anticipation of another move inside another direction than their wishes. How many times did he suffered it from Athena herself ? How many times did Pegasus begged for having another perception of what he received, denying him inside the current body he had inside these circusmtances ? How many Gold Saints requested mercy in their eyes as his Specters were about to snatching their lives ? Thousands of years passed even since their first introduction has been made, Odysseus and Hades. Thousands of years had passed even since he learned Athena's manners to giving herself the role of the nice Goddess, using other mortals for that benefit. Thousands of years had passed even since he had been accoustumed to souls begging towards him. Thousands of years had passed even since he was tear out begging out of another soul --- Amused and condescending smile welcomed his features. There was no need to bring an oral comment on the matter of his thoughts. It doesn't matter if he was picturing him likewise his other members of his family. It doesn't matter if he assumed he was created within the same wood of Poseidon, in which he suffered cruetly of his Lands, and had to begging for flattery for desiring an good ending to his journey --- Satisfying his Ego ? Humantiy can love themselves long enough for not wishing destruction of themselves ? Humanity could watch themselves over the mirror of their own darkness and admit all the degradations their made on their souls, instead to blaming another God as an argurment ? Sympathy won't be confessed outloud. Compassionate features wouldn't be predominant Odysseus will not realize until arms would embrace him again inside the Underworld, he was considered as another of his children, in which everything has been given for giving the most brightful light upon his soul --- acting as an Father just wanting the best for each soul, but limited to an realm in which the Dead needed find that happiness they didn't get within the living realm or be horribly pushined by Underworld law.
Hades, once more, without an Lord. Though, this time around, reflection of many souls confused themselves within his eyes as Odysseus tone transformed. Ah, that manner to call his name was the sweet melody of Lelouch, that eternal anger towards him --- but how could be blame him ? It was better if he embraced responsabilities for how the Fates hadn't been avoided in the manner he had wished it could be. It was better if he was embracing reponsabilities of an tragedy in which himself had been an witness. It was for the best of other players soul, damaged by circusmtances, only inside that chessboard, he was treated as the Villain, the Game Master who planned that tragedy all along --- Nevertheless, that passing thoughts, in which pain resonated within an amused smile, managed to be replaced by gentleness of the remark. There was no explanation, no excuse that could satisfy him. Mortals weren't SUPPOSED to enter his realm without any kind of PERMISSION. Mortals couldn't consider one door of the Underworld as an free entry in case of need. It was the Underworld. It was the Underworld hence no sweet realm to take vacancy --- Silently, nevertheless, he listened attempting an explanation, as fragile it will be. ❝ Have you then considered, in your great toil of labor, that the Underworld was like any island ? Have you then considered, in the fervor of the moment, that a door presented undisclosed to the eyes of mortals, must be opened ? ❞ Remembrances towards an island in which he would use the metaphor generated implicit inscreased playfulness within his features. ❝ Didn't you rather seek this door in the hope of seeing your journey completed, ignoring even the laws imposed on this place, forgetting an obligatory politeness ? Would you have asked for a personal audience if I had not come personally to welcome you, or would you have taken advantage of a moment to flee like an intruder without thanking the host ? ❞ Gentleness upon his tone was insisted upon, for be inside an generous mood.
None of them were going to receive an foreshadowing of an perception of an Underworld's torture for be pushined to had dared touched his Lands in an offensive manner. Eventually, in middle of their conversation, an physical pain would have been temporary than tourments of his words. Odysseus won't be spared. Lelouch vi Britannia needed his perception tear apart for understanding the tragedy he created towards himself, and understanding how dramatic offered path of redemption has been destroyed by his actions --- in which complete forgiveness was on the hands of an spiteful Deimos that will never stop tourment him. The Golden Witch needed her perception to growing larger for understanding how much she was loved, no matter she thought the opposite, no matter how she sensed herself trapped inside an horrible Fate in which the odds wouldn't giving her that wanted miracle. Battler Ushiromiya needed to remember, Battler Ushiromiya needed to understand the comic tragedy he was trapped with, that the odds explained themselves. Battler Ushiromiya needed to embracing his own darkness, accepting them, for made another journey upon discovery of himself gentle. Deimos needed to remember where his place was. ❝ No other choice, mh, you said ? ❞ He playfully mused upon that thought. ❝ Isn't it a cry of love from you that you envied this place so much that the prospect of the Underworld clouded your mind with a well-deserved rest ? This is the only way in which there would be no choice --- unfortunately, the smell of a living being is felt, isn't that a contradiction ? ❞ Amusement sound escaped his lips.
