#NEIL GAIMEN
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newobsessionincoming · 1 year ago
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Aziraphale needs time to contextualise. This is the angel that said 6,000 years is too fast. Pulling them far apart and forcing Aziraphale to deal with his relationship with heaven head on will give him the the opportunity to ACTIVELY CHOOSE Crowley. Crowley made his choice long ago, Aziraphale has always been the one trying to catch up. Season 3 will be Aziraphale finally choosing his side. AKA, being at Crowleys’s side 💙
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writingdinosaur · 1 year ago
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Aziraphale was wrong this. He’ll come crawling back that. I want him to do the apology dance blah blah blah.
You know what I want? I want him to succeed.
I want him to give Heaven hell.
I want him to be a problem of the Metatron’s own making.
I keep seeing a take floating around that the Metatron was obviously lying when calling Aziraphale a natural leader and a good choice for Supreme Archangel and just trying to butter Aziraphale up so he’ll be more open to the idea of rejoining Heaven, but I think there is an important distinction to be made in this regard.
Aziraphale IS those things. He IS a natural leader. He was the first being to ever wield a weapon on earth. He is a high ranking member of Heaven’s army and was in charge of a platoon in the first war EVER. HE WAS FULLY EXPECTED TO DO SO AGAIN IN ARMAGEDDON. We can see this leadership both in Season 1 when he insists to Crowley that they don’t run away and in Season 2 when facing the demons. And if Heaven actually was everything it was meant to be, everything it still proclaims that it is, Aziraphale WOULD be the obvious choice for Supreme Archangel, because when faced between making the right choice or making the obedient one, or even between making the right choice or the comfortable choice, he has always picked the right one.
Give up the sword and lie to God or let the humans suffer? Welp, there goes the sword.
Lie on my word as an Angel or allow three human children to be killed? Guess who’s lying again!
Go back to my abusers in order to make things better for everyone or run away with the love of my life who just confessed his feelings for me? Up I go.
Here’s the kicker. The Metatron ALSO thinks he was lying to Aziraphale. In the Metatron’s eyes, Aziraphale is none of those things. The Metatron and the Archangels are nothing but condescending pricks to the Angel they see as a bumbling, incompetent, slightly insane fool who chose Earth over Heaven.
I don’t want Aziraphale to come crawling back. I don’t want him to realize it’s a lost cause. I don’t want him to give up.
What I want is to see the Metatron’s face as he watches Aziraphale succeed.
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ratsoupee · 1 year ago
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I think being an artist/writer in the Good Omens fandom on tumblr is wild. Like you can draw anything. ANYTHING. And I think you all have the guts because Neil Gaimen is sitting right there, and he's bound to see that sexy-bordering-on-suggestive Crowley x Aziraphale fanart and there's like a 50/50 chance he reblogs it.
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corinthian-og-begay-docrime · 8 months ago
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Yall please go watch the dead boy detectives.
Its a good queer show.
Its about two dead boys who help other ghosts move on.
And their new human friends
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cheesebearger · 2 months ago
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i know there are people upset about dead boy detectives being canceled, but it's almost certainly due to the spate of sexual assault allegations surrounding neil gaimen. it has become very clear that neil gaimen is a practiced, lifelong predator. he has harmed many. he has violated and abused.
gaimen's properties being canceled are the natural consequence of the mask being pulled off. people rightly do not want to continue allowing gaimen avenues to profit when he's harmed so many. even if he's not directly involved in directing the show, he is an executive producer. and he does not deserve profit or platform.
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playdohangel · 1 year ago
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When he walks like this already... WHAT is Crowley's walk going to be like after Aziraphale discovers sex?!? We all saw how Aziraphale destroyed that Ox rib when he discovered food... just throwing that classy thought out there.
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flintoaster · 6 months ago
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It's "believe victims" until it's Melanie Martinez and Neil gaiman. Sorry but no. I believe the victims. And I still love Melanie's music and Neil's books and shows, but I'm not defending them. Good omens is one of the last things I have left and it breaks me to hear about this, 💔
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tallerthantale · 4 months ago
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I finally got around to doing a close reading of transcripts of the Tortoise episodes, and I am very glad that I did.
