#Nazi salute

[cynicalclassicist]

God, Musk really is pathetic. These people really do seem to think that they're being so clever and funny, but it's just being online trolls. Which is silly enough, but these people are in government!

"I'll wait for him to comment on it before I say anything"

He won't shut up about it actually. He thinks it's really funny.

[rejectingrepublicans]

He shouted fight, fight, fight and did the Heil Hitler salute to a cheering audience.

[blondebrainpowered]

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck... it's a duck.

[republicansaredomesticterrorists]

“Did right-wing podcaster and Donald Trump’s former White House strategist Steve Bannon flash a quickie Nazi salute during his speech Thursday at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC)?

Countless observers sure thought so.

It wasn’t the defiant in-your-face salute tech billionaire Elon Musk hammered home in a speech honoring Trump the day of the president’s inauguration.

Bannon’s gesture was a fast flash of a stiff arm off to the side. The motion had no other obvious message than what seemed apparent.

He whipped out the salute after he emphatically urged the CPAC audience in Natioanal Harber, Maryland to “fight, fight, fight.” When it drew applause, Bannon made a quick nod and responded: “Amen.”

Bannon called for a third term for Trump, and said leaders like him come along twice in history.

Joshua Reed Eakle, president of the Project Liberal organization, declared in a response to a clip on X: “Nazism has officially taken over the GOP.”

“This is Trump’s America,” noted a post on X by grassroots political group Really American.

White nationalist Nick Fuentes characterized both Musk’s and Bannon’s gestures as a “Roman salute.” Nevertheless, he called it “sick” on his podcast Thursday, adding: "It's getting a little uncomfortable even for a guy like me!”

[tired-pidgeon]

Oh God guess what else happened at the CPAC

Steve Bannon did a Nazi salute too

Yuckkkk

Becoming a party of Nazis

Look who woke up and decided to piss on the U.S. Constitution

For those who don’t know, the U.S. constitution only allows for presidents to be in office for a maximum of two terms

This is Trump’s second (and ought to be final) term

Wanting to get him back in office for a third time is a gross violation of basic U.S. law, and a remarkable abandonment of that law from a party that has long demanded that laws be followed

[charlesoberonn]

This

Has equal and opposite vibes to this

[kropotkindersurprise]

In case anyone missed how unambiguous Musk's nazi salute was.

[thenuclearmallard]

With the censorship on the rise and limited information being accessible across platforms. This gif will tell you everything you need to know about what's going on in the US.

[queensafira]

Source

[odinsblog]

This is where we are right now

It was definitely a Nazi salute, from an apartheid loving white nationalist.

[liberalsarecool]

Greatest Generation would think current MAGA neo-Nazis and Russophiles are an abomination.

Cruel cowards addicted to white malice.

[dreaminginthedeepsouth]

What you see here with your own eyes is a hate crime in Switzerland and Sweden. In Germany and Austria you can go to prison for 6 months for doing this. In Slovakia and the Czech Republic you can go to prison for 5 years. Musk says comparing the Nazi salute to Hitler is just a tired old smear campaign. Meanwhile every Nazi in the world is having a public orgasm. This isn't some drunken bigot looking for attention in front of a synagogue in Texas. It is the richest man in the world doing it from the President's podium inside the Capitol Building of the United States, where only moments later every single person who smashed it's windows and doors looking to kill members of Congress, injured and killed police officers, trashed everything, shit on the floor and threatened to hang Mike Pence was given a pardon as the first official act.

(Wayne Sumstine)

[zaprowsdower27]

Guys... the ADL said, and I quote (quoting manually because fuck nazi twitter I'm not embedding it and I can't be arsed to screencap, google for confirmation if you want),

"This is a delicate moment. It’s a new day and yet so many are on edge. Our politics are inflamed, and social media only adds to the anxiety. It seems that

@elonmusk

made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge. In this moment, all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath. This is a new beginning. Let’s hope for healing and work toward unity in the months and years ahead."

Bull. Fucking. Shit. That was a nazi salute, done to the crowd and then a second time to the flag. By a guy who's said a lot of antisemitic shit and sympathized with/endorsed nazis up to and including AfD in Germany.