Impact of his knowledgeable gaze will always remaining an delicate pleasure himself could understand every corner. Knowing those ocean eyes aware of circumstances be spotted or not didn't mattered at all within the big scheme he created with Fates threads. Knoweldge was an power that allowed all kind of manipulation, and it was all depending of the observer's gaze, tourmented and trapped inside an subjective perspective for not perceiving the distance of an objective one. Aren't the point of themselves, as divinities, to living inside such view circumstances could be considered otherwise, and no matter an outcome could be made, if they were clever enough, it can be useful towards an associated intent ? It was understandable Odysseus would refuse the knoweldge and the visions he had been welcomed with. Oh, in some manner, it was an reflection of something he recently experienced --- Lady Bernkastel showed to an boy how things were, and Deimos had showing up not so long afterwards inside his realm, negociating. An soul for an soul. His lamentation treated as a representation of the threat he posed, in claiming Alois Trancy's soul, had pushed the main concerned to give his soul, even using his desire as a pressure point. ❝ This fog in your mind, this oppressive shadow that makes you suffocate inside, is the price to pay, small compared to the eternal torments that you could feel to know and to admit to having to face by the courage of your mind and your decisions. ❞ His voice was gentle, as everything remained horribly recent within his own mind. There will be no happy ending regardless. There will be nothing that can stop an tragedy on the way. Compassionate features allowed themselves to appear, regardless if there was always that supposed distanced lack of brutal emotionality inside his own expression. Odysseus's anger wasn't towards the God of the Underworld hence he doesn't take it personally. Fates weren't kind. Oh, among the Gods, he always has been the most tourmented by the Fates. Endlessly pulled inside the scene of an tragedy he had the terrible role to turn it comic --- If the Witch of Illusions learned perfomance art by reflecting an golden butterfly struggling upon her own identity, the manners of lies with Lelouch, he was the origin of that tragic comedy, that eternal divine tragic comedy associated to his name given by the Fates … ❝ You will see your wife and child again, who will have waited for you with indecipherable patience, but many other torments await you. ❞ Inside the Purgatory, he would have expressed that sentence in that beautiful Red of Truth, an unbreakable one. ❝ Perhaps you would have thought that finishing your quest would end the torments experienced by your heart ? Perhaps you would have thought that rest would be given to the hero who has given so much to the Gods ? In the eternal greatness that you represent, recognition of the Gods is difficult to receive, and Athena has always been deeply stingy with compliments. She always sees a potential beyond what mortals can imagine, and invites them into a long journey where many things will be to give. Isn't a power that you have now ? ❞
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muses. /myo͞oz/
all muses are subject to change. that being said, muses are highly dependent on activity, mentality, and more. I do not write all my muses ( or any, for that matter ) complacent with the lore and mythos given in their respective locations. they are all heavily headcanon inspired, with their own lore and thoughts behind their character. as such, I do my best to bring them to life in a way that displays this, while honoring and respecting their sources.
muses taken from mythology.
odysseus of ithaca - ( open )
penelope of ithaca - ( test )
polites - ( open )
athena - ( open )
poseidon - ( open )
zeus - ( open )
aphrodite - ( open )
medusa - ( open )
apollo - ( open )
**calypso - ( open )
circe - ( open )
patroclus - ( open )
telemachus - ( open )
a variety of other gods and monsters ( request/plotting only )
**note: I will not outright write triggering content, but I do heavily portray calypso as an abuser and obsessive of odysseus. she will act as such ic, talking of him as if he is the love of her life, in humiliating ways, manipulation, and more. this will not be ignored, but it will not be romanticized.
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if u guys aren't following me on the kesha song app ur really missin out on this hilarious sound (+ obligatory gigi and anniflamma design cred!!!!!)