My view remains that I find all the allegations both very credible and very damning. The updates to my views are that I feel more positively (though not entirely positively) about Tortoise, and that there is a probable very bad actor in all of this that isn't getting nearly enough attention. (Not Amanda Palmer. Or well, yes Amanda Palmer, but she isn't who I'm talking about.)
Tortoise first.
I'd been seeing a lot of comments claiming that Tortoise was anti BDSM. I don't know what the people in the podcast have as their personal views, but they made a point multiple times to clarify that BDSM does not operate like what Neil Gaimen was alleged to have done, and the condemnation they had for the alleged actions was not a condemnation of consensual BDSM. As someone who has been very involved in BDSM community for decades, I am fully in agreement with everything the hosts have said. The line people got most hung up on was a guest expert snarking about degradation ever being consensual. It is ambiguous in context what definition of "degradation" he is using, but it seemed to me he was referring to processes of establishing coercive control, and not referring to degrading roleplay in a mutually invested, healthily negotiated kink scenario. My remaining critique on the host / guests perspective is that the language around abuse and coercive control used by the hosts and guests often presumes all abusers are male and all victims are female. It doesn't diminish the value of the rest of what they are doing, but I think it is worth being critical of as a side note.
The other big point of concern with Tortoise, which I got major bad vibes off of from day one, was the manner in which they talk about their "understanding of Neil Gaimen's position." That sets off my internal red flags because it immediately prompts the follow up questions, "How did you acquire that understanding?" "Who told you that?" "Why aren't you quoting and / or citing them?" I had been speculating that they were from his side of the communications provided by the people coming forward, or comments from lawyers that weren't being properly attributed. Council of Geeks had a great "Cite Your Sources!" whiteboard moment I would generally agree with.
However.
It turns out there is actually a good reason for the citation fuckery. I think a lot of people missed it, so I'm going to try to explain it. When the hosts are referencing communications provided by those coming forward, they say so. When they are referencing comments by lawyers, they say so. The issue is, the bulk of the time, their understanding is coming from piles of direct emails with Gaimen that are OFF THE RECORD. Journalists have to take that seriously to get to keep doing journalism. They are professionally obligated to NOT cite or quote him when he is off the record. Normally in such a situation journalists wouldn't do this squiggly 'our understanding of their views' thing, they would leave it out entirely to be on the safe side of their professional obligations. Sprinkled through the podcasts are comments about the moral importance of hearing from both sides, the great public interest need to hear from both sides. This is a very snarky justification for the game they are playing of vague-posting the gist of his off the record statements without ever putting the exact statement on the record.
A lot of their snark surrounding that, and some other bits, leave the very distinct impression that Gaimen and his lawyers have threatened legal action against Tortoise several times already. Honestly I hope that they do file legal action, as that would open Gaimen up to discovery. Discovery is a process by which Tortoise would be able to demand access to nearly all documents and / or electronic communications Gaimen has relating to the matter, and in doing so make them public. Discovery is far broader sweeping that what is admissible in court, because it has to be 'discovered' before the court can rule it admissible or not. But inadmissible thigs are still usually public record. A jury wouldn't see them, but we still can. Because of that, it is extremely unlikely that Gaimen will file a legal claim, but again, I truly hope that he does. Tortoise probably does too.
But there is another person deserving of investigation and discovery in all this.
The main focus of my current attention is from a bit in the first episode that jumped out at me. Like, it made my eyes bug out, jaw on the metaphorical floor, and I was shocked that I haven't seen it mentioned. But then I figured, people might just not have the context to know how big of a deal this is. So I'm going to talk about it.
According to Scarlett's account, after she came forward to Amanda, Neil asked her to take a call with a therapist that both he and Amanda see. It seemed like his financial assistance offer to her may have hinged on the call being part of the deal. At first read, it looks like Gaimen strongarming Scarlett to tell his therapist he didn't assault anyone. She does the call, and there is a message from the guy that seems designed to plant the suggestion in Scarlett that her friends are manipulating her into perceiving a consensual relationship as a non consensual one.