The Usual Suspects are eating this up and talking about how this proves people talking about "antisemitism" are just trying to defend Israeli war crimes and don't care about Diaspora Jews.

You've seen the stuff I reblog; we're in a "broken clock sorta right twice a day" situation. While I disgree with them strongly on a lot of things (far more than I did sixteen months ago), I think they're right about one thing here.

We can't trust the ADL anymore. If they refuse to acknowledge Musk's fucking sieg heil, we cannot rely on them to reliably fight antisemitism anymore.

I understand why they may feel the need to make compromises to have continued access to the halls of power and avoid being institutionally attacked... but while those compromises may protect them it leaves those they exist to protect high and dry.

Stay safe everyone.

[miniar]

"Roman salute" is a synonym.

It's one of a few names of the same thing.

Saying "it wasn't a nazi salute, it was a roman salute." Is like saying "It's not served cool, it's served chilled."

A roman salute IS a nazi salute.

SYNONYM.

[chescaleigh]

A message for everyone who said we were overreacting about the 2024 election

[business-as-usual-bats]

"Give Elon Musk the benefit of the doubt-"

Except here's the thing- I did.

Because I heard about it before I saw it. I never particularly liked Musk, but I moreso felt fairly ambivalent toward him. I certainly did not picture him as a Nazi.

When I first heard about the Nazi salute I was surprised. And when that person told me, "Oh, but they're saying it was unintentional, just him being awkward-"

I believed that. I believed it was most likely a mistake, and people were exaggerating because so many are upset and panicked.

And then I saw the video.

Immediately it was so much worse than I had imagined. I was shocked. Everything about the video to his body language to his facial expression. How he did it twice. It was so obviously intentional and undeniable. And even then I compared it to multiple other videos of Nazis doing the salute, including modern-day Nazis. It's identical.

He didn't even deny it immediately afterward???

Not even a simple, "Ha, obviously that's not what I meant-" He avoided the question and laughed it off altogether, to imply MAYBE it wasn't on purpose. And yet you can't help but notice he still didn't deny it.

And the arguments defending him are INSANE. They capture pictures of other politicians mid-wave, mid-gesture and say, "See??? See??? They've all done it!"

No. They haven't. Not like that. Not a salute like that. Not even close to being so intentional and obvious.

Or they go, "It was him throwing his heart out to the crowd-"

No. There's multiple videos of him doing that during other speeches of his, and it's nowhere near this Nazi salute. Palms turned upward, or using both arms, etc, etc. It's not as if he's not used to giving speeches, as if he has not been coached and had training on what to do or not to do when public speaking.

"Noooo it's the Roman Salute!"

The Nazi Salute is based off the Roman Salute specifically (the arm is just dipped slightly lower-) AND EITHER WAY THEY'RE BOTH CONSIDERED HATE SYMBOLS??

The cognitive dissonance of people trying and trying and trying to excuse him. And to be clear- I would love if there was a good excuse! I don't want him to have thrown up a Nazi salute on live national television!

But he did. I cannot deny my own eyes. No matter what I am told, I know what I see as clear as day.

I'm not even saying he's a Nazi, I'm not claiming to know what his beliefs are or why he did a Nazi salute on Live television. Hell, maybe he did it as a dare, or a challenge to himself to see what he can get away with, but it doesn't really matter why.

What I know:

1. For whatever reason, Elon Musk intentionally did the Nazi Salute on Live television.

2. He did not immediately deny doing so or apologize.

3. Because of this, today's Nazis are praising him for it. They are saying "We're back!" And "This is our time!" And various celebratory phrases.

4. Even if you argue this was unintentional (even though I can tell by his body language it was) the damage has been done. Nazis are rallying behind him, encouraged, excited. This is going to have consequences.

Nazis have already been parading around my city. Now they're going to be bolder. The damage has been done.

TLDR: I was fully prepared to believe Elon doing the Nazi salute was an awkward mistake but one look at the video and I cannot fool myself into believing otherwise. And now we have to pay the price for his stupid actions.