#the comments im getting are just as funny#SKY DRAWS.#epic#epic the musical#odysseus#poseidon#manwhore au#odysseus x poseidon#OOC.#ODYSSEUS. / test muse.
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So, I discovered EPIC: The Musical (yes, I am late to the party), and now I cannot get the idea of Odysseus!Wyll out of my head. Or at least, take inspiration from Odysseus, heck, even people like Hagen of Tronje, to prep up the backstory he has. Aka yes, I was always annoyed by the Folk Hero background and its stupid implication of good hero, a nice person. Just bah! I am just like Great, I am already testing Zariel and originally planned on testing Lae'zel. Ergo three test muses.
Thoughts?
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Hello👋 can you talk about asteroid Circe in Capricorn conjunct midheaven?? Thx
hi - please, everyone, the more details the better. the house that it aspects from could help with interpretation.
circe capricorn: you may take your presence in the world a bit too seriously - not everyone is supposed to become a god, queen, or famous in a lifetime. you’d be best served taking some of the expectations and responsibilities off of yourself. you will find that life gets better when you aren’t anxious to be perfect. you may even find that success comes more readily then. that being said you are likely a great presence to behold. you like circe may be pretty intimidating due to your power.
circe-mc: positive aspects: you could have a reputation that emphasizes your strength, power, and mysticism. you may find jobs that rely on manipulation to be perfect for you (law, sales, politics, tv personality, healthcare professions, teaching, etc.). you are likely leader material - people look to you to tell them what needs to be done and how to do it. negative aspects: you may struggle with keeping long term goals because those around around you are constantly testing your ability to adapt to sudden and extreme changes. your reputation may consist only of the terrible things you do (some people remember circe was the witch who turned odysseus’s men into pigs than manipulated their son into killing him). you may be frequently stepped on or used by the masculine energy around you: a boss who steals your work, a co-worker who is trying to be seen over you, a lover who has no intentions of being loyal or staying long-term, etc.
hope this helps.
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# DARABEATHA ― 𝐋𝐎𝐖 𝐀𝐂𝐓𝐈𝐕𝐈𝐓𝐘 Independent & selective 𝐌𝐔𝐋𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐔𝐒𝐄 only feat. 𝐅𝐆𝐎 𝐌𝐔𝐒𝐄𝐒 Written by Smol (+18;she/her). For my own comfort, please do not follow if you are under 18. Rules under read more ! / Important ! : my portrayal will be based on my muses set as summonable servants (set on FGO) + bits of historical facts + my character’s original source; in regards to their fate interpretations, some might differ from what is established in canon / Rules and muses under read more ! / chibi commissions post
LIST OF MUSES :
Primary : Constantine XI (rider) / about ; Ashwatthama (archer) ; Vlad III (slighty canon div) ; Jason (saber) ; Camazotz (temp. assassin) ; Odysseus (rider) ; Daybit (crypter) ; Tezcatlipoca (grand assassin) ; Charlemagne (saber) Moctezuma II (Avenger) ; Duryodhana (rider) ; Ritsuka Fujimaru (master) ; kukulkan (-) ; tlaloc (pretender) ; Nitocris (caster) ; Moriarty (ruler) ; Nero Claudius (saber) ; Asclepius (caster) ; Antonio Salieri (Avenger) ; Morgan le Fay (Berserker) ; Baobhan Sith (Archer) ; Barghest (saber) ; Oberon (pretender) ; L.ucifer (?) ; M.ichael (?) ; Edmond Dantes (Avenger) ; Arjuna (Archer) ;
Secondary: Ritsuka Fujimaru ( based on R.itsuka F.ujimaru Doesn’t get it ) ; Hakuno Kishinami (fate/extra CCC) ; billy the kid (archer) ; Sherlock Holmes (Ruler) ; Diarmuid (lancer) ; EMIYA (archer) ; Mandricardo (rider) ; Prometheus (tbt ) ; Hermes (tbt) ; caeneus ( lancer ) ; Medb ( Rider) ; Dumuzid (?) ; Tristan (archer)
note: muses who have their own blogs/used to write but could make an appearance in here if im too tired to switch blogs/ or upon request: gilgamesh (caster & Archer) Nero Claudius (saber) nitocris (caster), arash (Archer) Mandricardo (rider), Edmond Dantes (avenger), Sherlock Holmes (ruler), Achilles (rider), Robin Hood (Archer) , Billy the kid (Archer) , Lancelot (saber), Ishtar (Archer), Ereshkigal (lancer), Francis Drake (rider), Blackbeard (canon divergent + rider) + saito hajime (saber), dioscuri (castor rider)
SELECTIVE & MUTUALS only.