To me, that is a five alarm fire. Everything happening in there should not be happening, ever. A person who provides individual therapy should not provide it to both partners in a relationship. A person who provides relationship therapy should not be providing individual therapy to people in the relationship. (They should do one-on-one sessions with each in the context of the relationship therapy but that is different.) A therapist should not be framing things the way they are described in that message, or interacting that way towards someone who is not a client, particularly if they have a conflict with someone who is. Therapists are very aware of the potential for clients to coerce others into saying things that fit the client's narrative, and should not be encouraging them to try. And all that is before we even get to the part where he seems to have been tasked specifically to gasslight Scarlett into mistrusting herself and blaming her friends. By Scarlett's paper trailed account, this person should be facing very serious repercussions and investigation. According to Tortoise, he has not responded to any of their attempts to get in touch with him, and he has a phone that is set up to not accept voicemail.
The name of this alleged professional is stated in the podcast, so I looked him up. He is most widely known as an author. His first professional descriptor for himself is as an executive leadership mentor. That more or less translates to person who gives expensive pep talks to rich people. He is also a minister, and a 'consultant.' He does call himself a therapist, but he has no degrees, background, or training in psychology. His degree is from divinity school. He does not list any professional qualifications or certifications in mental health, he does not list any memberships in any mental health organizations. He did co-found an organization that appears to have put on motivational seminars for a variety of organizations. His 'client list' was last updated in 2012. His website has features that are only accessible by those who are 'fully committed.' He is based out of Arizona, USA.
Searching for his name + therapist will get you to a podcast episode with Amanda Palmer, where she had him on as a guest, described him as a therapist, her therapist, and her and Neil's relationship therapist, and promoted his books. It was recorded in 2019, and it is utterly vapid and out of touch from the both of them. Searching his name + therapist will not get you any information on his work as a therapist, because he is not a therapist.
He can't get stripped of his status as a mental health practitioner, because he isn't one. Tortoise states that he has protected confidentiality to Neil and Amanda. If he does have protected confidentiality, he has it solely through his status as a minister, not as a mental health professional because again, he isn't one. As a minister, he may have greater client privilege than an actual mental health professional, who would be required to break privilege if they have reason to believe their client is a danger to themselves or others. Religious client privilege is very strongly protected in most of the US even if the client is explicitly planning to commit specific acts of violence. This might be the main selling point to people who choose to work with ministers who pretend to be therapists rather than actual therapists.
Scarlett doesn't have confidentiality much less privilege by any avenue, his communication with her did not form a professional relationship despite the ways his message seemed to blur those lines, which would have left him free to pass on whatever she said to Neil and Amanda. That would also open the door for him to corroborate what Scarlett told him to the media, but my impression is that if he can be contacted, he will cite a duty to his real client, Neil Gaimen, to avoid saying anything. This is one of many reasons why real therapists do not take clients who have potential conflicts of interest with their other clients. I can't tell from the content of either podcast to what extent he may have materially represented himself to be an actual mental health professional to his clients, but if he has done so he absolutely should be liable if not culpable for that.
I would like to see this man investigated to hell and back, but I don't know if anyone in the media is going to bother. For anyone who needs to hear it, do not go to therapy with someone who isn't a licensed mental health professional. Do not have the same individual therapist as your romantic partner(s). If you are setting up couples therapy, it needs to be with someone who has never met either of you before, and you make first contact with them as a unit.
Obligatory this is all personal opinion disclaimer. The internal states of public figures cannot be determined or scientifically evaluated by their public statements / appearances / works / ect... I am not the behaviour panel, nor do I endorse that kind of thing. But under certain circumstances I am willing to put out some personal opinions about what certain actions, if they happened, would seem to suggest.
I've been saying for a while now, the allegations paint a very strong and compelling picture of Gaimen knowing what he was doing and engaging in deliberate strategy even if he can make pocket experiences for himself where he gets to believe that the relationships were real. I think the evidence pointing towards Gaimen having a long running pseudo 'therapist' he is comfortable sending his accusers to talk to, who then encourages the accuser to think their friends are controlling them, speaks to how deeply this approach to life can saturate a person's existence. When I say 14 represents a lifestyle choice, these are the kinds of things I'm talking about. Someone who fucked up and made a few grievous errors, and did soul searching, and is trying to do better doesn't send their victims to their on call professional gassligter with religious privilege who they outsource to. This looks like 'life revolves around finding ways to control and silence people' level shit.