this is a TEST blog, meaning that I am currently testing this muse
VERY HIGHLY SPORADIC ACTIVITY. My attention wanders all over the place so this blog will remain as low acitvity, If this isn´t ur cup of tea then I would advice to consider again following.
I am not an expert historian so I (politely) ask u to pls understand if in any case I happen to make a mistake, it´s due to that (*꒦ິㅂ꒦ີ)
mun & muse are both +18 (mun is 21 currently!)
Not affiliated with the Fate fandom.
Duplicates & crossover friendly !!
If you are not aware of F.ate as a franchise or the game F.go pls do not feel scared of interacting! there is no need to have prior knowledge about the universe where my muse comes from and if you have any questions i’m always happy to answer !
Alongside this post, please do not assume or dictate me how to write my own muse, this has happened before and it makes me very uncomfortable (*꒦ິㅂ꒦ີ)
Due to his character, this blog will remain as Fewship & very HIGHLY selective. I´m more inclined to ship with friends / people i know / people I can click OOC wise more, yet if you are interested in developing something between our muses, be it platonic or romantic, I am certainly not against that if the chemistry is present ! Aside this, i will not ship with underaged muses nor with underaged muns.
muse does not equal mun & I do not condone my muse´s actions.
And that´s it! apologies if any of these sounded harsh, let´s just respecc each other and have fun! thank u for dropping by!
❝ ― ❞ "ㅤ"
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(for the maybe-never-day i ever write a skirk muse loooooool)
has a weird duality of being loud and not-loud??
like, normally, she speaks quietly and is very philosophical
her facial expression doesn’t change a lot either - it’s not like she’s blank-faced, but it’s hard to read what she’s thinking and feeling based on her expression. and that expression only barely changes every now and then, like small twitches of an eyebrow or a brief quirk of her lips.
but then u put her in front of a monster and she becomes some bright-eyed grinning maniac. she finds a great thrill in testing and sharpening herself against others, be it creature or human
very blunt outside of her impromptu philosophy lessons
always calls childe “kiddo”. always. whether he’s an actual kiddo or an adulte
childe is probably the most entertaining little beanstalk she’s seen in god knows how long. she finds him funny in the same way my sibling did when i was nine and thought you finished school after fourth grade. aka cutely stupid and he had to grow on her tbh
like she originally took him on bc im too much of a softie and hc that skirk is a nice-ish person deep deeeeeep down so she just didn’t want to abandon another weak child to the abyss
just wanted to teach him to stop holding his damn sword wrong and somehow she ended up with adoption papers?
she doesn’t really want to adopt him, but he does make for a funny sentient pet at least?
oh yeah writing this up reminded me of a fic draft i accidentally deleted where she used to be friends with the in-universe ajax that childe got his name from. i had some wild ass worldbuilding/headcanons for that draft lol
EDIT: WAIT I THINK I REMEMBER THE PREMISE FOR THE FIC? I THINK? uhhhh something about in-universe ajax the great having a feud with uhhhhhhh odysseus? agamemnon?? I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE TWO and something something khaenriah
and oh yeah she’s a chronic smoker.
#(me putting down notes and going ''i wrote skirk before but i have no idea what shes like? how did i even write her'')#(ill update this if i remember anything else lmaoooo)#ooc | (written and loved and forgotten);
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Thank you for the tag 😛
So here's my opinion on the subject :
For starters, your story is fundamentally different from Greek mythology.
There is that Disney™ charm and innocence that, while perfectly fitting the story, is completely absent from the myths, that aim for more epic, tragic stories, or for allegoric representations of real life.
So it's already very difficult to compare. I did find some stuff, though.