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amythenortherner · 1 year ago
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I noticed Doctor Who is trending lmao anyway just wanted to share that this whole season 2 finale situation is triggering my traumatic memories of Rose Tyler and doomsday and what do you know David Tennant is right at the Goddamn middle of it once again
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newobsessionincoming · 1 year ago
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I love how Good Omens confession/divorce is causing all the other traumatised gay ships that confessed/divorced to trend too. We are one powerful hive brain.
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bird-slayer-brainrot · 11 months ago
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Who? - Ineffable Husband watch Doctor Who - crack, fluff
"Mr Bond, you're truly a hero." the blond, bespectacled women said to him. It had been quite a victory, that much was true. The girl clutched Bond's arm, blushing up at him. "Mr Bond, it was ever so brave of scramoush scaramoush will you do the fandango.......
"Crowley, is that you?"
Crowley groaned. Blinking into awareness, Crowley pressed the phone to his ear. He really should change his ringtone. Leave your phone in the Bentley once and it thinks it has the right. "Yes, yes, hello Aziraphale."
"Oh dear," the angel paused for a moment, and Crowley pulled himself out of his covers and sat up. "Were you asleep? I'm so sorry for interrupting you. I'll let you get back to it."
"No, no." Crowley cleared his throat. The angel, to his credit, sounded genuinely distressed by the prospect of accidentally waking Crowley from his sleep. Crowley grimaced. "I was just getting up. What's the matter?"
Aziraphale was silent for a moment. The static buzzing of a tea kettle, knowing him, transferring through his end was all that could be heard.
"I'm afraid it's rather silly." That got Crowley's attention. He performed a quick miracle and he was dressed. Black sweater, black sweatpants (even demon's had lazy days, and he planned on gardening) and combat boots (to make up for the sweatpants). Aziraphale made a noise over the phone. "It's really not important. There was just something I wanted to show you, if... if you're not busy."
Crowley, of course, had nothing on. But Aziraphale wanted to see him so he was obviously free. Even if he had something on, he'd try and get... okay, no, that line of inquiry is well worn. He just wanted to see Aziraphale. He was bored yada yada.
"I'll be there." Crowley said into the microphone.
"Oh, good." Aziraphale's sigh transmitted through, and Crowley really had no clue then what it was Aziraphale wanted to see him for, and the angel wasn't telling him. "I'll see you soon. Safe driving."
"Never," Crowley responded, as usual. Aziraphale hung up the phone and Crowley sprung up and grabbed his keys.
Aziraphale was pacing.
Perhaps he shouldn't have called Crowley. It was ridiculous, this whole thing. But he couldn't, in good conscious, not tell the demon. It would be simply unfair not to. And Aziraphale was an angel, so he should be the one to tell him.
The bell at the door chimed. Crowley stepped inside, miracling his clothing dry. Aziraphale breathed a sigh of relief.
"Crowley," he approached his friend, smiling as the demon propped himself a bookshelf. "You look cozy. How was the drive?"
The demon tilted his head and put a hand on his hip. "Uhh, fine." he finally spoke. That was good. That was very good. "So do you mind telling me what's going on?"
"Ah, yes." Aziraphale shifted, adjusting his cardigan, "Well, I stumbled across something that might be rather interesting to you. On..." Aziraphale paused, but Crowley, who knew Aziraphale's mannerisms as well as his own, waited. "the television."
Crowley smiled.
"Aziraphale..."
"Crowley."
And the demon laughed as Aziraphale led him upstairs.
It was unexpected.
They were in the small sitting room in the flat at the top of Aziraphale's bookshop. Crowley had only been up here on occasion. The room was like the rest of the space. There was a small, brown couch with a blanket and several homemade cushions; an antique coffee table covered with books, a newspaper, two tea cups and a half finished plate of biscuits; and a slim and small TV on the bureau. The curtains were drawn.
"This is cozy." Crowley said as Aziraphale sat on the couch and reached for the remote. Crowley took that as invitation to join him. And waited.
The theme of Doctor Who began to play, and at this, Crowley looked over at the angel. Aziraphale was watching the screen, adjusting his cardigan again. Several names flashed across the screen, then, the title, The Christmas Invasion.
The episode started to play. Ten minutes in, Aziraphale paused it, and slowly turned his head to face Crowley. Crowley was already looking at Aziraphale.
"That." was all Crowley said.
"I know." Aziraphale flinched. "I was just as surprised as you."
"David Tennant?"
Aziraphale shifted. "I was meaning to catch up on the series, before it got too far away from me." he tried to explain. "And, well, there's this." he gestured towards the screen, where a still image of David Tennant's sleeping face. The resemblance to the demon at his right was uncanny.
"And you thought this was my doing?"
"Well," Aziraphale shrugged. "I didn't know what to think, but you seem just as surprised by this information."
Crowley leaned back into the couch, pondering this for a moment. Then he shrugged, and got up.
"Wait, where are you going? You can't hurt him!"
Crowley spun around on his feet. The expression on his face was incredulous.
"Aziraphale." he said in a measured tone. "That is a human man. You want to watch Doctor Who, and so do I. I'm grabbing wine." then he turned away again, and walked out of the room.
Several hours later...
Aziraphale turned the TV off. They stared at the black screen.
"That was..."
A noise broke through the silence. Aziraphale turned his head, and Crowley turned his away.
"Crowley." he said gently. "Are you... crying?"
Crowley sneered at this and turned back to face Aziraphale. His face was dry, miraculously, and Aziraphale felt a wave of tenderness wash through him.
"Well," Aziraphale's hand itched to reach out and comfort the demon. On the screen, the Doctor walked away from the wall dividing him and Rose. Well, the wall that was actually a gap in the void. The theme swelled, and Aziraphale's heart clenched. He paused the episode.
"Next one?" Crowley said gently, and Aziraphale obliged.
Later, Crowley would deny ever crying at that episode. It was not brought up again.
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gothicghoul · 1 year ago
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nightmare aziracrow AU
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tripleaaaaa · 1 year ago
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In season 1 of Good Omens there’s a scene of Pepper complaining about the fact she got a bike with a basket instead of gears and shit. But then when the Them are riding to the airbase in episode 5 (I think), it’s Adam who has the bike with a basket.
In short: Adam swapped bikes with Pepper to make her happy. And probably because the basket was more functional for him, as we see Dog riding around in it. So Adam also says fuck gender norms in favour of functionality.
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collinsportmaine · 8 months ago
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ionlydrinkhotwater · 2 years ago
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Into the Good Omens-verse
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I had to do it. I had to.
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snazzy-serpent · 6 months ago
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I think we can all agree the Neil Gaimen situation is fucked up. I haven't really engaged with any of his media or the Good Omens fandom in quite a while after reading through some of American Gods and feeling quite icky about him, so its only rly today that I've first heard about the big things on what's going on.
I've only ever known very surface level info about him in the past but the more I read into it the worse and more concerning it gets.
I don't care for whatever conspiracies anyone makes about the David Tennant UK election thing. Whether they or the journalists are actually TERFs or not, it doesn't matter. SA is a hideous crime and no one deserves that shit. False allegations or not his whole persona just feels off and I'm not too sure I can in good conscious continue being in his fandom and knowingly boosting his influence and financial gain. I did the same for Rowling and while his views aren't as prevalent in the Good Omens story as in Harry Potter you also have to consider that the story was co-written with Terry Pratchett and the 2nd season has multiple script writers too.
His solo stories are a mix bag for what you get and up to your interpretation for each one. It's something that most of the time, unless you have been directly affected, you only really pick up on it more until after the fact, once you have the surrounding context next to it to consider all together. Don't shame folks for not knowing sooner, especially as many were kids and teens when first discovering this fandom. Instead direct your attention to those who will have the personal experiences to know more on the matter.
I love you good omens fans and fandom y'all have been (for the most part) wonderful but please I beg, support the victims in this and remember that while you can like a creator don't let it define you and definitely don't idolise them.
There's no such thing as "one of the good ones".
They can do some good things sure, but that's what they're choosing to show you.
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