1. Aster as Orpheus
(though I agree that both love their wives immensely and would do anything to protect them)
Aster as "Epic the musical" Odysseus ? Maybe. Jay made him a bit more conventionally heroic than in the myths. Odysseus is a hardened soldier, whose body count is pretty high (especially with a whole lot of suitors and dead Trojans).
I don't want to try babying Aster, ofc, especially since he matured, but he's still softer than Odysseus.
(and thank you for making me picture Aster doxxing himself to Polyphemus 😂)
Orpheus is a way better pick, especially since Aster is a musician in your human alternative universe. And Aster seems to love music.
Plus Orpheus is the student (and sometimes son) of Apollo. Apollo is the god of many things, including music, medicine, arts and the sun*.
With Aster being a star (and befriending the sun), it's even better.
*Helios is the main sun god. It's more secondary for Apollo.
Fun fact : Orpheus' voice is stronger than the sirens'
Fun fact n°2 : his voice is so enchanting than even the wildest beasts calm down and listen to him. Heck, even the trees are charmed ! Reminds me of Aster's magic.
Though it's clear that whatever death Aster has is way happier than Orpheus'... just make sure he doesn't come across crazy women in the woods and normally he's safe 😂.
Fortunately, after Orpheus died, his soul was reunited with Eurydice's.
2. KOW!Asha as Antigone
Medea isn't that bad of an idea, honestly. But I also have another pick : Antigone.
Again, let's ignore the unhappy ending.
Antigone : she fought with her king/Uncle Creon and was deeply against injustice, though for wildly different reasons. She was so determined that she was ready to die (and did) for her values.
She was a courageous young girl.
Other potential candidates
+ The muses : goddesses of the arts, who inspired heroes. There isn't a muse of drawing, but if I had to pick one : Polymnia. She's the muse of rhetoric and poetry.
And I wouldn't really compare her to Ariadne. Though it would be neat to mention that Dionysus offers her a crown of stars as a wedding gift.
3. KOW!Magnifico as king Pygmalion or Tantalus
Thank you anon for precising "DISNEY" Hades. In the mythology, they don't match at all.
Hades is the rightful lord of the underworld (even Elysium, which is kinda like an ancient Greek heaven).
He does his job very well and never tried to kill his brothers.
Which king did Magnus resemble more ?
King Pygmalion, not to be confused with the sculptor who fell in love with his creation.
Like Magnus, he was power hungry and murdered his uncle and his sister's (Dido) husband. He then steals all their riches and Dido's forced to run away.
Ngl, I had to dig pretty deep to find this one. More well-known kings are either not evil (like Odysseus, Midas), or ambiguous (Minos, Agamemnon).
The only really "evil" kings are Cronus and Tantalus. The latter is more interesting because, according to Ovid, he murders his own son and, out of hubris, serves him as a meal to the gods in order to test their omniscience.
Greek authors find other reasons for his punishment, but he always ends up in Tartarus.
(and no, Zeus isn't an evil king 😅. He did some... more than debatable stuff, but he was worshipped as a god of justice and he is also the rightful king. So, yeah)
And Creon, who I mentioned earlier, isn't an evil king.
4. KOW!Amaya as Medea
You already mentioned her, so I'll keep it short.
Though Medea isn't as evil as Amaya, I can see the inspiration in KOW (especially in her earlier life).
Then there's what I told you earlier about the cursed necklace of Harmonia.
Also, obvious similarities: they're both powerful witches who fled their kingdoms.
(and both aren't in good terms with kids...)
And Jason abandoning her for someone else, except his new wife is actually innocent and a victim of Medea's rage. While Harmona admittedly deserved at least some punishment.
Other picks :
+ Circe : another witch who, ultimately, isn't as evil. If we count Ovid, she changed Scylla into a monster because she loved the god Glaucus (who in return loved Scylla).
If we don't, she doesn't fit as much.
+ Queen Ino : tried to kill Athamas' children after marrying him. Queen Ino's the first evil stepmother 😂. Before Lady Tremaine and the evil queen, we had Ino.
(well, the second bitter stepmother, if we count Hera. But she's not an evil queen.)
Ino also had her fair share of suffering, mainly because she took care of her nephew Dionysus. And Hera didn't like it very much.
Bonus point : Typhon and Echidna
The only thing close to an "evil couple" in Greek mythology.
They gave birth to many monsters and Typhon almost defeated the Olympians, thus taking over the Earth. But Zeus defeated him and now he's in Tartarus.
All in all
I struggled a bit, ngl. Greek mythology is fascinating to study, but because 90% of its characters are morally nuanced, it doesn't fit the Disney tone.
(That didn't stop them from making Hercules. I won't complain, since I really liked that inaccurate movie).
But here's my answer.
I reread the backstory of the villains and at the end you mentioned that Amaya is Persephone and Magnifico is Hades (from Disney). I was wondering which of the ancient Greek gods (or other characters from Greek mythology) do you associate Asha and Aster with?
So I kept looking for greek love stories with happy endings... And as ya'll can imagine that's a pointless endeavor, most are tragedies, and the few happy ones we do have don't fit with Asha and Aster.
So instead I decided to just pick greek characters that remind me of Asha and Aster, regardless of who those loved.
I'd say Asha reminds me most to Medea
Now hear me out, I know what you're thinking (If you're familiar with her myth)
"But Anny! Medea killed people!"
Yeah yeah I know, that's not what gives me Asha vibes in her, quick summary for those who don't know:
Medea was a princess, that fell in love with a "hero" named Jason
(She only fell in love with him because Hera made her fall in love with him, so she would help him survive the many trials her father was putting him through, Jason was like Hera's champion, that's why she gave him this lil intervention)
So Jason took Medea home with him, after she literally saved his life, and they had two kids together. But later, Jason decided he wanted to marry another princess, like, one still in power instead of Medea that was a run away princess.
Medea obviously got furious that her husband would marry someone else just for the perks. But she didn't just sit down and took it like many other maidens in greek mythology would, nuh-uh, she started plotting her revenge.
She elaborated a plan to kill both their kids and Jason's new girlfriend, through clever scheming and also potions- because did I mention she makes potions? Yeah turns out Medea was also a big inspiration for me when writing Amaya, she's kinda my favorite girl in greek mythology.
So WHY does she reminds me of Asha? Well simple, Asha stood up against injustice and did everything she possibly could to outwit the villains and had plenty of moments where her quick thinking saved her by a hair (Flashback to the climax of Kingdom of Wishes). Asha plans things out and speaks her mind, she and Medea are both strong, not physically, but in their wit.
I guess I could also compare her to Ariadne since she was also clever by helping Theseus escape the minotaur labyrinth, buuuuut Ariadne isn't as cool as Medea, like come on, at the end of the classical stage play she RIDES HELIOS FLYING CHARIOT LIKE A FREAKIN GODDESS JUST TO TAUNT JASON!!! SAYING SHE TOOK EVERYTHING FROM HIM!!! THEN SHE PROPHESIZES HE'LL DIE ALONE!!!! AND THAT THE GODS ARE ON HER SIDE!!! BECAUSE HES A LYING LIL OATH BREAKER!!!
Anyway, it gives me the vibes of Asha flying on her hand drawn flying carpet to defeat Magnifico and Amaya, and then saying "No one believes your lies anymore" while they're being turned into stone, she's just a badass like that.
As for Aster, maybe it's the Epic: The Musical fan in me talking, but eh, Odyseus.
Simply because I can totally see Aster going through hell and back to find Asha, the same way Odyseus did for Penelope, and also because I can see him being dumb enough to give his full name and address to a cyclops he just blinded. But as more and more shenanigans happen (And by that I mean most of his army freaking dying) he becomes more willing to be more ruthless for the sake of his men that are left and so they can go back home, similar to how Aster matured and even got a lil sadistic in the end there when he decided to turn the villains into stone.
Alternatively, I could also let the Hadestown fan in me win and say he reminds me of Orpheus, but that makes me too sad, considering what happens to Orpheus and Eurydice in the end. Let's say if you cut Orpheus turning to look back, yeah that relationship is very Aster and Asha vibes.
@superkooku you like greek mythology right? Do you have other ideas?
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